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I don't think this is actually true. It has not been reported on any major news site, www.cnn.com, www.bbc.com or www.reuters.com. Fabrication. [[User:Norum|Norum]] 07 Feb 2007

:It is definately true. [[User:Morhange|Morhange]] 01:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

::Definitely. It has been reported in all major Spanish news sites. Poor girl. [[User:Raystorm|Raystorm]] 17:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:::In deference to the circumstances I will only '''comment''' that it is Wikipedia policy to use surnames rather than first names in articles. Perhaps this can be attended to in a day or so? [[User:LessHeard vanU|LessHeard vanU]] 22:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

This page is a nonsense for an ecyclopedia, it is just a normal person like you and me that died. It happens that she was the sister of the princess, but she had no previous public life before she dead, and there have not been political impact either. Wikinews is a good place for this kind of ephemeral news content. [[User:Barcex|Barcex]] 11:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm. It meets notability criteria I believe. Plus she was famous ''before'' she died (in fact, it has been argued that it was the public attention -i.e, paparazzi persecution- due to her sisters' status as Princess that drove her to suicide). There has been a social impact, if not political. [[User:Raystorm|Raystorm]] 22:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

::No, it doesn't. She was just the sister of a princess. She was not a princess herself and she kept herself out of public spotlight. It did not have a political impact and not even a social one, except for the morbid factor. All other things are speculation. She's not relevant or notable. --[[User:Andromeda|Andromeda]] 06:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

:::I agree with Barcex and Andromeda. It is quite difficult (if possible) to find references about her before her death, even in magazines like the Spanish version of [[Hello!]]. I think that few people will remeber who is she in a few weeks. [[User:Er Komandante|Er Komandante]] 15:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC) ''Postdata: her name is "''Érika''", not "''Erika''"

:What Raystorm states is false, almost nobody knew her. It is true that are a few pictures of here in public events, but AFAIK she has not been prosecuted by paparazzis. If I dead you probably will found pictures of me also. There is nothing to say but 'she was the sister of princess Letizia, and she died', no political nor social impact either but newspapers covering the news. [[User:Barcex|Barcex]] 10:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

== It's false ==

Erika was the Letizia's sister. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Stranger23|Stranger23]] ([[User talk:Stranger23|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Stranger23|contribs]]) 15:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Comment ==

You know, there is an article for [[Tessy de Nassau|Tessy Antony]], who was the girlfriend, and is now the wife of [[Prince Louis of Luxembourg]]. She's not really that notable either, and I don't think there were as many google news articles on the day they married, yet Erika, '''because'' she is the younger sister of the Princess of Asturias, recieved many hits, including news sources in the US, and I believe, CNN. I think that solely the fact that her sister was a princess, and the matter in which she died, as well as the attention she recieved post-mortem, and the actual size of this article already, merits a keep. [[User:Morhange|Morhange]] 17:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

That an article for a non-notable person exits, it doesn't means an article for another has to exist too. The hits were only on the day she died, and she is no longer news even here in Spain. The size of the article doesn't matter if the subject matter is non-notable. And she isn't. --[[User:Andromeda|Andromeda]] 19:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't waste yourselves arguing about deletion. You may keep the article separated on its own if that "notability" shit is so important for you. If you decide to not give her her own article, who cares if she was not notable, just insert it and merge it with her "notable" sister princess article and all matters settled.--[[User:Dalegrett|dalegrett]] 16:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)