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== 0003:0812, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by ReneOliver23IanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=ReneOliver23IanResearch|ts=0003:0812, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Ellis_Ehijator_AbrahamZigZagZurich}}
PleaseHi whateditors, elsejust dowanted to ask what I needcan do to addimprove my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:ReneOliver23IanResearch|ReneOliver23IanResearch]] ([[User talk:ReneOliver23IanResearch|talk]]) 0003:0812, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025 (UTC)
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
:Your draft was rejected, meaning it won't be considered further. You had no sources to establish [[WP:N|notabiliyty]]. [[User:NotAGenious|NotAGenious]] ([[User talk:NotAGenious|talk]]) 05:45, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0005:2328, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by Madison.yAndeHuang ==
{{Lafc|username=Madison.yAndeHuang|ts=0005:2328, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Brice_GelotWinmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi my article has not been accepted, can anyone help me to correct it ? [[User:Madison.y|Madison.y]] ([[User talk:Madison.y|talk]]) 00:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
:Hi @[[User:Madison.y|Madison.y]] it seems many of the sources are interviews which are not independent so cannot be used to establish notability. See also [[WP:NARTIST|the notability guidelines for artists]]. Generally for artists you need critical reviews of their work from reputable publications (ArtForum, major newspapers like the Los Angeles Times, etc.) or to demonstrate they have had solo shows at major galleries or museum, etc. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 15:04, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1006:3040, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by Lin Htet Wah Wah109.252.122.222 ==
{{Lafc|username=Lin Htet Wah Wah109.252.122.222|ts=1006:3040, 328 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Hla_Hla_WinMaxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Notable Achievements: Hla Hla Win has achieved notable recognition and awards for her work in the field of education and social entrepreneurship. Her receipt of the Digital Innovation Award and the Netexplo Innovation Award is a testament to her significant contributions.
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Impactful Education Reform: She has been instrumental in reforming the education system in Myanmar and Southeast Asian nations. Her pioneering use of augmented reality and virtual reality technologies to enhance learning experiences is groundbreaking and deserves acknowledgment.
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
Inspirational Journey: Hla Hla Win's personal journey, from her struggles as a student in the traditional Myanmar education system to her scholarship at Harvard University and subsequent entrepreneurial success, is an inspiring story that can motivate others.
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Social Entrepreneurship: As the CEO of 360ed, she has demonstrated the potential of social entrepreneurship to create positive change in society. Her work showcases how innovative technologies can be harnessed for social impact.
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Comments on your assessment table:
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==
Impact on a Vulnerable Population: Her efforts to continue providing education during challenging times, such as the military coup in Myanmar, demonstrate her unwavering commitment to serving vulnerable and underserved populations, particularly children in conflict areas.
{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Global Relevance: Hla Hla Win's work and mission extend beyond national borders, aligning with global trends in education and technology. Her ideas and solutions hold promise for improving education in other developing communities and countries worldwide.
== 14:57, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Aras2025 ==
Recognition by Reputable Organizations: Her acknowledgment by organizations like the World Economic Forum's Schwab Foundation and UNESCO reflects the international recognition of her contributions.
{{Lafc|username=Aras2025|ts=14:57, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Radio_Duhok}}
Hello,
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
Educational Policy and Innovation: Hla Hla Win's academic background in educational policy and innovation, combined with her practical application of these concepts, makes her a notable figure in the field.
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
Documented Information: There is a significant amount of credible and verifiable information available about Hla Hla Win's life, achievements, and contributions, making her a suitable subject for a Wikipedia page.
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
Educational Resources: A Wikipedia page would serve as an educational resource, providing information about the innovative use of technology in education and the potential of social entrepreneurship to bring about change. [[User:Lin Htet Wah Wah|Lin Htet Wah Wah]] ([[User talk:Lin Htet Wah Wah|talk]]) 10:30, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Lin Htet Wah Wah|Lin Htet Wah Wah]]: I don't see a question anywhere in that. In any case, this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. It is also pending speedy deletion, and if you wish to contest that, you need to do that on the draft's talk page, as the attending administrator will not be looking here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:38, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 10:42, 3 November 2023 review of submission by Stdedos ==
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Stdedos|ts=10:42, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Astu (Unix)}}
I don't understand what is the problem with my submission. It is a translation from https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astu_(Unix), with fixed links.
== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
How can I get more reliable sources from a copyrighted material? [[User:Stdedos|Stdedos]] ([[User talk:Stdedos|talk]]) 10:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=16:50, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:Hi @[[User:Stdedos|Stdedos]]. The French and English Wikipedias are different projects with different standards and guidelines. The English Wikipedia certainly has the most strict content criteria.
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
:For articles about software, check [[WP:NSOFTWARE]] which explains what we need to see in a draft. Your draft has a single reference from blogspot, so it doesn't pass the notability requirements. May I suggest you add some of your article content to the existing [[Mr Robot]] article instead? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 10:46, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::The page I tried to translate is the only "crawled" reference that comes up when searching "astu" at Google (some 1.5y ago)
::Current results look like this (https://pasteboard.co/fJiY7bNH18xv.png)
::Naturally, a more-established ___domain to store knowledge makes it more worthy.
::I am not sure what would make sense including in the main [[Mr. Robot]] page, from a small piece that "quickly" describes a fictional command. [[User:Stdedos|Stdedos]] ([[User talk:Stdedos|talk]]) 11:07, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:::Mm, sorry but Reddit, Twitter, YCombinator, Blogs etc and such don't count as [[WP:RELIABLE|reliable sources]].
:::Perhaps this simply isn't a topic that is notable enough for Wikipedia. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:10, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:01, 3 November 2023 review of submission by 2001:14BB:A0:2383:7A:628:2AFF:DD0B ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=2001:14BB:A0:2383:7A:628:2AFF:DD0B|ts=11:01, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Umbrello_UML}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
I don't understand why my article keeps getting declined. I possibly need help with making it comply to Wikipedia's rules and standards or someone to explain which parts are not acceptable.
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
There already exists a few non-english articles of the same software (article) and other UML tools have their own article pages so it shouldn't be a problem to create one for this specific software also.
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2001:14BB:A0:2383:7A:628:2AFF:DD0B|2001:14BB:A0:2383:7A:628:2AFF:DD0B]] ([[User talk:2001:14BB:A0:2383:7A:628:2AFF:DD0B|talk]]) 11:01, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:ps. Forgot to post this question as a logged in user. I haven't contacted the people who have declined the submission before, so I'll try that also. And it seems English wikipedia has stricter standards compared to most other languages. [[User:Tapioviina|Tapioviina]] ([[User talk:Tapioviina|talk]]) 11:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
::Hi @[[User:Tapioviina|Tapioviina]]. Yes indeed, the English Wikipedia has the strictest content guidelines. The other language are all separate projects with different guidelines and standards.
Hello team,
::Looking at your draft, I would suggest the issue is that most of the sources used are [[WP:PRIMARY]], with then some insignificant coverage in secondary sources (like installation tutorials). We would need to see significant coverage in multiple (usually at least three) secondary sources that are reliable and indepednent of the topic. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 12:36, 3 November 2023 review of submission by Loreta Chilingaryan ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=Loreta Chilingaryan|ts=12:36, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:SARD Anti-Cheat}}
:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi, my draft article has just been rejected. I want to know the reason of the rejection, so that I can improve it.
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SARD_Anti-Cheat [[User:Loreta Chilingaryan|Loreta Chilingaryan]] ([[User talk:Loreta Chilingaryan|talk]]) 12:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
:Hi @[[User:Loreta Chilingaryan|Loreta Chilingaryan]]. Your article was declined, not rejected. Rejected means you wouldn't be able to re-submit. Your draft relies on two primary sources: we would need to see significant coverage in multiple (usually at least three) secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the software in order for this draft to pass the [[WP:NSOFTWARE]] guidelines. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
::okay, thank you very much for clarification [[User:Loreta Chilingaryan|Loreta Chilingaryan]] ([[User talk:Loreta Chilingaryan|talk]]) 13:37, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:38, 3 November 2023 review of submission by ParnassusAward ==
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ParnassusAward|ts=12:38, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Valerian_Markarov}}
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Dear Friends,
Could you please help me to edit and submit an article about my favorite writer Valerian Markarov?
I will highly appreciate your support. [[User:ParnassusAward|ParnassusAward]] ([[User talk:ParnassusAward|talk]]) 12:38, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
= August 29 =
:Hi @[[User:ParnassusAward|ParnassusAward]]. A few issues:
:- you included copyrighted text in your draft. This is strictly prohibited and will likely lead to your draft being deleted. You must paraphrase or summarise the sources you use, do not copy them.
:- you have zero references and no in-line citations. Biographies of living people must be fully sourced. See the tutorial at [[WP:INTREFVE]].
:- you have not proven that Valerian has passed the [[WP:NAUTHOR]] criteria. Only authors who pass that criteria may have an article written about them. You can prove notability by following the guidelines on that page.
:- you have some tone issues, i.e. "recognizes talented, famous, and successful writers of the world, whose high-spirited, bright, and noble works promote the universal values that unite peoples and make our world better, such as humanism, peace, kindness, justice, and love" and "While his loving and caring mother taught her son lessons of kindness and morality, Valerian's father introduced him to the wonderful world of art and literature". This type of language is completely inappropriate for an encyclopaedia which must be written in a neutral, dry, voice. See [[WP:NPOV]].
:Hope that helps, <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== 1401:4029, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by IamsekarHyperbolick ==
{{Lafc|username=IamsekarHyperbolick|ts=1401:4029, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:AKILESHJimmy KATHAMUTHU"Ninja" Chaikong}}
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
How can I insert the reliable source for this article [[User:Iamsekar|Iamsekar]] ([[User talk:Iamsekar|talk]]) 14:40, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Iamsekar|Iamsekar]]: for advice on referencing, see [[WP:REFB]]. As for ''what'' you should be citing, this would be the source that has provided the information in question. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:07, 3 November 2023 review of submission by 223.123.6.22 ==
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=223.123.6.22|ts=18:07, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Namak_Haram}}
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Why this article is not approving or delayed to approved from Wikipedia Editors. [[Special:Contributions/223.123.6.22|223.123.6.22]] ([[User talk:223.123.6.22|talk]]) 18:07, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
:Hi IP, I declined the draft again. Please read through all the links provided in the gray box along with my comments. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:08, 3 November 2023 review of submission by Dance27 ==
{{Lafc|username=Dance27|ts=18:08, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Lil_GAT}}
why ? I added a citation. [[User:Dance27|Dance27]] ([[User talk:Dance27|talk]]) 18:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
:It's just [[WP:SPAM]]? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Dance27}}It Usuallyis multiplepossible independent(no andmore reliablethan sourcesthat) arethat needed.if Regardlessyou ofasked sources,at the[[WP:WikiProject pageMusic|WikiProject youMusic]] have is blatantlyor [[WP:PROMOWikiProject Nepal|promotionalWikiProject Nepal]] andyou wouldmight neverfind besomebody acceptedinterested asenough anto articlework evenon ifit. But don't itsset subjectyour methopes notabilitytoo guidelineshigh. [[User:TornadoLGSColinFine|TornadoLGSColinFine]] ([[User talk:TornadoLGSColinFine|talk]]) 1816:1105, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 (UTC)
:::it is not promotional at all. did you read it ? [[User:Dance27|Dance27]] ([[User talk:Dance27|talk]]) 18:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::It's written completely inappropriately, not at all suitable for Wikipedia. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::what's so, "inappropriate", about ? I can fix it to make it acceptable. [[Special:Contributions/184.99.59.14|184.99.59.14]] ([[User talk:184.99.59.14|talk]]) 18:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::You can't fix it, as the draft has been rejected and I will not consider it further.
::::::o <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:19, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::{{replyto|Dance27}} Language like "the story of how Lil GAT became a Christian Artist is amazing," is promotional. [[User:TornadoLGS|TornadoLGS]] ([[User talk:TornadoLGS|talk]]) 18:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::that's not promotional at all. it's telling my personal story. if you knew me, you would truly be amazed. [[Special:Contributions/184.99.59.14|184.99.59.14]] ([[User talk:184.99.59.14|talk]]) 18:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:Do '''not''' re-submit. I have rejected. It will not be considered further. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:16, 3 November 2023 review of submission by Aminulzisan ==
{{Lafc|username=Aminulzisan|ts=18:16, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Aminul_Islam_Zisan}}
I want to publish this article but it's not being published for some reason can you tell me why please? [[User:Aminulzisan|Aminulzisan]] ([[User talk:Aminulzisan|talk]]) 18:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
== 11:32, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Newacctowork ==
:@[[User:Aminulzisan|Aminulzisan]] I've rejected your draft because it is just spam. Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion. Just get a LinkedIn or something. The draft will soon be deleted. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:18, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Newacctowork|ts=11:32, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Trinity_Private_School}}
::Lol why it's a biography of myself. And how others getting on Wikipedia isn't that promotion? [[User:Aminulzisan|Aminulzisan]] ([[User talk:Aminulzisan|talk]]) 18:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
:::It is spam and will soon be deleted. Please go elsewhere to promote yourself. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
== 19:03, 3 November 2023 review of submission by Llightex ==
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
{{Lafc|username=Llightex|ts=19:03, 3 November 2023|draft=Draft:Omkhar_Arasaratnam}}
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi! I wanted to check to learn more about how I can improve this draft. The AfC request was declined because "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people)." In the submission, I included several sources that were independent of the subject and included significant coverage of the article subject. Could you provide more guidance as to why those sources were insufficient and what kinds of sources / coverage would be better to add? Copying {{reply to|AirshipJungleman29}} in case you have any insights as well! (thanks for your review) [[User:Llightex|Llightex]] ([[User talk:Llightex|talk]]) 19:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{u|Llightex}}, my reasoning was as follows: the duplicate citations [https://engineering.nyu.edu/advisory-council/omkhar-arasaratnam 2] and [https://cyber.nyu.edu/profile/omkhar-arasaratnam/ 4], along with [https://engineering.nyu.edu/news/nyu-tandon-announces-2021-sk-scholarship-recipients 5] and [https://engineering.nyu.edu/engage/industry-engagement/industry-partners/scholarship-programs 6], are non-independent, as they are published by the article subject's employer and thus fall under [[WP:COISOURCE]]. As for the others, citations [https://www.securityweek.com/openssf-receives-5-million-for-open-source-software-security-project/ 5] and [https://cyberscoop.com/openssf-open-source-security-summit/ 7] do not provide significant ccoverage, and citation [https://fintech.global/2023/05/12/cross-industry-organisation-openssf-snaps-up-5m/ 1] fails to meet [[WP:NBASIC]]—it has plagiarized text from the non-independent citations 2/4, which can be seen to have existed [https://web.archive.org/web/20200924213818/https://engineering.nyu.edu/advisory-council/omkhar-arasaratnam since 2020]. Hope that helps. [[User:AirshipJungleman29|~~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 19:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:Llightex|Llightex]] ([[User talk:Llightex|talk]]) 19:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1912:2600, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by YeszzzzGeorgeHav ==
{{Lafc|username=YeszzzzGeorgeHav|ts=1912:2600, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Peshmerga/Kurdistan_Air_Support_CommandFlightSimExpo}}
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::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 2013:0802, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by MagicN7Vaibhav9786 ==
{{Lafc|username=MagicN7Vaibhav9786|ts=2013:0802, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Jared_WunschReason for Article Rejection}}
I'mCould wonderingyou please let me know why thismy article haswas been declinedrejected. DoJust wanted to get an understanding so I justdo not make needthe moresame independentmistakes sources?again [[User:MagicN7Vaibhav9786|MagicN7Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:MagicN7Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 2013:0802, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 (UTC)
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
:Hi @[[User:MagicN7|MagicN7]]. Articles about academics need to show that they pass the [[WP:NACADEMIC]] criteria. Are you able to prove that Jared passes one of the criteria in that link? If so, make a note on the article stating which he passes and resubmit. Or let me know which you think he passes here and I or another reviewer can have another look. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
::Thank you @[[User:Qcne|Qcne]]. He does pass 3, and I'll give proof and resubmit. [[User:MagicN7|MagicN7]] ([[User talk:MagicN7|talk]]) 20:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 2017:3225, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by 223.123.1.80FurretSuperFan ==
{{Lafc|username=223.123.1.80FurretSuperFan|ts=2017:3225, 329 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Fairy_Tale_2Greatest_Idol}}
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
I made more better to this article and made it simple to read.Please accept it. [[Special:Contributions/223.123.1.80|223.123.1.80]] ([[User talk:223.123.1.80|talk]]) 20:32, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
:The draft has been rejected so will no longer be considered. See also [[User talk:Nnn edits]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 20:41, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
= November 4 =
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0018:2402, 429 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by MaryGrace0101Jetsonesque ==
{{Lafc|username=MaryGrace0101Jetsonesque|ts=0018:2402, 429 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Charles_J._OrlandoSam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
The submission I've created for Charles J. Orlando, from my limited experience and standpoint, does pass notability. So many entries I've read that purportedly "pass" notability are *obviously* paid entries and promotional. Whereas what I've written has clear, notable citations, and mainstream sources. I'm unclear what is not passing. (Disclosure: I'm not affiliated with the subject of this entry. Yes, I've followed him and read his books but that shouldn't equate to my being a shill.) I would welcome advise as to why this is rejected in its current draft. [[User:MaryGrace0101|MaryGrace0101]] ([[User talk:MaryGrace0101|talk]]) 00:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
:*advice* not *advise" [[User:MaryGrace0101|MaryGrace0101]] ([[User talk:MaryGrace0101|talk]]) 00:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::{{u|MaryGrace0101}} If you have actual evidence that an article was created by an undisclosed paid editor in violation of [[WP:PAID]], please follow the instructions provided in that policy.
::Your sources either do not mention Mr. Orlando or are interviews with him. Neither establishes notability, which is why the draft was rejected. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
== 01:57, 4 November 2023 review of submission by MadBlade 2 ==
{{Lafc|username=MadBlade 2|ts=01:57, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Hank_Parker_Racing}}
Because I'm still new to wikipedia, and really don't know how to make Wikipedia well, I really want to know what stuff do I need for my Hank Parker racing Wikipedia. [[User:MadBlade 2|MadBlade 2]] ([[User talk:MadBlade 2|talk]]) 01:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:My advice to you is to spend a few weeks or months working on improving existing articles while you learn how Wikipedia works. Writing a new article before you have learnt the basics is like buying an instrument you've never played before and going busking with it: you're likely to have a miserable time.
:In particular, until you've learnt about [[WP:notability|notability]] and the [[WP:golden rule|golden rule]], you're never going to be able to create an article successfully.
:What's wrong with your draft is that there is not a single reference with [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]]. Never mind the results - where has somebody, wholly unconnected with Hank Parker Racing, written in depth about them? If the answer is, nowhere, then they do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:NCORP|notability]], and you shouldn't spend any more time on this. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 03:12, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Benking84 ==
{{Lafc|username=Benking84|ts=03:12, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Swiss_8}}
Hi,
= August 30 =
I have been trying to get this published for a while now, at first it was not enough sources I now have 33 sources, then the sources were not of high enough quality which I also fixed by finding reputable news sources.
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
The most recent one is that it sounded like an advert which I fixed, Chat GPT did half the work and I fixed the rest.
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
Now the latest comment is that it is worse than before? Can you provide any specifics on how? It definitely sounds less like an advert. I have found other new articles with minimal refererences and am confused how these get through but this article cannot? [[User:Benking84|Benking84]] ([[User talk:Benking84|talk]]) 03:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
== 03:16, 4 November 2023 review of submission by MagicN7 ==
Thanks very much.
{{Lafc|username=MagicN7|ts=03:16, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Jared_Wunsch}}
[[User:Wingwatchers|@Wingwatchers]] Thanks for looking at the article. I am a little confused by your comment. Aren't I showing notability by the third criterion of [[WP:NACADEMIC]] by showing he is an AMS fellow (less than 1800 all time) and a Simons fellow of math (less than 500 all time)? And which source is not reliable? [[User:MagicN7|MagicN7]] ([[User talk:MagicN7|talk]]) 03:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:MagicN7|MagicN7]] I think this is notable under [[WP:NACADEMIC]]. That criteria is a special criteria that is distinct from [[WP:NPEOPLE]], and I've certainly made the mistake of forgetting to check if an academic passes that criteria even if they don't seem to pass [[WP:NPEOPLE]]. As such, I've accepted the draft. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 12:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0309:4217, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by BobztvRsakib188 ==
{{Lafc|username=BobztvRsakib188|ts=0309:4217, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Gold SealDraft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Has anyone gained any benefit from using gold seal shilajit, i.e,the disappearance of brain fog,mind set,focus,etc.etc.... [[User:Bobztv|Bobztv]] ([[User talk:Bobztv|talk]]) 03:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:That draft has been deleted. [[User:Missbellanash|Missbellanash]] ([[User talk:Missbellanash|talk]]) 05:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0813:5824, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by SulohiaDevolver789 ==
{{Lafc|username=SulohiaDevolver789|ts=0813:5824, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Siddhanth_LohiaSteal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello. Not sure why the reliability of the sources are being challenged? The references mention multiple leading newspapers in India, including the Times of India which is the largest english newspaper in the world. The references also has links to both Dhirubhai Ambani school which is a leading school in India, and Sevenoaks School which is a leading school in UK. The articles talk about championship victories as well as top 3 podium finishes which are factual in nature. The AI Chess tool that has been made has been covered prolifically in the media and also analysed in detail by Chessbase India which is the largest Chess website in the world. These are all very trust sources and I dont think reliability of these sources should be doubted. I have made more edits now, and added a few more press articles and references. I hope the submission wil be reviewed favourably now. [[User:Sulohia|Sulohia]] ([[User talk:Sulohia|talk]]) 08:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:The Times of India is not the best source to be usingSorry, see [[WP:TOI]]. Interviews and brief mentionswas dothat nota establishquestion? notability.-- [[User:331dotDoubleGrazing|331dotDoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:331dotDoubleGrazing|talk]]) 0913:1225, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Sulohia|Sulohia]]: please note that per [[WP:BLP]], all private personal and family details must be clearly supported by reliable published sources, or else removed. Just because you know the person's [[WP:DOB|DOB]] or family members' names, thanks to your close relationship, isn't enough; they must be verifiable from publications. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0918:4501, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by VirgobeachVasyaPetrovna ==
{{Lafc|username=VirgobeachVasyaPetrovna|ts=0918:4501, 430 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=sandboxDraft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
how do i remove approved drafts from my sandbox [[User:Virgobeach|Virgobeach]] ([[User talk:Virgobeach|talk]]) 09:45, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
:@[[User:Virgobeach|Virgobeach]]: you shouldn't have to. When a draft is approved, it gets moved to the main article space. Often what's left behind is a redirect (as appears to be the case also in [[User:Virgobeach/sandbox]]), but you can delete that just by blanking the contents or replacing them with your next draft. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:49, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
::wonderful thanks DoubleGrazing, Virgobeach [[User:Virgobeach|Virgobeach]] ([[User talk:Virgobeach|talk]]) 09:52, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:07, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Turtle Monarch ==
{{Lafc|username=Turtle Monarch|ts=17:07, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Frederick_Bonbarianburg}}
Review this article again please, new information was discovered about this man. A picture of him is yet to be found. [[User:Turtle Monarch|Turtle Monarch]] ([[User talk:Turtle Monarch|talk]]) 17:07, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 21:31, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Matthewbyver ==
:We don't accept nonsense or joke drafts. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:SlateBlue;">[[User:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">Edward-Woodrow</span>]] • [[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">talk</span>]]</span> 17:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Matthewbyver|ts=21:31, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Matthew_Byver}}
My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 20:51, 4 November 2023 review of submission by KannappaSara9 ==
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=KannappaSara9|ts=20:51, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Tennis Premier League}}
I have submitted the draft again with proper references and citations. Wanted to know whether it is submitted or not. [[User:KannappaSara9|KannappaSara9]] ([[User talk:KannappaSara9|talk]]) 20:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 21:40, 30 August 2025 review of submission by 69.255.14.163 ==
:@[[User:KannappaSara9|KannappaSara9]] you successfully submitted it (see [[Draft:Tennis Premier League]]) and it is pending review. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 20:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=69.255.14.163|ts=21:40, 30 August 2025|draft=User:Wiseman2025/sandbox}}
has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
== 20:57, 4 November 2023 review of submission by TheEvilDrRyley ==
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=TheEvilDrRyley|ts=20:57, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:2nd_Florida_Cavalry,_C.S.A.}}
I need help removing a reference from this page that was added accidentally [[User:TheEvilDrRyley|TheEvilDrRyley]] ([[User talk:TheEvilDrRyley|talk]]) 20:57, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:TheEvilDrRyley|TheEvilDrRyley]] you have a few references bunched up under the References section but they should be placed next the specific content they are supporting. If those are errors, just click on the footnote number, hit delete, then publish changes. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 21:03, 4 November 2023 review of submission by BiGGPanTheRIndia ==
{{Lafc|username=BiGGPanTheRIndia|ts=21:03, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Design_a_Solar_Offgrid_System}}
How we need to edit the topic. We need to have a topic on calculation of energy requirement of a house [[User:BiGGPanTheRIndia|BiGGPanTheRIndia]] ([[User talk:BiGGPanTheRIndia|talk]]) 21:03, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:BiGGPanTheRIndia|BiGGPanTheRIndia]] the draft was rejected so will not be considered. See also [[WP:NOTHOWTO]] and [[WP:PROMO]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 22:00, 4 November 2023 review of submission by 191.81.167.26 ==
{{Lafc|username=191.81.167.26|ts=22:00, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Jaroslav_Muzika}}
sorry, but these comments are, like most of the comments I've received, garbage. You claim that the article has not undergone significant revisions. That is false. You claim that the article is not written in a neutral tone. That is false. You've rejected the article now on the grounds that the subject isn't sufficiently notable, whereas previous editors already had accepted it as sufficiently notable--and they were right to do so: a WWII vet decorated by not one but two heads of state (the Queen of England and the President of Czechoslovakia) is, indeed, sufficiently notable. Stop being obstructionist; provide some halfway decent feedback that actually tells me what you want me to fix, in concrete terms, not some vague obstructionist nonsense about writing essays (a previous comment told me that the article was written like a CV; I changed that--and now I'm told it reads like an essay. Apparently you don't know what an essay is if you think that Wikipedia doesn't include essays on significant subjects as entries. Every encyclopedia does so). [[Special:Contributions/191.81.167.26|191.81.167.26]] ([[User talk:191.81.167.26|talk]]) 22:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
: None of your citations have been formatted correctly, and there are no inline citations so we cannot see which citation supports any of the content, the subject may well be notable but you have to make the effort to show that. See [[WP:REFB]] for help with correctly formatting your sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 22:07, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 22:16, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Sayednaz ==
{{Lafc|username=Sayednaz|ts=22:16, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Sayed_Alawi}}
I need assistance on the article to be published.
What do I need to include for this page as a minimum, so that, after publishing I will be continuingly working on this page. [[User:Sayednaz|Sayednaz]] ([[User talk:Sayednaz|talk]]) 22:16, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:For a start you need to suggest why they are [[WP:GNG|notable]] in their own right, notability cannot be inherited from relations. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 22:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Sayednaz|Sayednaz]] please read through all linked material in the gray box of the decline message. You need to show the subject is notable, keeping in mind the for Wikipedia [[WP:notability is not inherited]] so who their father or siblings are matters not. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 22:19, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:02, 4 November 2023 review of submission by BARTINLI ==
{{Lafc|username=BARTINLI|ts=23:02, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Bartınspor}}
Help me for create Bartınspor page please [[User:BARTINLI|BARTINLI]] ([[User talk:BARTINLI|talk]]) 23:02, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:58, 4 November 2023 review of submission by Catleeball ==
{{Lafc|username=Catleeball|ts=23:58, 4 November 2023|draft=Draft:Hervé_Koubi}}
Hi team,
I translated the article [[fr:Hervé Koubi]] from French to English at [[Draft:Hervé Koubi]]. The English draft was rejected as insufficiently noteworthy, though.
Do you know if this is intentional for translations of pages? E.g. could a page in one language be sufficiently notable, but not in another language? Or was this a mistake?
Thank you!
[[User:Catleeball|Catleeball]] ([[User talk:Catleeball|talk]]) 23:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hello, {{u|Catleeball}}. Each language version of Wikipedia has its own set of policies and guidelines. Accordingly, you cannot assume that a translation of an article in one Wikipedia will be accepted in the English Wikipedia. You can find more information at [[WP:TRANSLATE]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 00:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::Understood, thank you for clarifying! [[User:Catleeball|Catleeball]] ([[User talk:Catleeball|talk]]) 03:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
= November 5 =
== 01:07, 5 November 2023 review of submission by CayDyn5 ==
{{Lafc|username=CayDyn5|ts=01:07, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:St._Catherine's_Empangeni}}
I don't understand why it's violating copywrite [[User:CayDyn5|CayDyn5]] ([[User talk:CayDyn5|talk]]) 01:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:You took the content directly from their website. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about the topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia defintion of [[WP:N|notability]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 01:21, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Wikilover3509 ==
{{Lafc|username=Wikilover3509|ts=01:21, 5 November 2023|draft=User:Wikilover3509/sandbox}}
I have added multiple independent references for notability. How to submit this article for publishing? [[User:Wikilover3509|Wikilover3509]] ([[User talk:Wikilover3509|talk]]) 01:21, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:There is nothing that you can do- the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something has fundamentally changed since the last review, the first step is to appeal to the reviewer directly. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:18, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 06:14, 5 November 2023 review of submission by MferrariACWA ==
{{Lafc|username=MferrariACWA|ts=06:14, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Marco_Arcelli}}
Hi, I would appreciate some guidance on how to improve the quality of citations in this article. [[User:MferrariACWA|MferrariACWA]] ([[User talk:MferrariACWA|talk]]) 06:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:You need independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage of him; the sources you have currently are just brief biographies of him and descriptions of his activities. "Significant coverage" is that which goes beyond just describing what he does or his existence and goes into detail about what the source sees as important/significant/influential about him- what we term [[WP:BIO|notability]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 13:41, 5 November 2023 review of submission by 2600:4041:5972:F900:BC2A:D727:E32A:6B09 ==
{{Lafc|username=2600:4041:5972:F900:BC2A:D727:E32A:6B09|ts=13:41, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Fractional_Chern_Insulator}}
Hello
I received a denial of the article on the reason that the references are not related to the subject. This must be a mistake....For example if one clicks on one of the references https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6384/62.full.pdf immediately the Science magazine article that has "Fractional Chern Insulator" in the title appears. Same with the other references. If one googles the first set of 3 papers referenced in the article
T. Neupert, L. Santos, C. Chamon, and C. Mudry, Phys. Rev. Lett. 106, 236804 (2011); D. N. Sheng, Z.-C. Gu, K. Sun, and L. Sheng, Nature Communications 2, 389 (2011); N. Regnault and B. A. Bernevig, Phys. Rev. X 1, 021014 (2011)
one immediately sees they have around 2000 citations altogether (in google scholar) and they contain fractional chern insulators.
So i have no idea why the reviewer says the article contains no published sources!!! There are many science, nature, phys rev letters and other well known journals in the references
please respond as quickly as possible.
thanks
[[Special:Contributions/2600:4041:5972:F900:BC2A:D727:E32A:6B09|2600:4041:5972:F900:BC2A:D727:E32A:6B09]] ([[User talk:2600:4041:5972:F900:BC2A:D727:E32A:6B09|talk]]) 13:41, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:I don't see where the reviewer says that {{tq|"the references are not related to the subject"}}.
:But putting that aside, you're citing 12 sources, but only two are available online, is that really the case? Of course, offline sources are acceptable, but it would make the reviewer's job much easier if you could point to online versions which almost certainly exist for some or all of those sources.
:And if you are going to cite offline sources, then you must provide sufficient details to enable them to be reliable identified and verified. In most of these, the papers' titles aren't even mentioned, and generally the information is quite patchy. Journals should be cited specifically using the {{tl|Cite journal}} template, populating the parameters as fully as possible. And please, do not expect reviewers, or for that matter later readers, to Google your sources, they should be made available without any such additional steps. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::As a reviewer can I ask what "phys rev letters" are? [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 14:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 14:54, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Aw.griffioen ==
{{Lafc|username=Aw.griffioen|ts=14:54, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:IBoost_technology}}
This page is rejected because of lack of reliable sources. I am afraid this is a mistake. iBoost technology has been described in detail in a paper in the journal Vaccine (2018) and several follow-up scientific papers, including one in Nature Communications, have been published. In addition, iBoost technology is currently very popular, as clinical studies using the technology are planned to strart. If this is not tracable and reliable enough, please let me know what sources I could add to improve the page. [[User:Aw.griffioen|Aw.griffioen]] ([[User talk:Aw.griffioen|talk]]) 14:54, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:Yes it is a mistake your draft was NOT rejected, it was declined, which means you can still work on and bring it up to standard and re-submit, please note that being "popular" is not a valid criteria for inclusion. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 15:25, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{ec}} {{ping|Aw.griffioen}} Fortunately for you, the draft was only ''declined'' not rejected. This means you can resubmit it once you fix the issues. {{u|Johannes Maximilian}}, the reviewer asked in a comment for you to not cite predatory journals. I haven't checked all the sources yet, but I assume this is the issue. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:SlateBlue;">[[User:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">Edward-Woodrow</span>]] • [[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">talk</span>]]</span> 15:25, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 15:16, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Qemorio ==
{{Lafc|username=Qemorio|ts=15:16, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Two_Chicks_Walking_Tours}}
Hi, I am just wondering why the article was rejected. I am sure I can fix the issues if I know what the issues are. If this is posted somewhere and I have missed it I sincerely apologize. Thank you so much for your time. [[User:Qemorio|Qemorio]] ([[User talk:Qemorio|talk]]) 15:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|Qemorio}} firstly, your draft was just declined, not rejected. ''Rejection'' provides no option to resubmit the draft. You, on the other hand, can fix any problems are resubmit for further review by clicking the blue {{clickable button|Resubmit|color=blue}} button on the pink box at the top of the draft.
:The draft was declined by {{u|Vanderwaalforces}}, and the decline reason is listed in the grey box. It's a standard decline reason that basically says the topic has not yet shown to be "[[WP:N|notable]]".
:{{tqbm|This draft's references do not show that the subject [[Wikipedia:Notability|qualifies for a Wikipedia article]]. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
:* ''[[Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline|in-depth]]'' (not just passing mentions about the subject)
:* [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources{{!}}''reliable'']]
:* [[Wikipedia:No original research#Secondary{{!}}''secondary'']]
:* [[Wikipedia:Independent sources{{!}}''independent'']] of the subject
:{{tqbm|Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about [[Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability){{!}}mistakes to avoid]] when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
:}}}}
:I hope this helps. Cheers, <span style="font-weight:bold; color:SlateBlue;">[[User:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">Edward-Woodrow</span>]] • [[User talk:Edward-Woodrow|<span style="color:SlateBlue;">talk</span>]]</span> 15:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for the clarification (rejected/declined) and information on what qualifies as "notable" I will update and resubmit. [[User:Qemorio|Qemorio]] ([[User talk:Qemorio|talk]]) 15:44, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 17:04, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Technobabylon ==
{{Lafc|username=Technobabylon|ts=17:04, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Evgueni_Ivantsov}}
Hello - Thank you for your feedback. I understand that the reason for rejection of the article is that sources which were not independent and secondary were used. Please could you kindly help point out which articles and references are not compliant with Wikipedia policies exactly? The main first 4 references which are used to describe the subject are ERMC website, World Economic Forum, National University of Singapore and Streamly, none of which were written by the subject. The remainder of the references are just a list publications made by the subject and have no bearing on the description of the subject. Therefore I am really confused as to why this draft is not compliant. Appreciate your kind advice and help. Regards, Technobabylon [[User:Technobabylon|Technobabylon]] ([[User talk:Technobabylon|talk]]) 17:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Technobabylon|Technobabylon]] anything written by him is a [[WP:primary source|primary source]] which is not useful so I suggest removing all those sources. A short list of his publications is fine though (around 5-7 of his most notable works based on reviews by reputable critics/publications). What is needed are secondary independent sources that have written in-depth ''about him'' or ''about'' his work. Also, if you are affiliated with him, you need to declare your [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. If you have any financial relationship (client, employer, etc.), you need to follow [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 17:32, 5 November 2023 review of submission by MarvDjEng ==
{{Lafc|username=MarvDjEng|ts=17:32, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Jo_Lindner}}
Can I set the article "free to edit" in another way than it currently is for everyone so maybe together we can achieve to add what is currrently maybe missing? [[User:MarvDjEng|MarvDjEng]] ([[User talk:MarvDjEng|talk]]) 17:32, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:MarvDjEng|MarvDjEng]]. Any Wikipedia article that isn't protected is free to be edited by anyone already, including your draft.
:However, us volunteer editors don't usually edit drafts and we don't have a co-editing service. It is up to you to improve the draft and prove notability. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:37, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:Anyone can edit a draft, but generally drafts are only found by people who already know they exist. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you. I was thinking of reacjing out directly to people in the bodybuilding subgenre of Wikipedia. I am not looking to "outsource" work but rather to find likeminded people who, together, find the best version that we can get. I just want to make sure it is not against some kind of privacy to do so... [[User:MarvDjEng|MarvDjEng]] ([[User talk:MarvDjEng|talk]]) 21:01, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I was going to suggest you post on [[WT:WikiProject Bodybuilding]], but I see that that project is listed as inactive, so there may not be many people watching it (fewer than 30 people have that on their watchlist). Not sure if there might be another [[WP:List of WikiProjects|WikiProject]] that is relevant and ore active? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:MarvDjEng|MarvDjEng]] try [[WT:WikiProject Sports]], which is the parent project to WikiProject Bodybuilding and is active. There are no privacy or other issues with soliciting help and anyone is welcome to edit drafts. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 16:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 19:07, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Igreo ==
{{Lafc|username=Igreo|ts=19:07, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Max_Nardari}}
I have inserted and corrected what was highlighted.
What more can you do to avoid making another mistake?
Do you consider it encyclopedic enough? And in your opinion, is the draft well written?
Thank you so much. [[User:Igreo|Igreo]] ([[User talk:Igreo|talk]]) 19:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Igreo|Igreo]] if you want another review, please resubmit the draft and a reviewer will take look. We generally do not do pre-reviews. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:45, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 22:56, 5 November 2023 review of submission by SSEKYANZI FREDERIC OFFICIAL ==
{{Lafc|username=SSEKYANZI FREDERIC OFFICIAL|ts=22:56, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Ssekyanzi_Frederick_Official}}
help me to upload my docments [[User:SSEKYANZI FREDERIC OFFICIAL|SSEKYANZI FREDERIC OFFICIAL]] ([[User talk:SSEKYANZI FREDERIC OFFICIAL|talk]]) 22:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. Please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:19, 5 November 2023 review of submission by Gulbi Balbulus ==
{{Lafc|username=Gulbi Balbulus|ts=23:19, 5 November 2023|draft=Draft:Salve_sancta_parens}}
Hey,
I wrote the article for this composition for the German Wikipedia and wanted to translate it for the English Wikipedia. My first submission was declined on the grounds of being too much like an essay and not citing enough secondary sources. As everything was already based on academic literature and not my personal opinion I assumed adding references to said sources would suffice. There is now a citation for almost every sentence. However, it was declined a second time with the same reasoning as before.
I'm a bit at a loss how to improve any further. Maybe I got the criticism of the article reading more like an essay wrong? My understanding is that it means the article should be based on reliable sources, not my own subjective point of view. But everything said in the article has a citation.
I'd be very grateful for any help :) [[User:Gulbi Balbulus|Gulbi Balbulus]] ([[User talk:Gulbi Balbulus|talk]]) 23:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
= November 6 =
== 00:08, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Dwanyewest ==
{{Lafc|username=Dwanyewest|ts=00:08, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Anna_Buhigas}}
I have added the dates [[Anna Buhigas]] played professional soccer in her inbox and I can't think of any additional improvements I could make since I have provided third person sources about her career. [[User:Dwanyewest|Dwanyewest]] ([[User talk:Dwanyewest|talk]]) 00:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Dwanyewest|Dwanyewest]]: I'm not quite sure what you mean by "third person sources", but for notability per [[WP:GNG]], we need to see significant coverage (not just passing mentions, match reports, player stats, etc.) directly of her, in multiple secondary sources (newspapers, magazines, TV or radio programmes, etc.) that are reliable and entirely independent of her (ie. not her club or university, and not interviews or press releases or her coach commenting on her, etc.). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 07:16, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Kristinak98 ==
{{Lafc|username=Kristinak98|ts=07:16, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Planforge}}
Hello!
I have viewed, that my draft of the "Planforge" article was declined. Please review the draft again, as it is an exact translation of the german article "Planforge": https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planforge
Thus, I don't understand, how the draft could not be accepted, as the exact same german article I translated it from, already existed on wikipedia for a long time. Furthermore, as it is a translation, it would be wrong, if I now wrote it completely different than the german one, right?
Thank you and best regards [[User:Kristinak98|Kristinak98]] ([[User talk:Kristinak98|talk]]) 07:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Kristinak98|Kristinak98]]: each language version of Wikipedia is completely separate, with their own policies and requirements (and the ones here on the English-language Wikipedia are probably the strictest); therefore, whether an article exists on one, says nothing about whether the same article will be accepted on another language version. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:25, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::Hello @[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]]! Tanks for your reply, I will try to rewrite my draft and write a complete new article of Planforge for the English-language Wikipedia to meet its policies. Thanks! [[User:Kristinak98|Kristinak98]] ([[User talk:Kristinak98|talk]]) 12:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 08:21, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Pedropaulofb ==
{{Lafc|username=Pedropaulofb|ts=08:21, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Unified_Foundational_Ontology}}
Thank you for your review. Could you please elaborate on the aspects in which the article needs enhancements for it to be approved? [[User:Pedropaulofb|Pedropaulofb]] ([[User talk:Pedropaulofb|talk]]) 08:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Pedropaulofb|Pedropaulofb]]it seems most of it is supported with publications by the same author, [[Giancarlo Guizzardi]] and associates, but what you need are [[WP:secondary sources|secondary sources]] that have written in-depth about Unified Foundational Ontology and summarize what they independently say. Please also see the [[WP:Neutral point of view]] policy. Wikipedia cannot be the mouthpiece for a single person or group's research, theories, etc. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 17:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 08:39, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Edizengoff ==
{{Lafc|username=Edizengoff|ts=08:39, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:That They May Face the Rising Sun}}
Trying to understand why the article was declined I tried to make it very similar to other book articles for example this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heather_Blazing [[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] ([[User talk:Edizengoff|talk]]) 08:39, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]]: please don't model your writing on articles that themselves have problems. You need to instead show that the book in question satisfies the relevant notability guidelines, namely [[WP:NBOOK]] / [[WP:BOOKCRIT]], and/or [[WP:GNG]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for the replay!
::The book I am writing about won a major [[:Category:Literary awards|literary award]] and has sevral academic works written about and a film coming out based on it.
::The reason it was declined was "There's lots of sources in google from reputable websites. Read some and write a decent article using them as sources." for which parts should I have used Google for?
::Which parts of what I wrote werent decent? [[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] ([[User talk:Edizengoff|talk]]) 08:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::It's not Google itself you should use as a source, but sources discovered with Google. The book is indeed notable- but you still need to have multiple independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] summarized in the article. You only have one source. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Why are sources I have picked arent reliable enough? To prove the books has won prized I have cited the prizes webisite. Regarding the plot sumarry I have cited an academic papper and a blog why isnt that enough?
:So instead of the blog should I use the book itself as source? I have looked at many other book articles which for thep lot part dont seem to cite any sources at all. [[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] ([[User talk:Edizengoff|talk]]) 11:22, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::Courtesy ping @[[User:Vanderwaalforces|Vanderwaalforces]] <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:24, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Qcne|Qcne]] thanks for the ping. @[[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] The book/novel is notable, I must say, but you see that book you made reference to, it is also a notable one, and I guess nobody wants to nominate it for deletion because of it's status, [[The Heather Blazing|that article]] is one of Wikipedia's ''problem page'' and we don't want this new one you're creating to become one that is why we want it at a better, or at least a good state. Doing a cursory search return quite a handful of useful materials that you can use to develop the article, a lot that I don't want to start listing, when you [https://www.google.com/search?q=That+They+May+Face+the+Rising+Sun do the search yourself] you'll find useful things on Google.
:::I hope you understand this and it helps you. Kudos! [[User:Vanderwaalforces|Vanderwaalforces]] ([[User talk:Vanderwaalforces|talk]]) 11:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Vanderwaalforces|Vanderwaalforces]]
::::Thanks for the replay I did the Google search read the book itself and read academic papers about which I refrenced in my draft so I am trying to understand how many more sources should be added and in which parts of the article do I need to cite every part of the plot summary and find correct pages in the book? [[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] ([[User talk:Edizengoff|talk]]) 11:56, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] As a matter of fact, if you make a statement like {{tq|The novel received considerable critical acclaim, by its recognition at the [[Irish Book Awards]] in 2003 and its nomination for the prestigious [[International Dublin Literary Award]].}}, it should be followed by a citation to a reliable source that says, without confusion, that ''Oh yes! the novel truely received a critical acclaim by its recognition at the Irish Book Awards in 2003...'' and so on. It should not be exactly what the source states though, you should write what the source says in your [[WP:OWNWORDS|own words]]. Also, {{tq|Notably, [[Alison Light]] from [[The Independent]] provided a commendable review, stating, "McGahern conjures the warmth and decency of working people without sentimentality.}} should be followed by a citation too, and so on.
:::::These are just examples of what is expected of you. [[User:Vanderwaalforces|Vanderwaalforces]] ([[User talk:Vanderwaalforces|talk]]) 12:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 09:08, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Digital.niteshsharma ==
{{Lafc|username=Digital.niteshsharma|ts=09:08, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Rajat_Raj_Shukal}}
I need a assistance to guide me to post a article. [[User:Digital.niteshsharma|Digital.niteshsharma]] ([[User talk:Digital.niteshsharma|talk]]) 09:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:OP blocked. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 09:21, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Sirius Stella ==
{{Lafc|username=Sirius Stella|ts=09:21, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:OptTek}}
My submission was declined. The reviewer said "close, but not enough independent, significant coverage."
I would love some more detail on what coverage is needed. I thought the references provided were enough in number from multiple independent sources. [[User:Sirius Stella|Sirius Stella]] ([[User talk:Sirius Stella|talk]]) 09:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Sirius Stella|Sirius Stella]]: I haven't done a source analysis, just going by what you and the reviewer said. Note that it's not enough for the sources to be numerous, or independent, they must be ''at once'' independent '''and''' reliable '''and''' secondary '''and''' provide significant coverage of the subject directly, and there must be "multiple" (which is usually interpreted as three or more) such sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:33, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 10:38, 6 November 2023 review of submission by 220.253.130.93 ==
{{Lafc|username=220.253.130.93|ts=10:38, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft: Sean BE}}
Hello, for the charts is it enough to cite the website that documents music placements, or do I need a reference to a chart position from a news source? Lastly, it looks like peacocking language was used early on but has been edited out - does there need to be any more tidying before this draft is resubmitted? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.130.93|220.253.130.93]] ([[User talk:220.253.130.93|talk]]) 10:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:I'm fairly sure you just need a source showing the chart position to establish that they've charted.
:As for the rest, we don't really do pre-review reviews; to get feedback, please submit it. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 11:05, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Edizengoff ==
{{Lafc|username=Edizengoff|ts=11:05, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:That_They_May_Face_the_Rising_Sun}}
Why are sources I have picked arent reliable enough?
To prove the books has won prized I have cited the prizes webisite.
Regarding the plot sumarry I have cite an academic papper and a blog why isnt that enough? [[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]] ([[User talk:Edizengoff|talk]]) 11:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Edizengoff|Edizengoff]]: please don't start a new thread about the same draft, reply to the earlier one so that the conversation is all in one place. Thanks, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 12:12, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Talhashakeel374 ==
{{Lafc|username=Talhashakeel374|ts=12:12, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Quake_Services}}
How many reference add to publish Quake Services page on Wikipedia. [[User:Talhashakeel374|Talhashakeel374]] ([[User talk:Talhashakeel374|talk]]) 12:12, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Talhashakeel374|Talhashakeel374]] Hi there, please take a look at [[WP:FIRSTARTICLE|writing your first article]]. [[User:Vanderwaalforces|Vanderwaalforces]] ([[User talk:Vanderwaalforces|talk]]) 12:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 13:08, 6 November 2023 review of submission by ASKanetkar ==
{{Lafc|username=ASKanetkar|ts=13:08, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Sample coolers}}
I made my first Article on Wikipedia and want to contribute more on sample cooler topic. This topic is separate from "Steam and Water Analysis System" How can I move my draft Article to Publish it for all viewers ? I can contribute more on this topic. Kindly advice [[User:ASKanetkar|ASKanetkar]] ([[User talk:ASKanetkar|talk]]) 13:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:ASKanetkar|ASKanetkar]]: it seems you have created two things, [[Sample cooler]], which was redirected to [[Steam_and_water_analysis_system#Sample_coolers]], as it was not a viable article and completely unreferenced. And also [[Draft:Sample coolers]], which you have not submitted for review yet, and therefore, at this time it is not in the pipeline for publication. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::I've added the template required to submit your draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 14:58, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Jbobbink ==
{{Lafc|username=Jbobbink|ts=14:58, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Bynder}}
I am confused about the reasoning behind references not being accepted. Yes, I added a couple of sources like https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/tagged/health/amsterdams-bynder-bringing-cloud-based-130000325.html and https://www.bynder.com/en/about-us/ that do not comply with being "secondary". However, I do not see what is wrong with sources like https://www.forrester.com/blogs/bynders-acquisition-of-webdam-for-49-million-will-force-big-players-to-innovate/ and https://martechseries.com/content/digi-asset-mgmt/bynder-announces-strategic-acquisition-webdam-49-1-million/ Could you clarify? [[User:Jbobbink|Jbobbink]] ([[User talk:Jbobbink|talk]]) 14:58, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jbobbink|Jbobbink]]: routine business reporting such as M&A, financial results, appointments, opening of new locations or markets, etc. does not constitute significant coverage, and in any case is invariably based on press materials supplied by the organisation and therefore not considered independent or secondary. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 15:48, 6 November 2023 review of submission by 65.215.95.162 ==
{{Lafc|username=65.215.95.162|ts=15:48, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Suzanne_Kianpour}}
Given the existence of plenty of other reporters with less accomplishments, it seems strange to have Suzanne Kianpour's career be denied and considered insignificant, especially given she's both listed in Wikipedia already under other BBC reporters with Wikipedia pages for themselves.
Here are examples offered below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_BBC_newsreaders_and_reporters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Willis_(journalist)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Ghattas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Plett_Usher
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Long
These briefs for other reporters list less accomplishments than Kianpour, yet aren't denied. [[Special:Contributions/65.215.95.162|65.215.95.162]] ([[User talk:65.215.95.162|talk]]) 15:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:See [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 15:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:We don't, and you shouldn't, assess drafts by comparing them to other articles that may exist, but by determining whether they meet the relevant guidelines and policies, in this case regarding notability. If you can cite sources which satisfy the [[WP:GNG]] notability guideline, it may be possible to have an article published on this subject. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:52, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi IP editor. I rejected this as every source was [[WP:PRIMARY]], so useless at establishing notability under [[WP:GNG]]. If you can substantially re-work the article to prove notability under those criteria, ping me on my user talk page and I will have another look. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 16:41, 6 November 2023 review of submission by 2600:1700:B880:5970:9E2:FAEA:8102:807 ==
{{Lafc|username=2600:1700:B880:5970:9E2:FAEA:8102:807|ts=16:41, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Steven_H._Rosen}}
Draft has been rejected multiple times and need help with next steps. The page was first rejected for not enough reliable sources. I added in references to make sure the information was well-supported, but the submission was then rejected for having too many sources tied to the subject (this made sense, I did not realize that press releases by related companies were not allowed). I then reworked the page to include information only from independent news outlets and it was just rejected again. I'm a bit unsure what to do next, as I feel like I've shown that Rosen is a notable Cleveland businessman. Can you help me with exactly what next steps to take? Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:B880:5970:9E2:FAEA:8102:807|2600:1700:B880:5970:9E2:FAEA:8102:807]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:B880:5970:9E2:FAEA:8102:807|talk]]) 16:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:I concur with the latest reviewer. Interviews, passing mentions, press releases / company announcements, routine business reporting and primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:GNG]]. I didn't find even one source among the 18 cited that contributes to that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 17:06, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Dkoltorcan ==
{{Lafc|username=Dkoltorcan|ts=17:06, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Bernhard_Ruchti}}
Hello, I try to work on the new version of my article about Bernhard Ruchti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bernhard_Ruchti). I understand sone of the concerns about the neutral point of view, I can easily fix this. However, I have two questions:
- About the comment that is still appearing at the top that says: "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use." This is not the case and I don't understand why this comment is appearing here, I have no personal relation with the person and I am not paid by him. I don't receive any incentive or anything else. What should I do (apart from the conversation I already had with your colleague) to have this sentence removed?
- About the DOB: I was told that I should prove the DOB. Usually this musicians doesn't display his full DOB online (for example on his website there is only is year of birth) but I found it in a printed program when attending one of his concerts. Can I use a printed program as source of DOB? Also, how to quote it properly so that it is considered valid for Wikipedia? For example, when I look at other musicians' Wikipedia page such as András Schiff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A1s_Schiff) there is no reference after the DOB.
Thank you for your help,
Dkoltorcan [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 17:06, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]]: regarding the DOB, I don't think you can use a concert programme as a source, because it may not be available for verification, and in any case almost certainly does not qualify as [[WP:RS|reliable]].
:And yes, there are inevitably some articles out there where the DOB isn't referenced, in violation of [[WP:BLP]], but this doesn't mean we should be creating more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 17:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]]: forgot to address the paid-editing tag, but this has in the meantime been removed. I was just going to say that it isn't an unreasonable thing to suspect, given that you have uploaded the photo used in this draft as your 'own work', which suggests that you must have been at least once at close quarters with the subject, which in turn may imply some sort of connection. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 17:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::That is because I asked him for the authorization of using his picture. I would not use it without authorization. The Wikimedia contacted him to confirm that I had the right to use his photo and he provided the necessary paperwork. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 20:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] he cannot authorize only you to use it or only Wikipedia to use it. Please see [[WP:Donating copyrighted materials]] for additional information on how the photographer can donate the photo (Bernhard Ruchti is likely not the copyright holder as generally the photographer owns the copyright). Nothing at Commons suggests this has been followed as there is no indication permission has been given. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:11, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::It is already done. It was the first step. All the paperwork has been signed and there is no issue with the media. @[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]]<nowiki/>was asking why I downloaded the picture, I replied. This was to reply on the paid-editing tag, which is not the case. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 21:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::I mean uploaded, not downloaded :) Sorry for the typos. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 21:45, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] I have started a discussion on the draft's talk page and pinged you there ([[Draft talk:Bernhard Ruchti]]). The photo is not the reason for decline but a reason to suspect a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]]. If you are in anyway affiliated with Ruchti then you do need to [[WP:DECLARE]]. I will post a query on your talk page to which you can respond, thus ending the discussion here. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 22:03, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, noted, thanks. I have been told several times and I have replied. There is no conflict of interest. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 22:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::If you have communicated with the subject, that is a conflict of interest. Articles are typically written without any involvement from, or even the knowledge of, the subject. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::I had to ask him permission to use his picture, but apart from that there is no conflict of interest. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 23:22, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::That is sufficient for a conflict of interest. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:28, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::Ok I see. Can you redirect me to the proper action to take then? Because it was not clear to me what to do next and where to display the fact that I asked M. Ruchti's permission to use his picture? Thank you [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 23:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::Please see [[WP:COI]], but it will be sufficient for you to just write a statement on your user page disclosing your communication with him. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Thank you for your help. Do I need to give a link to my Draft? Or to the media itself? [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I found the Connected contributor section. I added it to my page. Thank you again for your help. [[User:Dkoltorcan|Dkoltorcan]] ([[User talk:Dkoltorcan|talk]]) 00:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 18:27, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Saffiulla Muhammad ==
{{Lafc|username=Saffiulla Muhammad|ts=18:27, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Gobind_Das}}
I have a physical hard copy of a newspaper article in English and Odia language. I want to show it as a reference to prove the authenticity of the person in the Wikipedia. How can I use this physical newspaper cutouts. Please help. [[User:Saffiulla Muhammad|Saffiulla Muhammad]] ([[User talk:Saffiulla Muhammad|talk]]) 18:27, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Saffiulla Muhammad|Saffiulla Muhammad]] authenticity is not the issue but showing the subject meets the [[WP:NBIO|notability guidelines]]. Nevertheless, you can use the "Manual" citation method and fill out all the pertinent information (author if known, publication, title, date of publication, etc.). See also [[WP:CITE]]. If you need additional help, you can ask at the [[WP:Teahouse|Teahouse]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 21:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 18:35, 6 November 2023 review of submission by 108.21.67.83 ==
{{Lafc|username=108.21.67.83|ts=18:35, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Georgios_Dritsakos}}
Can you please help me create an articles about the biography of Georgios Dritsakos as a Lieutenant General of the Hellenic Air Force, a Lieutenant Colonel and Colonel of the Hellenic Air Force, and Adjutant to the President of the Hellenic Republic Constantinos Stephanopoulos? [[Special:Contributions/108.21.67.83|108.21.67.83]] ([[User talk:108.21.67.83|talk]]) 18:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Did you read the comment? You need to provide the source for ALL the content you have added, where did it come from? [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 21:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 21:09, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Ddllggpro ==
{{Lafc|username=Ddllggpro|ts=21:09, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:FeminISISt}}
I have tried to upload a well known term twice but you keep rejecting my artical. I am starting to think that you do not accept the fact that FeminISISm is real [[User:Ddllggpro|Ddllggpro]] ([[User talk:Ddllggpro|talk]]) 21:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
* {{u|Ddllggpro}}, firstly a single post on social media does not make something 'real'. Secondly Wikipedia has articles about notable subjects, not ones that just exist. All new articles on Wikipedia have to show the subject is notable (See [[WP:N]]) which in most cases requires significant coverage ([[WP:SIGCOV]]) in multiple independent ([[WP:INDY]]) reliable sources ([[WP:RS]]). [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 21:13, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 22:05, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Luc1239 ==
{{Lafc|username=Luc1239|ts=22:05, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Alejandra Villarreal Velez}}
This page was declined for submission. How can I improve the article so that it will be accepted the next time? [[User:Luc1239|Luc1239]] ([[User talk:Luc1239|talk]]) 22:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:You have not established that this musician meets the [[WP:BAND|special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician]], as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:19, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Melursus Mare ==
{{Lafc|username=Melursus Mare|ts=23:19, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Academies_of_Loudoun}}
Helllo! My draft about the magnet school called the Academies of Loudoun. It was rejected for lacking reliable sources. I'm confused about this for two reasons, the first is that many other articles in the same category and locale use the same sources I did. For example, in an article about a high school in the same district (Independence High School in Ashburn) uses sources that came from 6 different publishers, 4 of which I also cited.
Secondly, Wikipedia's reliable sources wiki states that "Similarly, the publisher's web site is likely to be reliable for the fact that the work exists". In my article, for example, I cite the school district's website that certain courses in fact are taught at the school. I frequently cited the school district's website, but only for things that were completely factual, like the population of the school.
Because of this, I'm having trouble finding a way to fix the reputability of my article, how can I do this? [[User:Melursus Mare|Melursus Mare]] ([[User talk:Melursus Mare|talk]]) 23:19, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Melursus Mare|Melursus Mare]] it appears this is resolved as the draft was accepted. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 18:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:31, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Dubaiali ==
{{Lafc|username=Dubaiali|ts=23:31, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Addrian_Productions}}
I added real news source, could you please help me, how can make it live? [[User:Dubaiali|Dubaiali]] ([[User talk:Dubaiali|talk]]) 23:31, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:You need to resubmit it for review, but you haven't addressed the issues adequately yet. Please read the messages from reviewers carefully. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:35, 6 November 2023 review of submission by GonetotheDawgs ==
{{Lafc|username=GonetotheDawgs|ts=23:35, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Minrose_Gwin}}
This is my first attempt at creating an article, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate the fast feedback, but it looks like I'm going to need some hand holding because of my inexperience. Can you tell me if the primary weakness in the article is the references contained in the following sentences, or is it something else? Thank you!
Myrlie Evers-Williams who called the book “a treasure.”
Lee Smith has called The Queen of Palmyra "the most powerful and also the most lyrical novel about race, racism and denial in the American South since To Kill a Mockingbird," and Kirkus Reviews has described "Gwin's prose [as] profound and Faulknerian in tone." [[User:GonetotheDawgs|GonetotheDawgs]] ([[User talk:GonetotheDawgs|talk]]) 23:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:GonetotheDawgs|GonetotheDawgs]] it seems most of it is sources directly to her work which are not independent so not helpful. I suggest adding more reviews from reputable critics/publications, see also [[WP:NAUTHOR]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 18:11, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 23:46, 6 November 2023 review of submission by Dubaiali ==
{{Lafc|username=Dubaiali|ts=23:46, 6 November 2023|draft=Draft:Mohammad_Ali_Zulfikar_Zahedi}}
Dear Sir, The article is for a film director and given authenticate news source. Could you help me please how would be the article live as it is declined. Should i change the article formate? Looking for your kind support [[User:Dubaiali|Dubaiali]] ([[User talk:Dubaiali|talk]]) 23:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
= November 7 =
== 00:19, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Theotherdreadpirate ==
{{Lafc|username=Theotherdreadpirate|ts=00:19, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:DJ_LiquidTodd}}
I have made some adjustments to the article and would like some feedback on what can be improved in order to increase the chances of it being accepted. Thanks! [[User:Theotherdreadpirate|Theotherdreadpirate]] ([[User talk:Theotherdreadpirate|talk]]) 00:19, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:We don't really do pre-review reviews. The best way to get feedback is to submit it. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:25, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 03:07, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Variance1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Variance1|ts=03:07, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Jamie_McHugh}}
Good evening, thanks for your feedback. I am attempting to update for the Wikipedia page for DJ /Producer and label owner Jamie McHugh. Jamie featured on the biggest dance releases of 2008, 2009 and 2010 and regularly featured in the dance music press and featured as an artist on BBC Radio 1 and Kiss FM as well as DJing worldwide. He produced three commercial mix CDs and an artist album for Darren Emerson (Underworld) record label Underwater and mixed the Best of Underwater Records album. He also remixed the 50th release for CR2 records and was the first artist to release on their digital label. I have checked Wikipedia and artists with similiar or less notable profiles have been included therfore please advise how i can update this page. [[User:Variance1|Variance1]] ([[User talk:Variance1|talk]]) 03:07, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 04:53, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Mcashn ==
{{Lafc|username=Mcashn|ts=04:53, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Angular_Momentum_Problem}}
How can I edit my article title? [[User:Mcashn|Mcashn]] ([[User talk:Mcashn|talk]]) 04:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Mcashn|Mcashn]]: you can't; you achieve this by moving the draft to a different title. That said, you don't need to worry about the title at this stage, as if/when the draft is accepted it will be moved by the accepting reviewer to a new title in the main article space anyway. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 08:05, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Harry's Word ==
{{Lafc|username=Harry's Word|ts=08:05, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Chirakkara_Madhavankutty}}
This page contains information from various sources which are duly added about a person who has done many contributions to the art form called Kadhakali. This person went missing a decade ago but still people talk about him as a connoisseur of this art form. Please reconsider the details furnished and consider for publication. [[User:Harry's Word|Harry's Word]] ([[User talk:Harry's Word|talk]]) 08:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Harry's Word|Harry's Word]]: this draft has been reviewed and found wanting in terms of evidence of notability. That being the case, what is your question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:13, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::All the press reports supporting this person mentions that he is a notable person. Given that, I am confused on what more evidences of notability are lacking here? Please help me understand that. [[User:Harry's Word|Harry's Word]] ([[User talk:Harry's Word|talk]]) 08:42, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Harry's Word}} Notability is not 'important' or 'influential' or 'successful'. It's 'the extent to which something has been the topic of media coverage' the extent to which it has been noted.
:::That being said, Youtube is not a reliable source and should be removed. - [[User:Rich Smith|<kbd style="color: Red;">Rich</kbd>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rich Smith|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rich Smith|C]]|[[Special:EmailUser/Rich Smith|E-Mail]]</sup> 09:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 08:37, 7 November 2023 review of submission by 108.21.67.83 ==
{{Lafc|username=108.21.67.83|ts=08:37, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Georgios Dritsakos }}
I just want to ask a question. How do I submit to transfer the draft of Georgios Dritsakos and transfer to the articles in his biography? I want it to be approved and know how to learn it. [[Special:Contributions/108.21.67.83|108.21.67.83]] ([[User talk:108.21.67.83|talk]]) 08:37, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:This draft has various issues, but the main one is notability: of the three sources cited, one is a close primary one (his CV on the HAF website), one a passing mention, and the third isn't enough on its own to establish notability per [[WP:GNG]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 08:45, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Athinam7x ==
{{Lafc|username=Athinam7x|ts=08:45, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Mirza_Davoud_Khan_Meftah}}
Hello,
I do not understand how it states that this submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.
I did submit all the necessary sources which according to your rules are reliable.
= August 31 =
I am the granddaughter of Davoud Meftah, Athina Meftah (daughter of Soleiman Meftah), I wrote in my article a few extra pieces of information that are of course without specific sources, but my knowledge of my family.
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
Since it was the first time I worked on an article for Wikipedia, I did not have the experience and knowledge to understand the problem and resolve it.
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you would be so kind as to help me.
== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==
Thank you very much,
{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
Athina Meftah
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:Athinam7xColinFine|Athinam7xColinFine]] ([[User talk:Athinam7xColinFine|talk]]) 0809:4543, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 (UTC)
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:The "few extra pieces of information that are of course without specific sources, but my knowledge of my family." will need to be removed, the references need to be placed directly after the content they support. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 1021:1703, 731 NovemberAugust 20232025 review of submission by Gaurav Prateek ActorProfZacchaeus ==
{{Lafc|username=Gaurav Prateek ActorProfZacchaeus|ts=1021:1703, 731 NovemberAugust 20232025|draft=Draft:Gaurav_PrateekGUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
Hello,
Remove promotional language. This looks like an ad.
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
kindly help me for this. [[User:Gaurav Prateek Actor|Gaurav Prateek Actor]] ([[User talk:Gaurav Prateek Actor|talk]]) 10:17, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
:{{u|Gaurav Prateek}} Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. Your image has no copyright information provided; if you personally did not take the image of yourself or cannot demonstrate that you are the copyright holder(which would be unusual), you need to immediately request its deletion from Commons. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:23, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
== 11:30, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Catherine Lemieux ==
{{Lafc|username=Catherine Lemieux|ts=11:30, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Patrick Rampelotto}}
Hi,
My article was rejected because of unreliable sources for the second time.
I would like to understand why, since I used only independent established newspapers.
Thank you,
Catherine Lemieux
[[User:Catherine Lemieux|Catherine Lemieux]] ([[User talk:Catherine Lemieux|talk]]) 11:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Catherine Lemieux|Catherine Lemieux]]: the sources may well be reliable, but the draft isn't adequately supported by them, as there is unreferenced content, and some of the citations may not back up the information provided. By way of an example, the lead section cites only one source, but that source doesn't seem to mention the person's place or year of birth, or that they studied under Šípek... so if those pieces of information didn't come from the cited source, where ''did'' they come from? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:You’re right these infos come from other articles (4 other sources which are portraits of the artist from mainstream media) included in my first draft, actually reliable media sources but they included interviews so I had to delete all these references. I will review the draft again to make sure all infos are definitely in the article quoted. Thanks for your feedback. [[Special:Contributions/91.141.36.118|91.141.36.118]] ([[User talk:91.141.36.118|talk]]) 19:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
== 12:55, 7 November 2023 review of submission by 137GREAT ==
:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=137GREAT|ts=12:55, 7 November 2023|draft=Writing about uncoming Physicist }}
the person involved has generated a major impact on the physics world, and did not talk about himself. there are no online reliable sources to which it is possible to quote his backround and therefore the wiki page was created, the information in the artcile was the first time he shared information about himself. It was not accepted due to "reliability" How can there be sources if the guy is an unknown ? People know him by his name, and therefore the wiki was created. [[User:137GREAT|137GREAT]] ([[User talk:137GREAT|talk]]) 12:55, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
= September 1 =
:@[[User:137GREAT|137GREAT]]: simply put, Wikipedia articles should be written by summarising what reliable published sources have said about a subject. If no such sources exist, then it isn't possible to summarise them, and hence no article can be written. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:09, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:If you want to tell the world about this person, that is precisely what social media or a personal website are for. People must be known to merit articles, you can't create articles to generate notability. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:15, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 1405:1622, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by 73.161.190.187濵島 ==
{{Lafc|username=73.161.190.187濵島|ts=1405:1622, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Ice Hockey Skate Blade InjuriesYOHO_BREWING}}
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I see that this page was declined, so looking for more guidance. While the news recently of Adam Johnson's death may seem shocking, Injuries to the neck, and by extension other parts of the body, by Skate Blades during on ice activities, are actually quite common. Some of the players on the page have died due to their necks having been cut by skate blades, aside from the aforementioned Adam Johnson.
I hesitated to put if a player was deceased due to the injury, or for example how many stiches they needed. Perhaps this is needed information to obtain approval?
I also hesitated to put any additional information regarding neck guards, e.g. neck guards have been mandatory in Canada since the deaths of a few players, as I did not want to make this a page about neck guards and as well, I did not want to dive into what parts of the world require neck guards, but perhaps some information is necessary?
Unfortunately, skate injuries are not really similar to injuries in other sports, as well as injuries of other types in hockey. The page aims to show the prevalence and severity of these injuries, and not to draw comparisons to injuries of other types or other sports. We can say that surely some players have hard heart attacks while playing a sport, however it is hard to attribute that injury directly to the game. However, skate injuries are in no doubt literally caused by the equipment and players involved in those on ice activities.
Thank you in advance for your time and feedback. [[Special:Contributions/73.161.190.187|73.161.190.187]] ([[User talk:73.161.190.187|talk]]) 14:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:I feel like this would benefit from more context, significance, etc. Now it reads like a list of people injured playing sports – immediately I find myself asking "so what?" I think each entry needs more details: to say that John Doe got injured in 1996 is one thing; to say that John Doe, an experienced professional player got injured in the World Champs final in his neck so badly (without going into too much gore!) that it ended his career, and may have lost his team the medal, is probably a bit more useful. Also, if you could find some sources which discuss the problem of skate-related injuries, perhaps some statistics, etc., and maybe what the athletes, clubs and governing bodies are doing to deal with this problem, it would help flesh out the draft. (I think in saying that I'm concurring with the reviewer also.) HTH, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 1511:0014, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by DranutoshchakrabortyAmir Gull1 ==
{{Lafc|username=DranutoshchakrabortyAmir Gull1|ts=1511:0014, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=UserDraft:Dranutoshchakraborty/sandboxAmir_Gull_Timuri}}
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
Requesting to describe the exact fault.
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
Regards [[User:Dranutoshchakraborty|Dranutoshchakraborty]] ([[User talk:Dranutoshchakraborty|talk]]) 15:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
:@[[User:Dranutoshchakraborty|Dranutoshchakraborty]]: this draft has been rejected, and is awaiting deletion, as non-encyclopaedic. Wikipedia does not host how-to guides, promotional content, personal essays, polemic, nor does it promote pseudoscience, fringe theories and the like. This draft comes under more than one of those headings. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 16:33, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Delshad.j.c ==
{{Lafc|username=Delshad.j.c|ts=16:33, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:J.c.delshad}}
How to delete draft [[User:Delshad.j.c|Delshad.j.c]] ([[User talk:Delshad.j.c|talk]]) 16:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
:The draft was tagged as [[WP:G11|inappropriate advertising]], so I have deleted it for that reason. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 16:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Delshad.j.c|Delshad.j.c]]: you have no drafts to delete, your only draft has been deleted already. In any case, you cannot delete one as you're not an administrator, you can only request deletion. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 16:45, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Ivanhoe2012 ==
{{Lafc|username=Ivanhoe2012|ts=16:45, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:The_Society_of_Josef_Zezulka}}
Could anyone pls tell me what are "Some of these sources are WP:FRINGE"? I hoped there will be no issues like these cause Society of JZ is state registered spiritual-religious curch in Czech Rep. Its small church, yes, but it is. Thank you. [[User:Ivanhoe2012|Ivanhoe2012]] ([[User talk:Ivanhoe2012|talk]]) 16:45, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 17:03, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Orion's Toes ==
{{Lafc|username=Orion's Toes|ts=17:03, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:No_Nada_(Band)}}
Hi, I see the request for providing more sources and in depth coverage of the topic I attempted to publish, however there is unfortunately no more information to provide. This band is essentially lost media, and practically no information exists on the internet. Yet, somehow, with the limited information I had access to, I believe I managed to write a reasonably in depth article. Even though this topic is small, I portrayed it to the best of my ability and all of my sources are credible and relevant. I really hope that we are able to give the article another chance, because it can really help bring the history of this little known band, and important aspect of Vundabar's(the band that resulted from this one) history to light. Thank you for considering my article. [[User:Orion's Toes|Orion's Toes]] ([[User talk:Orion's Toes|talk]]) 17:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 15:54, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 89.101.68.143 ==
:Sources do not need to be online. If there are no more sources, there can't be an article about this band at this time. You may want to find [[WP:OUT|an alternative forum]] with less stringent requirements to tell the world about this band. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:37, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=89.101.68.143|ts=15:54, 1 September 2025|draft=User:Michael_miron123/sandbox}}
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 18:04, 7 November 2023 review of submission by SriSahi ==
{{Lafc|username=SriSahi|ts=18:04, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Disha_APP}}
can you please share the standard content example [[User:SriSahi|SriSahi]] ([[User talk:SriSahi|talk]]) 18:04, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 1816:2631, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by Gruppeder 9bMguenego.usparis ==
{{Lafc|username=Gruppeder 9bMguenego.usparis|ts=1816:2631, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Bernd_UlmannStröm_Paris}}
Hello! I'd like to know if my draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:Mguenego.usparis|Mguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:Mguenego.usparis|talk]]) 16:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi, what is the problem with the article? The person in question is by far the most influential person in their field of research.
The sources include articles from major German newspapers.
How can I fix the problem.
Many thanks in advance.
[[User:Gruppeder 9b|Gruppeder 9b]] ([[User talk:Gruppeder 9b|talk]]) 18:26, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:IfYou theyhave aresubmitted influential,the thendraft youand needit independentis [[WP:RS|reliablepending. sources]]The thatreviewer statewill thatleave andyou feedback if they describedo whatnot makesaccept themthe sodraft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 1916:3540, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 (UTC)
== 18:4122, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by WaffleHouseEmployeeChangingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=WaffleHouseEmployeeChangingwormhole|ts=18:4122, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Hotdog_WaterV-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
Im trying to get an article cleared for reveiw however there are not many credible sources for the topic (Hotdog Water). Do you have any suggestions as to what I should do for this? Thanks! [[User:WaffleHouseEmployee|WaffleHouseEmployee]] ([[User talk:WaffleHouseEmployee|talk]]) 18:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
:If there are insufficient [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to summarize, there cannot be an article about this topic. [[WP:AKON|No amount of editing]] can fix that. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
== 18:46, 7 November 2023 review of submission by ST-UTSCI ==
{{Lafc|username=ST-UTSCI|ts=18:46, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:Utah Scientific}}
Hello, I am seeking some guidance regarding the rejection of this draft. I believe I can address the concerns of notability (as written, the article notes events/product releases but not how those things affect the broader industry as a whole). However, if possible I would like some feedback on the sourcing.
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
I cited a number of digital archives of older printed journals and magazines and so I wonder if that is part of the issue? I tried, as much as possible, to draw style, source, and formatting examples from articles on companies of similar age/impact in the broadcasting industry. Any guidance would be appreciated. [[User:ST-UTSCI|ST-UTSCI]] ([[User talk:ST-UTSCI|talk]]) 18:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft was declined, not rejected- "rejected" has a specific meaning, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::Ah,*I myfixed mistake.your Iheader willso usethat your draft is linked to as intended; you need the correctfull termtitle inincluding the future"Draft:" portion. [[User:ST-UTSCI331dot|ST-UTSCI331dot]] ([[User talk:ST-UTSCI331dot|talk]]) 2018:5824, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 (UTC)
== 19:5011, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by Morganryan17Don Wanyama Off ==
{{Lafc|username=Morganryan17Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:5011, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Sean Murphy (author)List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello! I am attempting to update my draft page for Sean Murphy's biography. I have included a lot of links to things he has written, but there are also several sources where other writers have quoted him in notable media platforms. Can you help me to understand why these do not qualify as external sources that would make him notable? [[User:Morganryan17|Morganryan17]] ([[User talk:Morganryan17|talk]]) 19:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:ToIf furtheryou elaborate,have Iaddressed knowthe a few other authors, oneconcern of whichthe beingfirst [[Jenna Blum]]reviewer, who'syou pagemay isclick similar.the HowResubmit is her page notable but Sean Murphy's page is not?button. [[User:Morganryan17331dot|Morganryan17331dot]] ([[User talk:Morganryan17331dot|talk]]) 19:5728, 71 NovemberSeptember 20232025 (UTC)
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::{{u|Morganryan17}} I think you linked to the wrong article; I've fixed it with a link to your draft article.
:* [[WP:QUACK]] - SPI filed [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 19:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::We don't want just mere quotes from him- there needs to be independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage of him that discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about him, showing how he meets the definition of [[WP:NAUTHOR|a notable author]]. You've documented his media appearances and his work, but not said anything about how either makes him important/significant/influential.
::Beware in citing other articles that themselves could be problematic, which you would be unaware of. See [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
= September 2 =
== 20:26, 7 November 2023 review of submission by ItsRaihanArifin ==
{{Lafc|username=ItsRaihanArifin|ts=20:26, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:FICCI The Foreign Investors' Chamber of Commerce & Industry}}
I want to publish a article about organization
Hello
I want to to create about The Foreign Investors' Chamber of Commerce & Industry (FICCI) in Bangladesh.
If 'Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce & Industry(FICCI)' information is enlisted on wikipedia then why we are not able to published? please help me how i enlisted that? [[User:ItsRaihanArifin|ItsRaihanArifin]] ([[User talk:ItsRaihanArifin|talk]]) 20:26, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{u|ItsRaihanArifin}} I fixed your post to display a link to your draft(you had a statement which appeared as a link, which I moved so it doesn't).
:Beware in citing other similar articles to compare to yours- these too could be problematic and you would be unaware of this. See [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. If you want to use other articles as a model or example, use those [[WP:GOODARTICLE|classified as good articles]], which have been checked by the community.
:Your draft does not summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable organization]]. Not every organizaton merits a Wikipedia article, even within a field.
:If you are associated with this organization, that needs to be declared, please see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:31, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
== 2101:0600, 72 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by Demon King3333Asf132 ==
{{Lafc|username=Demon King3333Asf132|ts=2101:0600, 72 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Shrek_DayRao Mulpuri}}
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
MAKE IT ON WIKIPEDIA MY CULTURE MADE THIS HOLLADAY IT'S REAL [[User:Demon King3333|Demon King3333]] ([[User talk:Demon King3333|talk]]) 21:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 21:43, 7 November 2023 review of submission by Roc0ast3r ==
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Roc0ast3r|ts=21:43, 7 November 2023|draft=Draft:1,000 Blind People See For The First Time}}
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
The draft was originally declined for notability issues, then later was re-submitted by the original reviewer, and was declined again for [[WP:NOTNEWS]] (at least, I think?). I'll be honest, both comments, at least to me, aren't the most helpful, and I'm having a bit of trouble finding content that violates NOTNEWS. I'm not the most familiar with creating Wikipedia articles, and so I would like to be informed if any content violates that policy. Thanks! <span style="font-family:georgia,sans-serif">'''[[User:Roc0ast3r|<span style="color:#000">RO</span>]][[User talk:Roc0ast3r|<span style="color:red">NIN</span>]]'''</span> 21:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 2302:01, 72 NovemberSeptember 20232025 review of submission by BoohoolaneElesha1188 ==
{{Lafc|username=BoohoolaneElesha1188|ts=2302:01, 72 NovemberSeptember 20232025|draft=Draft:Jerry_HabibiCyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Greetings!
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I see that the article has been marked as needing more sources. Would you prefer that we remove information so that we can expedite approval? It is imperative that we populate more Middle Eastern / North African / Southwest Asian performer pages with notable credits as it is an under-supported community on Wikipedia (see: status of Iranian sub-communities) and in the Entertainment industry wholly.
== 04:04, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Goldface2009 ==
We do have some very solid sources from [[Letterboxd]], [[Hollywood Reporter]] (Deadline), and more. It is also important to keep in mind that [[The Persian Version]] is a struck project - because of this sourcing can be sparce until after the [[2023 SAG-AFTRA strike]].
{{Lafc|username=Goldface2009|ts=04:04, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Goldface2009/sandbox}}
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
We also have compared several existing pages for actors from different backgrounds / with similar resumés that pass the articles of creation and become published. Thankfully we are looking forward to ensuring this page will be adequately updated within all Wikipedia policies and furnished with even more sources. We just need to get the ship moving and send the page to publishing.
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
Thank you again for your note - please let us know what we can do to ensure the article gets published and we can continue to work on publishing articles on talent from this underrepresented community! [[User:Boohoolane|Boohoolane]] ([[User talk:Boohoolane|talk]]) 23:01, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== Requesting Review for Draft:Dhiman (Caste) ==
= November 8 =
Hello! I have created and submitted a draft article titled '''[[Draft:Dhiman (Caste)]]'''. I have done my best to follow Wikipedia's guidelines regarding notability, neutrality, and sourcing.
== 00:46, 8 November 2023 review of submission by Airborne84 ==
{{Lafc|username=Airborne84|ts=00:46, 8 November 2023|draft=Draft:Tactical Assault Group (game)}}
Hello. After multiple improvements, I believe that [[Draft:Tactical Assault Group (game)]] clearly meets the requirements in [[WP:GNG]]. The last reviewer who declined the submission, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%20talk:SunDawn&diff=prev&oldid=1183867466 reconsidered here], suggesting a resubmission. Perhaps someone here could review? Thank you. [[User:Airborne84|Airborne84]] ([[User talk:Airborne84|talk]]) 00:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if an editor could take a look and provide feedback or review it for publication. Thank you for your time and help!
== 01:18, 8 November 2023 review of submission by K-popguardian ==
{{Lafc|username=K-popguardian|ts=01:18, 8 November 2023|draft=Draft:Glitch_Productions}}
Glitch has recieved significantly more coverage in the wake of The Amazing Digital Circus, GlitchX, and Murder Drones. I'm doing my best to update the page right now but it doesn't look like I can submit it at the moment. Any chance someone could help resubmit this page in the future? [[User:K-popguardian|K-popguardian]] ([[User talk:K-popguardian|talk]]) 01:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]] ([[User talk:Indiauser1971|talk]]) 08:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 02:38, 8 November 2023 review of submission by Snowmentil ==
{{Lafc|username=Snowmentil|ts=02:38, 8 November 2023|draft=My draft was declined}}
The Wikipedia page that I made was declined, and I don’t know why. Could someone explain? [[User:Snowmentil|Snowmentil]] ([[User talk:Snowmentil|talk]]) 02:38, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
:You have submitted it for review and it is pending. Please be aware of the rules when editing about social groups in India- I will post them to your user talk page- probably you shouldn't have created this draft at all- but if it is accepted, you cannot edit it again until your account is extended-confirmed(30 days old with 500 edits) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft should adhere to wikipedia's guideline to notability.
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability [[User:Editing and contributing|Editing and contributing]] ([[User talk:Editing and contributing|talk]]) 04:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
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