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*'''Keep''' Google news searches cannot be used to verify a band's influence. Although the band are unsigned, they have subjectively, of course, had an influence on other local bands that cannot be directly proved.[[User: Martyn Jones ]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.54.182.212|87.54.182.212]] ([[User talk:87.54.182.212|talk]]) 19:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'''Comment''' Please refer to [[WP:V]]. Although a band may well have been a major local influence, if this fact can't be verified by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], then Wikipedia can't include it. I repeat my note above that your argument basically reduces to "They're notable because I say they are." That's not how Wikipedia works. [[User:WikiDan61|<span style="color:green;">WikiDan61</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 19:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians|list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Delsort--></small> <small>-- [[User:Fabrictramp|<
*'''Delete''' - there are no [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] writing about this band. Without these sources, claims that they are influential in the Bristol music scene are completely [[WP:V|unverifiable]]. [[WP:N|notability]] is not established. -- [[User:Whpq|Whpq]] ([[User talk:Whpq|talk]]) 16:22, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. The article claims that the band results from the breakup of a "supergroup" called Fate By Chance - which also has zero google hits. Possible hoax. [[User:BD2412/deletion debates|<
*'''Keep''' Author of the article. Firstly, I wrote the article in good faith and as accurately as possible. I realise that the claims made must be reasonably substantiated, however in such an instance, this is difficult. Local bands (especially in that area) only receive comments and reviews in the local media, who only have a paper presence. Moreover, the band are relatively new, unlike the bands mentioned above by Dave Simpson (a reliable source by himself), who can be googled and have been influenced by FID. Aside from this, I am working on obtaining the direct references from the quotes I have used in the article, although this is a difficult process. I do aim to update the article as soon as possible to reflect this. Until then, I would hope the website I have provided within the article would serve to prove the authenticity, at least, of the band.[[User:FID-Fan]] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 22:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'''Comment''' Unfortunately, material published by local papers regarding local bands is generally not considered a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. This is because, unlike major metropolitan, regional or national press outlets, local papers don't have the standards of fact-checking that the larger outlets do. Also, local papers are in the business of promoting local talent, so their coverage of local talent may well be skewed. Also, you argument about the band's influence seems a bit flawed: how can a relatively new band like Falling Into Difference have been such a major influence on older established bands? Influence generally runs from older bands to new bands, not the other way around. Also, the influence on IAMTHEDOOR and My Friend Friday may not be significant, because a Google search proves that those bands don't meet the Wikipedia notability criteria either. [[User:WikiDan61|<span style="color:green;">WikiDan61</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 12:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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