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Not a bad article. There were a few points that are too opinionated and don't fit in with a factual encyclopedia article, but on the whole not bad. I deleted the last paragraph due to my previous statement.--[[User:Jfulkerson|Jfulkerson]] 20:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)Jfulkerson

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

This article makes Huckabee out to be some kind of savior. It is only contrasted by a small "criticisms" section at the end, designed to provide an opposing point of view. Unfortunately, it falls short and ultimately makes the article too opinionated for Wikipedia.--[[User:Nscaife|Nscaife]] 23:13, 19 December 2005 (UTC)Nscaife

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I added some more information about the Dumond case in order to provide a more complete picture of what happened. There are still some problems with this entry, but this hopefully balances it out a little more. [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 23:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

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The Dumond section needs to be rewritten. The information about the case is political. It has information regarding the Dumond case which; (1) does not help explain the criticism against Huckabee, (2) uses misleading articles to dismiss the criticism, and (3) is untrue and from unreliable sources. First, it fails to discuss the criticism against Huckabee, for example the fact Huckabee may have lied about his actions taken and used political pressure to get Dumond released. Second, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette article it cites to dismiss the criticism is misleading because it is not discussing the clemencies actually granted but is looking at the number granted. Third, the main source it cites disregards most of the other sources this article uses, speicifically articles written by Steve Dunleavy. ("What {Steve} Dunleavy has written about the Dumond saga has been either unverified or is demonstrably untrue".) <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Afberry25|Afberry25]] ([[User talk:Afberry25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Afberry25|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

:I do agree that the section in its previous form spent too much time on things that didn't have to do with Huckabee. I was just trying to give the whole story, but I agree now that much of it probably was not relevant to this page. As far as Huckabee's possible attempts to influence the board, the section does mention that and also mentions that he denies it. I'm not sure what else there is to say. If you have anything else notable to add, please do so. As far as the unreliable source (Dunleavy), I only used him as an example of a critic of Clinton's and in order to provide the quote from Dumond's wife. Just because he was wrong about Dumond's innocence doesn't mean we can't use his articles as sources for direct quotes from 3rd parties. Finally, I do agree that the wording of the last sentence is unclear, so I will try to fix that. Thanks for pointing out the problems. Let me know if there's anything else that needs revision. [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 02:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

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Please do not remove the POV tag without an explanation. -- [[User:Scaife|Scaife]] 17:02, 06 February 2006

:There doesn't seem to be an explanation about why the POV tag is there in the first place.. at least not for the Dumond stuff. [[User:TastyCakes|TastyCakes]] 18:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

::[[User:Nscaife|NScaife]] added the POV tag for the reasons he stated above. That was before any of the Dumond stuff was added. The reason there is an original research tag in the Dumond section is because I hadn't added the appropriate references yet (since I wasn't sure how to do it at the time). I still need to find the full info on some of the citations, but I think it's mostly covered so I'll remove that tag later if there are no objections. - [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 21:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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Does anyone have any objections to removing the POV tag? [[User:Scaife|Scaife]]'s reasons for the tag appear to have been addressed for the most part. There is now a significant criticism section to balance Huckabee's accomplishments. I'll remove it in a week or so if there are no objections. [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 21:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

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Need citations badly. --[[User:Scaife|Scaife]] 12:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

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==Reclaiming America==

Citation Here: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/PAGES/CONFERENCES/RAC2006/default.asp[[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 01:21, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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Information in Early Years Section also appears in periodical Current Biography, November 2005

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==Health Advocacy and Personal Weight-Loss==

There doesn't seem to be much mention of his actions promoting anti-obesity stuff, although that's the only reason I've heard of him. Does anyone else think there should be more on this? [[User:128.189.131.157|128.189.131.157]] 06:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

: You're right. Right now, there's only a one-sentence parenthetical summary in the "Other Accomplishments" section. That could be expanded into a full paragraph in that section. - [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 06:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

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::I switched things around a bit. Gov. Huckabee's weight-loss deserves a more prominent role on his page than just the little footnotes & fun-facts. It was a profound moment in his life, both in personal and policy terms as well. Not only does losing 110 pounds through diet and exercise say something about a person, but as a governor, it has also shaped his political goals of reforming Arkansas health-care. I didn't source or cite the new information--sorry about that. If you're curious, the facts that I included were partly from what I've learned from C-SPAN and some CBS News web-interview that I saw him in over the past year or so. I was just too lazy to track the acutal sources down. Also, I ask everybody, would be appropriate to put a, "before," and "after," photo of Governor Huckabee for the wiki article? Or would that be over-playing the weight-loss thing? Thanks All!! Larry

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

:::Thanks for your contribution Larry. I do agree that the weight-loss thing deserves more of a mention here. However, sources are mandatory. If you need time to find sources, we can just put a tag in the meantime, but you do need to insert them eventually. Also, you did appear to repeat some things that were already in the article, so I had to take those out. Note that you can't just copy and paste information from other sources, you have to rewrite it in your own words. Let me know if you have any questions [[User:Maximusveritas|Maximusveritas]] 04:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

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: I have not been involved with this article up to this point (and I'm short on time at the moment), so I leave this link for you guys to decide whether it has a place. [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/us/10weight.html?ei=5065&en=102c873eb1d930af&ex=1158465600&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print NY Times Article on Huckabee's weightloss]

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HUckabee's statements that jewish kidnappers who put him in a concentration camp should be added either to this section or to 'controversies'. [[http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2592474]]. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 01:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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Editors should review the policy on living persons.

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:Editors should remove any controversial material about living persons that is either unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Reliable sources, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source. In cases where the information is derogatory and poorly sourced or unsourced, this kind of edit is an exception to the three-revert rule.

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If you want to add something negative, it's ''your'' responsibility to make sure it's sourced and NPOV. If you don't, by policy it should (and if I'm around will) be removed wholesale any number of times. [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 21:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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:I have to caution you, you're quite clearly announcing you've got a bias and an agenda here, and should be careful not to become uncivil with editors seeking to add legitimate criticisms of the subject. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 21:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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::Advising you of a policy you are violating is not uncivil. I have clearly announced I intend to follow content policies; labeling this "a bias and an agenda" is itself getting close to incivility. In any case, please review the policy. Further, you should be aware that removals of this kind of material are not subject to the [[WP:3RR]], but additions of it are. [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 21:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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Certain editors appear to still not understand the [[WP:BLP]] policy:

== The article should elaborate more on the [[Wayne Dumond]] case ==

:The views of critics should be represented if their views are relevant to the subject's notability and are based on reliable sources, and so long as the material is written in a manner that does not overwhelm the article '''or appear to side with the critics' material'''. (emph. added)

The article currently just says that the Dumond pardon was controversial without elaborating on ''why'' it was controversial. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 11:14, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Condescending to partially follow one part of a policy (after putting up a huge fight) does not license you to violate the rest of the policy. Incidentally, the text ''does not'' follow the source policy. E.g., "a group of convicts whom many believe are innocent of the crimes of which they are accused." is sourced to "Free the West Memphis Three", hardly an acceptible source. Even apart from this, it remains biased in tone: "an error-filled e-mail", etc.

== "Huckapedia" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==

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== Unbalanced public image section ==

Furthermore, the lengthy (and from what I read biased) West Memphis Three article does not include the text "Huckabee". Where's the notability? [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 18:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I just tagged the "Public image" section as unbalanced. If one goes to the fuller article linked there, [[Public image of Mike Huckabee]], one will find negatives as well as positives... but in this article, it's just a list of honors and such, nothing negative, and that hardly gives a sense of the public image of this controversial man. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 00:36, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

:If you don't think it's good enough, fix it so it is. This repeated deletion thing is getting tiresome. Editors fix it, you find fault, and delete, it gets fixed more, you still find fault. Since you're the only one who can find your own high standard, bring it up to that point. Further, citing that another article isn't up to snuff hardly validates removals at this article.[[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 00:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

::Hey! I think I fixed the issue you tagged by moving some items into Personal Life, since they have nothing to do with his Public image, and then let the link to the new article stay as the Public image link. That secondary article seems to stand alone well enough without duplicating it. Oddly enough I didn't notice your note here until I had already fixed it. Small world ;) [[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 20:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

:::I'm not sure that "personal life" is the appropriate place for awards granted to him for his governing work. That his "public image" section wasn't balanced is not a reason not to have a public image section, but to balance it. There should be a short section here, summarizing the material from the other article --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 22:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

::::I understand. Summarizing seems quite a task since I haven't read the other article, but I am looking for something to tackle, so I can work on that. Hopefully you will chime back in for input.[[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 16:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

:::::1. It is my understanding that an article summary does not need footnotes so long as it accurately reflects properly footnoted portions of the article it is summarizing. Am I right? 2. There are many sources in the Huckabee Public Image article that do not meet the reliable sources criteria. If I search and cannot find reliable corroboration of his statements in reliable sources, may that material be deleted, especially since this is about a live person? [[User:Ihaveadreamagain|Ihaveadreamagain]] 18:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

:::::#While vague summaries ("Licorice has both its fans and detractors") don't need to be sourced, it is generally a good idea to put in footnotes on specific claims if it is easy to do so, because that other article is subject to being changed without that change being reflected here.

:::::#Yes, [[WP:BLP]] standards do apply to that other article, and improperly sourced material can be deleted... and improperly sourced material that can be viewed as negative ''should'' be deleted. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 19:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

== Chinese identification ==

::Okay, I'm a full-blooded conservative Republican myself, and even I think this is getting tiresome. We went through this same thing on the [[Condoleezza Rice]] article over the summer, and when it comes down to it, [[WP:BLP]] is not sufficient grounds to remove well-cited criticism such as this. Repeated deletion of such legitimate, validated, and factual criticisms only comes across as lacking NPOV on your part. Whether or not this is actually the case, it gives you the appearance of being a Huckabee supporter who is trying to stretch every little rule in order to keep legitimate criticism of your favorite candidate off the page, and that would be called having a biased agenda. The sources that the West Memphis Three criticism section cites are completely legitimate and inherently relevant to the Criticism section of this article. To assert otherwise is, by nature, fallacious. --[[User:Ai.kefu|Ai.kefu]] 03:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Huckabee tweeted a (very unfunny, but that's par) joke about identifying as Chinese. Given that he was clearly joking, that the reliable sources note that it was a [https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-mike-huckabee-identies-as-chinese-20210404-dc57miiff5f7dgbq4ngw3kg7ku-story.html sarcastic] [https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3128314/mike-huckabee-blasted-tweet-saying-he-has-decided quip] rather than a statement, and that he used scare quotes in his phrasing, we should not be pretending it was a serious statement and that that is how he identifies. I have reverted the addition; it should not be readded until consensus is reached to do so. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 14:56, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I explained with specific citation of policy and specific quotations from the paragraph in question. Your accusations of partisanship are uncivil, and your claim in the edit summary that "It was FULLY cited" was demonstratedly false when you made it.

== Jewish group reactions ==

Your claim that I bear any responsibility to "fix it" is alse clearly wrong per policy:

[https://forward.com/fast-forward/707050/what-jewish-groups-are-saying-ahead-of-mike-huckabees-confirmation-hearing-to-be-israel-ambassador/ This] might be of use. [[User:FortunateSons|FortunateSons]] ([[User talk:FortunateSons|talk]]) 09:19, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:"The responsibility for justifying controversial claims in Wikipedia, of '''all kinds''', but especially for living people's bios, rests firmly on the shoulders of the person making the claim." (emph. original)

If you want it included it is "firmly" ''your'' responsibility to fix it. Speculating as to my motives does not license you to start ignoring basic content policies.

Although it's slightly better now, it still takes the critics' side and still gives undue weight. [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 19:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:Your objection on the grounds that it 'takes the critics' side' is spurious on its face. Given it's subject matter, there is NO way to submit the information without mentioning that many were critical of Huckabee. That's why it is in the 'Criticisms' section. If you can source something properly which states that millions were overjoyed by Huckabee's actions, please do. But this is gettign ridiculously frustrating. Multiple editors continue to try to meet your standards, we met your intial complaints, and now your only reply to specific issues is to cite [[WP:BLP]] in a general way, and refer back to earlier issues, many, if not all of which were addressed since by editors acting to work towards gettign the information in. Yet you still stand in the way. However, the difference now is that you cannot now provide specific objections. Please do. I will hold off reverting until you do, within reason. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 23:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Contrary to what you seem to think, mentioning a critic and making that critic's case are two different things. One is permitted (and is what the article does in the case of all other criticism), the other is not permitted, yet seems to be precisely your goal. Any serious editor should know the difference. You not only elide over it but make patently unfounded declarations of spuriousness, and then false claims that my objections have already been addressed. I have a history of leaving proper criticism untouched and adding neutral information, but you have no history of adding anything but criticism. Your assumption of good faith has almost run out. [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 18:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

::Okay, let's work on this. Here is the paragraph as it stands, after editing:

:::"While Huckabee has been, on the one hand, criticised for the clemency he has granted to criminals during his tenure[17], he has, on the other hand, also been criticised for refusing to reopen investigation into the well-known case of the West Memphis Three (CrimeLibrary profile), a group of convicts whom many believe are innocent of the crimes of which they are accused.[18] During Gov. Huckabee's administration (and since then, as well), there has been a notable movement amongst politicians and celebrities to press for the reopening of the West Memphis Three case. Noteworthy supporters of the "Free the West Memphis Three" cause include Jack Black, Jello Biafra, Marilyn Manson, Winona Ryder, Tom Waits, South Park creator Trey Parker, and former President Bill Clinton (also a former Arkansas governor), who has called it a "troubling case."[19] Two major films have since been released documenting the situation, including an Emmy award-winning documentary on the WM3 case, which aired in the 1990's. Huckabee himself has had little to say on the matter, though the Governor's office did, on March 23, 2003, send out an e-mail to address the matter, which claimed that DNA evidence had conclusively linked the WM3 to their accused crimes and that HBO's documentary was actually fiction.[20] DNA testing for the case has never been completed and test results have never been released,[21] and had the HBO documentary been a "fictionalized account," it would have been disqualified for the Emmy for "Outstanding Achievement in Informational Programming," which it won in 1997 alongside a National Geographic Special.[22] Huckabee's office thereafter refused to comment on the matter.[23]"

::Let's start with the initial foundation at the outset by all of us acknowledging that the West Memphis Three case is both a nationally and internationally well-known situation that is inherently relevant to a comprehensive discussion of Michael Huckabee's tenure as Governor of Arkansas. That is a straight fact, bare to the bone, that does not include any editorializing or POV. It is completely NPOV. So, now that we have established that the WM3 is worth being documented on the [[Mike Huckabee]] Wikipedia article, how do we address the topic in a way that is NPOV? To AJA particularly, what would you like to see removed from the WM3 paragraph to make it NPOV, and in what specific way is each of the things you would like to see removed POV? Please respond to this without making vague statements about an overall negative tone or loose, general references to the [[WP:BLP]] article. --[[User:Ai.kefu|Ai.kefu]] 01:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Demanding that I agree to something and then declaring it "established" is hardly a useful proceedure. Now here's a straight, NPOV fact for you: a Google test of "'West Memphis Three' Huckabee" returns 507 results, which is practically nothing. Also I had a look through the blog entries on the Daily Kos with the keyword "Mike Huckabee". Quite a few harsh words, none related to the West Memphis Three. So that's empirical evidence against notability. I'll admit notability if you can provide greater evidence to the contrary (and that doesn't mean simply declaring that you have it). [[User:A.J.A.|A.J.A.]] 19:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)