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===[[:Map-based controller]]===▼
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The result was '''no consensus'''. I'm leaning to a keep here but I'm going with no consensus. Please discuss article renaming and improvements on the talk page of the appropriate place. Thanks everyone. [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain|talk]]) 16:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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The article has been unsourced since Feb 2007. After 15 years, I think a deletion discussion is appropriate. [[User:Coin945|Coin945]] ([[User talk:Coin945|talk]]) 08:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Engineering|list of Engineering-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shellwood|Shellwood]] ([[User talk:Shellwood|talk]]) 09:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)</small>
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*'''Speedy keep''' all of Coin945's AfDs from today as a procedural matter. Coin945 has nominated ''72'' articles in a short space of time with a questionable rationale ("long-term lack of sourcing" -- see [[WP:NEXIST]]) and no indication of [[WP:BEFORE]], with {{replyto|Uncle G|p=}} finding that a number of them can have their notability confirmed on literally the first page of Google results. This is not something the relatively small group of people who work AfD can realistically handle. [[User:Vaticidalprophet|<b style="color:#000">Vaticidal</b>]][[User talk:Vaticidalprophet|<b style="color:#66023C">prophet</b>]] 11:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
* {{cite book|title=Modeling and Control of Engines and Drivelines|author1-first=Lars|author1-last=Eriksson|author2-first=Lars|author2-last=Nielsen|publisher=John Wiley & Sons|year=2014|isbn=9781118479995|section=10.1.2 Basic control using maps|pages=274–275<!--|chapter=Basic control of SI engines--> }}<p>[[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 15:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
*<s>'''Delete''' nothing here, even with the provided source, rises above dictionary defintion level. This is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. We need to consider the use and history or a thing, not merely what it is, and this article does not do that.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 19:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)</s>
*'''Comment''' We now have a source. However GNG wants us to have multiple sources. Clearly this should not be speedy kept. It should be allowed to stand and given time so people can try and find more sources.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 13:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
*'''Question''' Is this related to a [[MAP sensor]]? Says it is used in internal combustion engines.--[[User:Rusf10|Rusf10]] ([[User talk:Rusf10|talk]]) 20:49, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
**{{ping|Rusf10}} Thanks for spotting this. No it's not related – this one is about [[map (mathematics)]] – but someone has apparently conflated the two. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Map-based_controller&diff=prev&oldid=1017908556 removed] the statement from the article. [[User:No such user|No such user]] ([[User talk:No such user|talk]]) 08:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to [[Lookup table#Data acquisition and control systems]]. I'm vaguely familiar with the control-systems field, and I don't think that a "map-based controller" is a "thing" in itself. Rather, it's a rather vague description of a "controller that has a lookup table", and many control system designs have one. Googling scholarly articles for "map-based control(ler)", it seems that most of those take the term as a descriptive phrase rather than a term of art, i.e. more or less a [[WP:DICDEF]]. It does not seem that the sources out there will permit writing a coherent article – the term is too vague to be useful. [[User:No such user|No such user]] ([[User talk:No such user|talk]]) 08:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
*'''Keep but rename''' to [[map-based control]]. This properly belongs as a topic in [[control theory]], not in the theory of lookup tables. Google Scholar has nearly 500 hits for "map-based control", 26 of them in the title. Google Books also has some relevant-looking hits, and there are many others for closely-related phrases such as "map-based ECMS" (one particular application of this technique with over 100 GS hits). There should be plenty of adequate sourcing among them, although the sourcing in the current stub looks adequate for a stub. Although there are also hits for "map-based controller", they are significantly less numerous. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 07:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
*:[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]]: but I honestly looked for in-depth coverage, and came up empty. As I said, most papers are devoted to particular applications and take the term for granted. I opened a couple of control theory textbooks at GBooks, expecting a section or a chapter on the topic (looking for "map" or "lookup"), but did not find anything. I'm not an expert in the field, granted, but if after 15 years of existence all that we can say is that there {{tq|should be plenty of adequate sourcing among them}} without anyone finding it, we'd be better off without this article, without prejudice of a recreation. Yes, [[WP:ITEXISTS]], but the current single sentence amounting to a dicdef is not useful for anyone. [[User:No such user|No such user]] ([[User talk:No such user|talk]]) 14:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
*'''Keep and rename''', to [[Lookup table-based control system]]. The term [[map-based controller]] is used almost exclusively to describe an [[Engine control unit]], which is an application of a lookup table-based control system. This article uses the name of the former but describes it in the general terms of the latter. I can find [[WP:RS]] for both. There is obviously no point in adding lots of ECU references and ultimately duplicating that article. Here are a bunch of references, to show notability across a range of applications.<ref>{{cite book |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=mbMSv8NtuYwC&pg=PA271 |title=First Course on Fuzzy Theory and Applications |author=Kwang Hyung Lee |publisher=[[Springer Science & Business Media]] |date=30 November 2006 |page=271|isbn=978-3-540-32366-2 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=229_DwAAQBAJ&pg=PA454 |title=Classical and Modern Controls with Microcontrollers: Design, Implementation and Applications |author1=Ying Bai |author2=Zvi S. Roth |year=2018 |isbn=9783030013820 |publisher=[[Springer International Publishing]] |pages=454–457}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |url=https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/78299 |author1=Chin-Hsing Cheng |author2=Yuan-Yih Hsu |title=Excitation control of a synchronous generator using a lookup table |journal=IEEE Transactions on Aerospace and Electronic Systems |volume=27 |issue=2 |pages=247–254 |year=1991 |doi=10.1109/7.78299|bibcode=1991ITAES..27..247C }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |chapter-url=https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4544120 |author1=J. Lee |author2=K. Nam |author3=S. Choi |author4=S. Kwon |title=2007 IEEE Vehicle Power and Propulsion Conference |chapter=A Lookup Table Based Loss Minimizing Control for FCEV Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motors |year=2007 |pages=175–179 |doi=10.1109/VPPC.2007.4544120 |isbn=978-0-7803-9760-6 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=NJe-NdZzgGMC&pg=PA61 |title=Closed-Loop Control of Blood Glucose |author1=Frederick Chee |author2=Tyrone Fernando |year=2007 |pages=61–62 |isbn=9783540740308 |publisher=[[Springer Publishing|Springer]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=TG7wDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA437 |title=Recent Developments and the New Direction in Soft-Computing Foundations and Applications |year=2018 |chapter=Piecewise Multi-linear Model Based Lookup Table Controller for Nonlinear Systems with Input Constraints |author1=Tadanari Taniguchi |author2=Michio Sugeno |isbn=9783030471248 |publisher=[[Springer International Publishing]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite tech report |url=https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20170005423/downloads/20170005423.pdf |format=pdf |title=Pattern Recognition Control Design |author=Elisabeth A. Gambone |publisher=[[NASA]]}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |url=http://people.ece.umn.edu/groups/VLSIresearch/papers/2008/TVLSI08_Bodybias.pdf |journal=IEEE Transactions on Very Large Scale Integration (VLSI) Systems |volume=16 |issue=3 |year=2008 |pages=249–262 |title=Body Bias Voltage Computations for Process and Temperature Compensation |author1=Sanjay V. Kumar |author2=Chris H. Kim |author3=Sachin S. Sapatnekar|doi=10.1109/TVLSI.2007.912137 }}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/215530665 |title=Gain-scheduled model-based feedback control of the air/fuel ratio in diesel engines |year=2009 |journal=Control Engineering Practice |volume=17 |issue=12 |pages=1417–1425 |doi=10.1016/j.conengprac.2008.12.008 |author1=Ezio Alfieri |author2=Alois Amstutz |author3=Lino Guzzella}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |url=https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0020720915571492 |journal=The International Journal of Electrical Engineering & Education |title=Microcontroller implementation of lookup table-based control functions with special emphasis on sequential control according to IEC 61131-3 |author1=Krisztián Lamár |author2=Péter Zalotay |year=2015 |volume=52 |issue=2 |pages=111–130 |doi=10.1177/0020720915571492}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |chapter-url=https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7496360 |author1=M. Beckerleg |author2=R. Hogg |title=2016 IEEE 14th International Workshop on Advanced Motion Control (AMC) |chapter=Evolving a lookup table based motion controller for a ball-plate system with fault tolerant capabilites |year=2016 |pages=257–262 |doi=10.1109/AMC.2016.7496360 |isbn=978-1-4799-8464-0 }}</ref><ref>{{cite book |chapter-url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278300786 |chapter=Lookup Table Based Fuzzy Controller Implementation in Low-power Microcontrollers of Hexapod Robot Szabad(ka)-II |year=2015 |title=3rd International Conference & Workshop Mechatronics in Practice and Education – MECHEDU 2015 |author=Istvan Kecskes }}</ref>
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There is also a small amount of information on lookup table-based control systems already here: [[Lookup table#Data acquisition and control systems]]. [[User:SailingInABathTub|SailingInABathTub]] ([[User talk:SailingInABathTub|talk]]) 20:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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