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==== Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''no consensus'''. Another nomination may be needed, in which case please make a group nomination covering as much of [[:Category:People of the French Revolutionary Wars]] as needs renaming. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 08:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars]] to [[:Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars]]
: The "Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars" has to be renamed, since the [[French Revolutionary Wars]] ended in 25 March 1802, while the [[Austrian Empire]] was created only in 1804. The proposed accurate description should be: "Category:Habsburg Monarchy military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars".([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 10:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC))
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::::(2) Category:Habsburg Imperial Army military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars
::::(3) Category:Imperial Army
::::(4) Category:Habsburg Imperial military leaders 1790-1815 ([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 18:01, 13 September 2019 (UTC))
:::::To Marco's point, we should also consider what to do with [[:Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars by nationality]]. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 08:27, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
::::::We should rename it as well (replace "nationality" with something else, since Habsburg Monarchy was not a country, not a nation, etc., what would be the best English word, ''affiliation''?)([[User:KIENGIR|KIENGIR]] ([[User talk:KIENGIR|talk]]) 19:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC))
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* '''Alternative ''', per earlier discussion:
# '''Split''' [[:Category:Austrian Empire military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars]] to [[:Category:Military leaders of the Imperial Army]] and [[:Category:Military leaders of the Austrian Empire]].
# Delete [[:Category:Military leaders of the French Revolutionary Wars by nationality]] and subcats (except French) in a separate discussion. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:04, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - For GB/UK, 1792-1815 was a period of continuous war, with a short break in the middle. For some other countries, war was more intermittent, as French victories knocked them out of the war or made them French allies. Nevertheless the period c.1790-1815 constitutes a distinct historical period in which there was a lot of military activity. However there is no satisfactory global name for these wars, which is why I was suggesting the use of dates, when the discussion was more active a couple of months ago. This is complicated by the change in title of the Austrian ruler from Holy Roman Emperor to Emperor of Austria, which was much more a change of name than anything else. WP tends to treat successive names of countries as if they were distinct entities, when in fact there is much continuity. I therefore do not think that a split is the right answer. I would prefer us to go back to the suggested [[:Category:Habsburg Imperial military leaders 1790-1815]], which avoids naming the wars or splitting imperial titles. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Spaceflight portal ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Spaceflight portal}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:SMALLCAT]] - There is only one portal that fits with this category and [[Portal:Spaceflight]] is already in [[:Category:Transport portals]] so we don't need this subcategory with only one portal which fits with this. [[User:Pkbwcgs|Pkbwcgs]] ([[User talk:Pkbwcgs|talk]]) 10:57, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''', useful for keeping track of pages created to be featured within a portal. I acknowledge that [[Special:Prefixindex]] can also find such pages, but category is more convenient. In this case it turns out to be incomplete, in comparison with [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Spaceflight&namespace=100], but that could be remedied by coding the category in relevant templates, and creating a sub-cat for "On this day" and DYK pages. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 10:10, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Norwegian awards ====
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==== Monegasque awards ====
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==== Greek awards ====
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==== Polish awards ====
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==== Romanian awards ====
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==== Category:Cloud infrastructure attacks & failures ====
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==== Category:Allotropes ====
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==== Category:Fauna of Saudi Arabia ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 08:57, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Fauna of Saudi Arabia}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' This category was [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_December_4#Category:Fauna_of_Bahrain|deleted in 2018]], but has been re-created without afaics any discussion. As usual with such categories (created by an editor interested in the country rather than in biota) it's very incomplete (there are hundreds of species found in that country - e.g. see [[List of birds of Saudi Arabia]]). It's better to categorize animals by regions - e.g. in [[:Category:Fauna of the Arabian Peninsula]] and in categories such as [[:Category:Endemic fauna of Saudi Arabia]] (where applicable). No upmerge is necessary because both pages in this category are already well categorized. Suggest salt. <b>[[User:DexDor|DexDor]]</b><sup> [[User talk:DexDor|(talk)]]</sup> 11:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' -- Categorising fauna and flora by every country in which they occur is liable to create terrible category clutter. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 14:51, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per [[WP:G4]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 17:03, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Linguistics, Language, and the Public Award recipients ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. I will list this on the manual page to give time for an editorial decision to make a list. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 08:58, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Linguistics, Language, and the Public Award recipients}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''delete''' per [[WP:OCAWARD]]. Note that we do not even have an article about this award. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 09:32, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Listify then delete''' as usual in OC AWARD cases. In this case the material need to listify is in the link being provided in lieu of a main article. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:24, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Note''':
:* Yeah there should at least be a stand alone article about the award in order to add a list, but I am not sure whether the award is notable at all. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 13:55, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. Anyone's welcome to create a list (subject to it being referenced, passing GNG etc), but deleting the category shouldn't be conditional on there being a list. <b>[[User:DexDor|DexDor]]</b><sup> [[User talk:DexDor|(talk)]]</sup> 14:15, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Note''': If the award is not notable to deserve discussion then the mention of the award should also be deleted from [[Linguistic Society of America]]. [[User:Hyacinth|Hyacinth]] ([[User talk:Hyacinth|talk]]) 01:02, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Charlotte City Council members ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:03, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Charlotte City Council members]] to [[:Category:Charlotte, North Carolina City Council members]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Rename to clarify that this article is only for those city council members from this city and not the many other the municipalities called Charlotte. [[User:Namiba|TM]] 21:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Support''' -- Sometimes we need a disambiguator for a category, where the main article does not, because it can have an "otheruses" capnote, something that does not work for categories. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:27, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as unambiguous. No other city named Charlotte is large enough to justify an article on its city council, let alone creating a category for its city council members. - [[User:EurekaLott|Eureka Lott]] 19:22, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Speakers of the Iraqi Kurdistan Parliament ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename all''', appending (Iraq). – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 16:20, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
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* [[:Category:Speakers of the Iraqi Kurdistan Parliament]] to [[:Category:Speakers of the Kurdistan Region Parliament (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Education in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Education in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Media in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Media in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Universities in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Universities in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Airports in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Airports in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Television stations in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Television stations in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Governorates of Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Governorates of Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Military history of Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Military history of Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Politics of Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Politics of Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Politics of Kurdistan Region]] to [[:Category:Politics of Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Wars involving Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Wars involving Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Battles involving Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Wars involving Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
* [[:Category:Military operations involving Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Wars involving Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]]
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:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Speakers of the Iraqi Kurdistan Parliament]] to [[:Category:Speakers of the Kurdistan Region Parliament]]
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Education in Iraqi Kurdistan]] to [[:Category:Education in Kurdistan Region]]
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*'''Oppose as nom''' - Kurdistan refers to the land inhabited by Kurds, who are split between Turkey (where they are treated as insurgents); Syria where an insurgent movement is currently dominant in part of the country; Iraq (subject of present discussion); and Iran. The Iraqi area is officially Kurdistan Region, but who knows what polity will emerge from the Syrian conflict for Syrian Kurdistan. I according consider that Iraq or Iraqi should remain part of the name. I would not oppose a change to [[:Category:Education in Kurdistan Region (Iraq)]] [[:Category:Education in Iraqi Kurdistan Region]], etc. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 14:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
:* Adding a disambiguator "(Iraq)" makes sense indeed. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 17:01, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' {{ping|Oculi|Semsûrî}} what are your opinion about Peterkingiron's proposal above to add "(Iraq)" as a disambiguator? ‑‑[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 19:42, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Trialpears}}, I can support the "(Iraq)" proposal. --[[User:Semsûrî|Semsurî]] ([[User talk:Semsûrî|talk]]) 19:48, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:National parks in Conwy County Borough ====
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:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:National parks in Conwy County Borough]] to [[:Category:Geography of Conwy County Borough]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:National parks in Gwynedd]] to [[:Category:Geography of Gwynedd]]
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*'''Just delete''' -- Snowdonia is bigger than any of these. It is in [[:Category:National parks in Wales]] which does not need to be split by council areas. I would not oppose adding Snowdonia to the geography categories, but do not think it is really necessary. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
:* (as nom) I am fine with that too. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 16:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Comedy game shows ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''keep'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:24, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Comedy game shows}}<br />
::'''Nominator's rationale:''' Duplicative of [[:Category:1980s American game shows]]. Not enough WP:N to break out from [[:Category:1980s American game shows]], nor no WP:V source defining subgroup from main. [[User:AldezD|AldezD]] ([[User talk:AldezD|talk]]) 18:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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*Relisting, subcategories weren't tagged. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:20, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep and populate''' per [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 10:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Venetian archaeological sites in Greece ====
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:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Venetian archaeological sites in Greece]] to [[:Category:Venetian sites in Greece]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' "Archaeological" is redundant and possibly misleading, e.g. a still standing set of city walls is not, strictly speaking, an "archaeological site". [[User:Cplakidas|Constantine]] [[User talk:Cplakidas| ✍ ]] 13:14, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Downmerge''' all are in fact sites that belong in subcategory [[:Category:Venetian fortifications in Greece]], though perhaps [[:Category:Venetian fortified sites in Greece]] would be a better description for that. Palaiokastro means old fort. the other article is a maintain on which there are Venetian fortifications. The result is that the present level is redundant. Implemtation would probably be by downmerging the articles to empty the category and then upmerging the otherwise empty category. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:09, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Upmerge''' to [[:Category:Archaeological sites in Greece]]. Do we ''need'' to have every type of archaeological site from every country when there are only two or three in some categories? I don't see the advantage to this over-categorization for the sake of category consistency with the whole. Alternatively...
:'''Dual upmerge''' to [[:Category:Archaeological sites in Greece]] and [[:Category:Venetian archaeological sites]]. --[[User:Dmehus|'''Doug Mehus''']]''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;"> [[User talk:Dmehus|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/Dmehus|C]]</span>'' 15:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
:* The point of the nomination was that the sites aren't archaeological sites. This alternative does not solve that problem. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 16:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' renaming. Faulty argument from the nominator. The archaeological in [[archaeological site]] isn't redundant: a ''site'' is any place, an ''archaeological site'' is a place with physical evidence of past human activity. By the same token, standing remains like walls are archaeological sites. Renaming would be confusing and break consistency with the rest of the [[:Category:Archaeological sites]] tree. – [[User:Joe Roe|Joe]] <small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 16:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
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==== Category:Powermasters ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Powermasters}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Category only consists of four pages, one of which is a redirect and one will be deleted within days. The rest might also get deleted within months. There are simply too few pages to deserve a separate category. [[User:JIP|<span style="color: #CC0000;">J</span><span style="color: #00CC00;">I</span><span style="color: #0000CC;">P</span>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 12:32, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Just delete''', the articles still are in [[:Category:Transformers automobiles]] so merging is not necessary. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 17:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Plaza Sésamo ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:01, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Plaza Sésamo}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:OCEPON|Eponymous]] category for a television show without the volume of content necessary to warrant one: apart from the eponym itself, the only other content here is a single character from it. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 03:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
* '''Support''' per nom. The Dutch sibling category, though fairly populated, can probably also be nominated as a case of [[WP:PERFCAT]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:35, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Spectacles ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Spectacles}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Virtually unmaintainable category for a concept that is too broad in scope to be usefully [[WP:DEFINING]] of its contents. Just seven topics have been filed here: four specific opening ceremonies of sports festivals and three theatrical performance events, and that's literally it. But let's consider what else ''could'' be filed here: every ''other'' opening ''and closing'' ceremony of every other sporting event; every concert tour by any major pop or rock artist who's ambitious enough to do more than just stand there and sing; award ceremonies; art and music and film festivals; public parades; dance balls; every performance art show; and on and so forth. Literally anything that fits the definition of "an event that is memorable for the appearance it creates" would belong here, which makes the category so broad as to be effectively pointless because it can subjectively encompass the vast majority of all entertainment events that exist at all. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 02:54, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' -- Whether an event or performance is spectacular is a matter of opinion. We cannot have POV categories, that is ones that depend on the editor's POV. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:13, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above—subjective. <span style="background:Black;padding:1px 5px">[[User:Buidhe|<b style="color: White">b</b>]][[User talk:Buidhe|<b style="color: White">uidh</b>]][[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|<b style="color: White">e</b>]]</span> 22:30, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*Either '''delete''' or expand to include monocles and pinces-nez. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 02:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC) <small>(yes, yes, I know)</small>
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==== Category:Spectacle ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Spectacle}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[WP:SMALLCAT]] for an eponymous concept, one book about that concept and one film adaptation of that book. This is not enough content to need a dedicated category. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 02:35, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
* '''Support''', also per [[WP:SHAREDNAME]], the book and film deal with a much broader topic than with spectacles as we usually understand the term. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:45, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Apart from the book and film (and I am not sure if spectacle in French truly translates to the same in English), I do not see what is different from the item above. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:15, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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