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== 0203:2012, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by 211.26.109.79IanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=211.26.109.79IanResearch|ts=0203:2012, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=COVERSE (draft)Draft:ZigZagZurich}}
Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello,
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
I recently had an article rejected for reasons:
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 05:28, 28 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang ==
"This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject."
{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang|ts=05:28, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Winmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
And comment:
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Please read WP:FRINGE
== 06:40, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 109.252.122.222 ==
I am hoping that someone here can offer a specific example of what the editor is referring to, as I can find no examples in the text of any of the above. I am a professional writer, so can easily make the necessary amendments if I can have specific feedback as to what the editor considers to be a peacock term within the text, or what the editor considers to be a fringe theory, etc. Of course I read the pages linked in the editor's comments and as mentioned, cannot find any examples of them within my submitted text.
{{Lafc|username=109.252.122.222|ts=06:40, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Maxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you in advance for the assistance! This is my first time making a submission so I look foward to learning the ropes.
[[Special:Contributions/211.26.109.79|211.26.109.79]] ([[User talk:211.26.109.79|talk]]) 02:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
:{{courtesy link|Draft:COVERSE}}. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
:I suspect that what the reviewer means is that the article is written from the point of view of the subject. {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 03:14, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Wpnse ==
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Wpnse|ts=03:14, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:GRINDELMOTION_PICTURES}}
:Comments on your assessment table:
reject my articlaes [[User:Wpnse|Wpnse]] ([[User talk:Wpnse|talk]]) 03:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
== 0812:11, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by Egrabczewski78.150.201.201 ==
{{Lafc|username=Egrabczewski78.150.201.201|ts=0812:11, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Egrabczewski/Systems_GroupFusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Regarding my draft article on the Systems Group, could I have more information about why this article fails the "stictly independent" criterions please. [[User:Egrabczewski|Egrabczewski]] ([[User talk:Egrabczewski|talk]]) 08:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 08:46, 19 January 2024 review of submission by KEERTESH TIWARI ==
{{Lafc|username=KEERTESH TIWARI|ts=08:46, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Nitin Kapur}}
submission review is taking a lot of time. incorporated all the feedback received in the past. [[User:KEERTESH TIWARI|KEERTESH TIWARI]] ([[User talk:KEERTESH TIWARI|talk]]) 08:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
== 14:57, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Aras2025 ==
:draft available here: [[Draft:Nitin Kapur]] [[User:KEERTESH TIWARI|KEERTESH TIWARI]] ([[User talk:KEERTESH TIWARI|talk]]) 08:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Aras2025|ts=14:57, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Radio_Duhok}}
::Your draft is submitted and pending. As noted, "This may take 5 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,138 pending submissions waiting for review." [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
== 09:02, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Woopiness ==
{{Lafc|username=Woopiness|ts=09:02, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Park_Jeong_Woo}}
I can't edit in visual edit mode anymore. How can I make that possile again? [[User:Woopiness|Woopiness]] ([[User talk:Woopiness|talk]]) 09:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
:This board is specifically for asking questions about draft submissions. You might want to ask your question at [[WP:HD|the more general Help Desk]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
== 15:10, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Wnayans ==
{{Lafc|username=Wnayans|ts=15:10, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Car_Accident_Lawyer_Wiki}}
A Car Accident Lawyer Wiki website holds significant importance for several reasons:
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Information Access: It provides valuable information about legal services, resources, and expertise related to car accidents. Users can learn about their rights, the legal process, and how a lawyer can assist them. [7]
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Credibility and Trust: A well-designed website instills trust and credibility in potential clients. It showcases the lawyer's expertise, experience, testimonials, and case studies, which can help establish confidence in their abilities.
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
Accessibility: A website ensures accessibility 24/7, allowing individuals involved in accidents to seek immediate information and assistance regardless of the time or their ___location. [[User:Wnayans|Wnayans]] ([[User talk:Wnayans|talk]]) 15:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=16:50, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:We're not interested in helping your potential customers. This is an encyclopedia of [[WP:N|notable]] topics, not an advertising platform. The draft was rejected and now deleted. You must disclose your relationship with this website, see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a place for you to promote your website/business. This has been recreated by so many sock accounts over the last year and then gets swiftly deleted - Just stop already! You clearly have not read and understood the basic [[WP:GNG|General notability guideline]]. Stop wasting both our time and yours - this will never be accepted. [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 15:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 15:46, 19 January 2024 review of submission by KSuffolk ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=KSuffolk|ts=15:46, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:DeVorss_&_Company}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
I was wondering if I need to add more references to the wikipedia article. [[User:KSuffolk|KSuffolk]] ([[User talk:KSuffolk|talk]]) 15:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
:@[[User:KSuffolk|KSuffolk]]: well, given that large chunks of this draft (not yet 'article') are completely unreferenced, it sure would be nice to know where all this information is coming from? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
::Hmm. I thought so. Thanks for responding. [[User:KSuffolk|KSuffolk]] ([[User talk:KSuffolk|talk]]) 16:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 16:27, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Jaynu shah ==
{{Lafc|username=Jaynu shah|ts=16:27, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Jaynu_shah}}
Wrong details [[User:Jaynu shah|Jaynu shah]] ([[User talk:Jaynu shah|talk]]) 16:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:@[[User:Jaynu shah|Jaynu shah]]: that's not a question; did you have one in mind?
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
:This draft has been rejected and won't therefore be considered further.
Hello team,
:Please also see [[WP:AUTOBIO]] for why you shouldn't be writing about yourself in the first place. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 17:14, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Woiakl ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=Woiakl|ts=17:14, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:International_Union_of_Marine_Insurance}}
I:Also, addedit's independentbest sourcesto inavoid additionexternal tolinks in the organization'sbody of an websitearticle, butunless theynecessary. wereSee neglectedthe page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:WoiaklSungodtemple|WoiaklSungodtemple]] ([[User talk:WoiaklSungodtemple|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 1704:1424, 1929 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1719:1601, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by KahlurIndiaRavenFireblade ==
{{Lafc|username=KahlurIndiaRavenFireblade|ts=1719:1601, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Pankaj_ChandelJack_Logan}}
We givehave edited the fullarticle detailsalong ofwith Pankajnew, Chandelreliable, butindependent stillsources. you don't approved the article, pleasePlease help us whatimprove moreit. to add a profile in Wikipedia.Thank you! [[User:KahlurIndiaRavenFireblade|KahlurIndiaRavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:KahlurIndiaRavenFireblade|talk]]) 1719:1601, 1928 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:We don't have profiles here, not a single one. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of '''articles'''. If you want to write a profile, use social media or another website. Your draft has no inline references; see [[WP:REFB|referencing for beginners]]. You don't seem to have any independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage of this man, showing how he meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
= August 29 =
== 18:02, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Sczajic ==
{{Lafc|username=Sczajic|ts=18:02, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Marley Blonsky}}
My submission of an article/stub on Marley Blonsky was rejected on the basis that the references "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". I respectfully disagree. The subject has been profiled in well-known media outlets including CNN and Outside Magazine, demonstrating both specific and significant coverage, in published and reliable sources. How may I appeal this decision? [[User:Sczajic|Sczajic]] ([[User talk:Sczajic|talk]]) 18:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==
:@[[User:Sczajic|Sczajic]]: firstly, your draft was not rejected, which would mean the end of the road for it; only declined, which means you can resubmit it, once you've addressed the decline reason. For that reason, also, there is no need to 'appeal' anything, only to improve the draft further.
{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}
:We would typically need to see 3+ sources that meet the [[WP:GNG]] standard. Note that this excludes interviews, as well as articles that are clearly based on interviews even if they aren't necessarily formatted as such. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 18:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
::Thanks, this is helpful! I will expand and revise my draft by adding several additional references from national media outlets, of which there are no shortage. [[User:Sczajic|Sczajic]] ([[User talk:Sczajic|talk]]) 18:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:::The thing to remember, Sczajic, is that {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:46, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Hihydra ==
{{Lafc|username=Hihydra|ts=19:46, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:NeaChat}}
This product has a high reputation in mainland China. In this case, is it acceptable? [[User:Hihydra|Hihydra]] ([[User talk:Hihydra|talk]]) 19:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I have no connection with this company. I learned about this company when I attended an artificial intelligence training course organized by Microsoft. I was attracted by their concept of providing artificial intelligence-based education solutions to China and other countries and regions with unequal educational resources. And it is free for educators to use. I try to let more people know what they are doing because they are making a free contribution to education. I think there's a correlation between a product's popularity and how long it's been in development, and from what I understand, they've only been around for a short time. Before collecting Wikipedia information, I got in touch with friends in the education industry in China. Their products are very popular among teachers. [[User:Hihydra|Hihydra]] ([[User talk:Hihydra|talk]]) 21:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
::::{{u|Hihydra}}, everything that you wrote after you denied a connection to the company is of no interest on Wikipedia. All that matters here is the coverage that independent reliable sources devote to NeaChat, and accurately summarizing it. Nothing else. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 22:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, I found this, does it meet the source criteria?
:::::<nowiki>https://www.finsmes.com/2023/08/neachat-officially-joins-the-nvidia-inception-program.html</nowiki> [[User:Hihydra|Hihydra]] ([[User talk:Hihydra|talk]]) 23:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::Fraid not, Hihydra. That begins {{tq|Hong Kong-based Generative AI startup NeaChat announced today}} - in other words, it's from a press release.
::::::{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:01, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
== 20:30, 19 January 2024 review of submission by Preksha30 ==
{{Lafc|username=Preksha30|ts=20:30, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Rakesh_Khatri}}
Is this acceptable now for wiki page? [[User:Preksha30|Preksha30]] ([[User talk:Preksha30|talk]]) 20:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:The draft was rejected as an article(not a "page"), meaning that it will not be considered further. If something has fundamentally changed since the last review, such as new sources the reviewer did not consider, you should first appeal to the last reviewer directly. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
== 21:43, 19 January 2024 review of submission by HalloKurdish ==
:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=HalloKurdish|ts=21:43, 19 January 2024|draft=Draft:Qushtapa_District}}
My draft’s references are all government sources I don’t know why it got declined [[User:HalloKurdish|HalloKurdish]] ([[User talk:HalloKurdish|talk]]) 21:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
:TheYouTube, submissionpress lacksreleases secondaryand sourcesinterviews are fromnot reliable independent media publicationssources. [[User:Eternal ShadowTheroadislong|<span style="color:red">Eternal Shadow</span>Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Eternal ShadowTheroadislong|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>talk]]) 0117:1956, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
== 11:32, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Newacctowork ==
{{Lafc|username=Newacctowork|ts=11:32, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Trinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
= January 20 =
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0012:5500, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by AdamplevinsonGeorgeHav ==
{{Lafc|username=AdamplevinsonGeorgeHav|ts=0012:5500, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:John_P._KaminskiFlightSimExpo}}
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I am being told that by a reviewer that we should only cite 5-7 of Kaminski's book? Why?
I checked the Wikipedia pages for two of my other favorite historians: Richard Brookhiser and Joseph Ellis. Brookhiser's page lists 17 books. Ellis' page lists 14 books.
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I would be happy to add links to all of Kaminski's books, in addition to listing them. Would this be worthwhile? We could also add the ISBN number, as is the case for other historians?
::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::I would talk much less about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about it. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==
Thanks [[User:Adamplevinson|Adamplevinson]] ([[User talk:Adamplevinson|talk]]) 00:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
:The reviewer is referring to [[WP:THREE]]. Only the three best sources should be added to an article for each claim. This is also true for the external links. [[User:Eternal Shadow|<span style="color:red">Eternal Shadow</span>]] [[User talk:Eternal Shadow|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] 01:18, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
:@[[User:Adamplevinson|Adamplevinson]]: because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and articles are meant to provide summarised information about a subject, in this case highlights of their noteworthy output, not a comprehensive catalogue of everything they ever wrote. A hypothetical point, but: wouldn't you agree that it's clearer and more effective to list the 2-3 works someone is famous for, and mention that they also wrote 30+ others, rather than list all 38 works, among which the 2-3 notable ones get lost? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0117:2625, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by RaulitoyFurretSuperFan ==
{{Lafc|username=RaulitoyFurretSuperFan|ts=0117:2625, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Beta_Gamma_RhoGreatest_Idol}}
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
Any help on how this page approve [[User:Raulitoy|Raulitoy]] ([[User talk:Raulitoy|talk]]) 01:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
:@[[User:Raulitoy|Raulitoy]]: as it says in the decline notice, you need to provide significant coverage, directly of the subject, in multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. (You should also see [[WP:REFB]] for advice on referencing.) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 06:09, 20 January 2024 review of submission by Youprayteas ==
{{Lafc|username=Youprayteas|ts=06:09, 20 January 2024|draft=Draft:Caddebostan}}
I have seen very little villages and towns with absloutely no significancy and only one reference having articles, why is it not possible for my article which has four sources and plenty of information about the neighborhood to be accepted? It makes no sense to me. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 06:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
:@[[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]]: never mind what other articles you may have seen, that's not how we assess new drafts (see [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]]). The relevant notability guideline here is [[WP:GEOLAND]], and judging by the fact that you describe this (somewhat opaquely) as a 'neighbourhood', it seems the 2nd bullet point applies. That tells you what you need to do to demonstrate notability. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:PS: The infoboxBillboard classifiesmight thisbe reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a 'municipality'listing, butand I don't think that'sit correct;would presumablycount Kadıköyas isa the[[WP:secondary actualsource|secondary municipality?source]] either. We really need independent, in--depth reviews. [[User:DoubleGrazingColinFine|DoubleGrazingColinFine]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazingColinFine|talk]]) 0619:2126, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
::I fixed this issue. I understand that I must not compare my article with others, but how is it possible that articles with very limited references and villages with no significancy ([[Beyyazı]], [[Işıklar, Çanakkale|Işıklar]], [[Yağcılar, Çanakkale|Yağcılar]], [[Yeşilyurt, Çay|Yeşilyurt]] and MANY MANY more, perhaps over 200 articles like this) can be accepted? Who accepted these and when and why not mine? [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 06:39, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]]: there are 6.7m+ articles in the English-language Wikipedia, and they came about in many different ways. Not every article was 'accepted': some are so old that they pre-date the AfC review process entirely; others may have been published by users with sufficient permissions to publish directly; others still may have simply slipped through the proverbial net.
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
:::If you have found articles that you don't think meet our notability guidelines, you're welcome to improve them, or if this cannot be done, initiate deletion proceedings.
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Also worth noting that what you describe as "significancy" may not necessarily translate to [[WP:notability|notability]] (Wikipedia's core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia), or vice versa. Again, I would refer you to [[WP:GEOLAND]], which sets out the applicable standard; or alternatively to [[WP:GNG]], which applies to pretty much any topic.
:::HTH, --Count* [[User:DoubleGrazingFurretSuperFan|DoubleGrazingFurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazingFurretSuperFan|talk]]) 0720:1119, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::I submitted my draft again. I added government sources for the population and the neighborhood classifications. Hopefully this time it will be accepted but if not I will keep improving it until it does. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 07:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
*Noting also this conversation on my Talk. [[User_talk:Star_Mississippi#I_have_fixed_the_issues_you_told_me]]. It may just be a case of [[WP:NOPAGE]]. <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#a117f2;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#df00fe;">Mississippi</span>]]</span> 16:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:Why can’t it be just a [[Wikipedia:Permastub|WP:PERMA]]? [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 18:28, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*::Because they still must meet notability guidelines, which the draft does not as of yet.
*::Please read the advice you have been given here, on my Talk and in the draft to either improve the article (and re-submit it) or edit the mainspace. <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#a117f2;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#df00fe;">Mississippi</span>]]</span> 19:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::I have seven sources, 3 of them are government sources for population and division inside of Turkey. The other 4 are travel blogs and news sites “neutral about the topic”. I gave information about 4 popular places in the neighborhood. 7 sources are well enough for a stub article which its purpose is to be a stub anyway. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 19:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*::::Neither government sources nor travel blogs are appropriate sources.
*::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] and I have linked the information that you need to read and @[[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] provided information when they declined your draft as well. You are welcome to resubmit the draft, but '''please''' read [[WP:NOPAGE]], [[WP:SIRS]] (which applies beyond organizations) and [[WP:GEOLAND]] to understand the issues otherwise it's very likely that another editor will also decline the draft. Rather than focusing on a new article, which is one of the hardest things, you can edit reliably sourced information to the main article. I'm not sure what your resistance is. <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#a117f2;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#df00fe;">Mississippi</span>]]</span> 19:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::::I have read all three. WP:GEOLAND says if it is populated, it is significant. Caddebostan has a population of over 21000. I'm pretty tired of this conversation though and I didn't see anything about travel blogs (second-hand independent sources). The government resources are purely for the population and legality of the neighborhood. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 06:00, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*::::::@[[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]]: with respect, you may have ''read'' GEOLAND, but it's not clear that you've ''understood'' it. It clearly says that populated places <u>with</u> legal recognition are ''typically presumed'' (=/= are) notable; whereas those <u>without</u> legal recognition need to satisfy [[WP:GNG]]. The latter is expressly stated to include '''unofficial neighborhoods''', which yours may (or may not – TBD) be. You can't just cherry-pick those bits of the guideline that suit your purposes, you need to consider every aspect of them. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::I have 15 sources, some blogs, some news sites, some government sources now. I have improved my article drastically as I said. I literally added the government database for neighborhoods and districts. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 08:57, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::PS: see [[Template:Kadıköy District]] [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 09:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::::Hi, I improved my article drastically. Is it possible for you to give feedback? [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 07:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*::::::I copy edited it lightly. Your English is not at all a problem, those were just stylistic for what we'd say as native speakers. Someone will review in due time. <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#a117f2;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#df00fe;">Mississippi</span>]]</span> 15:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::Thank you for your help. Are the issues resolved, by the way? I tried to add as many sources as I could find that, are at some level, reliable. I also added a lot of extra information about the neighborhood to show that it is notable. I sourced some databases that classify Caddebostan as a neighborhood. [[User:Youprayteas|Youprayteas]] ([[User talk:Youprayteas|talk]]) 15:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== 0818:0702, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by Far mousaJetsonesque ==
{{Lafc|username=Far mousaJetsonesque|ts=0818:0702, 2029 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:CartlowSam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
Hi, why my post has been declined due to tone, while this page with same stone and structure exists on wiki: [[Noon (company)]]. Kindly suggest what other data I need to provide to add Cartlow to Wiki knowledgebase [[User:Far mousa|Far mousa]] ([[User talk:Far mousa|talk]]) 08:07, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
:Your draft is blatant advertising, see [[WP:OSE|other crap exists]] and [[WP:SOLUTIONS]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Far mousa}} Also note that the Noon article has been nominated for deletion, it is almost certainly a poor example to use. Are you employed by Cartlow? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|Far mousa}}, Wikipedia is not a [[knowledge base]]. It is an [[encyclopedia]], a significantly different concept. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 08:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
== 11:12, 20 January 2024 review of submission by Ferdinando at Transfeero ==
{{Lafc|username=Ferdinando at Transfeero|ts=11:12, 20 January 2024|draft=Draft:Transfeero}}
Dear Team,
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
I request help on getting this draft approved: I am writing the article as I've been tasked this (I am currently employed in the company)
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm trying to follow the guidelines as best as I am able, however the latest draft was rejected due to lack of notability.
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
May you be help with that?
= August 30 =
The company is legit and currently existing and in business, however there are not many independent sources talking about us. [[User:Ferdinando at Transfeero|Ferdinando at Transfeero]] ([[User talk:Ferdinando at Transfeero|talk]]) 11:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
:The draft has been deleted as "unambiguous advertising or promotion". Please read [[WP:BOSS]], and show it to your boss. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
== 11:22, 20 January 2024 review of submission by Harry XBastien ==
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
{{Lafc|username=Harry XBastien|ts=11:22, 20 January 2024|draft=Draft:Balikatin_Basketball_Team}}
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
requesting for a Feedbaack [[User:Harry XBastien|Harry XBastien]] ([[User talk:Harry XBastien|talk]]) 11:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
:Your draft does not have a single cited source. It cannot be accepted as a Wikipedia article in this form.
Thanks very much.
:*'''First''' find sources, which are [[WP:RS|reliably published]], [[WP:IS|completely unconnected with the team]], and contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]] of the team.
:* If you can't find these, then you'll know that the team does not meet Wikiepdia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]], and not to spend any more time on it.
:* If you can, write an article based on what those sources say. You can add a little uncontroversial factual information from non-independent sources (which you should still cite), but the bulk of the article shoud be a summary of what those indpendent commentators have published.
:[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 14:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 14:23, 20 January 2024 review of submission by Harry XBastien ==
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Harry XBastien|ts=14:23, 20 January 2024|draft=Draft:Balikatin_Basketball_Team}}
how can I publish an article without references or source because there's no article about the article? and I want to create this page so there can be an article or future references about the page? [[User:Harry XBastien|Harry XBastien]] ([[User talk:Harry XBastien|talk]]) 14:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
:@[[User:Harry XBastien|Harry XBastien]] If there are no sources, you cannot create the article. No way out of that [[User:Mach61|Mach61]] ([[User talk:Mach61|talk]]) 16:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 21:15, 20 January 2024 review of submission by Holyhootenany ==
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Holyhootenany|ts=21:15, 20 January 2024|draft=User:Holyhootenany/sandbox}}
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
I would like help citing an episode of a tv show.
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Holyhootenany|Holyhootenany]] ([[User talk:Holyhootenany|talk]]) 21:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==
= January 21 =
{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 06:23, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Vamshikadiyam ==
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Vamshikadiyam|ts=06:23, 21 January 2024|draft=Draft:Maanas_Nagulapalli}}
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
i'm new to wikipedia.I want to create wikipedia for an actor [[User:Vamshikadiyam|Vamshikadiyam]] ([[User talk:Vamshikadiyam|talk]]) 06:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==
:@[[User:Vamshikadiyam|Vamshikadiyam]]: okay.. that's not a question, though.
{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
:You'll need to demonstrate that the person is notable either per [[WP:NACTOR]] or [[WP:GNG]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article thatnot icurrently mentionedsubmitted for review" box came up, aboveand plzI makedon't itknow livewhat to maindo spacenext. [[User:VamshikadiyamVasyaPetrovna|VamshikadiyamVasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VamshikadiyamVasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 0618:4201, 2230 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1218:1227, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by FrankywrightTanja0615 ==
{{Lafc|username=FrankywrightTanja0615|ts=1218:1227, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Franklin_UgwuMehmed_Begić}}
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
I am new to publishing my Biography on Wikipedia. I tried to include links to help search some of the information I included but it seems the links are not accepted.
Please can you tell me what I need to add or remove to help my page go online [[User:Frankywright|Frankywright]] ([[User talk:Frankywright|talk]]) 12:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Frankywright}} Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the subject, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:N|notability]]- like [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. Put another way, we don't want to know what you say is important about yourself, we want to know what others unaffiliated with you say is important about you.
:You have no sources in your draft at all, and seems to read like a social media-style page. Names of minor children are not included in articles about a person unless those children themselves merit articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
::How does someone like me with very little online presence publish my Biography? Is it only for celebrities? As a normal everyday person without much happening in my public life, I do not have many places online I can point to as sources. Please can you advise how I can resolve this? I am only trying to create a presence online. [[User:Frankywright|Frankywright]] ([[User talk:Frankywright|talk]]) 13:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|Frankywright}} Please read the [[WP:5P|Five Pillars of Wikipedia]]. You misunderstand what it is we do here on Wikipedia. This is not social media where people tell about themselves, and we are not concerned with the "online presence" of anyone. If you are a "normal, everyday person", it is doubtful that you merit a Wikipedia article. The vast majority of the 8 billion people on this planet do not; I certainly do not. If independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] do not on their own write about you and tell what makes you important, you do not merit a Wikipedia article. I don't mean to sound mean, I'm just trying to explain this to you clearly. I suggest that you focus your efforts on actual social media websites, like Facebook/LinkedIn/or others, or create a personal website to tell the world about yourself. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== 1321:3231, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by PhyominsanofficialaccountMatthewbyver ==
{{Lafc|username=PhyominsanofficialaccountMatthewbyver|ts=1321:3231, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:AarwahthaMatthew_Byver}}
My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Why did you enter? [[User:Phyominsanofficialaccount|Phyominsanofficialaccount]] ([[User talk:Phyominsanofficialaccount|talk]]) 13:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't know what you are asking, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1621:1140, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by Harmanderr69.255.14.163 ==
{{Lafc|username=Harmanderr69.255.14.163|ts=1621:1140, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=User:HarmanderrWiseman2025/sandbox}}
Whyhas my articleartilce is gettingbeen rejected it is about very famous book Manipulated lives, please check it again? [[UserSpecial:HarmanderrContributions/69.255.14.163|Harmanderr69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:Harmanderr69.255.14.163|talk]]) 1621:1140, 2130 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:Looks like you are trying to promote your own book largely using Amazon as a reference, that is not an independent source. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 16:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:No it is not a "very famous book". It was self published last November with no indication of anyone noticing hence your here trying to promote it and yourself. The 'article' is pure puff and promotion with zero independent sources. [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 17:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
== 16:35, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Mikas1990 ==
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Mikas1990|ts=16:35, 21 January 2024|draft=Draft:2024_Vissel_Kobe_season}}
J.league [[User:Mikas1990|Mikas1990]] ([[User talk:Mikas1990|talk]]) 16:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
= August 31 =
:User blocked. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 16:51, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== 1709:0118, 2131 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by TNM101Txcraig75 ==
{{Lafc|username=TNM101Txcraig75|ts=1709:0118, 2131 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:JSS International SchoolDirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
Can someone please help to find reliable sources for this article? [[User:TNM101|TNM101]] ([[User talk:TNM101|talk]]) 17:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello. It is unlikely that anybody here will be willing to spend time looking for sources for your draft. You are the one who wants to create the article, so it is your job to find the sources. If you have looked for and failed to find the sources, it is very likely that the school does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:NSCHOOL|notability]], and that any further time you (or anybody else) spend on the draft will be time wasted. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== 1819:1253, 2131 JanuaryAugust 20242025 review of submission by InterstellaradrianThilio ==
{{Lafc|username=InterstellaradrianThilio|ts=1819:1253, 2131 JanuaryAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Boston Proper, LLCAY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
Warmest greetings! I'm preparing to submit an updated draft for review. I went through the process of improving the copy to reach a neutral state but would certainly appreciate a second opinion on whether I need to add anything else here to improve the approval odds. I did my best in discovering as many references as I could here and it feels like a worthy entry. But as this is my first full page, confrimation is apprecaited and I'd like to get this one completed before starting on other pages. Thank you in advance. [[User:Interstellaradrian|Interstellaradrian]] ([[User talk:Interstellaradrian|talk]]) 18:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:You need to submit in order to get a review, but note that their own website is not an independent source neither are press releases. The leadership and logo sections are of little interest to Wikipedia. Be sure to declare any conflict of interest. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 18:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
== 18:19, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Aiinceku ==
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Aiinceku|ts=18:19, 21 January 2024|draft=Draft:Amir_Tsarfati}}
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
What is required to submit this for review? [[User:Aiinceku|Aiinceku]] ([[User talk:Aiinceku|talk]]) 18:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==
:@[[User:Aiinceku|Aiinceku]] Nothing, as I rejected it. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:32, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
:An article on Tsarfati was deleted last month because sufficient [[WP:42|independent reliable sources]] did not exist to base an article on: see [[WP:Articles for deletion/Amir Tsarfati]]. Only once several people, wholly unconnected with Tsarfati, have chosen to write at length about him, and been published in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] will it be possible for anybody to write an acceptable Wikipedia article about him. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
== 19:40, 21 January 2024 review of submission by Trumpetguy19 ==
{{Lafc|username=Trumpetguy19|ts=19:40, 21 January 2024|draft=Draft:The_Pythodd_Room}}
To whom it may concern, I replied to Johannes's decline comment about unreliable sources, but I'd like to know which sources specifically seem to violate the reliable sourcing policy. I'm a fairly new editor so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! [[User:Trumpetguy19|Trumpetguy19]] ([[User talk:Trumpetguy19|talk]]) 19:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
:@[[User:Trumpetguy19|Trumpetguy19]]: user-generated content is not considered reliable, as anyone can say pretty much anything they want; in the case of your draft, this means Weebly, Wordpress, Vimeo, YouTube (unless it's an unedited video published directly by a reliable source), and Facebook. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hi DoubleGrazing. Thanks for the feedback. I’ll go back in and remove the self-published stuff. Quick question though, how do I show that a YouTube video is unedited from a reliable source? Also one of the Wordpress sources is an official website of the local history division of the local library in Rochester. Is it still unreliable due to source type regardless of author? [[User:Trumpetguy19|Trumpetguy19]] ([[User talk:Trumpetguy19|talk]]) 13:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[User:Trumpetguy19|Trumpetguy19]]. YouTube content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organisation, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability. The key thing to ask is "Does this account have editorial oversight?".
:::The Wordpress blog is fine, as it is coming from the subject matter expert (the Library).
:::I would just add you should only have one or two external links as per [[WP:EXTERNAL]]. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Trumpetguy19|Trumpetguy19]]: if the YouTube video is published on the official channel of a reliable source (especially the original one), we can assume it to be legit; anything else, I'd be cautious, as it's far too easy for anyone to 'doctor' the content.
:::As for the WordPress blog, it may well be the "official website" of an organisation, but it is still a blog, ie. a primary source with almost certainly very little or no editorial control. It's not that you categorically ''cannot'' cite a source like that, but you should certainly keep such citations to a minimum. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:47, 21 January 2024 review of submission by FMurano ==
{{Lafc|username=FMurano|ts=19:47, 21 January 2024|draft=Draft:Clara_Mattei}}
my recent submission was rejected because the lack of reliable sources. In case of a biography of a living person what is a reliable source other than his/her personal page and CV? [[User:FMurano|FMurano]] ([[User talk:FMurano|talk]]) 19:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
:{{HD/WINI}}
:YouThat's needhow toyou findavoid sourcesyour whollydrafts unconnectedbeing with the subjectdeclined. ~[[User:ColinFineAnachronist|ColinFineAnachronist]] <small>([[User talk:ColinFineAnachronist|talk]])</small> 2021:2415, 2131 JanuaryAugust 20242025 (UTC)
= JanuarySeptember 221 =
== 0405:2022, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by WHYCANTIFINEANAME濵島 ==
{{Lafc|username=WHYCANTIFINEANAME濵島|ts=0405:2022, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:West AirYOHO_BREWING}}
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I made a article about a small spotify artist however it was been not approved I don't understand the problem here [[User:WHYCANTIFINEANAME|WHYCANTIFINEANAME]] ([[User talk:WHYCANTIFINEANAME|talk]]) 04:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:WHYCANTIFINEANAME|WHYCANTIFINEANAME]]: TBH, this could have just as well been rejected outright, as there is no indication that the subject is the least bit [[WP:notable|notable]], which is a core requirement for inclusion in Wikipedia. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
== 0511:3514, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by Yanjia00Amir Gull1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Yanjia00Amir Gull1|ts=0511:3514, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:You_YangAmir_Gull_Timuri}}
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
How can I change the draft article title? Should I copy the content to a new draft page and delete the original one? [[User:Yanjia00|Yanjia00]] ([[User talk:Yanjia00|talk]]) 05:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
:@[[User:Yanjia00|Yanjia00]]: you don't need to worry about the title at this stage, if/when the draft is accepted, it will be moved to its new title anyway. That said, to what do you want to change the title, and why? (I can add a comment to the draft to this effect.)
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
:And no, you very much should ''not'' copypaste the content into a new draft, as that creates all sorts of problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::I want to keep the content and change the title to "Yang You (computer scientist)" so that the name will be in consist with the content. [[User:Yanjia00|Yanjia00]] ([[User talk:Yanjia00|talk]]) 02:44, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 08:54, 22 January 2024 review of submission by Klavensky kly ==
{{Lafc|username=Klavensky kly|ts=08:54, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Wheenkly_klay_(soccer)}}
I’m a soccer player who as play upsl pls make my page public [[User:Klavensky kly|Klavensky kly]] ([[User talk:Klavensky kly|talk]]) 08:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
:@[[User:Klavensky kly|Klavensky kly]]: I've rejected this draft, since there was no sign of notability, and very little evidence of improvement either.
:To say nothing of the fact that you should not be writing about yourself in the first place; see [[WP:AUTOBIO]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 10:10, 22 January 2024 review of submission by Musician classic ==
{{Lafc|username=Musician classic|ts=10:10, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Pratik_Agnihotri}}
How to add biography [[User:Musician classic|Musician classic]] ([[User talk:Musician classic|talk]]) 10:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:You cannot, @[[User:Musician classic|Musician classic]], as the draft has now been rejected.Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcneqcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 1015:4238, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 (UTC)
== 1015:1154, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by Alamsher36989.101.68.143 ==
{{Lafc|username=Alamsher36989.101.68.143|ts=1015:1154, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=DraftUser:Kokikhel katyakhelMichael_miron123/sandbox}}
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
why my article has been declined ?
i put the orignal detailes right there but dont know why they declined it ? [[User:Alamsher369|Alamsher369]] ([[User talk:Alamsher369|talk]]) 10:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Alamsher369}} I fixed your post to provide a link to the draft as intended. Did you see the messages left by reviewers? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
::yes they left a message and it looks like this
::{Hello, Alamsher369! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk)}. please help me to publish my first article [[User:Alamsher369|Alamsher369]] ([[User talk:Alamsher369|talk]]) 10:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:::In writing a Wikipedia article, your very first task is to find several [[WP:42|reliable indepednent sources]] which talk about the subject in detail. If you can find these, then your next task is to write an article which summarises what these sources say. Nothing else should go into an article.
:::If you cannot find such sources, then there is no point in writing so much as a single word of an article, because any further effort will be wasted, since an article will never be accepted without such sources. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 10:13, 22 January 2024 review of submission by Vamshikadiyam ==
{{Lafc|username=Vamshikadiyam|ts=10:13, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Maanas_Nagulapalli}}
hi i'm new to wikipedia.Above draft artice i mentioned was an telugu actor i tried to submit this article but i was rejected any wikipedia experts elp me with this.Plz help me by submitting tis page for review correctly [[User:Vamshikadiyam|Vamshikadiyam]] ([[User talk:Vamshikadiyam|talk]]) 10:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
== 16:31, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Mguenego.usparis ==
:The draft was only declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning here, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means it may be resubmitted.
{{Lafc|username=Mguenego.usparis|ts=16:31, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Ström_Paris}}
:Please tell how you know this actor, since you took his picture and he posed for you.
:PleaseHello! seeI'd thelike messagesto leftknow byif reviewersmy draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:331dotMguenego.usparis|331dotMguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:331dotMguenego.usparis|talk]]) 1016:2131, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 (UTC)
:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 11:46, 22 January 2024 review of submission by DanieleGamba1995 ==
{{Lafc|username=DanieleGamba1995|ts=11:46, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Mestre Sapo}}
Advice for improvement of draft
Dear members of the teahouse community, Hi,
I'm seeking advice for improving my draft [[Draft:Mestre Sapo]], since it has been suggested that it might benefit from cleanup. I've been consulting the directives for correct referencing, and I'm quite satisfied by the current state, yet there might be something I'm missing, so I'm open to any type of advice that you might have!
Cheers,
Daniele [[User:DanieleGamba1995|DanieleGamba1995]] ([[User talk:DanieleGamba1995|talk]]) 11:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:I fixed the format of your post to provide a link to your draft in the header. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:22, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
== 1718:0222, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by Thruball GameChangingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=Thruball GameChangingwormhole|ts=1718:0222, 221 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Thruball_Game/sandboxV-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
How do I make this game Thruball more notable? [[User:Thruball Game|Thruball Game]] ([[User talk:Thruball Game|talk]]) 17:02, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
:@[[User:Thruball Game|Thruball Game]]: the subject either is notable, or isn't; you can't fathom notability out of thin air. Also, Wikipedia does not publish 'how-to' guides, which this seems to be. Besides which, this draft has been rejected, and won't therefore be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 17:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
== 20:01, 22 January 2024 review of submission by 77.98.209.180 ==
{{Lafc|username=77.98.209.180|ts=20:01, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Alessandro_Sarlas}}
Hi
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Been trying to do what is requested. Can you please help me? I am Pavlos Sarlas; my son is Alessandro Sarlas and he is 10 years old racing driver making his career in karts and has some accolades already. So I am trying to set up his Wikipedia page to help for his future career in motorsport. [[Special:Contributions/77.98.209.180|77.98.209.180]] ([[User talk:77.98.209.180|talk]]) 20:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Hi Pavlos.
*I fixed your header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is for. We are an encyclopaedia of topics that are ''already'' notable. It is forbidden to use Wikipedia to promote (or help a future career) a person. If your son becomes notable in the future then a volunteer editor may write about him. For now, however, the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further.
:Let me know if you have any questions. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
== 21:20, 22 January 2024 review of submission by Ankaps ==
{{Lafc|username=Ankaps|ts=21:20, 22 January 2024|draft=Draft:Kaspi_Unique}}
why my articles got rejected please elaborate [[User:Ankaps|Ankaps]] ([[User talk:Ankaps|talk]]) 21:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
:Your draft is pure promotion, and will shortly be deleted. Please read [[WP:NOTPROMO]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
= January 23 =
== 03:56, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Isntabelle ==
{{Lafc|username=Isntabelle|ts=03:56, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Greenbelt_2_station}}
I can't get the page published. I can't find anything wrong with the sources I'm using and there are other pages of unreleased metro stations that are published so I'm confused on what I'm doing wrong. [[User:Isntabelle|Isntabelle]] ([[User talk:Isntabelle|talk]]) 03:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Isntabelle|Isntabelle]]: forget any other articles you may have seen; we don't assess drafts by comparison to existing articles, but instead to existing policies and guidelines. (See [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]].)
:Your draft cites only two sources, neither of which even mentions 'Greenbelt 2'. We need to see significant coverage of the subject, in multiple (3+) secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the subject.
:Please also see [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] about speculation on future events. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 08:11, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Jasmine767 ==
{{Lafc|username=Jasmine767|ts=08:11, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Rashid_Ali_Ghazipuri}}
please help me to improve the article and update to live [[User:Jasmine767|Jasmine767]] ([[User talk:Jasmine767|talk]]) 08:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jasmine767|Jasmine767]]: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 08:59, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Bluebird179 ==
{{Lafc|username=Bluebird179|ts=08:59, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Robert Bittlestone}}
Please tell me why my article was turned down? I haven't finished it but have other people that know more that want to contribute so Ithought we would do it grafually. Is there something specific I need to change? [[User:Bluebird179|Bluebird179]] ([[User talk:Bluebird179|talk]]) 08:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bluebird179|Bluebird179]]: your draft was declined because it is completely unreferenced (and, by extension of that, lacks any evidence of notability).
:If you hadn't finished, why did you submit it for review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:Others are welcome to contribute to your draft, you may just need to tell them the title so they can find it. Content is not based on personal knowledge, but on what is documented in reliable sources that can be [[WP:V|verified]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:Like many people who are unfamiliar with how Wikipedia works, you have written your draft [[WP:BACKWARDS|BACKWARDS]]. The absolutely '''first''' task in writing an article is to find [[WP:SIGCOV|substantial]], [[WP:RS|reliable]], [[WP:IS|independent]] sources about the subject. Then if you can't find any, you'll know not to spend any more time on this project.
:If you can find sources, then the next task is to forget what you know about the subject and write a summary of what those sources say. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 10:51, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio ==
{{Lafc|username=Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio|ts=10:51, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Baris_Tursun_2}}
As I have, as requested, merged two submissions, I ask for the deletion or withdrawal of "Draft:Baris_Tursun_2" as requested. Instead, please continue to review the draft "Draft:Baris Tursun". This draft contains all the corrections you requested.
Can I request this at this point or do I need to take further action? [[User:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio|Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio]] ([[User talk:Gitte bei Medienservice UHH Bio|talk]]) 10:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 12:18, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Bradley112358 ==
{{Lafc|username=Bradley112358|ts=12:18, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:2024_F3J_World_Championship_-_Norway}}
Added references; do we need anything to publish the page? [[User:Bradley112358|Bradley112358]] ([[User talk:Bradley112358|talk]]) 12:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bradley112358|Bradley112358]]: the links listed in the 'References' section aren't really references, they're just links to external websites (and their home pages, at that, which is not very useful). Referencing needs to support the information in the article/draft, ie. when you make a statement, you hang onto it a reference to a specific source that actually verifies what you've said.
:Also, please get into the habit of using the preferred method of inline citations and footnotes, as explained in [[WP:ILC]]. See [[WP:REFB]] for advice.
:And finally, please do not include inline external links in the body text, as this is not allowed. Convert these to citations instead, where relevant. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::Rookie, here.
::Can you help me patch it up, or suggest a more active helper?
::The information is a subject compilation that was penned by collecting of all the source material found on those sites. [[Special:Contributions/75.97.241.141|75.97.241.141]] ([[User talk:75.97.241.141|talk]]) 12:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I do not need to be the author, no pride here. [[Special:Contributions/75.97.241.141|75.97.241.141]] ([[User talk:75.97.241.141|talk]]) 12:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Hi @[[User:Bradley112358|Bradley112358]] / IP editor. Please follow the tutorial at [[WP:INTREFVE]] which you might find easier to follow. It should be a fairly simple process of converting your external links to in-line citations, which will automatically generate a proper reference list. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:18, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:15, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Kurt3449 ==
{{Lafc|username=Kurt3449|ts=13:15, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Sallie_Aprahamian}}
Hello there - advice please re lacking significant coverage for Sallie Aprahamian. My research has returned no resources to verify Sallie in the way that the guidelines describe. And having corresponded with her she is unaware of anything more substantial.
Are there any other tactics or conditions that can be met to gain approval? It would seem a shame to not be able to link to a page about her from the other wiki pages that mention her.
Best wishes. [[User:Kurt3449|Kurt3449]] ([[User talk:Kurt3449|talk]]) 13:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:I'm really sorry @[[User:Kurt3449|Kurt3449]], if there are no sources with significant coverage of Sallie which are both independent of her and reliable, then there can be no article at this time. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for taking the time to help. After quite the pot of coffee I've found a podcast recording of Sallie being interviewed at a Dr Who convention! [ https://radiofreeskaro.com/2020/02/15/radio-free-skaro-729-these-go-to-eleven/ , timecode 1:09:45]. I wonder, before I commit to editing, if you consider this appropriate for the criteria. [[User:Kurt3449|Kurt3449]] ([[User talk:Kurt3449|talk]]) 14:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Sorry :( Interviews don't count towards notability as it's the subject talking about themselves. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Understood. Thanks. [[User:Kurt3449|Kurt3449]] ([[User talk:Kurt3449|talk]]) 15:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 14:35, 23 January 2024 review of submission by 83.173.205.85 ==
{{Lafc|username=83.173.205.85|ts=14:35, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Bethlehem_Mission_Society}}
Hi!
The draft for the English version of the Bethlehem Mission Society was declined. I do not understand why, because it is the exact same content as on the German site. There, there are 26 very good references to back the content. Have a look: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionsgesellschaft_Bethlehem
The Bethlehem Mission Society is a traditional religious society with a long history. You can find several articles about the Society in newspapers from all over the world.
Please reconsider?
Best [[Special:Contributions/83.173.205.85|83.173.205.85]] ([[User talk:83.173.205.85|talk]]) 14:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:The German Wikipedia(and every other language Wikipedia) is a separate project, with its own editors and policies. What is acceptable there is not necessarily acceptable here. The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than others. If you believe that the sources you provided meet our standards of a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], you may wish to discuss that with the reviewer directly- as they may not understand German in order to examine the sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:Just to add also that there appears to be quite a lot of unreferenced content in this draft, with entire paragraphs and sections even without a single citation, begging the obvious questions (that no reviewer or reader should ever have to ask) – where is all this information coming from, and how do we know it's true? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 16:01, 23 January 2024 review of submission by AmitabhCS ==
{{Lafc|username=AmitabhCS|ts=16:01, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Amnesiac Flooding}}
Hi,
Writing on a technical topic of your expertise? My draft was declined for the want of `independent' sources. There's a few tricky questions here: the topic is of a technical nature (a new result/algorithm in Computer Science). The citations/sources are all peer-reviewed high quality publications in the research area. I am an expert in the area (I am a University Professor) and co-author of many of these articles. The wiki article is not talking about myself in a personal capacity or making any subjective judgement. The question is what needs to be fixed to have it published? I could add other work as sources which does not have me as a co-author. Alternatively, I could even ask somebody who's not an author on these sources to write a wiki article on the same topic (Can they use the same title?).
Please advise.
Regards. [[User:AmitabhCS|AmitabhCS]] ([[User talk:AmitabhCS|talk]]) 16:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:AmitabhCS|AmitabhCS]]: the core concept of [[WP:notability|notability]], which is a fundamental requirement for inclusion in Wikipedia, means that (and I quote from [[WP:GNG]]) {{tq|"a topic is presumed [notable] when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"}}. The 'sources', in plural, is usually considered to mean three or more. One author writing in multiple publications is arguably just one source; therefore, in answer to your question, yes, it would help if we could see publications by other authors as well.
:There is also the question of bias, as in does citing only or mainly one author, even if the papers are peer-reviewed, introduce a source bias into the article? I'm not necessarily saying that applies here, but I'm sure you will appreciate the inherent risks in person X writing an encyclopaedia article about a topic, and supporting it mostly with sources authored by... person X. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|AmitabhCS}} I fixed your link for proper display- the whole url is not needed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks, Appreciate that. I suppose I do know of at least three publications which don't have any common author, so I could add that. Hopefully they adddress both your points. Please let me know if there are any other suggestions.
:As a point of discussion, I understand your bias argument but I see it difficult to apply when you are quoting technical results (not assigning subjective value judgements) which are already verified (i.e. peer reviewed) by experts in the field. Of course, there could be a danger that the peer reviewed publcations are themselves poor (not in this case) so you could not rely on that process. [[User:AmitabhCS|AmitabhCS]] ([[User talk:AmitabhCS|talk]]) 16:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:AmitabhCS|AmitabhCS]]: if memory serves, a certain [[Andrew Wakefield]] had a peer-reviewed paper published, in no lesser journal than ''[[The Lancet]]'', showing a link between the MMR vaccine and autism... I jest, of course. :)
::The serious point I wanted to make, bias aside, is that notability at its heart demonstrates that the subject is being talked or written about widely enough to justify its inclusion in the 'pedia; hence the requirement for ''multiple'' reliable and independent sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 16:26, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Klavensky kly ==
{{Lafc|username=Klavensky kly|ts=16:26, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Wheenkly_klay_(soccer)}}
The reason it’s Bcs I’m a semi pro soccer Everyone is looking for me in google, they can't find me, I just made this article so that if they search for me in google, they will find me pls make it article [[User:Klavensky kly|Klavensky kly]] ([[User talk:Klavensky kly|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:No, @[[User:Klavensky kly|Klavensky kly]]. Your draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Wikipedia isn't interested in helping people find you on Google. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 16:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:A Wikipedia article is only one possible input into Google. As Qcne notes, we are not concerned with search results or helping people find you, sorry. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 17:35, 23 January 2024 review of submission by Codumon ==
{{Lafc|username=Codumon|ts=17:35, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:WakaTime}}
I have several third party sources from reputable journals (TechCrunch, SitePoint, GitHub's Official Blog). What else do I need to show notability? [[User:Codumon|Codumon]] ([[User talk:Codumon|talk]]) 17:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Codumon|Codumon]]:
:- TechCrunch is an unreliable source.
:- Medium is an unreliable source.
:- sitepoint works as an okay source.
:- visualstudiomagazine works as an okay source.
:- The GitHub Blog does not show notability.
:- OpenCorporates is a database entry, does not show notability.
:But the rest of your sources are either primary (from WakaTime directly i.e. their site or GitHub). If you can find reviews, discussions, analysis of the software in reputable tech magazines or websites let me know and I will take another look. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::I did a quick Google search and found these non-primary resources. Would they work?
::- https://www.g2.com/products/wakatime/reviews
::- https://tjtharrison.medium.com/track-your-coding-with-wakatime-f893bbf36e95
::- https://perso.crans.org/besson/wakatime.en.html
::- https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/888955/Codealike-vs-WakaTime
::- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6oWMHE9504
::- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_r_xbf-Yfk
::- https://www.facebook.com/WIREDGermany/photos/pb.100070112490031.-2207520000/1358826247495612 [[User:Codumon|Codumon]] ([[User talk:Codumon|talk]]) 20:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Codumon|Codumon]] in order:
:::- No, this is just random reviews.
:::- Perhaps - is TJT Harrison a subject-matter expert?
:::- As above.
:::- As above.
:::- No, this is a random video.
:::- No, this is a random video.
:::- Depends - you've linked to a Facebook page. Is there an article associated with this in WIRED Germany? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::::- Perhaps - is TJT Harrison a subject-matter expert?
::::TJT is in the industry, but I wouldn't call them a subject-matter expert.
::::- Depends - you've linked to a Facebook page. Is there an article associated with this in WIRED Germany?
::::There was a short article in a printed magazine, a mention/feature of tech companies in Germany. [[User:Codumon|Codumon]] ([[User talk:Codumon|talk]]) 21:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Codumon}} You declared a COI, what is the general nature of it? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::I created WakaTime [[User:Codumon|Codumon]] ([[User talk:Codumon|talk]]) 21:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 18:08, 23 January 2024 review of submission by 2600:8802:3A0B:3000:1C76:3507:4076:8EBF ==
{{Lafc|username=2600:8802:3A0B:3000:1C76:3507:4076:8EBF|ts=18:08, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Han_(robot)}}
My draft was repeatedly declined even when I tried to add multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources that substantially talk about Han. I know there still is something wrong... what kind of sources and how many would I need to add? (assuming they all would prove that this merits a Wikipedia article). I still think that Han merits its own wikipedia article the same way that Albert HUBO and Sophia do, but how would the article itself be good? [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:3A0B:3000:1C76:3507:4076:8EBF|2600:8802:3A0B:3000:1C76:3507:4076:8EBF]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:3A0B:3000:1C76:3507:4076:8EBF|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:I'd say this is borderline. The first and last sources are primary, so they don't count. The ''Wired'' piece seems pretty solid. The ''Business Insider'' is normally not considered very reliable (per [[WP:BI]]), but on this occasion it's syndicating Reuters which may be okay. The third, ''AI Magazine'', only provides a brief profile, which doesn't really add up to [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]]. If you could find one more source that squarely meets the [[WP:GNG]] standard, that would probably be enough to get this over the line. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 18:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::So if I can find one more good source, I can resubmit and it would be a good article? [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|talk]]) 20:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::Would CNET be reliable? [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|talk]]) 20:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::I mean this article is in 2015. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|talk]]) 20:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 18:59, 23 January 2024 review of submission by 2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8 ==
{{Lafc|username=2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8|ts=18:59, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Robby_Hecht}}
Hi, I'm not understanding why this article was declined for lack of significant coverage based on the guidelines. I have charted on the Americana chart, won multiple national songwriting competitions, toured internationally at major venues and alongside numerous artists with wikipedia pages, and been written up in multiple national publications like USA Today, American Songwriter and the Wall Street Journal. Rather than pretend to be a third party, I admitted to being both the subject and submitter for the sake of transparency and did not include a single fact that was not backed up by objective sources not composed by myself or anyone I worked with. Please advise. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8|2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8|talk]]) 18:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:The draft doesn't mention anything about your work charting from what I see. The reviewer opined that you might be notable as part of a duo but not as an individual. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:I am not exactly qualified to give advice, but also, by the fact that you're using first person, it appears that you are the subject. Before trying to create an article about yourself, please consider [[Wikipedia: an article about yourself is not necessarily a good thing]] and [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]]. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:3A0B:3000:5403:33A2:1B36:C26|talk]]) 20:49, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
::The user freely admitted they were the subject. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I read the article closely and did everything I could to avoid writing the draft as anything but factual. There is an annotation on every piece of information and no language that expressed an opinion. I'm not sure I understand what more an indie artist is supposed to have in their history beyond 16 years of album releases and touring with national press, appearances on nationally syndicated radio shows like NPR Mountain Stage, inclusion on iTunes charting podcasts like Welcome to Night Vale, wins at national songwriting competitions, and multiple cross references on Wikipedia. At this point, having worked hard to learn the site and frankly enjoying creating this draft, I largely just want to understand what's missing. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8|2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:5D50:980:EC79:9137:B3E6:CEB8|talk]]) 21:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
== 23:12, 23 January 2024 review of submission by 2A01:73C0:500:EF2D:29C0:6106:C3E5:A627 ==
{{Lafc|username=2A01:73C0:500:EF2D:29C0:6106:C3E5:A627|ts=23:12, 23 January 2024|draft=Draft:Efraim_Halevi_(Freddie_Grunsfeld)}}
I'm not sure why my page wasn't accepted [[Special:Contributions/2A01:73C0:500:EF2D:29C0:6106:C3E5:A627|2A01:73C0:500:EF2D:29C0:6106:C3E5:A627]] ([[User talk:2A01:73C0:500:EF2D:29C0:6106:C3E5:A627|talk]]) 23:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
:It was declined for the reasons given in the decline notice. It has since been resubmitted and is awaiting a new review. Given that, do you have a question you wish to ask? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Reference 1: Amazon. Selling books, not giving independent coverage of anything. Doesn't mention Halevi.
:2. Discussion of the essay, but little coverage of Grunsfeld.
:3. Selling books, and doesn't mention Halevi.
:4. Doesn't mention Grunsfeld/Halevi
:5. There is a passing mention of "Efraim Grunsfeld" (which is a combination of names that doesn't appear in the article, but is presumably the subject). Just a passing mention, no significant coverage.
:6. Bad link
:7. Doesn't mention Halevi.
:8. Might be good: I haven't seen the text. But it doesn't sound from the title as if it contains an in-depth independent coverage of Halevi.
:9. Passing mention, in a non-independent source
:10. Unpublished (or at best self-published work).
:With the possible exception of no 8, not one of these references contributes to establishing [[WP:notability|notability]] in the sense that Wikipedia uses the word.
:The '''first''' task in creating a Wikipedia article is to find several sources that meet the [[WP:golden rule|golden rule]]: they are reliably published, wholly independent of the subject, and contain significant coverage of the subject. If you don't find such sources, then writing so much as a single word of an article is a waste of time. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
= January 24 =
== 01:33, 24 January 2024 review of submission by Adriandavid1213 ==
{{Lafc|username=Adriandavid1213|ts=01:33, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:Lavinia_de_Rothschild}}
Since you don't wanna publish, please delete the Draft: Lavinia de Rothschild.
Thank you [[User:Adriandavid1213|Adriandavid1213]] ([[User talk:Adriandavid1213|talk]]) 01:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Done. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 02:27, 24 January 2024 review of submission by Littlec808 ==
{{Lafc|username=Littlec808|ts=02:27, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:The_'90s_Are_Blue's_Clues}}
Coming soon Spring 2024 [[User:Littlec808|Littlec808]] ([[User talk:Littlec808|talk]]) 02:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Littlec808|Littlec808]]: that's not a question. Do you have one in mind you'd like to ask? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:(Blocked as a sock.) [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 05:27, 24 January 2024 review of submission by Preksha30 ==
{{Lafc|username=Preksha30|ts=05:27, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:Rakesh_Khatri}}
is this okay now? [[User:Preksha30|Preksha30]] ([[User talk:Preksha30|talk]]) 05:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Preksha30|Preksha30]]: not sure what you mean. This draft was ''rejected'' more than two months ago, and will not be reviewed again or otherwise taken further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::How to resubmit it? [[User:Preksha30|Preksha30]] ([[User talk:Preksha30|talk]]) 19:21, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:::{{u|Preksha30}} Rejection means that resubmission is not possible. If something has fundamentally changed about the draft since it was rejected, like new sources the reviewer did not consider, or in your case, if it is written in an encyclopedia style, the first step is to appeal to the last reviewer directly. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 11:10, 24 January 2024 review of submission by Tennis Sibu ==
{{Lafc|username=Tennis Sibu|ts=11:10, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:Fun_Tennis_Sibu}}
Hi, I'd like to know why my request is deleted. [[User:Tennis Sibu|Tennis Sibu]] ([[User talk:Tennis Sibu|talk]]) 11:10, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:OP blocked for promotion and username. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 12:33, 24 January 2024 review of submission by MVP988 ==
{{Lafc|username=MVP988|ts=12:33, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:MVP Development Agencies}}
Can you tell what missing in this article [[User:MVP988|MVP988]] ([[User talk:MVP988|talk]]) 12:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:It is written as an essay, not an encyclopedia article. This is why it was rejected. You also seem to have some sort of connection to this topic, please see my comments on your user talk page. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Many people are so much confused about which companies give mvp development services that's why I am writing this article and also add information about MVP development work. [[User:MVP988|MVP988]] ([[User talk:MVP988|talk]]) 12:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Please do not create a new thread for every post, simply edit this existing section. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:: {{reply|MVP988}} Your draft reads like the [[listicle]] that it was drawn from; an article whose only purpose is to promote the companies listed. [[WP:SPAM|Wikipedia does not exist to promote individual companies]]. [[User:WikiDan61|<span style="color: green;">WikiDan61</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:WikiDan61|ChatMe!]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/WikiDan61|ReadMe!!]]</sub> 14:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:54, 24 January 2024 review of submission by Pioussouls ==
{{Lafc|username=Pioussouls|ts=13:54, 24 January 2024|draft=Draft:Book_Your_Hunt}}
Hello! Can any editor please look into this page and help me improve it? Need your kind suggestions to improve and make it acceptable.
Thanks [[User:Pioussouls|Pioussouls]] ([[User talk:Pioussouls|talk]]) 13:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
== 16:26, 24 January 2024 review of submission by MattPurcell211 ==
{{Lafc|username=MattPurcell211|ts=16:26, 24 January 2024|draft=User:MattPurcell211/sandbox}}
Hello, using the sandbox, I have just submitted an article for review which notes the career of a professional golfer - Frank Kennedy. I wanted to ask whether the reviewer would automatically change the title of the page if it is accepted, as the current title is "User:MattPurcell211/sandbox" due to the use of the sandbox instead of "Frank Kennedy."
This is the first article I have sent for publishing, so I am not entirely sure on the process. Please advise? Thanks! [[User:MattPurcell211|MattPurcell211]] ([[User talk:MattPurcell211|talk]]) 16:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:MattPurcell211|MattPurcell211]]: the title is always adjusted, if necessary, when the draft is accepted and published in the encyclopaedia. Also, even before that, sandbox and other user space drafts are routinely moved to the Draft: name space on sight. In fact, I'll go and do that now. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
:PS: Now at {{courtesy link|Draft:Frank Kennedy (golfer)}}. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:33, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[User:MattPurcell211|MattPurcell211]] ([[User talk:MattPurcell211|talk]]) 16:41, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
= January 25 =
== 02:47, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Hani ali0 ==
{{Lafc|username=Hani ali0|ts=02:47, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Hani_Ali}}
Hello, I have provided secondary sources directly from league page but was declined. Can I please get clear directions and help to get this page published as soon as possible? Thank you so much. [[User:Hani ali0|Hani ali0]] ([[User talk:Hani ali0|talk]]) 02:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I uploaded sources directly from the league page. I also added pictures relating to each team played with, deleting one extra one as told. If there is anything else I need to do to get this page published please let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much. [[User:Hani ali0|Hani ali0]] ([[User talk:Hani ali0|talk]]) 03:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Hani ali0|Hani ali0]]: firstly, please don't start a new thread with each comment, just add to your previous one.
:Secondly, if you haven't yet done so, please read [[WP:AUTOBIO]] for the reasons why you should not be writing about yourself.
:And lastly, you have resubmitted this draft and it is awaiting review. A reviewer will pick it up sooner or later, and either accept it or provide feedback as to why it cannot be accepted. Please be patient, we have over 1,000 drafts pending review, and Wikipedia is not edited to a deadline. (Is there a particular reason why you want it published ASAP?) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:PS: We don't normally do on-demand reviews here at the help desk, but I took a quick look at your draft and declined it as there was barely any referencing and absolutely no evidence of notability of any kind. Unless you significantly improve it before resubmitting, I expect it may be rejected outright at the next review. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 10:22, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Niklas.Andersson.95 ==
{{Lafc|username=Niklas.Andersson.95|ts=10:22, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Theoria_(sociology_journal)}}
I am working again on this Theoria page, and I am wondering if it is possible to have the paragraphs that are unsupported by secondary sources hosted elsewhere, as in an archive. So if one wanted to read more about the journal, they could go there instead. Also, can someone help me clean up the texts on this page, as English is not my primary language. And is there a way to make the academic journal indexing automatically update for the page? [[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]] ([[User talk:Niklas.Andersson.95|talk]]) 10:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]]: if by "hosted elsewhere" you mean elsewhere on Wikipedia, then no; elsewhere on an external site – sure!
:I'm a bit confused as to why the content cannot be supported by referencing. Surely all that information must have come from ''somewhere'', so just cite the source(s). That said, I don't think there is actually all that much unreferenced content.
:Our main concern here at AfC is notability. If you can show that this journal passes [[WP:NJOURNALS]], it could probably be accepted, and just tagged for any remaining issues. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hi! Yes, I meant hosted externally. Sorry for the confusion! Most of this work is produced through interviews that I had with members of Theoria, meaning first-person accounts, so there are no secondary sources to corroborate them. But the interviews are externally hosted, so they can be read elsewhere. I have linked them to the sources. And in regards to notability, I would argue that Theoria fulfills at least one of the stated criteria for notability, which then should be enough if I am reading the notability page correctly. [[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]] ([[User talk:Niklas.Andersson.95|talk]]) 10:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]]: ah, okay, got it. Personal interviews and recollections like that wouldn't be acceptable sources anyway, as sources must be [[WP:published|published]]. In that case, my advice would be to remove such content, as you're implying by suggesting to host it elsewhere.
:::Which criterion of NJOURNALS does it fulfil, and what evidence is there to support that? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::::Okay, the sources are publicly accessible, but I think I understand that might not be enough. Regarding the notability, Theoria is listed on the '''Social Sciences Citation Index''' ('''SSCI'''), which is what the notability page states is a requirement for fulfilling C1.
::::here is the link to the journal on SSCI: https://mjl.clarivate.com:/search-results?issn=0040-5817&hide_exact_match_fl=true&utm_source=mjl&utm_medium=share-by-link&utm_campaign=journal-profile-share-this-journal [[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]] ([[User talk:Niklas.Andersson.95|talk]]) 11:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]]: yep, that would indeed seem to satisfy C1.b of NJOURNALS; I'll make a note of that in the draft.
:::::Once you've removed (or referenced) the unsupported content, you can either resubmit the draft, or ping me (or drop by my talk page) and I'll review it myself. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::::::Alright, thank you! How do I ping you? Sorry, I am still learning how to edit here on Wikipedia. Also, after I have removed the unsupported parts, which would be all the historical sections I would imagine, can I get some assistance with cleaning up the text as English is not my primary language? [[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]] ([[User talk:Niklas.Andersson.95|talk]]) 12:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Niklas.Andersson.95|Niklas.Andersson.95]]: see {{tl|Ping}}. (Note that just @'ing someone doesn't do the trick.)
:::::::I don't think there's anything wrong with the text (although who am I to comment, English isn't my first language either!), and in any case that can be left for future editors to edit, which they will do in any case. :)
:::::::-- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 10:41, 25 January 2024 review of submission by 20 Екатерина ==
{{Lafc|username=20 Екатерина|ts=10:41, 25 January 2024|draft=Отклонение}}
Здравствуйте! Подскажите, почему был отклонен черновик? Что необходимо изменить в статье? [[User:20 Екатерина|20 Екатерина]] ([[User talk:20 Екатерина|talk]]) 10:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:20 Екатерина|20 Екатерина]]: this is the English-language Wikipedia; please communicate in English, thanks. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::Hello! Can you tell me why the draft was rejected? What needs to be changed in the article? [[User:20 Екатерина|20 Екатерина]] ([[User talk:20 Екатерина|talk]]) 10:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:And if you mean this draft [[User:20 Екатерина/sandbox]], then that was declined for the same reason, of not being in English. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Note: the user has now (today) started editing in ru-wiki. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:20, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Dishant Valmiki ==
{{Lafc|username=Dishant Valmiki|ts=13:20, 25 January 2024|draft=User:Dishant_Valmiki/sandbox}}
Because I have been declined twice [[User:Dishant Valmiki|Dishant Valmiki]] ([[User talk:Dishant Valmiki|talk]]) 13:20, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Answered below. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:22, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Dishant Valmiki ==
{{Lafc|username=Dishant Valmiki|ts=13:22, 25 January 2024|draft=User:Dishant Valmiki/sandbox}}
Can you tell me what was missing in my article, so I can improve it, and publish it [[User:Dishant Valmiki|Dishant Valmiki]] ([[User talk:Dishant Valmiki|talk]]) 13:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Did you read the comment @[[User:Dishant Valmiki|Dishant Valmiki]] left by the reviewer? You cannot use Wikipedia as a source. Sources must be reliable, independent, and preferably seconary. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:24, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Stef joosten ==
{{Lafc|username=Stef joosten|ts=13:24, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Ampersand_Language}}
I am curious to hear whether I have addressed the reviewer's comments adequately. Should I resubmit to find out, or should I ask this question here? [[User:Stef joosten|Stef joosten]] ([[User talk:Stef joosten|talk]]) 13:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Stef joosten|Stef joosten]]: please resubmit. For us here at the help desk to be able to comment on notability, we would have to review the article anyway, and that's not really what the help desk is for.
:BTW, given that you appear (?) to be a (co-)author of many of the sources cited, what is your relationship with this subject? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 13:25, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Mk6778 ==
{{Lafc|username=Mk6778|ts=13:25, 25 January 2024|draft=Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Federico Bardazzi}}
My article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Federico_Bardazzi was rejected for the following reasons:
"This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified."
but I included 47 References in the article, which is also a simple translation of the article https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Bardazzi properly online and approved.
Which References do you think they refer to? Also since the Italian article is approved, why is the English article not? Sorry for my English [[User:Mk6778|Mk6778]] ([[User talk:Mk6778|talk]]) 13:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Mk6778|Mk6778]], did you read the comment left by the reviewer?
:''For the same reason this was moved to draftspace. There is a lot of information in this draft that does not contain a source. You will need to either remove that information or add an [[WP:INCITE]] reference that verifies'' <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 13:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::I read a comment, but the information does not contain source, what is it? events in Biography? The italian article has the same references as the English one.
::for examples: During the same year, he began collaborating with various ensembles, including the Toscanini Orchestra of [[Parma]], the ORT - Orchestra della Toscana, '''the Abruzzo Symphonic Institution''', and the orchestral groups of the [[Fiesole School of Music]]'''.'''
::thanks for your answer [[User:Mk6778|Mk6778]] ([[User talk:Mk6778|talk]]) 17:53, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[User:Mk6778|Mk6778]],
:::The Italian and English Wikipedias are separate project with very different referencing requirements. '''Every''' statement in your draft must have an in-line citation. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:05, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::::So does this paragraph also need references?
::::During the same year, he began collaborating with various ensembles, including the Toscanini Orchestra of Parma, the ORT - Orchestra della Toscana, the Abruzzo Symphonic Institution, and the orchestral groups of the Fiesole School of Music. [[User:Mk6778|Mk6778]] ([[User talk:Mk6778|talk]]) 08:16, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Every statement needs referencing. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 09:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
== 14:01, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Anuragkanttiwari ==
{{Lafc|username=Anuragkanttiwari|ts=14:01, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Kris_Gethin}}
What is the reason my article is not being published. Where as many sources has been provided. Kindly help.
[[User:Anuragkanttiwari|Anuragkanttiwari]] ([[User talk:Anuragkanttiwari|talk]]) 14:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Anuragkanttiwari|Anuragkanttiwari]]: the reason is given in the decline notice and accompanying comments. Namely, the sources are insufficient for establishing notability. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 14:49, 25 January 2024 review of submission by EmeraldRange ==
{{Lafc|username=EmeraldRange|ts=14:49, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Currency Nagar}}
Reviewing this draft and while there are also issues with lacking inline citations, I believe a good portion of this was AI-generated- specifically the Production subsection. Is that grounds for copyvio? Not sure what the policy is. [[User:EmeraldRange|'''<span style="color:#307F37;">EmeraldRange</span>''']] ([[User talk:EmeraldRange|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/EmeraldRange|contribs]]) 14:49, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:EmeraldRange|EmeraldRange]] Even if its not AI generated its completely inappropriate for Wikipedia so I would decline it on tone grounds. AI work cannot yet be copyrighted so its not a copyvio. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for clarifying and suggesting the tone reason! [[User:EmeraldRange|'''<span style="color:#307F37;">EmeraldRange</span>''']] ([[User talk:EmeraldRange|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/EmeraldRange|contribs]]) 15:09, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 15:22, 25 January 2024 review of submission by 138.246.3.242 ==
{{Lafc|username=138.246.3.242|ts=15:22, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:TUM Georg Nemetschek Institute Artificial Intelligence for the Built World}}
The submission is claimed to appear to "read more like an advertisement" and needs more sources. Is there a specific area that needs extra attention to avoid such issues? [[Special:Contributions/138.246.3.242|138.246.3.242]] ([[User talk:138.246.3.242|talk]]) 15:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Not really any specific are. The whole draft reads like what the Institute wants the world to know about itself.
:Wikipedia doesn't care what the Institute wants the world to know about it: what Wikipedia is interested in is what people unconnected with the Institute have chosen to publish about it. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:47, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 16:39, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Kalakpagh ==
{{Lafc|username=Kalakpagh|ts=16:39, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Valerie_Anne_Sackey}}
Per the secondary source, does it mean I should look for different websites, journals, etc that also talk about the subject? [[User:Kalakpagh|Kalakpagh]] ([[User talk:Kalakpagh|talk]]) 16:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:Yes. Find some that meet the [[WP:golden rule|golden rule]], and base your article on them. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you [[User:Kalakpagh|Kalakpagh]] ([[User talk:Kalakpagh|talk]]) 17:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
== 17:43, 25 January 2024 review of submission by LunaSparks ==
{{Lafc|username=LunaSparks|ts=17:43, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Red_Leather_(Artist)}}
Would this page meet the reference requirement? [[User:LunaSparks|LunaSparks]] ([[User talk:LunaSparks|talk]]) 17:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
== 19:18, 25 January 2024 review of submission by Xcgolds ==
{{Lafc|username=Xcgolds|ts=19:18, 25 January 2024|draft=Draft:Altay_Şükrü_Yılmaz}}
Hello,
== 19:11, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Don Wanyama Off ==
Can you provide information on how the arrangement should be made? Where do we make mistakes? [[User:Xcgolds|Xcgolds]] ([[User talk:Xcgolds|talk]]) 19:18, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:11, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Xcgolds|Xcgolds]]: what 'arrangement' would that be, then?
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:This draft has been rejected and is pending deletion.
:BTW,* what[[WP:QUACK]] is- yourSPI relationship with this subject? --filed [[User:DoubleGrazingKylieTastic|DoubleGrazingKylieTastic]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazingKylieTastic|talk]]) 19:1950, 251 JanuarySeptember 20242025 (UTC)
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== 0001:4200, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by LunaSparksAsf132 ==
{{Lafc|username=LunaSparksAsf132|ts=01:00:42, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:Red LeatherRao (Artist)Mulpuri}}
ThisHi! isntI aam questionawaiting aboutsubmission editing,of butthis Ibiographical wasarticle, wonderingand ifdespite Ifixing wouldthe beinitial allowedrequest tofrom postmy thisevaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to alook fandomat communitythe whileright Ione. waitCould untilsomeone Redplease Leatherensure himselfeverything meetsis allok? requirementsI tobelieve haveit ais wikipediaready page.for publishing [[User:LunaSparksAsf132|LunaSparksAsf132]] ([[User talk:LunaSparksAsf132|talk]]) 0001:4200, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025 (UTC)
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:You would have to ask the relevant Fandom community; you would need to attribute the posting there to Wikipedia to just reuse it elsewhere. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 0702:4701, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by HAL 7C0Elesha1188 ==
{{Lafc|username=HAL 7C0Elesha1188|ts=0702:4701, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:Mital-UCyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I find the reason given ('topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia') for rejecting the submission difficult to understand and very subjective.
Depending on the interests of the person making the decision, this entry may be more or less relevant.
The fact is that mital-U is an independent music label that has produced some relevant releases (including chart entries in Germany + Austria with Eisbaer by Grauzone, as well as Record of the Week of the song automaten by mittageisen on the John Peel Radio Show BBC1).
Therefore, I would be grateful for a reversal of the rejection and an indication of where there might be a need for additions to the list. [[User:HAL 7C0|HAL 7C0]] ([[User talk:HAL 7C0|talk]]) 07:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:HAL 7C0|HAL 7C0]]: this draft was declined five times before being rejected. I'd say that's plenty of opportunity to demonstrate notability, but if this isn't forthcoming, then eventually we have to reject as we can't keep reviewing the same draft indefinitely.
:Notability of companies is defined in [[WP:CORP]], and there is very little, if any, subjectivity in that guideline. It certainly does not in any way consider the "interests of the person", or "relevance" of the subject (whatever that means, exactly). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
== 1404:5904, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025 review of submission by JuniperChillGoldface2009 ==
{{Lafc|username=JuniperChillGoldface2009|ts=1404:5904, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025|draft=DraftUser:Sun_HavenGoldface2009/sandbox}}
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
First thing, is the layout of the article Sun Haven alright? I have been looking at other video games that are released in 2023 like [[Coral Island (video game)]] and [[My Time at Sandrock]].
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
And second, are reliable sources required since I think none of them (other than the link to the official website presented in the 'external links' section) are primary sources. I feel like the main reason for my article being rejected (even though I put a few reviews on that game) is because of the fact that there are little to no reliable sources for Sun Haven at [[WP:VG/S]] and does not really meet [[GNG]] even though I thought it just creeps it (see the history) Although I did find a few reviews of it. There is also not currently a [https://www.metacritic.com/game/sun-haven/ Metacritic review]. I was thinking this game is quite popular it is more popular than [[Fae Farm]] IMO but I think what matters is that not how popular it is but if there are at least a couple of reliable sources.
The closest I can find is from [https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/games-like-stardew-valley-the-best-farming-games-on-pc RPS] but that is not its own page.
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
As well as my comment here, you should see the reviewers one too. [[User:JuniperChill|JuniperChill]] ([[User talk:JuniperChill|talk]]) 14:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:JuniperChillSamyfit556b|JuniperChillSamyfit556b]]: init's short,right yesthere, reliablein sourcesthe areabove ''verylink. much'That's required,where becauseyour everythingrejected you say must be supported by (ie. come from, in practice)draft aon reliableBBKaPitara sourceis. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 1505:0811, 262 JanuarySeptember 20242025 (UTC)
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