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Why are we linking to [[crontab]] which is a redirect to [[cron]]? My edit to reflect this reality was reverted; does this make sense to anyone else? --[[User:Aquatiki|Aquatiki]] ([[User talk:Aquatiki|talk]]) 12:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 
: This is about Unix ''commands'', not Unix ''programs''. The command used to interact with cron is <tt>{{mono|crontab</tt>}}. Once upon a time (before I merged them), Wikipedia had two separate articles for [[cron]] and [[crontab]]. And the link should just be to [[crontab]], rather than piped, in case they're split again at some point in the future. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham]] ([[User talk:Thumperward|talk]]) 12:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 
:: I see: because we type <code>crontab</code>, and this navbox is listing "things we type." Gotcha. --[[User:Aquatiki|Aquatiki]] ([[User talk:Aquatiki|talk]]) 05:07, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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=== Requested move 20 November 2022 ===
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[[:Template:Unix commands]] → {{no redirect|Template:Single Unix Specification Commands}} – Given the numerous past discussion and disputes, and a specific criteria set up for the template requiring it to comply with the list of Shell & Utilities of the [[Single Unix Specification]] it's reasonable to rename this template to a proposed name and have a conforming title in the template itself. Any objections? <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC) <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: '''Not moved.''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Mattdaviesfsic|Mattdaviesfsic]] ([[User talk:Mattdaviesfsic|talk]]) 09:37, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
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[[:Template:Unix commands]] → {{no redirect|Template:Single Unix Specification Commandscommands}} – Given the numerous past discussion and disputes, and a specific criteria set up for the template requiring it to comply with the list of Shell & Utilities of the [[Single Unix Specification]] it's reasonable to rename this template to a proposed name and have a conforming title in the template itself. Any objections? <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC) <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC) <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;— ''Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung'', ''[[User:Mellohi!|mello]]'''''[[User talk:Mellohi!|hi!]]''' ([[Special:Contributions/Mellohi!|投稿]]) 18:44, 29 November 2022 (UTC)</small> <small>—&nbsp;'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User:GeoffreyT2000|GeoffreyT2000]] ([[User talk:GeoffreyT2000|talk]]) 20:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC)</small>
*'''Weak oppose'''. Seems like a solution looking for a problem. Either way though, the proper capitalization of the proposed name would actually be [[Template:Single UNIX Specification commands]]. [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 20:43, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
*:Noting that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Unix_commands&diff=1124550397&oldid=1124418325 this edit] happened after my comment. The originally propose title the nominator suggested was [[Template:Single Unix Specification Commands]] (capital "C" in "Commands"). [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 17:13, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
*::{{re|Steel1943}} A minor issue. I'm going to fix this when request succeed. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 11:13, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' since template names are not visible in articles and no good explanation was given for why this longer more convoluted name would help. If there are previous discussions that make this more clear, why aren't they linked? [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 04:02, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
*:{{re|Dicklyon}} See the previous discussion above. Basically every discussion on this page is about this issue. You can also read the doc of the template. In short, the template was set-up by author to a include specific Unix-spec commands but bears a general name. Renaming should fix this confusion. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 11:11, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
*::So it's already limited to the Single Unix Specification? And that's the only system entitled to use the Unix trademark? I don't see why we'd need to change the template title then. But I'll withdraw my "oppose" if I see more reasoned support. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 01:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
*:::{{re|Dicklyon}} Template names are visible in articles. There are many single unix specs and this template is set up for one specific. This is not reflected in the title. The title makes you think it's general template for all the unix commands in the universe. Read the previous discussion. If your opposition is mostly superficial you should take it down by a <s>strikethrough</s>. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:28, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
* '''Oppose''' I agree in part with the 'solution looking for a problem', but have another concern. These commands are typically not limited to the "Single UNIX Specification" or even UNIX as such, even though that is a defining parameter for inclusion. Though less informative on surface, might be useful to consider [[:Template:Universal SUS Commands]] or [[:Template:Universal SUS Programs]]; these emphasize the universality of the command set, which is one key feature of the set. --User:Ceyockey (<small>''[[User talk:Ceyockey|talk to me]]''</small>) 00:30, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
*:{{re|Ceyockey}} This is contrary to documentation of the template. It strictly prohibits any commands outside of the Single Unix spec. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
*::I'm not saying it should include commands outside the SUS, but those commands are found ''in other systems too'', meaning they are not limited to the SUS though they are defined by their presence in the SUS. --User:Ceyockey (<small>''[[User talk:Ceyockey|talk to me]]''</small>) 01:10, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
*:::The falsy title still makes people to think it's a general template. This should be fixed once and for all. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 08:06, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 
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