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== Badly Formatted Requests ==
 
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== Absa map of operations ==
 
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Good day team
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==Edit request==
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:[[User:Twotwofourtysix|Twotwofourtysix]] feel free to be bold and add that as an example. You can also try adding some text saying "and more..." or similar. — [[User:Berrely|<span style="color:#000">'''''Berrely'''''</span>]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:Berrely|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contribs/Berrely|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 18:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 
== legends needed for Arabic Varieties map ==
== Request: SVG locator map for English-speaking countries ==
 
@Goran_tek-en made this beautiful map of the distribution of varieties of Arabic, but I can find no legend for the colours or for the numbers with the media file or on the page where it is used :-( Could legends be made part of the image file so that they don't get separated? Or at least linked from the media page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_migrations_to_the_Maghreb#/media/File:Arabic_Varieties_Map-2023.svg
 
Many thanks,
Eva [[Special:Contributions/213.50.106.161|213.50.106.161]] ([[User talk:213.50.106.161|talk]]) 15:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 
== United States involvement in regime change ==
 
Hello. I found out about this place from a discussion on Reddit, where it was noted that a map is sorely needed for [[United States involvement in regime change]]. It should ideally be just like the map in [[Soviet involvement in regime change]], which is excellent.
 
I was told that it'll probably take a long time for someone to do this, but I thought I'd give you a nudge to get the ball rolling. Thanks for all the great work you folks do. [[User:Yesthatbruce|Yesthatbruce]] ([[User talk:Yesthatbruce|talk]]) 09:45, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== Map for FTSE Global Equity Index Series ==
 
Please could somebody take a look at the talk page of [[FTSE Global Equity Index Series]]. The request is for a map (ideally SVG) with around 50 countries shaded, per several other pages (detailed in the request). [[Special:Contributions/92.71.60.61|92.71.60.61]] ([[User talk:92.71.60.61|talk]]) 12:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
 
:For this request to stand a good chance of being taken by someone, you'll have to provide more details, i.e., do the legwork. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 13:12, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
:I don't know about the Graph or Chart Extension, but actually you can get a map similar to the one for MSCI World by deriving it from [[:File:BlankMap-World.svg|BlankMap-World.svg]] by adding a few lines of CSS to its source.
:On its talk page there is a section about [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:BlankMap-World.svg/Documentation#Selecting_and_colouring_countries coloring countries] and you can for instance modify the svg file in a text editor (the talk page also mentions inkscape as another method for modification). If you have basic knowledge of CSS this should be relatively straight-forward after researching the country codes and deciding how to handle small countries (more info on small countries (<code>.circlexx</code>) found in the file itself and again on the talk page).
:I guess you'd like to add something like
:<code>
:/* MSCI World: 23 developed market countries: Australia (au), Austria (at), Belgium (be), Canada (ca), Denmark (dk), Finland (fi), France (fr), Germany (de), Hong Kong (hk), Ireland (ie), Israel (il), Italy (it), Japan (jp), Netherlands (nl), New Zealand (nz), Norway (no), Portugal (pt), Singapore (sg), Spain (es), Sweden (se), Switzerland (ch), the UK (gb) and the US (us). */
:/* FTSE All World (all 23 of MSCI World are included here too, plus 25 new): Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil (br), Canada, Chile (cl), China (cn), Colombia (co), Czech Rep. (cz), Denmark, Egypt (eg), Finland, France, Germany, Greece (gr), Hong Kong, Hungary (hu), Iceland (is), India (in), Indonesia (id), Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea (kr), Kuwait (kw), Malaysia (my), Mexico (mx), Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Phillipines (ph), Poland (pl), Portugal, Qatar (qa), Romania (ro), Saudi Arabia (sa), Singapore, South Africa (za), Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan (tw), Thailand (th), Turkiye (tr), UAE (ae), UK, USA */
:.au, .at, .be, .ca, .dk, .fi, .fr, .de, .hk, .ie, .il, .it, .jp, .nl, .nz, .no, .pt, .sg, .es, .se, .ch, .gb, .us, .br, .cl, .cn, .co, .cz, .eg, .gr, .hu, .is, .in, .id, .kr, .kw, .my, .mx, .ph, .pl, .qa, .ro, .sa, .za, .tw, .th, .tr, .ae
:{
: opacity: 1;
: fill: #045A8D; /* choose your own color here */
:}
:</code>
:The above list of countries for FTSE All world is taken from the Fact Sheet with Data as 31 July 2025, so it might not match the exact list of countries you had in mind (Pakistan?).
:While writing this I realize I might create the SVG myself soon (and upload it to Wikimedia and include it in the English and German Wikipedia articles on FTSE All-World). I keep this text here nonetheless hoping it is somewhat helpful for not just my future-me but also others. [[User:PlusMinuscule|PlusMinuscule]] ([[User talk:PlusMinuscule|talk]]) 23:58, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
::Started to upload a first version, planning to add more maps and add them to the English and German Wikipedia on FTSE All-World / FTSE GEIS and also update the wikimedia description for the file with more info. [[File:FTSE-All-World-Index-Countries-covered-as-of-2025-07-31.svg|thumb]]
::As of 2025 Pakistan doesn't seem to be part of the index anymore (removed September 2024 according to page 42 here: https://www.lseg.com/content/dam/ftse-russell/en_us/documents/ground-rules/ftse-global-equity-index-series-ground-rules.pdf ? ). [[User:PlusMinuscule|PlusMinuscule]] ([[User talk:PlusMinuscule|talk]]) 13:42, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
 
::Thanks for the input. The map template is shown on the right.
<gallery>
[[File:Msciworldmap.png|thumb|Here's the example from MSCI World]]
File:Anglospeak(800px)Countries.png|current PNG map
::But the coloured countries should be as follows:
Anglospeak.svg|replacement SVG map
{{div col|colwidth=20em}}
File:Anglophone_World.svg|New map
* Australia
</gallery>
* Austria
* Belgium
;Article(s):
* Brazil
: [[Template:English official language clickable map]]
* Canada
;Request:
* Chile
: Could the SVG map be modified to fit the template (should at least be cropped), or the template be modified to fit the SVG, so that the PNG can be replaced? Thanks -- — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 22:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
* China
;Discussion:
* Colombia
:@[[User:Kwamikagami|Kwamikagami]] {{done}} — [[User:Berrely|<span style="color:#000">'''''Berrely'''''</span>]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User talk:Berrely|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contribs/Berrely|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 17:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
* Czech Rep.
::Thanks, the cropping's good, but it still doesn't fit the template. Do we need to manually adjust the encoding for the links, or is there an easier way to address this? — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 22:59, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
* Denmark
:::{{{re|Kwamikagami}} What's the point of replacing a map that isn't meant to be expanded? Also, why modify an SVG map to fit the template and not simply add the hyperlinks to the SVG? [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 23:37, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
* Egypt
::::That's why I said "or the template be modified to fit the SVG." You guys know how these things work, not me. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 01:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
* Finland
:::::First things first. Let's start by identifying the issues with the current map and then we'll take it from there. Is there a particular reason why you want to replace the png map? I ask because the last thing we want is invest time in something that doesn't address the real problem. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 02:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
* France
:::::{{ping|Kwamikagami|Berrely}} I went ahead and created a [[User:M.Bitton/sandbox|new map]]: rather than work around the old fashioned image map, I opted for a more flexible template (one that uses an SVG map, as requested, while making it easy for the editors to change the links, the size of text, the number of columns, etc.). Please have a look and let me know what you think. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 21:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
* Germany
::::::Thanks, {{reply|M.Bitton}}. With the current template, the link to the languages of Guyana is in Peru, and that for Bermuda is in the Bahamas. It's frustrating enough to try to find links for the smaller countries that I suspect that few people use them at all.
* Greece
::::::There are quite a few additional varieties of English, but this way we can see what's still missing (e.g. Hawaiian, Pitcairn, Bermuda, Leeward Isles, etc.). Plus it looks much nicer. Even with a few missing varieties, IMO it's an improvement, so I support replacing the current template with yours. The title would no longer be accurate, though, so probably best to move it as well. Is that something you should do, or could I?
* Hong Kong
::::::The current map is used on quite a few other wikis. I haven't checked how many of the varieties they actually have articles for, or if they're mostly just links to the country articles, so I don't know how often your new map would be better than the current one they're using. WP-ar, -fa, -hy, -mzn make quite extensive use of it; a dozen other wikis in a more moderate number of articles, or not even translated. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 23:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
* Hungary
:::::::{{re|Kwamikagami}} I'm not sure what you mean by 'the title'. Unfortunately, by trying to decipher the rather small current map, I ended up missing islands (which can still be added). I'm still trying to understand what the two colours are meant to represent and wondering whether I should start afresh, maybe even turning the numbers into links. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 18:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
* Iceland
::::::::{{reply|M.Bitton}} The difference is how much English is actually spoken in the country. Dark blue means it's the majority native language. Nearly everyone will speak English quite well, unless they're immigrants, and even then their children will. Light blue generally means it's the or a language of education. People will speak it to varying degrees of competency, and a lot of people won't speak it at all, and children will generally speak something else. In India and Tanzania, for example, you're probably fine with English in the cities, but once you get to the villages, it's of limited use. In Guyana, most speak an English creole for most things, which really needs to be learned as a separate language, though it's close to English. Some cases may be borderline, but those can be debated on the talk page.
* India
::::::::By "title", I meant that "English official language clickable map" would no longer be appropriate if it's not clickable.
* Indonesia
::::::::I don't have any strong feelings on whether the numbers should be links, but if they are, they should be customizable, both for when new articles are added to WP-en and for adapting the template to other wikis. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 23:26, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
* Ireland
:::::::::I now have a clearer idea of what needs to be done. Since the islands are a bit fiddly (with some either missing or hardly visible on the base map), I think it's best not to rush it and instead finish properly it this weekend. In the meantime, if you think of anything that should be added, please let me know. Best, [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 21:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
* Israel
::::::::::Thanks, and yes, please take your time. No rush.
* Italy
::::::::::Yes, being able to see islands on a reduced-scale map can be a problem, esp. in the Caribbean where they crowd each other. But the crowding is ameliorated by "English of the Windward and Leeward Islands", which covers the smaller islands within [[Caribbean English]]. Myself, I try to add rings that are large and thick enough to be readily visible at a reduced scale (and clickable if need be) but not so much as to obscure the underlying terrain. Not always easy. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 07:32, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
* Japan
:::::::::::{{Done}} {{re|Kwamikagami}} Please have a look at the finished template (especially the links) and let me know if I missed something. With regard to the "title", you have two choices: you can either create a new template or rename (move) the current one. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 23:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
* Korea
::::::::::::{{re|M.Bitton}} That looks really nice! I like the blow-out of the Lesser Antilles and Cyprus. I notice offhand that Tuvalu's missing, but we don't have an article and it looks like the status of English may be mostly a formality. There are probably a few other things like that, that might not be worth including (e.g. the BIOT, which has no permanent population, but then neither does South Georgia, which we do list). I don't know what our criteria should be, e.g. [[Languages of the Gambia]], [[Seychelles#Languages]]. I'll ask at the language project.
* Kuwait
::::::::::::Re. the width, is there a reason for pre-setting it, or could we put it at 100% the reader's screen? I don't need to scroll much on a laptop, but I wonder if it might be a problem on a smaller screen. On the other hand, maybe it would be a problem of being too small if it were scalable. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 00:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
* Malaysia
:::::::::::::{{re|Kwamikagami}} I see no reason to exclude the Gambia and Seychelles, but I'll await and see what other regions should be added before updating the map. The width has to be pre-set unfortunately. We can make it smaller, but to be honest, for a map that does not display in the mobile view of Wikipedia (since it's displayed inside a Navbox), 1280x650 is already small by today's standards. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 16:54, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
* Mexico
::::::::::::::What is number 3? (Québec? Why a different number for this province?)
* Netherlands
::::::::::::::Other than that: 4 = Republic of Ireland, 5 = Isle of Manx, 6 = Scotland, 7 = England, 8&9 = Channel Islands, 10 = Wales => Where's Northern Ireland? [[User:A455bcd9|A455bcd9]] ([[User talk:A455bcd9|talk]]) 12:58, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
* New Zealand
* Norway
* Pakistan
* Philippines
* Poland
* Portugal
* Qatar
* Romania
* Saudi Arabia
* Singapore
* South Africa
* Spain
* Sweden
* Switzerland
* Taiwan
* Thailand
* Turkey
* UAE
* UK
* USA
{{div col end}}
:::Does anybody know of a way to get the output from this template and create from that? For some reason it's currently disabled.
{{Highlighted world map by country|AU=blue|AT=blue|BE=blue|BR=blue|CA=blue|CH=blue|CN=blue|CO=blue|CZ=blue|DK=blue|EG=blue|FI=blue|FR=blue|DE=blue|GR=blue|HK=blue|HN=blue|IC=blue|IN=blue|ID=blue|IR=blue|IS=blue|IT=blue|JP=blue|KR=blue|KW=blue|MA=blue|MX=blue|NL=blue|NZ=blue|NO=blue|PK=blue|PH=blue|PO=blue|PT=blue|QA=blue|RO=blue|SA=blue|SZ=blue|ES=blue|SW=blue|TW=blue|TH=blue|TK=blue|UA=blue|UK=blue|US=blue}}
 
== Must the text used within maps always be pure black? ==
{{ping|M.Bitton}} Got some feedback. Besides Gambia and the Seychelles, we have Vanuatu, Singapore, Hong Kong, Somaliland, Eritrea, Gibraltar, Pitcairn, Norfolk, Sint Eustatius, Sint Maarten, Saba, Christmas Island, Cocos/Keeling Islands, Cook Islands, Guam, N. Marianas, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, F.S.Micronesia, Nauru, Niue, Palau, Samoa, American Samoa, Tokelau.
 
Hello. I am currently locked in a dispute over whether the coloring of text on a map must be pure black or whether it is OK to have some color in it for purpose of giving a little bit of flavor to the appearance. I [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Maps#Must_the_text_used_within_maps_always_be_pure_black? made a post] at Wikiproject Maps and am crossposting here for purposes of getting as much input as possible. I did a search for WCAG in the archives and nothing came up, so I hope this is OK to crosspost here since the issue appears to have never been discussed before here or at WikiProject Maps. Thank you.--[[User:Jamesy0627144|Jamesy0627144]] ([[User talk:Jamesy0627144|talk]]) 06:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
In Tuvalu, English is official but not actually used. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to include it.
:There is discussion now at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps#Must the text used within maps always be pure black?]]. So people should participate there rather than here. To avoid confusion. --[[User:Timeshifter|'''Timeshifter''']] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 04:01, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 
== Chart task force/workshop ==
AFAICT, these should all be medium blue; e.g. Norfolk is 45% native-speaking English. The Dutch territories are reported to have majority English speakers, but my understanding is that that 'English' is largely Virgin Island creole, and so should be the same color as the VI's.
 
Please see the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Chart task force/workshop]]. &ndash;&#8239;[[User:Joe Roe|Joe]]&nbsp;<small>([[User talk:Joe Roe|talk]])</small> 08:07, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
50 and 51, on the other hand, should be changed to dark blue, and BIOT should be added as dark blue.
 
== UNOCHA maps and text as path ==
Also, I've lost track: where is the key to the numbers? [[User:Kwamikagami|— kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 02:47, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 
[[File:Angola_-_Location_Map_(2013)_-_AGO_-_UNOCHA.svg|thumb|right]]
:<s>As for the links, they're completely off on my browser. E.g. the link for Nigerian English is in British Columbia, British English is in Alaska, and Indian English is in Ontario. [[User:Kwamikagami|— kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 02:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)</s>
Hi! I've been slowly translating the maps in Category:Maps_by_United_Nations_Office_for_the_Coordination_of_Humanitarian_Affairs into various Saami languages and I consistently run into problems where certain parts of the map (but not all) are paths in the files and not translatable text. For example, the names of the rivers and the ocean in the displayed map of Angola are not translatable. If they exist in Portuguese, I can use those files, but then they still have the OCHA watermark on them (which should be removed?). As it seems that this is an issue throughout the category, it will not be trivial to fix, but would anyone be interested in working on this? - [[User:Yupik|Yupik]] ([[User talk:Yupik|talk]]) 12:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
:The key is at [[User:M.Bitton/sandbox]]. Also I can't see any links at all, and I'm not sure M.Bitton is gonna reply since this discussion's been moved to the archives. [[User:Erinius|Erinius]] ([[User talk:Erinius|talk]]) 08:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
::Oh, I was looking at the original template, which had overlying links.
::I think M.Bitton was talking about the blue links in the sandbox template, that they direct to the proper articles. [[User:Kwamikagami|— kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 09:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
:::I need to dig up the old setup (I hope I haven't deleted it), but in the meantime, I suggest unarchiving this discussion as we're not really supposed to be adding comments to it. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 20:46, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
::::Done. Sorry I got delayed on other things. I also just realized that there's a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject English Language]]. Should post for comment there. [[User:Kwamikagami|— kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 21:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)