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Line 1: {{Archive\|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting}} ==Proposals, May 2019== ~~Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.~~ ~~=== NEW PROPOSALS ===~~ <!--Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to [[WP:AFC]] for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{tl\|Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles. --> ===Song stubs=== <!--PLEASE READ [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals#Proposing_new_stub_types_-_procedure]] BEFORE PROPOSING A STUB TYPE. THE NUMBER OF ARTICLES THAT QUALIFY HAS A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE RESULT OF YOUR PROPOSAL.--> {{sfp create}} I'd like to create stub categories and templates for {{tl\|1990s-hiphop-song-stub}} and {{tl\|2010s-R&B-song-stub}} to parse down [[:Category:Hip hop song stubs]] (over 300 stub articles) and [[:Category:Rhythm and blues song stubs]] (over 90 stub articles), respectively, as well as continue their decade stub categorization schemes. Most will fall into the requested new stub categories outside of a pre-1990s hip hop songs and pre-1950s R&B songs to meet the 60+ needed. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars\|Talk to me]]</sup> 01:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC) '''Support''' both, provided there are 60+ articles that can use it in each category. I'm not sure [[:Category:Rhythm and blues song stubs]] will need a 2010s split. '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 17:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} === Norwegian film biography stubs === ~~<!-- Please don't use templates in section headers. This prevents proper navigation to sections. --->~~ {{sfp create}} [[:Category:Norwegian people stubs]] is over four pages/800 articles; this is one notable absence from subcats. Just manually going through I am fairly confident I can get it over 60. [[User:Gnomingstuff\|Gnomingstuff]] ([[User talk:Gnomingstuff\|talk]]) 18:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC) '''Support''' - Petscan shows [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=2&categories=Norwegian%20people%20stubs%0D%0ANorwegian%20film%20people&negcats=Norwegian%20actors&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit= 97 articles that would qualify], excluding Norwegian actor stubs. '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 20:28, 2 June 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} === College football season stubs by decade === {{sfp create}} There are currently well over 4500 articles in [[:Category:College football season stubs]]. No sub-categories currently exist, but obviously some are necessary. I propose that we sub-categorize the stub articles by decade. As such: {{unbulleted list \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1860s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1860s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1870s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1870s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1880s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1880s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1890s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1890s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1900s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1900s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1910s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1910s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1920s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1920s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1930s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1930s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1940s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1940s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1950s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1950s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1960s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1960s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1970s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1970s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1980s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1980s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-1990s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-1990s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-2000s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-2000s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> \|<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Collegefootball-2010s-season-stub\|Collegefootball-2010s-season-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> }} '''[[User:Clone200\|Rektroth]]''' 21:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC) :{{ping\|Clone200}} If we do this, would you be interested in a bot sorting all of the stubs for you? --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 22:01, 16 May 2019 (UTC) ::{{ping\|Rektroth}} ^^ --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 22:01, 16 May 2019 (UTC) :::{{ping\|DannyS712}} That would certainly save time. '''-- [[User:Rektroth\|The Man Known as Rektroth]]''' 22:06, 16 May 2019 (UTC) ::::{{ping\|Rektroth}} Let me know once the proposal is closed and I'll file a brfa --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 02:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC) ::{{ping\|Pegship}} it has been well over 5 days - can this be closed so that I can run the bot? Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 07:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC) :::At the risk of being repetitive: I'd rather not close a discussion in which I've expressed an opinion; it was recently explained to me that that is Not Done. Anyone else? '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 21:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} ~~<!--Please add any new proposals for new stub templates / categories immediately after this line using heading level 3-->~~ ===NRHP stubs for U.S. Virgin Islands, and for U.S. possessions in the Pacific=== {{sfp create}} There currently exist 206 articles in generic [[:Category:National Register of Historic Places stubs]]. The vast majority of U.S. NRHP stub articles are in subcategories already existing: [[:Category:Midwestern National Register of Historic Places stubs‎]] Line 15 ⟶ 53: [[:Category:Southern National Register of Historic Places stubs‎]] [[:Category:Western National Register of Historic Places stubs‎]] which are further subcategorized by U.S. states, and [[:Category:Puerto Rico Registered Historic Place stubs‎]] :Note that the "Puerto Rico" category currently has 91 members. There are 350 NRHPs listed in Puerto Rico, 182 of which have articles so far, and 108 of which are stubs, per [[wp:NRHPPROGRESS]] report as of today. So 168 new articles may be created for existing NRHPs, plus articles for new NRHP listings. There remain 206 in the remaining, generic "NRHP stubs" category, most of which I see are from the U.S Virgin Islands, from Guam, from other Pacific territories, etc. Per [[wp:NRHPPROGRESS]], the total of stubs in these areas ~~are~~is '''189''' (35 + 75 + 25 + 25 + 22 + 5 + 2 + 0 = 189). (So perhaps 17 in the generic category should be put into already existing categories. But ~~the other~~another explanation for discrepancy in numbers is that there are formerly listed NRHP places, e.g. demolished buildings, which properly have a NRHP-stub and are categorized in the NRHP system, but are not counted in the NRHPPROGRESS report, which covers just current listings. A further explanation is that separate articles are sometimes created for individual contributing buildings within NRHP-listed historic districts, and are not counted in NRHPPROGRESS report.) I propose: ;to cover all those on the Atlantic side of the U.S., ~~i.e.~~(all of which are in the ~~Caribbean~~U.S. Virgin Islands, (besides those in Puerto Rico): [[:Category:United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs‎]], corresponding to the 87 NRHP-listed places, 44 of which have articles, '''35''' of which are stubs. It would be possible to further divide this into [[:Category:Saint Croix, United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs‎]] (40 NRHPs, 22 articles, 18 stubs) [[:Category:Saint John, United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs‎]] (26 NRHPs, 11 articles, 11 stubs) *[[:Category:Saint Thomas, United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs‎]] (21 NRHPs, 11 articles, 6 stubs) :but my proposal is to make just one for all of these VI ones together. Note that the number of stubs can grow from current 35 as new articles are created for the 43 current NRHPs that are currently redlinks ~~and~~, for new NRHP listings in VI, and for split-outs of any individual contributing buildings from NRHP historic districts. I am myself creating more VI stubs these days. :Note that there do already exist general geography stubs {{tl\|SaintCroixVI-geo-stub}}, {{tl\|SaintJohnVI-geo-stub}}, {{tl\|SaintThomasVI-geo-stub}}, and their articles are categorized into [[:Category:United States Virgin Islands geography stubs]] with just the St. Croix ones subcategorized into [[:Category:Saint Croix, United States Virgin Islands geography stubs]]. I think all the NRHP ones, out of these, can be put into just one NRHP-stub subcategory. ;to cover all the rest, which are all in U.S. territories and other possessions in the Pacific: [[:~~Pacific Ocean~~Category:Oceania Registered Historic Place stubs]], corresponding to the 238 (132+37+31+26+6+4+2) NRHPs, 199 (97+35+29+26+6+4+2) articles, ~~129~~and '''154''' (75+25+25+22+5+2+0) stubs. (See below for detail by each of 7 possessions, and see [[wp:NRHPPROGRESS]].) :I wondered if this should be called "Pacific Ocean Registered Historic Place stubs" instead, but the definition of [[Oceania]] seems to fit well. Oceania is a generally understood term and is defined to be vast, running from Australia and arguably to include even as far east as Hawaii, so includes all of these. (The Hawaii NRHP ones are properly covered in [[:Category:Western National Register of Historic Places stubs]]. I think "Oceania" is clear in this context, and will be understood to include all of these, without confusion about the U.S. state of Hawaii.) ~~:I wondered if this could be called "Oceania Registered Historic Place stubs" but definitions of [[Oceania]] vary and might not include all of these.~~ :It would be possible to further divide this into: :[[:Category:Guam Registered Historic Place stubs]], corresponding to the 132 NRHPs in Guam, of which 97 have articles and 75 are stubs. :[[:Category:Northern Mariana Islands Registered Historic Places stubs]], corresponding to ~~the~~ 37 NRHPs, ~~of which~~ 35 articles ~~and~~. 25 ~~are~~ stubs. :[[:Category:American Samoa Registered Historic Place stubs]], corresponding to ~~the~~ 31 NRHPs, 29 ~~have~~ articles, 25 ~~are~~ stubs. :[[:Category:Federated States of Micronesia Registered Historic Places stubs]], corresponding to ~~the~~ 26 NRHPs, 26 ~~have~~ articles, 22 ~~are~~ stubs. :[[:Category:Palau Registered Historic Places stubs]], 6 NRHPs, 6 have articles, 5 are stubs. :[[:Category:Marshall Islands Registered Historic Places stubs]], 4 NRHPs, 4 articles, 2 stubs. :[[:Category:U.S. Minor Outlying Islands Registered Historic Places stubs]], 2 NRHPs, 2 articles, 0 stubs. :but my proposal is to make just one for all these ~~Pacific Ocean~~Oceania ones together. Note the number of stubs can grow from current ~~129~~154 as new articles are created for the 60 current NRHPs that are currently redlinks, for separation of contributing buildings from historic district articles, and for new NRHP listings in ~~the Pacific~~Oceania, which would include on [[Wake Island]] and other places where there are not yet any NRHPs. :--[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 17:41, 16 May 2019 (UTC) '''Support'''. The above is a brilliant proposal! :) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram#top\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Doncram\|contribs]]) 01:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)</small> ::Very well put! I agree! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram#top\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Doncram\|contribs]]) </small> '''Comment/Update''': I went ahead and created the stub template for U.S. Virgin Islands NRHPs: {{tl\|VirginIslands-NRHP-stub}}, and created corresponding [[:Category:United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs‎]], and populated that. There are currently 40 stubs now with the template, in the category. --[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 11:11, 29 May 2019 (UTC) ::And further I created [[:Category:Oceania Registered Historic Places stubs]] and found that {{tl\|Guam-NRHP-stub}} already existed, and I revised the latter to put its articles into the Oceania NRHP stubs category rather than the generic NRHP stubs category. --[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 11:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC) ::And further i found {{tl\|AmericanSamoa-NRHP-stub}} and revised it the same way. At this moment there are 84 stubs in the Oceania NRHP category. Hey this discussion is great! --[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 00:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC) {{outdent}}Okay, and I finished going through all the original 206 items in the unsatisfactory generic NRHP category, and assigned them out. The final hierarchy is: [[Template:Oceania-NRHP-stub]] puts an item into [[:Category:Oceania stubs]] and into [[:Category:Oceania Registered Historic Places stubs]] . *This is used directly for Micronesia NRHP ones and other stray ones. [[Template:AmericanSamoa-NRHP-stub]] puts an item into [[:Category:American Samoa stubs]] and into the Oceania NRHP stubs. [[Template:Guam-NRHP-stub]] puts into [[:Category:Guam stubs]] and into Oceania NRHP stubs. [[Template:NorthernMarianaIslands-NRHP-stub]] puts into [[:Category:Northern Mariana Islands stubs]] and into Oceania NRHP stubs. *[[Template:Palau-NRHP-stub]] puts into [[:Category:Palau stubs]] and into Oceania NRHP stubs. And in the end there are 148 members of the Oceania NRHP stubs category, and 47 in [[:Category:United States Virgin Islands Registered Historic Place stubs]]. And only one proper member in the original [[:Category:National Register of Historic Places stubs]]. All done i think. --[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 03:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC) ::Ready to be closed, I think. [[User:Pegship\|Pegship]] or other regular here, is this okay, and could you close? Thanks. --[[User:Doncram\|Doncram]] ([[User talk:Doncram\|talk]]) 20:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} ===Australian rules biography, 1910s birth stubs=== {{sfp create}} [[:Category:Australian rules biography, 1910s birth stubs]] currently has over 1,000 pages. I propose that it be split by year of birth (1910-1919). Each year has enough pages for a category: 1910: [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&categories=1910%20births%0D%0AAustralian%20rules%20biography%2C%201910s%20birth%20stubs&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit= 105] Line 61 ⟶ 118: :{{ping\|Pegship}} Since BRFAs usually link to a discussion that agreed that a bot run would be okay/desired, do you also support a bot implementing the split? --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 16:53, 15 May 2019 (UTC) Agreed. '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 16:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC) :{{ping\|Pegship}} it has been well over 5 days - can this be closed so that I can create the templates and run the bot? Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 07:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC) *:::::I'd rather not close a discussion in which I've expressed an opinion; it was recently explained to me that that is Not Done. Anyone else? '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 21:35, 25 May 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} === Music award stubs/Science award stubs === {{sfp create}} Currently [[:Category:Award stubs]] is overpopulated; a cursory scan several Polaris Awards, a bunch of Dove Awards, some Grammys/Latin Grammys/Swedish Grammis, various standalone awards. There are also several music awards in [[:Category:Music stubs]], and many sorted into [[:Category:Music event stubs]]. [[User:Gnomingstuff\|Gnomingstuff]] ([[User talk:Gnomingstuff\|talk]]) 18:34, 13 May 2019 (UTC) Science awards are also another large, broad category (and even larger if you say the IEEE awards, of which there are dozens, qualify) [[User:Gnomingstuff\|Gnomingstuff]] ([[User talk:Gnomingstuff\|talk]]) 18:43, 13 May 2019 (UTC). :Holy cats, '''support''' both per nom & overflow! '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 16:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} === Splitting Cycling race stubs === {{sfp create}} Currently, [[:Category:Cycling race stubs]], which is populated by 1 template, has 2,426 different stubs in it. Below is a list of specific races where the current category contains 60 or more stubs that are the yearly iterations of the race. Each of these should have its own new template and category: Paris–Roubaix: [https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&categories=Cycling%20race%20stubs%0D%0AParis%E2%80%93Roubaix&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit= 81] stubs are iterations of the [[Paris–Roubaix]] Line 89 ⟶ 152: ::{{ping\|Pegship}} I didn't see any, but once this is created (if it is) I'll do some further analysis. I was thinking of a new stub template (but not a separate category) for races with 30-59 iterations that are currently stubs, and classifying those separately will make it easier to see what pages may need to be categorized. Also, since BRFAs usually link to a discussion that agreed that a bot run would be okay, do you also support the bot edits? Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 18:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC) :::{{ping\|DannyS712}} I support the bot edits in order to populate upmerged templates, per y'all. '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 16:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC) ::::{{ping\|Pegship}} it has been well over 5 days - can this be closed so that I can create the templates and run the bot? Thanks, --[[User:DannyS712\|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712\|talk]]) 07:49, 25 May 2019 (UTC) :::::I'd rather not close a discussion in which I've expressed an opinion; it was recently explained to me that that is Not Done. Anyone else? '''[[User:Pegship\|Her Pegship]]''' ''([[User talk:Pegship\|speak]])'' 21:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC) {{sfp bottom}} [[Category:WikiProject Stub sorting archives: Proposals 2019\|05]]