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== So are y'all going to rawdog it or? ==

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= March 21 =

== cite ==

Starting from around July-September 2025, [[:vi:Sáp_nhập_tỉnh,_thành_Việt_Nam_2025|a nationwide merge]] and changing of hierarchy of literally every single administrative division would be underway in [[Vietnam]]; such as shrinking the province count from 54 to 34, etc.

when using an article how to you cite it for the bibliography {{unsigned|71.51.245.227}}

:If you mean how to cite Wikipedia in your project see: [[WP:CITING]] [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 02:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Has enwiki reached a consensus regarding what it should do about the articles about administrative divisions here? There's an ongoing discussion over at vi.wiki [[:vi:Thảo_luận_Wikipedia:Dự_án/Hành_chính_Việt_Nam|here]], you guys can read them for reference [[User talk:-tynjee|tynjee]] 18:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

== Anti-Vandalism ==

:This has been briefly discussed at WikiProject Vietnam [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Vietnam#Requested_move_at_Talk:Zeuxippus#Requested_move_31_March_2025|here]]. [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 18:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm using the Voice of All script fight vandalism. But for some reason I can't rollback pages anymore. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Hmrox|Hmrox]] ([[User talk:Hmrox|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hmrox|contribs]]) 01:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:Try [[WP:TWINKLE|Twinkle]] <b><font color="#009900" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 03:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Is there a tool or process to copy images hosted on Commons to Wikipedia? ==

== College coach infobox ==

Hi all

I am currently working on updating a couple 'stubs' about some college football coaches. However, I don't know how to use and edit the 'college coach infobox'.

Some images taken in France are being discussed for deletion [[:c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with UNESCO headquarters|here]] because there is no freedom of panorama in France. I understand from [[Template:Freedom of panorama (US only)|this template]] that these images would be allowed on Wikipedia. Please could someone tell me if there's a tool or process to copy them across?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Thanks

[[User:Heismanhoosier|Heismanhoosier]] 04:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Try [[Help:Infobox]]. <b><font color="#009900" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 04:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[[User:John Cummings|John Cummings]] ([[User talk:John Cummings|talk]]) 09:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

== updating a page ==

:I [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Converting Commons image to fair use|asked the same thing on WP:VPT recently]] and was directed to https://wikifile-transfer.toolforge.org/ - however, every time I try using it, including just now, I get an "error 500" (which I have reported on its GitHub page, with no response as yet). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

The "M.C." page of your site has no definition for comedy clubs and requests "expert" advice. I am an M.C. in comedy clubs with a Masters Degree in Sociology and would like to update it, but it is heavily protected and the sites to edit it have sent me in circles. Below is my recomended definition. It is very general and would be agreed upon by most comedians:

== ANI ==

Comedy Clubs

The M.C. (often spelled emcee) of a comedy show is the host of the evening’s events, charged with a variety of responsibilities. These typically include making announcements, introducing the other comedians of the evening, and interacting with the crowd for such events as birthdays, anniversaries, and other parties.

The M.C. position is typically the first step that a comedian takes out of open mic’s, and it is known to be a tough position. The M.C. is the first comedian onstage and must ‘pick up’ a ‘cold crowd’ in order to get the audience’s energy going, and to set a humorous tone for the evening. In clubs, they often have to memorize lists of announcements concerning everything from drink specials and upcoming bands, to film and T.V. credits of the featured and headlining comedians. They are also the lowest paid comedians on the bill.

What should I do if I see a problematic user ({{np2|Ultra 348}}) who has repeated final warnings on their talk page and has been brought to ANI before (though the thread became stale) continue to not use edit summaries and other problematic behavior for which they have already been warned multiple times? Since I have never been directly involved with the user, I don't think that bringing up another ANI discussion would be appropriate, especially as I have never been there before. I'm also not sure I want to put in the effort to find all the diffs for their problematic behavior, which stretches back to 2023. If there is a better venue to bring this up, please point me in the right direction. Thanks, <span style="color: grey">it's</span> [[User:HKLionel|<span style="color: green">'''lio'''!</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">talk</span>]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/HKLionel|<span style="color: grey">work</span>]] 11:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your time - Skip Martin <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/75.183.10.165|75.183.10.165]] ([[User talk:75.183.10.165|talk]]) 04:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:The article [[M.C.]] is not protected. So, you can edit the page, now. <b><font color="#009900" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 04:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:You could notify [[User:Magnolia677]] (as I do, here), who issued the last warning on the user's talk page. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 12:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

== Question (maybe a silly one, but still...) ==

== New shortcut ==

Just asking, because this thing is starting to get on my nerves. I'm working mainly on [[Tokyo Mew Mew]]-related articles, and often have to revert vandalism in them. Among the changes I usually have to revert are the name changes - that is, using the names from fansubs and fansites instead of the names from Tokyopop's translation, like it should be. This happens regularly - some people just randomly change the names in one or several articles, some of them return later and do it again after their changes have been reverted; and some even change the names in such way that the links to the characters' articles get broken, but they don't seem to care, and don't seem to pay attention to the comments in the articles, about using Tokyopop names. The problem is that there is no template message for such kind of edits. Just... what to write on their talk pages so that they would know why the names shouldn't be changed? Is there some page where some note about using the names from English translations is written (I think I've seen something like this, but I don't remember where...)? [[User:Yume no Kishi|<font color="goldenrod">夢の騎士</font>]]^{[[User_talk:Yume no Kishi|<font color="goldenrod">Yume no Kishi - Talk</font>]]} 06:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Wikipedia:Gender}}

: What do you mean by "changing the names"? Do you mean that they modify the websites links point to? Or that they intentionally make sourced information incorrect? The first one would be met by the {{tl|spam}} series of templates, and the other one would be {{tl|verror}}. [[User:Titoxd|Tito<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]^{([[User talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[WP:FAC|cool stuff]])} 06:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

*You can transclude more than just templates. You could simply make such a template in your userspace and use it to inform these people. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I made a new shortcut for the wikiproject gender studies. Could it please be reviewed? [[User:DarknessGoth777|DarknessGoth777]] ([[User talk:DarknessGoth777|talk]]) 07:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:Seems to be a good idea. I forgot about userspace templates, I think I'll try to make one. Thank you. [[User:Yume no Kishi|<font color="goldenrod">夢の騎士</font>]]^{[[User_talk:Yume no Kishi|<font color="goldenrod">Yume no Kishi - Talk</font>]]} 11:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Shortcuts are usually reviewed relatively quickly, also there is a [[WP:NPP]] backlog drive this month. In case a reviewer sees this, I have added a link.

:I am not sure this redirect is a good idea as it seems ambiguous and the project is marked as inactive. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 07:29, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:You repurposed an existing redirect. While that may be good thing, please update the existing uses of it, which were clearly meant to point to the old target. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 11:18, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

== Godwin Ubaka Okeke has a tag for speedy deletion ==

== Lists of articles vs. articles in categories ==

Hello all,

I think that this is kinda still up in the air. When an article "List of Foo bars" connsists of list(s) where almost all listed items have there own articles, it has been mentioned it possibly should be done instead as a category, and then including each of the articles in the category. But... I don't know about all that. Can you point me in the direction of ongoing discussions or guidelines/essays, preferably with a bias towards whatever the current consensus is? (or whether or not there ''is'' a consensus :-) [[User:Shenme|Shenme]] 07:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

*There's a lot of people who prefer the one or the other, but there's no actual concensus on this. There is a page somewhere that gives you an idea what type of lists are useful (for example, you can't annotate categories). Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes]] and [[Wikipedia:Categories vs lists]] (the last one is a somewhat POV essay, so it should be taken with a grain of salt). - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I created the article Godwin Ubaka Okeke and It was recently marked for speedy deletion. My question here is... can I rewrite the article or will that cause my harm. [[user:Akwugo|Akwugo]] ([[user talk: Akwugo|talk]]) 11:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

== Promotional image copyright ==

:@[[User:Akwugo|Akwugo]] According to the discussion on your talk page, the issue is the copyright of the text you copied into your draft. I suggest you continue to discuss the issue on your talk page unless more general questions arise. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 12:22, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

I wanted to write an article about a guitar, specifically Epiphone's Sheraton and Sheraton II models which would include an infobox. The best pictures I could find were on Epiphone's website. These images are on the website for promotional purposes. None of the tags in the dropbox were suitable for any such image. Are promotional images found on official websites fair use?

[[User:Ufossuck|ufossuck]] 09:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Sadly, no. [[WP:FUC#1|Wikipedia fair use criteria]] prohibit fair use claims of photographs that could be recreated under a free-license. That is, copyrighted promotional stills of the guitar are a no-go. If you were to create a free-license alternative by, say, taking a picture of the same guitar at some store, then that would be acceptable. ˉˉ^{[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]}[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 09:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Speaking of which, there's a perfectly good free-license alternative right [http://www.flickr.com/photos/amishsteve/79147367/ here]. ˉˉ^{[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]}[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 09:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC) (now at commons: [[:Image:Epiphone Sheraton II.jpg]] ˉˉ^{[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]}[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 09:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Would any pictures taken by random people of guitars, their's or otherwise, which they posted on the internet be fair use? And finally would pictures used on online stores, such as musiciansfriend be fair use?

:Yes, unless the photographer explicitly releases his/her work under a [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Free licenses|free license]] or there is verification that the photo is in the [[public ___domain]]. Almost all photographs found on random internet websites and online stores are not released under a free-license - they are copyrighted and replaceable. ˉˉ^{[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]}[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 10:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::To clarify: Yes, you'd have to claim fair use on them; No, you can't do that on Wikipedia because of [[WP:FUC]]. ˉˉ^{[[User:Anetode|'''anetode''']]}[[User_talk:Anetode|╦╩]] 10:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

*[[Fair use]] is a clause in US copyright law that allows very restricted use of copyrighted material in certain cases. Whether something is posted on the internet has no bearing on its copyright status. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 10:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Category help ==

::There's a common misunderstanding that fair use is a kind of photograph or kind of copyright. It isn't: it's a way of doing things that would ''otherwise'' be a breach of copyright. For example, a reviewer of a book can quote a small section of the book for the purposes of a review. That doesn't make that quote into fair use so anyone else could put it on their web site, for example; it applies in just that case.

::In the same way, a fair use photo in Wikipedia is a photo for which a ''specific reason'' has been described in detail, why this use is fair, despite being (otherwise) copyright theft. Great care is needed, and Wikipedia tries to avoid fair use photos whenever necessary: generally using them only when the illustration is necessary ''and'' could not be got another way.

::Often an editor is so concerned to get a photo that they bend the rules, but this is not good for the encyclopedia. Wikipedia's fair use rules have been rather loosely enforced, but the signs are that we will in the end lose almost all our fair use celebrity photos, movie stills, CD and book covers etc.

::It's also worth noting that almost ''everything'' gets automatic copyright, so photos you find on the web ''will'' almost certainly be copyright, whether they say so or not. [[User:Notinasnaid|Notinasnaid]] 10:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Might be an obvious answer, but is there any sort of category for works about [[Asian Australians]]? [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 05:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:I would suggest finding the guitars in somebody's possession or in a store, and taking photos yourself. That's the easiest solution. Then you can release them for Wikipedia use. [[User:Corvus cornix|Corvus cornix]] 21:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Not according to [[:Category:Works by nationality]], but I'm also not readily seeing that any of the categories listed there combine multiple nationalities, which doesn't even account for the fact that "Asian" isn't a nationality. I think I'd have to advise against creating such a category, though you might ask at [[WT:CAT]]. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 06:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== problem about fales mail ==

:For naturalised or other migrants, see categories like [[:Category:Chinese emigrants to Australia]]; for anyone else, categories like [[:Category:Australian people of Chinese descent]]. Note also [[:Category:Australian people of Asian descent]] and its regional subcategories, if the country of origin is not known precisely. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

::To clarify, I'm looking for a category for media works (books, films, etc) about Australian people of Asian descent. I'll probably ask at [[WT:CAT]] then. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:49, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

== New portal ==

sir i am getting fales mail regarding that you have give us the prize near about 20000000 <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/59.95.172.103|59.95.172.103]] ([[User talk:59.95.172.103|talk]]) 10:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:Thank you for your message. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? [[User:Notinasnaid|Notinasnaid]] 11:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:See [[Advance fee fraud]], [[:Category:Confidence tricks]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How can i make new portal? [[User:Whatback11|Whatback11]] ([[User talk:Whatback11|talk]]) 09:13, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== Help! ==

:Which new portal do you want to create? <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 10:44, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I have come across a new user named [[User talk:Frenchhog|Frenchhog]]. He/she had blanked his/her talk page, which had warnings on it. I reverted his/her talk page, and warned him not to do it unless he (or she) clearing up vandalism. Frenchhog blanked it again, and I reverted it and gave him another warning. Then he/she edited my warning to make me say I'm gay. I reverted that, and now he/she has created an attack page on me. Was I doing the right thing? Please help! --[[User:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:#32CD32">LuigiManiac</span>]] | [[User Talk:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]] 13:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::I want to make [[Draft:Portal:Politics of South Korea]]. [[User:Whatback11|Whatback11]] ([[User talk:Whatback11|talk]]) 11:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== Arrow symbol mystery ==

No need to worry about the attack page thing anymore. It has been deleted. Still, was I doing the right thing before? Should I have backed off and let him vandalize? --[[User:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:#32CD32">LuigiManiac</span>]] | [[User Talk:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]] 16:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:It sounds like you're on solid ground in this case, but I would check [[WP:TALK]] and related pages for talk page policy (which, I guess would be more applicable than vandalism policy in this instance) [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 19:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::I have found a little bit of info under [[Wikipedia:Vandalism#Types_of_vandalism|Types of vandalism]], which may help. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 19:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Actually, it was decided that removing warnings from one's own talk page is not vandalism. However, there are discussions quite often as to whether or not we should change this. <font color="maroon">[[User:Mr.Z-man|Mr.Z-man]]</font>'''<small>[[User talk:Mr.Z-man|talk]]</small>''<font color="navy" face="cursive">[[Special:Contributions/Mr.Z-man|¢]]</font>'''''<small>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Mr.Z-man|Review!]]</small> 19:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Could someone tell me what the arrow symbol below at the right means when Wikipedia places it at the beginning of a line in an article we're editing? I've seen it several times off and on now, and although I seem to be able to delete it I'd like to know why it comes.

::::Thank you. I guess I will make sure to say sorry to him/her if he/she ever becomes active again for starting this mess. That is kind of surprising that it isn't considered vandalism to blank pages. I personally would keep any warnings on my user talk page, unless it was placed there wrongfully. Ah well, I know now so next time hopefully I can avoid getting into another mess. Thanks again! --[[User:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:#32CD32">LuigiManiac</span>]] | [[User Talk:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]] 19:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[[File:Downward-leftward arrow symbol.png|thumb|45x45px]]

[[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 10:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== Redirecting ==

:Hi [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] - I've never seen it in one of our articles, are you using the mobile or desktop version? - I assume it is a carriage return (enter) symbol, that has been copy-pasted in from another application. We used to get lots of obj in a dotted rectangles, from a similar problem. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 10:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

::As far as I recall, @[[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]], it’s come just on my computer. Can’t swear to that, though.

::I too thought of a carriage return — even though laptops no longer have carriages! — but considering each case, I couldn’t imagine why the symbol would be placed there.

::If you’ve never seen the symbol, then it would seem it came because of my computer, or even my browser. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 11:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Hi [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]], if you go back in one of the affected pages' history, and re-open the version you saw it on, is it still there? If so, you could try opening it on another device, which would determine if it is your computer/browser. If it is "reproducible" then you could ask at [[WP:VPT]], where the "techs" hang out. - Best wishes - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 12:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Arjayay, I went back as you suggested and checked a lot of earlier versions of the article in which I think I saw one of those symbols most recently — but no luck. I remember that I often deleted the symbol when I'd see it, though.

::::I’ll keep a lookout to see if it will pop up again soon so I can bring it for your inspection. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 13:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::In one of my sandboxes today, that mysterious arrow I mentioned that sometimes appears to the left of a sentence beginning a new paragraph popped up several times on my work. Whenever I saw one, I copied it along with a line of text to show you here ... but then when I tried to paste it, the arrow disappeared.

:::::I might mention that the arrow often disappears on its own from the original on my computer even without me deleting it.

:::::Maybe the issue really does have something to do with my computer, as I haven't seen the arrow in text on on my phone. On the other hand, I hardly ever use my phone for Wiki editing. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 11:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

{{outdent|::::::}}{{Ping|Augnablik}} I might know what you are encountering. Are you using the [[wp:visual|visual editor]]? If so, these arrows (carriage returns) indicate single line breaks. Double line breaks create a new paragraph, but single line breaks may be used variously to break up the appearance of the text in the source/code editor and are common after the end of inline references/footnotes. Since you can't see them otherwise in the visual editor, they appear as this arrow. The following text would produce one of these arrows after the <nowiki></ref></nowiki>: <syntaxhighlight lang=wikitext>Some people format their references with a lot of line breaks to make them easier to parse.<ref>{{Cite book

|first=John

|last=Doe

|date=2024

|title=Elements of Style

}}</ref>

The next sentence will appear to follow the one before the footnote to a reader, even though there are line breaks in the code.</syntaxhighlight> -- [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#4E8321">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span class="skin-invert" style="color:#073131">rabbit</span>]] 14:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, @[[User:Reconrabbit|Reconrabbit]], I use the VE. Now you’ve confirmed what @[[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] also thought the arrow meant. I do wonder why it happens sometimes but not others, though, because I always press Return (Enter) once to start a new paragraph.

How do I make something redirect? [[User:Replay7|Replay7]] 14:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:I thought my question might end up unsolved like another one I’ve had a long time, more frustrating because it involves a cursor jumping up to the line above and to the left on my computer when I’m trying to type a capital letter or certain kinds of punctuation … only when I’m in Wikipedia and while I’m typing messages. No one at the Village Pump seems to know what that’s all about! [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 15:53, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Foo]]</nowiki> will redirect to the article [[Foo]]. I recommend adding a [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages|redirect template]] immediately after that (on the same line). − [[User:Twas Now|'''Twas ''Now''''']] <small>( [[User talk:Twas Now|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twas Now|contribs]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Twas Now|e-mail]] )</small> 15:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::I can only guess as to the source of your second problem. Maybe when you press the shift key, something interprets this as pressing the arrow keys or the "Home"/"Page Up" keys. -- [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#4E8321">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span class="skin-invert" style="color:#073131">rabbit</span>]] 16:26, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:::But, then, why only when I’m in Wikipedia … and writing messages … [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

== Archiving at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion]] ==

== How to code this... ==

The bot is dumping everything into archive 1, which is fairly massive by now. Anyone up to fixing this, and perhaps "spread it out" properly? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 06:14, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

I need [[User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js|this]] in a drop down menu like [[User:Haza-w/cactions.js|this]]. I've tried but cannot get it to work for me. --<font face="Westminster"><font size="3%">[[User:Darkest Hour/Directory|<font color= "darkblue"> Darkest&nbsp;Hour</font>]]</font></font> 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:The archiving instructions were [[Special:Diff/769305713|accidentally reset]] in 2017. I'll move the 2016-2017 material from archive 1 into a new archive 13 and tell the bot to start archive 14. Archive 13 will be about 200K, which I don't think is too large for an archive page. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 07:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 07:17, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

== Request for Flexibility in Guidelines-First E-Political Party in the World (VSJP) ==

== How do I a redirect for an organization's acronym? ==

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

I want to do a redirect for an organizations acronym which they are more known by so it redirects automatically to the full Wiki entry for it. How do I do this? Thanks. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Awb9h|Awb9h]] ([[User talk:Awb9h|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Awb9h|contribs]]) 16:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:Create the page normally, but on it all you have to put is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[OrgName]]</nowiki> (with Orgname being the actual article name) --[[User:Maelwys|Maelwys]] 16:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I am submitting this message as the founder of the *Vishwa Shanti Janata Party (VSJP)*, which is the **world’s first fully digital political party**, founded on April 2, 2025. We are officially active across global digital platforms including YouTube, Facebook, X (Twitter), Instagram, Threads, and Google Sites.

== Back to Top anchor link at the bottom of this page ==

Our political activities are carried out entirely through the internet, making us a precedent in digital democracy. As such, our existence represents a shift in political structure aligned with modern technology and accessibility.

<s>It seems to have gone, but it is very useful. Can it/will it come back?</s> [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 16:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

: Scratch that question - it has come back after my edit. Weird. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 16:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::What Back to Top link? There isn't one on my screen. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|^(talk)]] 17:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Nevermind, I suddenly have one now... I swear it wasn't there a minute ago. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|^(talk)]] 17:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::::And now it's gone again... Someone must be working on it. <span style="font-family:monospace;">[[User:Dismas|Dismas]]</span>|[[User talk:Dismas|^(talk)]] 17:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Well, at least it's not just me going crazy! [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 17:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== How to code this... ==

However, due to Wikipedia’s current guidelines, we find difficulty in meeting notability criteria through traditional media references. We respectfully request that Wikipedia acknowledges this **global digital transformation** and consider updating editorial inclusion for new-age political movements like VSJP.

I need [[User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js|this]] in a drop down menu like [[User:Haza-w/cactions.js|this]]. I've tried but cannot get it to work for me. --<font face="Westminster"><font size="3%">[[User:Darkest Hour/Directory|<font color= "darkblue"> Darkest&nbsp;Hour</font>]]</font></font> 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

All documents are publicly available and have been submitted to:

:You need css for dropdown menus. I have some in my monobook if you want to look. (userfunctions). [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]} 20:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

* UNESCO

* WIPO

* UN OHCHR

* Election Commission of India

We kindly ask for editorial review support or alternative recognition guidance.

Thank you for your time and understanding.

== Help Search ==

-- Aaryan Narasimhan Radhakrishnan Founder & International Leader – Vishwa Shanti Janata Party

How do I search for help? [[User:Polly Math|Renaissance Man]] 17:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Chief Ambassador of World Peace | Digital Father of the World Website: https://www.vsjp.org [[User:Aaryan Narasimhan R|Aaryan Narasimhan R]] ([[User talk:Aaryan Narasimhan R|talk]]) 08:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

*Well if you want help, you're in the right place. Ask your question here. —'''[[User:Dark Shikari|<font color="#0000bb">Da<font color="#000066">rk<font color="#000022">•S</font>hik</font>ari</font>]]'''^{[[User talk:Dark Shikari|[T]]]} 17:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:[[Wikipedia:Searching]] - [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 17:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::[[User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia]] has links to articles that answer most questions a new user might have, although a new user might not know which article answers his or her question. You can [http://www.google.com/custom?domains=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk&sitesearch=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk search the Help desk archives] and find quite a lot that way. Most questions a new user tends to ask have have been asked by new users before, although not always with the exact same wording, of course. Nonetheless, you can find a lot in the Help desk archives just by typing questions in the Google search form (with the usual techniques to expand the search when necessary, such as by removing some search words, not using quotes, and trying synonyms). Read the instructions at the top of this page for more ways to search for help. If you get stuck, ask for [[human]] help here. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] 18:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|Aaryan Narasimhan R}}. From the point of view of Wikipedia, we do not care what you and your political party says about itself. We care only about what reliable published sources ''entirely independent'' of your political party say about it. There are no special carve-outs for organizations that operate only digitally. Your party must meet [[Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)]] to be eligible for a Wikipedia article. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

== Help I have "This article or section does not adequately cite its references or sources." on my page ==

== May someone who knows Chinese railways please help me with my new article? ==

So I need a little help. I have a Wikipedia page for a TV show on Directv that I love called The Fizz. I have found 8 or 10 articles about the show, from Varity, to news papers. What I don't know is how to cite the references. I'm not sure if i should quote the sites or list the links at the end of the page? Please help me,

I [[WP:COPYWITHIN]]ed and spiced things up a bit to create a [[Classic rail in China]] article. May someone please help me expand it? Thanks! [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 08:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Greg <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Love4musicandgames|Love4musicandgames]] ([[User talk:Love4musicandgames|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Love4musicandgames|contribs]]) 17:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:[[WP:REF]], or look at other pages that use proper refs. The footnote style is preferred, in which you would have - for an example - the page title with a hyperlink, then the name of the website, the publish date if available, and then the retrieval date. Basically, follow the templates with as many fields as you have, but you do not need to use the templates (it is much quicker and easier without them). [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 18:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

*There's also [[Wikipedia:Citation templates]], but the main thing to do would be providing the sources. If you get that template, it usually means there aren't any or they lack the detail needed for someone else to track them down. Please check the page I mentioned and see the sort of info you need to take down about a source. The most important thing is that you provide it, if you're uncomfortable with templates, someone else can do the formatting for you. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 19:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

**At the very least, give the links with a slight description of what they are in a "references" or "sources" section at the end of the article. <font color="maroon">[[User:Mr.Z-man|Mr.Z-man]]</font>'''<small>[[User talk:Mr.Z-man|talk]]</small>''<font color="navy" face="cursive">[[Special:Contributions/Mr.Z-man|¢]]</font>'''''<small>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Mr.Z-man|Review!]]</small> 19:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is a place to get help with technical and practical matters around editing. For subject-related assistance, try the relevant Wikiproject, in this case at [[WT:WikiProject Trains]] and/or [[WT:WikiProject China]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 18:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

== Why Wikipedia is very frustrating to use. ==

== Formatting in semi-protected edit requests ==

If a person wants to help and then edit, someone writes over it and then all the work you put into is changed without your input. So do free work and get nothing from it, and no say so.[[User:75.82.243.165|75.82.243.165]] 20:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

A new editor has made a couple of attempts to lodge a semi-protected edit request (most recently [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Robert_Burns&diff=prev&oldid=1289122408 here]) but it corrupts the display of the talk page in question, blanking a large section and failing to display their own post. I suspect it is connected with their inclusion of refs in the request and it won't corrupt and will display if these are removed. Is there a way for them to make the request with refs included or should they simply be omitted? [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 11:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:You shouldn't be bothered because, well, if it improves an encyclopedia then improvement is always better. Also, any edits you make to a page do not make that page your [[WP:OWN|own]]. <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt;">[[User:x42bn6|<span style="font-weight: bold;">x42bn6</span>]] [[User_talk:x42bn6|Talk]]</span> 20:52, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::If a contributor's edits are genuinely good quality, constructive, and per guidelines, then they are almost certain to stay. If another contributor thinks that an edit is not suitable for whatever some reason - maybe it does not maintain the current style/language, or it is questionable and not verified, for example - then they may well remove it or modify it. That's how it goes. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 21:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::According to [[WP:WIF#Maintenance of standards]], there are (or were at the time of writing) ''340 [[Wikipedia:former featured articles|former featured articles]], so that more than 20% of all articles that have ever been featured are no longer featured.'' Unless the standards for featured articles have risen, the presence of former featured articles suggests that those post-FA edits were not as good as the earlier edits, and the good quality of those earlier edits did ''not'' insure their survival.

:::This is not a criticism of Wikipedia; obviously, Wikipedia does a lot of things right, because millions of people use it every day (in particular, I routinely use the [[software]] and [[computing]] articles as valuable references in my job, and when I see a way to improve one, I do). I'm just pointing out to [[User:75.82.243.165|75.82.243.165]] that not only does it take a lot of hard work to do the right things on Wikipedia, but even if you manage to do all the right things, your work may still get clobbered by other editors whose work is less good. Wikipedia has lots of articles edited by lots of people. Different parts of Wikipedia may be at different levels of compliance with Wikipedia policies. Some topics are more controversial than others. Maybe in some topic areas, "constructive" edits are not necessarily the most popular.

:::A word of advice to [[User:75.82.243.165|75.82.243.165]]: when you express a non-specific complaint, responses tend to be equally non-specific, and may not apply to your specific situation. While it is true that ''in general,'' Wikipedia tends to improve as more people edit it, the improvement is not necessarily [[monotone increasing]] nor uniform everywhere. [[Special:Contributions/75.82.243.165]] does not show the edits you [[allusion|allude]] to; perhaps you edited under another [[IP address]]. If you tell us the article(s) in question and show us the [[Help:Diff|diffs]], experienced editors can review the edits, determine whether the following editors should have done what they did, and either explain the likely reasons or tell you how to find out.

:::Depending on which parts of Wikipedia one edits, and what one does, Wikipedia might be a rewarding experience, or a nightmare. Because of Wikipedia's remarkably high profile, it is, for many people, the first [[wiki]] they try editing on; Wikipedia may be the first wiki they become aware of. However, Wikipedia does not attempt to be everything for everyone. It is actually a very specialized wiki with policies that probably only a tiny minority of people could really be happy with. Who do we know in real life who maintains anything resembling a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]? That is not a natural way to think, it's an acquired skill, and it takes time and effort to acquire. If everyone habitually maintained NPOV, as in actually thinking that way, society would be completely different. For example, [[politics]] and [[religion]] as we currently know them are typically about as far from NPOV as anything can be.

:::So, once again I trot out my advice for disgruntled Wikipedia editors: [[List of wikis|try some other wikis]] in addition to Wikipedia. Lots of wikis specialize in particular types of subject matter (games, sports, music, politics, causes, etc.), cater to particular points of view, don't mind original work, and so on. Several wikis originated in response to Wikipedia rejecting classes of content (such as videogame walkthroughs). A person with [[cognitive bias]]es (which is to say, a ''normal'' person) will probably find it more enjoyable to edit on a wiki run by people with similar cognitive biases.

:::Of course I still recommend editing on Wikipedia to anyone; it's a great intellectual exercise. But a certain scaling down of expectations is necessary here. Wikipedia is a zoo. (Picture what would happen if true believers in all the different religions were forced to worship together in one big room, rather than isolated from each other in their respective [[church]]es, [[temple]]s, and [[mosque]]s: "diversity + proximity = war".) The fact that anyone can edit almost anything means almost anything can happen. Don't view your edits as an achievement, but as an experiment. You're not editing so much to create something with lasting value, as to see how other people react to what you write. You are painting on a [[graffiti]] wall. Your masterpiece might end up buried under 50 layers of other people's paint. Wait long enough, and that's almost guaranteed to happen. If Wikipedia should last 100 years, how much of today's content would survive that long unchanged? --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] 17:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:@[[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] Posts on talk pages can certainly include references. If done with <code><nowiki><ref> </ref></nowiki></code> tags, then the addition of a {{T|talkref}} template (not indented) at the foot of the section will format things correctly. It would help the other editor if you could restore their edit with that template included. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 12:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

::There was a non-balanced tag in a section from over 5 years ago. I fixed it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Robert_Burns&diff=prev&oldid=1289256327] [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|talk]]) 13:04, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks all. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 13:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

==[[Prior's Field School]]==

Please fix up ref number 2 - it is not quite right. thank you [[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] ([[User talk:Srbernadette|talk]]) 23:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Srbernadette}} You had the year of the access date as "20333". You've made this sort of simple error before and ask us to fix it. I'm wondering, do you use the preview button? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

==Maps==

Dear Sir,

==[[Christopher Bullock (civil servant)]]==

I would like a map of two Cities or Villages which ever term for the ___location would be proper and they are: Szynwald in the Woj. of Krakow but was in the Woj. of Tarnow and a map of Zdzary in the woj.Zamosc but once was the woj of Tarnow. Any questions, please ask and I will answer.

Ref number 44 and 45 were obtained from JOURNALS and I think I got it all wrong. They are not a "simple errors". Please leave in quotes in both. I will endeavour to use the preview button. Please fix and thank you. [[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] ([[User talk:Srbernadette|talk]]) 00:13, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:They are both ridiculously simple errors. You used {{tl|cite journal}} but did not include a {{para|journal}} field. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|talk]]) 03:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

==[[Christopher Bullock (civil servant)]]==

Thank You

For refs number 44 and 45 - I have TRIED to put in "=journal" as suggested, but no good. Please fix up . So sorry. [[User:Srbernadette|Srbernadette]] ([[User talk:Srbernadette|talk]]) 04:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Jerome Kowalski <e-mail address removed>

:You would be better off asking this at [[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities]], as the Help Desk is for Wikipedia-related questions only. -- [[User:Chairman S.|Chairman S.]] <span style="font-size:75%"><font color="#E32636">[[User talk:Chairman S.|Talk]]</font> <font color="#177245">^{[[Special:Contributions/Chairman_S.|Contribs]]}</font></span> 21:41, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Corrected wikilink for you. <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt;">[[User:x42bn6|<span style="font-weight: bold;">x42bn6</span>]] [[User_talk:x42bn6|Talk]]</span> 21:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:See: [[User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Map]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] 17:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Which cite template or formate to use ==

If I want to make a footnote to reference the following link, which 'cite' template should I use? or what format should I put it in?

[[Image:DEA_Marijuana_May_2006.pdf]]

Thanks,

[[User:ChristopherMannMcKay|ChristopherMannMcKay]] 21:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

: I prefer not to use templates, but simply structure my refs according to the relevant (or most relevant) template. Off the top of my head, I would suggest following the journal template as a guide, but your information will be dictated by what you have available (for example, a website ref will often lack a publish date). [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 21:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:: Revise that slightly: I did not notice that your ref is actually an image - I assumed from the suffix that it was a PDF document. I'm not sure that you would even use an image as a ref, though I guess it would depend on the context. How/why do you want to refer to it? [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 21:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

*It's not an image, It is PDF, but it won't show entirely unless you click the link. You should refer to the PDF on its original ___location. Never upload source documents to Wikipedia. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::So, the file (which I didn't upload) says it is from the DEA web site, so should I just make a cite tag and list the publisher as the DEA? Thanks -[[User:ChristopherMannMcKay|ChristopherMannMcKay]] 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Something strange ==

There something weird about the [[Wilhelm Volk]] article. It includes info about another person, but when I go to edit it, it doesn't show the second biography. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 21:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:You're right! How weird is that?? I have no idea how or why that has happened. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 21:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Vandalism at [[Template:Nonfiction-writer-stub]]: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Nonfiction-writer-stub&diff=prev&oldid=116827286] Nasty vandalism. Reverted, by the way. And purged template to force refresh over all articles. <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt;">[[User:x42bn6|<span style="font-weight: bold;">x42bn6</span>]] [[User_talk:x42bn6|Talk]]</span> 21:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I just came to the same conclusion. I removed the stub notice and previewed it on a hunch, and it fixed it. I have left the stub notice in place though, just in case it screws up someone else's stub sorting. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 21:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::::What about Oliver August? He seems to be a notable person who doesn't have an entry. Should someone add the article? [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 21:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::Why not? If he's worthy of inclusion, go for it! [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 22:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::Just don't stick it in the template. <span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 8pt;">[[User:x42bn6|<span style="font-weight: bold;">x42bn6</span>]] [[User_talk:x42bn6|Talk]]</span> 22:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Done. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 22:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

== Posting in Wikipedia ==

I need help. I am not stupid but I have dyslexia and I have trouble understanding some collections of information - even if they are simply presented. I want to post articles. I do not want anyone else altering my articles directly. Some will be copyrighted. I DO, however, want errors to be pointed out publically, near to my articles, so I can correct what I write or dispute the critism. I mean text errors such as spelling errors, errors of clarity, fact and so on. Is this possible?

I am a psychotherapist, natural therapist and teacher. My subjects of principal interest are Natural Childbirth (my PhD research topic - completed, I graduate at SCU Australia in September '07), trauma management, especially suicide prevention and berievement, often among marginalised prople and those close to them. I want to include links and references and, when possible, to incourage constructive comment and discussion.

Your help and advice would be appreciated.

Leigh Dick-Read <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:LeighOx|LeighOx]] ([[User talk:LeighOx|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LeighOx|contribs]]) 23:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:Hi, this may not be a complete answer, but - any article you post in Wikipedia will, in fact, be altered by others, this is the way that Wikipedia works. You can expect your article posted here to be entirely rewritten by others over time. Perhaps another website would be more appropriate for you, there must be other places where you can get your writing evaluated by others without them changing it. Maybe someone else here can think of some. --[[User:Xyzzyplugh|Xyzzyplugh]] 23:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Also, Wikipedia will '''not''' accept copyright material, sorry. I hope you do find a more suitable place. [[User:Notinasnaid|Notinasnaid]] 23:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::We do accept copyrighted material as long as the owner is willing to release it under a free license which this person clearly isn't. You could try [[Citizendium]]. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

==AfD debate categories==

When nominating an article for AfD, one is supposed to choose which category to put the deletion discussion page in. There is a list of possible categories, which are Media and music, Organisation corporation or product, Biographical, Society topics, Web or internet, Games or sports, Science and technology, Fiction and the arts, and Places and transportation. I can't find a single page anywhere on Wikipedia which explains further what should go in each category, there's nothing but a name for them. Is there such a page anywhere? Half the time I AfD something, I have no idea which category to put it in. --[[User:Xyzzyplugh|Xyzzyplugh]] 23:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:Go [[Template:Afd3_starter|here]]. <b><font color="red" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 23:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

::Well yes, that's where I got the list of category names from, that is linked to from the main AfD page. That page gives no explanation of what belongs in each AfD deletion category. --[[User:Xyzzyplugh|Xyzzyplugh]] 23:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

:::I would like to know the same thing, as this is an issue in other instances when an article does not really fit in existing categories. There seems to be no descriptive advice regarding categorisation for AfD, GA, etc. [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 16:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

= March 22 =

== Moving article to more appropriate category ==

'''Kept for other's reference'''

How do I move an article I recently created to a more appropriate category?

The article is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Packer

I think it would fit better in this category:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Agricultural_magazines

That category is where it would be more relevant.

Thanks.

[[User:Clarence Rutherford|Clarence Rutherford]] 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you clik "Edit this page", at the bottom there is written something like <nowiki>[[Category:Example]]</nowiki>. You change the category name, and the article is recategorised. [[User_talk:Evilclown93 | The Evil Clown]] _{<small>[[Wikipedia:Editor_review/Evilclown93|Please review me!]]</small>} 00:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Figured out answer. Thanks anyway.

[[User:Clarence Rutherford|Clarence Rutherford]] 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

==Inserting images==

I can't for the life of me figure out how to insert a picture can you please help? Also, is there a way to have active links to my web sites without those little arrows that appear currently.

Thanks so much for your help!!!

Jim Paymar {{unsigned|Jepay|11:48, 22 March 2007}}

:See [[Help:Images]] for information. In reply to your second question, no, you cannot have external links without the little arrows. -- [[User:Chairman S.|Chairman S.]] <span style="font-size:75%"><font color="#E32636">[[User talk:Chairman S.|Talk]]</font> <font color="#177245">^{[[Special:Contributions/Chairman_S.|Contribs]]}</font></span> 02:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:It might also be worth reading [[Wikipedia:External links]]. While you can add external links to a Wikipedia article, you must not add links to your own site at all! [[User:Notinasnaid|Notinasnaid]] 10:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

==Userpage==

helpme to set up my userpage - please direct me to an example of a well-written one...

tx,

RS {{unsigned|Rstrawn|11:48, 22 March 2007}}

:You can find a lot of help at [[Wikipedia:Userpages]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help]]. -- [[User:Chairman S.|Chairman S.]] <span style="font-size:75%"><font color="#E32636">[[User talk:Chairman S.|Talk]]</font> <font color="#177245">^{[[Special:Contributions/Chairman_S.|Contribs]]}</font></span> 02:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

*Days before it got axed, I received the Esperanza Userpage Award, so my userpage might be worth taking a look at. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you need any more help place {{tl|helpme}} on your userpage. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 16:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

==Compound Interest==

Hi.

My Name is Zaheer.

How can i find the Interest Rate in the Compound Interest Formula.

E.g:

Find the simple interest on 2 years and 3 months loan of Rs.100,000 which has an annual interest rate of 12%?

:Although this is not categorized here, you can find more information [[Compound_interest#Simple_Formulas|here]]. <b><font color="#CD2682" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 05:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Help me create a template ==

Hi, I've been editing here for a long time, but I have no idea how to create a template. Frankly, I don't understand why the relevant project page doesn't explain it for dummies like me. What I want to do is the following. Most articles that contain chess notation have a clunky note in parentheses, somewhere in the article, "(see [[algebraic chess notation]]." I thought it would be better to replace or augment those with a simple template at the top of the article that says:

:''This article uses [[algebraic chess notation]].''

That's as technically unsophisticated as it gets. Can someone explain to me how to write the code? [[User:YechielMan|YechielMan]] 05:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Ooh, check [[Help:Templates|the template page]]. <b><font color="#CD2682" face="georgia">[[User:Real96|Real96]]</font></b> 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::If you want to write a template that adds the same text every time (like you do), go to the page <nowiki>[[Template:</nowiki>''name of template'']] and type the text that you want to add there, and it should work. --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 09:43, 22 March 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

== Is there a way to sort the page alphabetically or by some other factor such as population ==

I'm specifically talking about this article: [[List of languages of Nigeria]]

It would be nice to be able to sort languages alphabetically or by population.

Is there a way to do that without creating another page and another list ? Of course I understand that the population data must be added to the list.

For example Yoruba is a very popular language in Nigeria, used by about 20 million people, but appears at the end of the alphabetical list.--[[User:Mike Sorensen|Mike Sorensen]] 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Yes there is [[Help:Sorting]].--[[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] 05:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you, very cool.--[[User:Mike Sorensen|Mike Sorensen]] 07:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Walker, Texas Ranger, General Information about the Actor ==

While I am not in any way, shape, or form a professional when it comes to Karate (I hold no belt except for the one that holds up my pants), when you say that Walker ends a fight with a roundhouse kick I believe that the correct definition is a backward roundhouse kick. I could be wrong about this and am not attempting to be smart or dogmatic, but would simply like you to check it out with someone who is a Black Belt in one of the forms of Karate that he uses and see if I am not right in this matter?

I believe that these sort of things are very important when you are writing a encyclopedia and therefore highly suggest that you check into this right away and after researching the issue, if it is warranted, make the change if it is deemed a more accurate call.

Writing an Encyclopedia is a huge and unbelievably difficult task and I salute you in your efforts toward this end. While I certainly respect you in this process, I know that I certainly would not attempt such a task myself. But I do wish you only the best in your efforts towards this very public medium with everything expected to be letter perfect afterwards. Thank you and continue the good work[[User:172.191.78.202|172.191.78.202]] 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Michael G. Murphy.

== adding canals ==

I want to place a train track over a canal do you know the code for this. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Ucebaggie|Ucebaggie]] ([[User talk:Ucebaggie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ucebaggie|contribs]]) 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

*If you're a professional train track builder, you should know this, if you're not, I'm guessing this is related to a game, but without more information I don't know which one you're referring too. Either way, this question should go to the [[WP:RD|reference desk]]. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 10:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

==Requesting an article==

Is there anyway that you could have someone else write an article that you want? Such as "National" Goof Off Day which is March 22

:See [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]]. --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 11:54, 22 March 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

==Information Request==

Hi

I have noticed that my name are apearing several times on Wikipedia i therefor recomend you to incooporate the following:

Stefan G. Rasmussen

Born 23rd of July 1947 in Randers, Denmark

Trained as pilot in Danish Air force, Graduated from Williams Air Force Base, Arizona 8th of September 1973 class 74-01. Employed I SAS September 1979. On December 27, 1991, he was the Captain of SAS flight 751, a MD-81, OY-KHO who crashlanded at Gottröra, Sweden. In the initial climb both engines ingested ice breaking loose from the wings, which had not been properly deiced before departure. Both engines destroyed, leaving the aircraft with no propulsion. The aircraft landed in a field and broke in three parts. No fire broke out and all aboard the plane survived. Captain Stefan G. Rasmussen was later decorated by the Danish Queen for his outstanding and professional performance. Beside of that Stefan G. Rasmussen has received several recognitions like: IATA Polaris Award, IAPA Outstanding Service Award, Aviation Week & Space Tecnologi Laurals Award and Hall of Fame recognition, The Golden Medal from the Swedish King.

Stefan G. Rasmussen was a member of The Danish Parliament from 1994 – 96 but had to stop due to a strong suffers from a Tinnitus he got after the SAS flight 751 incident. Today he is a sough lecturer, and author.

== Repeat of old question ==

A while back, I asked a question related to this and started a [[Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_March_16#Who should I alert about Uncategorized and stub types?|short conversation]] about it, but never got the answer to this one small curiosity: Is it true that it's in no way a "bad" redundancy for an article to have a stub category in addition to the "regular version" of that category (such as [[:Category:Dinosaur stubs|Dinosaur stubs]] and [[:Category:Dinosaurs|Dinosaurs]])? Or that, furthermore, this should basically be ''required'', given that the stub category will disappear as soon as the stub template does, but the other one will not? If this is indeed the case, someone should put that information in black and white on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types|stub sorting]] page, because it seems a lot of users don't realize this, given the number of categorized stubs tagged with the Uncategorizing bot. <math>\sim</math> [[User:Lenoxus|Lenoxus]] [[User talk:Lenoxus|" * "]] 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:In my opinion, stub categories don't count towards {{tl|uncat}}, just as maintenance categories don't, and catting as well as stubbing is a good option, but I'm not sure if there's been a consensus on this. You might want to bring this up at the stub-sorting talk page to see what people there think. --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 14:25, 22 March 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

== Telephone numbers ==

There are telephone numbers in the article on [[Hastinapura]]. Is this ok? [[User:207.134.250.140|207.134.250.140]] 14:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Telephone numbers, email addresses and other personal infos are generally not allowed on Wikipedia. I went to the [[Hastinapura]] page, and found out that it had undergone several vandalisms since 5 February. I have edited the article and removed it. Thanks for informing here. --[[User:Joshua Chiew|<font color="navy">Joshua</font> <font color="orange">C</font>]][[User Talk:Joshua Chiew|<font color="blue">'''hi'''</font>]][[WP:HEC|<font color="red">e</font>]][[WP:RFW|<font color="purple">w</font>]] 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you, good to know. [[User:207.134.250.140|207.134.250.140]] 15:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Twin Peaks ==

Briefly. Stumbled upon the Wiki Twin Peaks entry while refreshing my memory prior to doing an on-camera interview for a new Twin Peaks DVD set (finally, the whole show in one box). The details regarding the second season are exactly backwards. David was far more present during the second season than the first -- the 'debunked' reason for his supposed absence in season two (he was busy with Wild At Heart) is in fact why he was otherwise engaged during much of the first season of production. In truth, it was Mark Frost who was busy elsewhere during the latter half of the second season, as he was prepping his directorial debut (Storyville).

It follows, of course, that none of the writers resented David's 'return' as he never went away. I am sending this not only to correct the error, but because the error itself seems a purposeful attempt to rewrite history.

Thanks for all your good work.

Harley Peyton

(Writer, Producer, Twin Peaks) <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/68.183.134.200|68.183.134.200]] ([[User talk:68.183.134.200|talk]]) 14:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:May I suggest that you edit it. With your personal experience it seems that you would be a good contributer to the article. I would suggest getting a user account and editing the page. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 16:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Starting new pages. ==

Hello, I've only contributed to entries that were up already and never a new one of my own

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frisky_Dingo_episodes

most of the info is there but I want to start a new page for each of the episodes to add longer summaries and cultural references.

So how does one go about doing that? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Ta3kris|Ta3kris]] ([[User talk:Ta3kris|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ta3kris|contribs]]) 14:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

*I believe you just type in the name of the article you want to create into the search box and press go. If there is no page with that name, near the top of the page, under the search box and "No page with that title exists" it will say something about creating a page with that name, and provide a red link to the article-to-be. Just click on that red link to start editing the page. --[[User:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:#32CD32">LuigiManiac</span>]] | [[User Talk:LuigiManiac|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]] 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::Also see [[Help:Starting a new page|here]]. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 16:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== font problem ==

Wikipedia appears on my computer at work in a Bradley Hand font for some reason. Can you tell me how to change that. It's only the Wikipedia site that does this. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/136.142.131.25|136.142.131.25]] ([[User talk:136.142.131.25|talk]]) 15:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:It could be that the computer at work has a custom skin or that the computer is set to view the site in a different font type. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== history ==

origin of american and canadian immigrants from 1870-1910 <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Saulawa|Saulawa]] ([[User talk:Saulawa|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Saulawa|contribs]]) 16:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:This page is not for this! See the [[WP:RD|Reference desk]]. [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 17:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Moving a page (not an faq) ==

Every now and then, i've seen a page moved over a redirect by many users, yet if i try, it seems to refuse and so require admin action. What is going on? It seems like some of these users are not admins and some are newcomers. [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] 16:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

:Can you better explain what problem you have experienced? Any editor (after 4 days) can move a page, as you probably know, so it should always work. If you can provide a bit more specific information, maybe someone can shed light on it? [[User:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''Adrian'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Adrian_M._H.|<font color="#4B0082">'''M. H.'''</font>]] 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::Admins can move a page over a redirect whatever the circumstance. Other autoconfirmed (4+-day-old) users can move a page over a redirect only if

::*the move reverses the redirect, and

::*there is only one entry in the redirect's edit history.

::Otherwise, use {{tl|db-move|''page to move from''}} on the redirect to request an admin to reverse it. Hope that helps! --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 17:12, 22 March 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])

:::I think i see, thanks. [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Incorrect float in Internet Explorer ==

This relates to the following article: [[Northampton & Lamport Railway]].

At the top of the page, on the right hand side is [[Template:Heritage Railway]], followed by a line diagram (see [[WP:TRAIL]]). Between the two I have used [[Template:Clearright]] so that the line diagram appears on the right, below the infobox. When I previewed and saved the page it looked fine (using Firefox 1.5).

Internet Explorer 7 renders the page incorrectly, displaying the linemap on the right of the page but to the left of the infobox, so left to right you would see TEXT|LINEMAP|INFOBOX. Any way to get this looking right in IE?

:-=#&nbsp;[[User:AmosWolfe|Amos E Wolfe]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:AmosWolfe|talk]]}&nbsp;#=- 17:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

::I'm not sure if its what you were looking for but I moved the map into a different part of the text so it floats below the data table at the start of the article. Hope this helps! [[User:Scottydude|Scottydude]] 17:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

== Problem with the confirmation from Czech Wikipedia. ==

Dear Wiki,

I've received the following text to confirm my registration to Wikipedia Czech:

Někdo (patrně vy, z IP adresy 89.13.33.205) si registroval účet se jménem "Hucul" a touto e-mailovou adresou na Wikipedii.

Pokud si přejete aktivovat e-mailové funkce na Wikipedii, tak pro potvrzení,

že tato adresa opravdu patří vám, přejděte svým internetovým prohlížečem na následující adresu:

http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail/368f51538d32e83eb39df15ec7e43ab9

Pokud jste o toto potvrzení *nežádali*, neklikejte na předchozí odkaz. Platnost tohoto potvrzovacího

kódu vyprší 07:30, 27. 3. 2007.

However, the link does not work. I think the problem is in using the local Czech symbols in the link.

What should I do?

Thank you.

Best regards

Jana <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/89.13.33.91|89.13.33.91]] ([[User talk:89.13.33.91|talk]]) 17:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:You can use 'canonical names' to get round problems with browsers in certain languages: Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail can become Special:Confirmemail. Changing the link to 'Special:Confirmemail' and visiting it, your email seems to have been confirmed, so you should be able to use email features on [[cs:]] now. Hope that helps! --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 17:23, 22 March 2007 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])