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:I read about MichaelkourlasBot, thank you for the link. User and User talk pages are escluded. Category pages should never be blank (btw I checked and I did not find any blank category). About "page moves" we have 2 scenarios: 1) user moves the page and then blank the redirect (misspelling? orphan?), 2) user creates a page, then blanks it and moves the content in a different page (history has not to be kept). Both cases seems appropriate for {{tl|db-blanked}}. Are you talking about these scenarios? -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 15:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::Category pages may be blank, because the pages in them still show up, so they aren't technically blank (only the wikitext is), and categories do not come under [[WP:CSD#G7|G7]] after a blanking. If I user moves a page, and then blanks the resulting redirect, G7 doesn't apply, please read [[WP:CSD#G7]]. - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 18:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
:::<del>It sounds a bit odd to me... but</del> you are right, I'll check also for moved pages. What do I have to do with these blanked redirects? Revert? Ignore? -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 22:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::::I received [[Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7 for redirects created as a result of a pagemove|here]] satisfactory answers to my questions. I'm ready for the trial. -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 14:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Will the bot be warning the creators of the pages it tags? - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 11:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I don't think it is actually necessary, at least not outside user/usertalk space (and I'm going to skip them). I wish to avoid unnecessary edits. Moreover I'm not going to work on recently (less than few days) created or blanked pages and in the rare case of a page "blanked by error" admins can recover it. -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 14:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I think a message would be good. Just a short note to let the creator know what's been done, and how to request deletion in the future. I know that NPPers don't leave notices for G7, but for a bot which is potentially going to be doing a lot more G7 tagging, I think it's a good idea to. Also, will the bot check that the page has actually been blanked (i.e. it wasn't created blank), just checking that there is more than one edit would be enough to cover this. - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 21:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok, I'll drop a note to the creator of the page. At the moment I'm going to consider "blank" only zero-lenght pages and it is not possible to create a completely empty page. -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 11:30, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Should I include also non-empty pages consisting only of whitespaces/carriage returns and with at least 2 edits? -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 11:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I think you can count whitespace as blank. And it is highly unlikely that someone could create a page blank, but technically possible, as MBisanz demonstrated [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MBisanz/EditCounterOptIn.js&diff=prev&oldid=353396205 here] - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 16:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
With the blank creation check mentioned above, {{BotTrial|edits=10 to 30}} - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 22:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:{{BotTrialComplete}} As you requested I added the user messages and the ability to skip of pages created with a page move (logged for manual checking) or pages with less than 2 revisions. English is not my mother tongue, in your opinion is the [[User talk:Fsmatovu#Template:Economy of Southern Sudan is going to be deleted|automated message]] ok? -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-family:Verdana; font-size:1em; color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 13:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::Seems pretty good. Do you think you could make the bot place deletion tags on template pages inside <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags? Or even better make it check if the page is transcluded anywhere, and if so use the noincludes? I'll work on the warning template, I think I can make a few improvements. - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 22:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, is there any problem if I place the G7 deletion tag always within <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags? -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font:small-caps 1em Verdana;color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 23:09, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Nope, you could do that, but it may cause a bit of confusion for users, I don't personally see a problem with it. I've created a message at [[User:Kingpin13/FrescoBot Warning Template]] which you could use. I don't see a need for an image, unless you want to keep it? - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 23:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well, image is not actually necessary... but I like it. :) I added a check for transclusion (wraps in noinclude and asks me for manual confirmation), and updated the message. I've just performed a couple of edit tests. -- [[User:Basilicofresco|<span style="font:small-caps 1em Verdana;color:green">Basilicofresco</span>]] ([[User talk:Basilicofresco|msg]]) 09:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
{{botApproved}} Seems to have gone smoothly. - [[User:Kingpin13|Kingpin]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Kingpin13|13]]</sup> ([[User talk:Kingpin13|talk]]) 20:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
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