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==Proposals, March 2019==

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=== NEW PROPOSALS ===

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===Bangsamoro-geo-stub===

{{sfp top|taken to CfR}}'''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 18:58, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Since [[Bangsamoro]] region already replaced the now-defunct [[Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao]] (ARMM) thru recent plebiscite, i propose that a new [[Template:Bangsamoro-geo-stub]] be created to replace the [[Template:ARMM-geo-stub]].

--[[User:RioHondo|RioHondo]] ([[User talk:RioHondo|talk]]) 19:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

*'''Support speedy''' rename, as the ARMM permcats are up for speedy renaming at CfR. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 20:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

*: Thank you. I don't know where to request for the renaming and recategorization of [[:Category:Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao geography stubs]] as well but this should be renamed to [[:Category:Bangsamoro geography stubs]] and under the new region [[:Category:Bangsamoro]].--[[User:RioHondo|RioHondo]] ([[User talk:RioHondo|talk]]) 08:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

:::The rest of the permcats are listed for [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy#Add_requests_for_speedy_renaming_here|speedy renaming at CfR]]; I suggest you use the <pre>{{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}</pre> tag on the category and list it there. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 17:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

::::Ok, will try that. Thanks!--[[User:RioHondo|RioHondo]] ([[User talk:RioHondo|talk]]) 17:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

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=== 2010s single stubs ===

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Because {{tl|2010s-single-stub}} has more than one thousand articles, I propose splitting the category by year as follows:<br>

{{tl|2010-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2011-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2012-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2013-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2014-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2015-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2016-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2017-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2018-single-stub}}<br>

{{tl|2019-single-stub}}<br>

--[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 15:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

*The song and single stubs are pretty much used interchangeably with no standard as when one should be used over the other. Because most of these stub articles are songs released as singles, technically either usage is correct. I recommend upmerging the contents of [[:Category:2010s single stubs]] to [[:Category:2010s song stubs]] (with only about 250 articles), which the combined 1400 articles can then be reduced by moving to appropriate sub-stub categories such as [[:Category:2010s pop song stubs]], [[:Category:2010s country song stubs]] and others which can be created such as [[:Category:2010s electronic song stubs]] and [[:Category:2010s rhythm and blues song stubs]]. This solution allows us to start this type of stub categorization scheme from scratch before making the "by year" stubs a common default to this situation. Thanks. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span>^{[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]} 17:23, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

::My initial effort to go down this road is to change the sub-stubs/categories under [[:Category:Hip hop song stubs]], [[:Category:2000s hip hop single stubs]] and [[:Category:2010s hip hop single stubs‎‎]], to [[:Category:2000s hip hop song stubs]] and [[:Category:2010s hip hop song stubs‎‎]], so 1) naming convention matches the parent and 2) re-focus on a higher level "songs" naming convention for this scheme. The nomination is at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 February 26#Hip hop song stubs]]. I am willing to submit my suggested merge to CfD if people feel it could benefit the project. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span>^{[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]} 17:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

*''' Reply '''- {{yo|Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars}}, [[WP:BOLD|be bold]]! --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 13:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

** {{re|Jax 0677}} You did notice the CfD nomination for hip hop singles stub, right? Of course, you did because you've !voted twice already. And I've reduced the number of stub articles tagged as {{tl|2010s-single-stub}} by 200 and I just started, so I think I've been pretty bold so far. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span>^{[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]} 00:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

::*''' Reply '''- {{yo|Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars}}, sorry for accidentally voting twice. I struck through the second comment. --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 14:00, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

:::*''' Note to closing administrator '''- [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2019/February]] was closed as "create by year, not by genre". --[[User:Jax 0677|Jax 0677]] ([[User talk:Jax 0677|talk]]) 21:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

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=== Mexico-politician-NationalRegeneration-stub ===

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* '''Propose''' creating [[Template:Mexico-politician-NationalRegeneration-stub]] (alternative name: Mexico-politician-Morena-stub) and an accompanying category [[:Category:National Regeneration Movement politician stubs]]

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::{{ping|Pegship}} I expect that to happen somewhat soon. There are articles like [[Aníbal Ostoa Ortega]] where the article isn't updated to reflect the LXIII or LXIV Legislature (he is with Morena now). [[User:Lgcsmasamiya]] once created hundreds of stubs for every Mexican federal legislator, but they were blocked indefinitely in May 2015. Between the LXIII and LXIV Legislatures, if enough stubs were created, that cat would exist _now_ (and I'm trying to make a dent in all those redlinks). Perhaps creating the template now (and making corresponding stub template changes) would help us understand the scale of the cat? [[User:Raymie|Raymie]] ([[User talk:Raymie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raymie|c]]) 18:25, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

:::No matter how I dig, I can't find more than 17 articles that qualify as stubs which are currently in the National Regeneration Movement politicians category. Stub tags are meant to inspire folks to improve articles, not to create more stub articles to fill the category. (Personally I look forward to the day when there are no stub-level articles!) I encourage editors to work on updating articles and their categories so that the National Regeneration Movement politicians category is populated accordingly, and then we can revisit the question of whether a stub type is needed. I hope I'm making sense. '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 23:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Pegship}} I'm actually going to rectify some of that tonight and spend some time updating categories. I get the sense we might be much closer than you think. [[User:Raymie|Raymie]] ([[User talk:Raymie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raymie|c]]) 02:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

:::: Update: I did the math (and a lot of updating categories and articles on Morena politicians that had not been updated to reflect their new affiliation; the Morena politicians cat doubled in size) and I believe the number of stubs in the range is over 40 (PetScan says [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=1&categories=National%20Regeneration%20Movement%20politicians%0D%0AMexican%20politician%20stubs&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit= 37 pages] belong to the Mexican politician stub cat or one of its subcats and the Morena politicians cat) and could still be a bit larger. Enough to merit an upmerged template, though the category right now can wait. [[User:Raymie|Raymie]] ([[User talk:Raymie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raymie|c]]) 07:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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===Ambazonia===

{{sfp top|send to CfD}}

Being ignorant of the policy in regards to creating stub templates, I went ahead and created [[Template:Ambazonia-stub]] and [[:Category:Ambazonia stubs]] without consulting anyone. I created it out of concern that the alternative to it - [[Template:Cameroon-stub]] - may come off as POV if used in articles related to this separatist state. I don't know exactly how many articles it will be used in - [[Ambazonia Governing Council]], [[Interim Government of Ambazonia]], [[Sisiku Julius Ayuk Tabe]] and [[Samuel Ikome Sako]] are a few that I can think of - but I expect to write several short articles relating to the subject in the near future. I hope that this proposal will be supported for the sake of preserving a NPOV. Best, [[User:Mikrobølgeovn|Mikrobølgeovn]] ([[User talk:Mikrobølgeovn|talk]]) 02:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

:Hi there! Thank you for your efforts in good faith. Stub sorting doesn't involve POV, but at the moment the issue is quantity. As the {{cl|Ambazonia}} and its sub-cats currently hold only 10 articles, it doesn't seem as though it will reach the usual threshold of 60+ articles to merit a stub category, and indeed I don't think that's anough to merit an upmerged stub template either. Anyone else have thoughts?

::{{ping|Pegship}} My sole concern was avoiding using the Cameroon-stub template. Not because I have a problem with it myself, but because it is sure to provoke accusations of POV pushing. While I am not sure if we'll hit the threshold you mentioned anytime soon, I am planning to write short articles about ministers, activists, militias and militia leaders, and quite a few will probably be of stub length since there is only limited information available. If the Ambazonia-stub template has to be deleted, I'd appreciate any input in regards to what to replace it with. Cheers! [[User:Mikrobølgeovn|Mikrobølgeovn]] ([[User talk:Mikrobølgeovn|talk]]) 20:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

:::The next administrative level would be {{cl|Central Africa geography stubs}}, but I'm still not sure how many articles require an Ambazonia stub of any kind. Does anyone else have input as to the possible re-assignment of Cameroon stub types to Ambazonia types? '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 21:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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===Speedy: French politician categories - S1===

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[[:Category:French politician stubs]] is over populated and should be split. Currently, {{tl|France-politician-PCF-stub}} has 65 transclusions, and should be spun off to create a subcategory (like [[:Category:Socialist Party (France) politician stubs]]). --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 18:13, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

:Sounds good to me! '''[[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship|speak]])'' 01:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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