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== 0003:2512, 728 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by 2603:7000:C800:354F:C595:CED2:6C7:698DIanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=2603:7000:C800:354F:C595:CED2:6C7:698DIanResearch|ts=0003:2512, 728 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Fabio_RojasZigZagZurich}}
Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:C800:354F:C595:CED2:6C7:698D|2603:7000:C800:354F:C595:CED2:6C7:698D]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:C800:354F:C595:CED2:6C7:698D|talk]]) 00:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
== 01:15, 7 September 2024 review of submission by Jaytirth joshi ==
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jaytirth joshi|ts=01:15, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft:Jaytirth_Joshi}}
Finding References and Help as this is a COI [[User:Jaytirth joshi|Jaytirth joshi]] ([[User talk:Jaytirth joshi|talk]]) 01:15, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
== 05:28, 28 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang ==
:{{deleted}} I suggest you do not attempt to use Wikipedia to advertise yourself, [[User:Jaytirth joshi|Jaytirth joshi]]. It is always doomed to failure. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 21:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang|ts=05:28, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Winmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
== 04:48, 7 September 2024 review of submission by Mrsrusso35 ==
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Mrsrusso35|ts=04:48, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft:Keyoka_Bryant_Russo}}
because my article not good [[User:Mrsrusso35|Mrsrusso35]] ([[User talk:Mrsrusso35|talk]]) 04:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
== 06:40, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 109.252.122.222 ==
:Is there a question? The article is not written like an encyclopedia entry, has no sources, and makes no real claim to notability. The reviewer was kind to not simply reject the draft outright. Given the name you're using on Wikipedia, it also appears there's a high probability that this is an autobiography or an article about someone you're closely connected to. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 05:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=109.252.122.222|ts=06:40, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Maxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 06:27, 7 September 2024 review of submission by Davideeajeanseb ==
{{Lafc|username=Davideeajeanseb|ts=06:27, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft:Jean-Sébastien_Colau}}
I don't understand why you do not find the verification of Jean-Sèbastien Colau, as He is the Ballet Director of the National Fondation of Teatro Massimo Palermo, as we can verify everything easily on the website of this National Theatre
www.teatromassimo.it [[User:Davideeajeanseb|Davideeajeanseb]] ([[User talk:Davideeajeanseb|talk]]) 06:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
:@[[User:Davideeajeanseb|Davideeajeanseb]]: this draft is completely unreferenced, which is totally unacceptable especially where the subject is a living person (see [[WP:BLP]]). For the same reason, there is also no evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]], which is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:32, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
:PS: What is your relationship with the subject? Your user name suggests a connection, and you've uploaded a photo of him which you say you've taken. I've posted a message on your talk page regarding conflicts of interest, please read and respond to it. Thank you, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:34, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 10:22, 7 September 2024 review of submission by A37393 ==
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=A37393|ts=10:22, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft: Ye Tao}}
:Comments on your assessment table:
What needs to be improved? [[User:A37393|A37393]] ([[User talk:A37393|talk]]) 10:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==
:{{ping|A37393}} [[WP:GLOBALTIMES|We can't cite the ''Global Times'' (no editorial oversight).]] The Paralympics website is useless for notability ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). The ''People's Daily'' source is credited to [[Xinhua News Agency|Xinhua]], which is a dodgy source for any matter where the CCP has an interest in spinning it but I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. Even so, [[WP:Notability|one source by itself cannot support ''any'' article on Wikipedia]], let alone one where [[WP:Biographies of living persons|strict sourcing requirements apply]]. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 15:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:48, 7 September 2024 review of submission by Slgrandson ==
{{Lafc|username=Slgrandson|ts=12:48, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft:Today_(The_New_Christy_Minstrels_album)}}
Turned down several hours ago over reliable-source concerns--although the links from [[Newspapers.com]] and [[Allmusic]] clearly suggest otherwise. Filing this appeal to see if I'm missing one more ingredient per [[WP:NALBUM]]/[[WP:SIGCOV]], or if the decline was a mistake; on behalf of page creator {{User|Piperium}}. [[User:Slgrandson|Slgrandson]] <small>([[User talk:Slgrandson|How's my]] [[Special:Contributions/Slgrandson|egg-throwing coleslaw?]])</small> 12:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:4457, 728 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by MartaTariAras2025 ==
{{Lafc|username=MartaTariAras2025|ts=14:4457, 728 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Zuccher SimoneRadio_Duhok}}
Hello,
Can you tell me for which informations reliable sources are needed. If you can specify me this then I can rewrite the article in a better way without (I hope) making errors like this.
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
Thanks [[User:MartaTari|MartaTari]] ([[User talk:MartaTari|talk]]) 14:44, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
:@[[User:MartaTari|MartaTari]]: pretty much ''everything'' needs to be supported by reliable sources. Which source gives this person's date of birth? Which one says that {{tq|"He is renowned for his contributions to research on vortex reconnection, turbulence, and boundary layer stability"}}? Where does his educational history come from? Etc. etc. You should only be summarising what reliable sources say, and then you must cite those sources so that the information can be verified. This is a core principle of Wikipedia in any article, but especially important in articles on living people (see [[WP:BLP]]). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
::Thanks for the reply. Now I will correct what you made me note.
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
::thank you [[User:MartaTari|MartaTari]] ([[User talk:MartaTari|talk]]) 14:55, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
== 17:36, 7 September 2024 review of submission by CATLORD1944 ==
{{Lafc|username=CATLORD1944|ts=17:36, 7 September 2024|draft=Draft:Balbina's_Dozen}}
should I add it to a page about cookies [[User:CATLORD1944|CATLORD1944]] ([[User talk:CATLORD1944|talk]]) 17:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|CATLORD1944}} '''This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further.''' We do not accept random things and concepts that are novel; [[WP:Notability|sources are hard-required]] to demonstrate that the term/concept is in relatively widespread use. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 18:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
= September 8 =
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0616:5850, 828 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Jnana theerthaSaysky2 ==
{{Lafc|username=Jnana theerthaSaysky2|ts=0616:5850, 828 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Riemann_hypothesis_informationAjay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
What are the reasons for decline [[User:Jnana theertha|Jnana theertha]] ([[User talk:Jnana theertha|talk]]) 06:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:{{ping|Jnana theertha}} We don't host [[WP:NOT#HOWTO|instruction guides]] or [[WP:NOR|original research]] unattested by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], which is why '''this draft has been rejected and will not be considered further.''' —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 07:09, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 08:01, 8 September 2024 review of submission by 85.253.11.128 ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=85.253.11.128|ts=08:01, 8 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sweden_Soviet_Socialist_Republic}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
Because is an real countries seen is an real countries in the cold war [[Special:Contributions/85.253.11.128|85.253.11.128]] ([[User talk:85.253.11.128|talk]]) 08:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
:Could you please cite even one reliable source to support this? And by 'reliable', I don't mean Fandom. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
:Absolute nonsense. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:37, 8 September 2024 review of submission by Faridgurbanov3 ==
{{Lafc|username=Faridgurbanov3|ts=12:37, 8 September 2024|draft=User:Faridgurbanov3/sandbox}}
I have question about my references. Which one is not suitable for Wikipedia, as I did not understand [[User:Faridgurbanov3|Faridgurbanov3]] ([[User talk:Faridgurbanov3|talk]]) 12:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:@[[User:Faridgurbanov3|Faridgurbanov3]]: they are all primary sources (business websites), which cannot be used to establish notability per [[WP:GNG]]. They may also not be particularly reliable, as they each have an 'agenda' to push. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
Hello team,
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 17:05, 8 September 2024 review of submission by 67.211.168.157 ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=67.211.168.157|ts=17:05, 8 September 2024|draft=Draft:Paul Veneto}}
:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I have just written a draft article on Paul Veneto, a retired flight attendant who is currently pushing a beverage cart from Boston to New York to commemorate flight crews lost in the September 11th, 2001 attacks. Is there any way to get this expedited so it can be reviewed and published before he arrives at the September 11th memorial on that day? Thanks for any help.
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
[[Draft:Paul Veneto]] [[Special:Contributions/67.211.168.157|67.211.168.157]] ([[User talk:67.211.168.157|talk]]) 17:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
:[[WP:DEADLINE|We do not respect external deadlines.]] —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 18:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 20:16, 8 September 2024 review of submission by Violetpennington ==
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Violetpennington|ts=20:16, 8 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sam_Forster}}
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
This draft was denied by a reviewer, supposedly because it did not meet the requirements for notability, but the individual in question is a major media figure whose work has been covered extensively by many international outlets. [[User:Violetpennington|Violetpennington]] ([[User talk:Violetpennington|talk]]) 20:16, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
= August 29 =
:You have resubmitted it; the reviewer will either accept it or leave feedback. In my looking at it, you have summarized his work, but not what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say is [[WP:BIO|notable about him]]. You quote a Canadian government official speaking about his work, but not him personally or how the fact that he filmed the footage made it significant. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
== 2301:0229, 829 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by AutisticMinnesotanHyperbolick ==
{{Lafc|username=AutisticMinnesotanHyperbolick|ts=2301:0229, 829 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:1.75Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
I don't know why it breaks the five pillars. Please help. Also, I'm not usually the paragraph guy, but do I have to write a paragraph? Cause I might delete this account if I do. Sorry if this is is unnecessary or unkind, Sincerely - AustisticMinnesotan [[User:AutisticMinnesotan|AutisticMinnesotan]] ([[User talk:AutisticMinnesotan|talk]]) 23:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like you have written a math problem. This is a place to write an encyclopedia article that summarizes what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about topics that [[WP:GNG|meet the notability criteria]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
= September 9 =
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 00:03, 9 September 2024 review of submission by 69.157.87.189 ==
{{Lafc|username=69.157.87.189|ts=00:03, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Ken_Cuthbertson}}
What would make this more notable? The reviewer mention there was not sufficient independent coverage. But I had included several external links, including a few to notable literary awards. [[Special:Contributions/69.157.87.189|69.157.87.189]] ([[User talk:69.157.87.189|talk]]) 00:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:I disagreed with the review, worked on it, and accepted it. Also, I have messaged the rejecting reviewer too. Congratulations! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 06:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
== 03:15, 9 September 2024 review of submission by 189.202.71.98 ==
:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=189.202.71.98|ts=03:15, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Kenneth_Ian_Valdivieso_Almeida}}
Kenneth Ian Valdivieso Almeida is for Mexico [[Special:Contributions/189.202.71.98|189.202.71.98]] ([[User talk:189.202.71.98|talk]]) 03:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Special:Contributions/189.202.71.98|189.202.71.98]], your draft was rejected as "not sufficiently suitable for Wikipedia" because it doesn't meet [[WP:GNG|our general notability guidelines]]. Also, being a YouTuber is not enough as you need to show how he is notable as a YouTuber; and it includes: YouTube creators award, impact he has made as a creator, appearances in multiple [[WP:RS|reliable ]] news, e.t.c. You may like to read [[HELP:YFA]]. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 04:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 03:44, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Wikiproject2024 ==
{{Lafc|username=Wikiproject2024|ts=03:44, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Georgia_Rotary_Student_Program_(GRSP)}}
How can I rewrite this article to sound more neutral? I used the Rotary Youth Exchange wikipedia website as a guide. Can you provide an example to help me fix the draft? [[User:Wikiproject2024|Wikiproject2024]] ([[User talk:Wikiproject2024|talk]]) 03:44, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Wikiproject2024|Wikiproject2024]] and how are you're doing?{{pb}}Your draft has been tagged for speedy deletion as not written in a neutral encyclopedic format. Writing on Wikipedia involves giving time to research about the topic and not using what the website says. If I have a website and you go to my "about" segment, you may see praises about me like: "passionate about reading and has indigenously added impact to his country and beyond the world." Same is applicable when writing from the company's website. However, you should not use promotional [[WP:PEACOCK]] terms while writing an article. Simply show us how the organisation is notable using [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. You may like to see other company/organisation's article ([[Facebook]], [[Wikipedia]], and so on) to see how it is written. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 04:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::But if i use words like "unique" is that puffery language even if there isnt another one like it within the Rotary scholarships and programs and it only exists within one state in the USA? [[User:Wikiproject2024|Wikiproject2024]] ([[User talk:Wikiproject2024|talk]]) 04:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::See [[WP:WTW]]. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::It should only be described as unique if it is also said which third party is making that claim- it shouldn't say so in Wikipedia's voice. (i.e. "according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitition, this program is unique in the United States because....") Nor should it say so if the only people who say it's unique is the program itself. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Are you associated with this program in some way, such as being assigned the task of writing about it by the program? ("project" is in your username) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::::No, I am not associated with this program. I had to write a wikipedia article as part of a college class, that's why project is in my username :) I could write about anything and noticed this program didn't have a wikipedia page. Thanks for the help [[User:Wikiproject2024|Wikiproject2024]] ([[User talk:Wikiproject2024|talk]]) 16:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Wikiproject2024}} Assigning you the task of writing a Wikipedia article as part of a class is extremely unfair to you, as you actually have little control over the process. Your instructor may wish to review the [[WP:WEP|Wikipedia Education Program materials]] to better incorporate Wikipedia into their lessons, in such a way as to not put students in a difficult position. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
== 0511:1732, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by GrisWGrisNewacctowork ==
{{Lafc|username=GrisWGrisNewacctowork|ts=0511:1732, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=UserDraft:GrisWGris/sandboxTrinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
Thanks in advance. I would like the title of the page to be Garry Gray and simply to link the brief profile to my Sacred Cowboys post punk Wiki page. If people look for me they can link to Sacred Cowboys. Regards, Garry
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
[[User:GrisWGris|GrisWGris]] ([[User talk:GrisWGris|talk]]) 05:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
:{{done}}: @[[User:GrisWGris|GrisWGris]], note that writing an [[WP: AUTOBIOGRAPHY]] is not advised herein. I have moved the page to your desired title and hence it's eligible for deletion by any editor, if it meets any criteria. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 05:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
== 06:15, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Streamerdude ==
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
{{Lafc|username=Streamerdude|ts=06:15, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:MimoLive}}
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I have submitted a draft article, but it has not been published yet, and I would like to understand the reasons behind this. Could you please provide guidance on why my draft has not been accepted and what specific steps I can take to improve it to meet the publication standards?
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:00, 29 August 2025 review of submission by GeorgeHav ==
Your assistance in helping me get the article recognized would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Streamerdude|Streamerdude]] ([[User talk:Streamerdude|talk]]) 06:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=GeorgeHav|ts=12:00, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:FlightSimExpo}}
:Your draft doesn't appear to meet [[WP:NSOFT]]. Almost, if not all the sources are unreliable. It's should be pure that GitHub, Zoom Inc, e.t.c are unreliable sources and doesn't show [[WP:SIGCOV]] (one of the reasons for the article's deletion three years ago). Please read [[WP:RS]] for tips on identifying reliable sources. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 06:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:31, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Vanityorpride ==
::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Vanityorpride|ts=13:31, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bjørn_Vidø}}
How:::I would talk much less about occurrences doesof the articleevent lookand nowmuch formore approvalabout forwhat aindependent Wikipedia[[WP:RS|reliable articlesources]] postedsay onabout theit. mainYou spacemeed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:Vanityorpride331dot|Vanityorpride331dot]] ([[User talk:Vanityorpride331dot|talk]]) 1323:3118, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)
::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==
:@[[User:Vanityorpride|Vanityorpride]]: this draft has now been rejected, and will therefore not be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}
::@[[User:Vanityorpride|Vanityorpride]] Please see [[User talk:Theroadislong#My Draft:Bjorn Vido passes as under the WP:General Notability Guideline|User talk:Theroadislong § My Draft:Bjorn Vido passes as under the WP:General Notability Guideline]] where I am unable to answer your final question. Why? Because I have no answer for you. Others might.
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Instead, let me ask you one of my own. If you are certain that Vido passes the notability threshold, why not move it to become an article yourself?
::Several reviewers have suggested that Vido does not make the grade. You are entitled to disagree. The community may agree with you, or may not. That is a risk everyone takes with new articles. If you move it, please tidy the AFC artefacts up after the move 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 15:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
== 13:44, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Vanityorpride ==
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
{{Lafc|username=Vanityorpride|ts=13:44, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bjørn_Vidø}}
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:Your draft has been declined 9 times and rejected once it doesn't show how they pass [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 15:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Vanityorpride|Vanityorpride]] Please do not open new discussions. The existing one is perfectly sufficient. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 15:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
== 1317:4725, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by LiyafromspaceFurretSuperFan ==
{{Lafc|username=LiyafromspaceFurretSuperFan|ts=1317:4725, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Dima_XRGreatest_Idol}}
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
I am requesting assistance with resubmitting the Draft: Dima_XR. The draft was previously rejected, but I believe it now meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Dima XR is an established artist with multiple concerts this month, featuring guest artists (Dudu Faruk, who already have Wikipedia pages. These collaborations, combined with Dima XR's growing influence and public presence, further solidify his relevance. I would appreciate guidance on how to strengthen the draft, particularly in terms of notability, and ensure that it aligns with Wikipedia's standards for sources and verifiability for resubmission. [[User:Liyafromspace|Liyafromspace]] ([[User talk:Liyafromspace|talk]]) 13:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
:@[[User:Liyafromspace|Liyafromspace]]: before we get to that, can I ask what is your relationship with this subject? And are you also operating the {{u|Liyabelll}} account? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 14:40, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Tuckermanguy ==
{{Lafc|username=Tuckermanguy|ts=14:40, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Luis_Malachi_Santana_II}}
how do I submit a draft for review [[User:Tuckermanguy|Tuckermanguy]] ([[User talk:Tuckermanguy|talk]]) 14:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
:Hi @[[User:Tuckermanguy|Tuckermanguy]], the draft has been submitted for review. However, it is not appropriate for Wikipedia so I have rejected it. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:On the draft for the article, there's a big button that says "Submit the draft for review." However, it is extremely unlikely that this draft would be approved in its current state. No case for notability is made, no sources are provided for any of the facts presented, and the whole thing is written in an unencyclopedic manner. The only source, just slapped on the end, is simply an organization that he allegedly volunteers for. This article needs a lot of work, and I don't see the case for notability at all. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 14:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
:Me neither. Gave 'em my deletion notice. [[User:Deepfriedokra|-- Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 15:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 1718:1402, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by JhanjeriboyJetsonesque ==
{{Lafc|username=JhanjeriboyJetsonesque|ts=1718:1402, 929 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Chandigarh_Group_of_Colleges,_JhanjeriSam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
i need help to submit my article [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 17:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
:@[[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] You submitted it for review, but then bypassed the review process by moving it manually to the main encyclopaedia. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::However, it has been declined every time. Could you please let me know the reason? [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 17:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:::It was declined ''once'' as you did not prove notability under [[WP:NSCHOOL]]. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I have submitted the reference, and it has been live for the last 2 years. However, it was suddenly deleted, and Wikipedia is not accepting it. [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 17:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{comment}} I have [[WP:BLAR]]ed the draft to article moved page to the main topic, [[Chandigarh Group of Colleges]]. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 18:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
::Three different Institutions under CGC
::However, there are three distinct institutions under the CGC.
::Despite having similar names, Chandigarh Group of Colleges (CGC Landran), Chandigarh Group of Colleges (CGC Jhanjeri), and Chandigarh University are three separate educational institutions, each with its own ___location and unique identity.
::Please review this information once again. [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 13:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I kindly request that my article be moved to the Chandigarh Group of Colleges, Jhanjeri page, and not be redirected to the Chandigarh Group of Colleges page. As I have already mentioned, there are three separate educational institutions with similar names: Chandigarh Group of Colleges (CGC Landran), Chandigarh Group of Colleges (CGC Jhanjeri), and Chandigarh University. Chandigarh Group of Colleges, Jhanjeri is a different ___location, so please ensure my article is placed under the correct institution, which is Chandigarh Group of Colleges, Jhanjeri, and not Chandigarh Group of Colleges. [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 13:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Repeating your request 38 minutes after you make is isn't likely to be effective. This is a volunteer effort. You did not show that this college merits a standalone article. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Let me know what should i do? [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 14:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::This is no longer an issue about the draft submission process. If you feel that this particular ___location merits a standalone article and should not be included in the article about the overall organization, I first suggest that you expand the portion of the existing article about it to show that it is [[WP:ORG|a notable organization itself]], then you can start a discussion about [[WP:SPLIT|splitting the article]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] I have sorted it:
:::::::I removed the redirect and restored your draft, it is not submitted for review yet: [[Draft:Chandigarh_Group_of_Colleges,_Jhanjeri]].
:::::::You also moved your userpage to the main encyclopedia, I have reverted that too. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I moved my username by mistake [[User:Jhanjeriboy|Jhanjeriboy]] ([[User talk:Jhanjeriboy|talk]]) 14:52, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{re|Jhanjeriboy}} you've now recreated the article at the variant spelling [[Chandigarh Group Of Colleges, Jhanjeri]]. I'm struggling to [[WP:Assume good faith]] here. Why haven't you improved the draft, and submitted that for review? [[User:Wikishovel|Wikishovel]] ([[User talk:Wikishovel|talk]]) 15:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
== 19:02, 9 September 2024 review of submission by AtlasMarck ==
{{Lafc|username=AtlasMarck|ts=19:02, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Miguel_Angel_Ramirez_Alonso}}
"Hello! I would like to request assistance with Spanish to ensure accuracy. I previously attempted to produce English content, but it was unfortunately declined. Could you please provide guidance?"[[User:AtlasMarck|AtlasMarck]] ([[User talk:AtlasMarck|talk]]) 19:02, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|AtlasMarck}} The Spanish Wikipedia has different policies and editors than the English Wikipedia. What is acceptable there is not necessarily acceptable here. Your text was unambiguously promotional, it talked up the person and told of their activities. Instead, it should summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about him, showing how he meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Your draft was rejected and deleted because it was unsuitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. However, you may use any machine translator to translate from Spanish to English without submitting it, otherwise it will be declined. From there I can help as Miguel Angel Ramirez Alonso appears to be notable. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 19:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:41, 9 September 2024 review of submission by Benm1909 ==
{{Lafc|username=Benm1909|ts=19:41, 9 September 2024|draft=Draft:Council_for_a_Secure_America}}
Hi there,
I'm wondering what else I can add to this page to help it pass muster. It's in depth, independently sourced and cited, and includes links to board members, all with their own established wikipedia pages. Any guidance would be appreciated. [[User:Benm1909|Benm1909]] ([[User talk:Benm1909|talk]]) 19:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Most of your sources are the organization itself, and the ones that aren't just mention the organization. Any article about this organization must summarize independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] which discuss the organization itself and what makes it [[WP:ORG|a notable organization as Wikipedia defines it]]. Having board members who are notable is insufficient, notability is [[WP:NOTINHERITED|not inherited by association]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:If you are associated with this organization, that must be disclosed, see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, Benm1909. {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
= SeptemberAugust 1030 =
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
== 00:12, 10 September 2024 review of submission by SacoraLinlake ==
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
{{Lafc|username=SacoraLinlake|ts=00:12, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:All_is_Fine_in_'89}}
my page keeps getting declined and i don't know what I'm missing, It's. saying my references are wrong and I've fixed them a couple times now. [[User:SacoraLinlake|SacoraLinlake]] ([[User talk:SacoraLinlake|talk]]) 00:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:SacoraLinlake|SacoraLinlake]],{{pb}}Your draft doesn't appear to meet [[WP:NFILM]] and likely, no [[WP:SIGCOV]] will exist for it. Your sources appears to be [[WP:UNRELIABLESOURCE|unreliable]] and that's the reason for the decline. You should be familiar with WP policies and guidelines for notablility and how to consider sources as reliable. ''IMDb'', ''Letterboxd'', and all your sources including social media aren't close to [[WP:RS]] requirements. However, you may also need to declare your relationship, if any, per [[WP:COI]]. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">[[User:SafariScribe|Safari Scribe]]</span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">[[Special:Contributions/SafariScribe|'''''Edits!''''']] [[User talk:SafariScribe|'''''Talk!''''']]</sup> 01:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|SacoraLinlake}} To follow on from what SafariScribe says, this isn't a Wikipedia article; this [[WP:NOTDIR|looks like something you'd see on a film profiling website]]. We're an encyclopaedia and thus require more substantial content than just a poster and credits listing for our articles, sourced to [[WP:RS|in-depth third-party sources with editorial oversight]] that explicitly corroborate the article's claims. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 02:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
== 06:11, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Karinvanderlaag ==
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
{{Lafc|username=Karinvanderlaag|ts=06:11, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Film_Afrika}}
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
Good Day.
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
I am trying to improve the Draft:Film Afrika.
I wanted to suggest removing the filmography as part of my edit.
Would this be allowed? Or will it be too large an edit?
Thanks
Karin [[User:Karinvanderlaag|Karinvanderlaag]] ([[User talk:Karinvanderlaag|talk]]) 06:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
:@[[User:Karinvanderlaag|Karinvanderlaag]]: you're welcome to make (more or less) any edits you wish, to a draft. Personally, I think removing that long list of films would be an improvement. In any case, it should be cut to those films that are notable and where Film Afrika has played a significant role; Wikipedia articles are not intended as comprehensive catalogues of the subject's entire output. HTH, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks very much.
::Great, thanks a lot for the advice! [[User:Karinvanderlaag|Karinvanderlaag]] ([[User talk:Karinvanderlaag|talk]]) 06:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 06:18, 10 September 2024 review of submission by TMarie111 ==
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=TMarie111|ts=06:18, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:SkyLite_Web}}
I have submitted the article but not approved. I'm a new editor. Please let me know I have to update/add which details in the article. So that it can be approved. [[User:TMarie111|TMarie111]] ([[User talk:TMarie111|talk]]) 06:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
:@[[User:TMarie111|TMarie111]]: this draft is completely unreferenced, which also means it provides no evidence that the subject is [[WP:notable|notable]] in Wikipedia terms. Moreover, the draft merely says that such a business exists, and what it does. We want to see what independent third parties (mainly secondary sources such as print or broadcast media) have said about the business and what makes it noteworthy. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
:PS: A message has been posted on your talk page at [[User_talk:TMarie111#Managing_a_conflict_of_interest]] regarding conflicts of interest. Please read and respond to it. Thank you, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 07:40, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Satthepbienhoa ==
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Satthepbienhoa|ts=07:40, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Seamless_Steel_Pipes}}
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Team,
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==
I am writing to discuss the approval and verification of my article on Seamless Steel Pipes. Throughout the process of compiling and editing this article, I have carefully collected and cross-referenced information from reliable and credible sources to ensure that the content meets Wikipedia's standards for accuracy and neutrality.
{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Seamless Steel Pipes are real products that have achieved significant success in the global market. With their superior qualities, such as high pressure resistance, durability, and adaptability to harsh conditions, Seamless Steel Pipes have garnered attention and usage in many important projects across various countries.
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==
I believe that my article not only accurately reflects the true nature of this product but also provides valuable information to the Wikipedia community. The article has been supplemented with references, scientific sources, and real-world data to substantiate the authenticity of the information presented.
{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
I kindly request your support in reviewing and verifying this article. My goal is to contribute a high-quality entry that enables readers worldwide to gain a comprehensive and accurate understanding of Seamless Steel Pipes. Having this article approved would not only help broaden public knowledge but also ensure that more people have access to reliable information about this crucial product.
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
I am committed to continuously updating and maintaining the article in accordance with Wikipedia's guidelines and rules to ensure the content remains accurate and beneficial.
== 21:31, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Matthewbyver ==
Thank you very much for your consideration and support. [[User:Satthepbienhoa|Satthepbienhoa]] ([[User talk:Satthepbienhoa|talk]]) 07:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Matthewbyver|ts=21:31, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Matthew_Byver}}
My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Satthepbienhoa|Satthepbienhoa]]: I have restored the earlier decline to this draft; please don't remove these templates, they must remain there until the draft is accepted.
:In Youother saywords, you're requestingtrying supportto inuse reviewingWikipedia theas drafta publicity platform, butand it[[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that hasis beennot reviewedallowed]] andunder declinedany circumstances. ThisTo beingmerit thea caseWikipedia article, isyou therecan't abe questionup-and-coming. youYou wouldmust likehave toalready ask? --arrived. ~[[User:DoubleGrazingAnachronist|DoubleGrazingAnachronist]] <small>([[User talk:DoubleGrazingAnachronist|talk]])</small> 0702:5007, 1031 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)
::Dear Wikipedia Team,
::Thank you for your response. I understand that my draft was previously declined due to insufficient verification of the information regarding Seamless Steel Pipes. I appreciate the feedback and have since made significant revisions to address the concerns raised.
::I have now added comprehensive verification elements, including credible sources and reliable references, to support the accuracy and authenticity of the information presented in the article. These updates aim to meet Wikipedia’s standards and provide a more robust and well-supported entry.
::Could you please provide any additional guidance or specific areas that might still need improvement? I am committed to ensuring the article aligns with Wikipedia's guidelines and would appreciate any further feedback that can help in making the necessary adjustments.
::Thank you for your continued support and assistance. [[User:Satthepbienhoa|Satthepbienhoa]] ([[User talk:Satthepbienhoa|talk]]) 08:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Satthepbienhoa|Satthepbienhoa]]: we don't do pre-reviews here at the help desk. If you feel you have sufficiently addressed the reason(s) for the earlier decline, you can resubmit the draft for another review. That said, there is still quite a lot of unreferenced information, so this may be declined again for the same reason. Please note that Wikipedia articles should not be composed based on what ''you'' know, but rather by summarising what independent and reliable sources have previously published.
:::More worryingly, it seems that your user name is that of a business acting as supplier of this type of product, and you are referencing your own website through external links. Your user name is therefore a violation of our terms & conditions, and including external links like this can be considered spamming. You should remove any such links. You also need to change your user name. Lastly, I will post information on your website about disclosing your conflict of interest. Please attend to these issues as a matter of urgency, lest you are blocked from editing. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 1121:40, 1030 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by NetcloudConsulting69.255.14.163 ==
{{Lafc|username=NetcloudConsulting69.255.14.163|ts=1121:40, 1030 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=DraftUser:Netcloud_ConsultingWiseman2025/sandbox}}
Why declinedhas my articleartilce been rejected post? [[UserSpecial:NetcloudConsultingContributions/69.255.14.163|NetcloudConsulting69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:NetcloudConsulting69.255.14.163|talk]]) 1121:40, 1030 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
:@[[User:NetcloudConsulting|NetcloudConsulting]] Promotion is prohibited on Wikipedia. Your draft will shortly be deleted and your account will shortly be banned. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:41, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= August 31 =
== 13:21, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Bijaygyawalinepal ==
{{Lafc|username=Bijaygyawalinepal|ts=13:21, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Anurag_Kunwar}}
How can i make my article notable there are very few articles written on his name
[[User:Bijaygyawalinepal|Bijaygyawalinepal]] ([[User talk:Bijaygyawalinepal|talk]]) 13:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
:@[[User:Bijaygyawalinepal|Bijaygyawalinepal]]: this draft has been rejected, as there is no evidence that the subject is notable. And you cannot make a non-notable subject notable with any amount of editing. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
::so how do i provide evidence on that he is a famous actor of nepal what sources i need to add ? can you give me some examples. [[User:Bijaygyawalinepal|Bijaygyawalinepal]] ([[User talk:Bijaygyawalinepal|talk]]) 13:45, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Bijaygyawalinepal|Bijaygyawalinepal]]: as I said, this has been rejected, which means the end of the road.
:::But for future reference, you need to cite sources that either satisfy the general [[WP:GNG]] notability guideline, or prove that the subject meets one of the special ones such as [[WP:NACTOR]] or [[WP:FILMMAKER]] or whatever is most relevant. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:42, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Vanityorpride ==
{{Lafc|username=Vanityorpride|ts=13:42, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bjørn_Vidø}}
What can I add to make the draft approved [[User:Vanityorpride|Vanityorpride]] ([[User talk:Vanityorpride|talk]]) 13:42, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==
:Nothing, it has been rejected. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
== 14:11, 10 September 2024 review of submission by SheepyTheSheep ==
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=SheepyTheSheep|ts=14:11, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Pocket Landship (Game)}}
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
How do i know if my article is awaiting approval?
I'm not 100% sure I managed to publish a page I wrote correctly, how do I know that it's awaiting approval? [[User:SheepyTheSheep|SheepyTheSheep]] ([[User talk:SheepyTheSheep|talk]]) 14:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:If you are referring to the draft I fixed your header to link to as intended, you moved it into the encyclopedia yourself. If you didn't intend to do that, it can be moved back. I would suggest that you consent to that, as it is not yet ready. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:Or are you referring to it being patrolled by a New Page Patroller? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 1521:2803, 1031 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by BDOklahoma24ProfZacchaeus ==
{{Lafc|username=BDOklahoma24ProfZacchaeus|ts=1521:2803, 1031 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Clark_BrewsterGUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
Hello,
Hi, I understand there is a waiting period for drafts to be reviewed. Since making a revised version of this draft back in May, I have been waiting for it be reviewed. I have made all suggested edits, and I would like to know if there is anything more I can do/revise for the editors to get this published. I really appreciate your help in advance. [[User:BDOklahoma24|BDOklahoma24]] ([[User talk:BDOklahoma24|talk]]) 15:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
:{{u|BDOklahoma24}} There is nothing you can do to speed up the review process, which is conducted by volunteers, reviewing drafts in no particular order. Please be patient. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:33, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::Understood. Thank you for your reply. [[User:BDOklahoma24|BDOklahoma24]] ([[User talk:BDOklahoma24|talk]]) 15:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
== 15:39, 10 September 2024 review of submission by 94.20.97.6 ==
{{Lafc|username=94.20.97.6|ts=15:39, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Living-Off-the-Land_(LOTL)_Attack}}
Can you say what is exactly problem about my article or which parts ? [[Special:Contributions/94.20.97.6|94.20.97.6]] ([[User talk:94.20.97.6|talk]]) 15:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:PleaseI seeam thea messagesnewbie leftbut bya thepassionate reviewersone onat thethat. draft,Thank these make it very clear.you [[User:331dotProfZacchaeus|331dotProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:331dotProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 1521:4003, 1031 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
== 16:11, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Sara246santos ==
:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Sara246santos|ts=16:11, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Kenneth_Breuer}}
I am trying to get this page accepted. I have integrated the feedback I've received over several iterations of the document. There are citations/references from primary, secondary and tertiary sources. Please give me detailed feedback on what other changes must be made to re-submit the page. [[User:Sara246santos|Sara246santos]] ([[User talk:Sara246santos|talk]]) 16:11, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
= September 1 =
:That is precisely what "review" is for. We do not generally do "pre-reviews" on this page. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:23, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 1605:2922, 101 September 20242025 review of submission by Rex Villaflor濵島 ==
{{Lafc|username=Rex Villaflor濵島|ts=1605:2922, 101 September 20242025|draft=Draft:Muddy_BitesYOHO_BREWING}}
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Please enlighten me about the issue at hand. I am comparing the entry to other entries like in this following link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Crunch
Is it really not worthy for this Muddy Bites product to be included in Wikipedia? [[User:Rex Villaflor|Rex Villaflor]] ([[User talk:Rex Villaflor|talk]]) 16:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Rex Villaflor|Rex Villaflor]] {{declined}} for the same reasons I have sent [[Abbey Crunch]] for a deletion discussion. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 16:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::That's good to know. Here are other entities of the same category:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyar_Ananda_Bhavan
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elma_Chips
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamba_(snack)
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takis_(snack)
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambeanos
::May I know what's the difference of having these entries listed where in fact they are both types of snacks like Muddy Bites. [[User:Rex Villaflor|Rex Villaflor]] ([[User talk:Rex Villaflor|talk]]) 17:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Rex Villaflor}} [[WP:WAX|You cannot use the existence, absence, or condition of other tangentially-related articles to argue for your own.]] Bambinos, Bamba, and Adyar all [[User:Jéské Couriano/A brief history of AfC|predate AfC]] (2005, 2004, and 2009, respectively) and neither of the others were ever drafted, being created directly in mainspace by autoconfirmed users. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 1711:1714, 101 September 20242025 review of submission by HelloMynameiseatAmir Gull1 ==
{{Lafc|username=HelloMynameiseatAmir Gull1|ts=1711:1714, 101 September 20242025|draft=Draft:KrabbyPattyAmir_Gull_Timuri}}
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
I am trying to make my company famous what the fuck do you want [[User:HelloMynameiseat|HelloMynameiseat]] ([[User talk:HelloMynameiseat|talk]]) 17:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
:We have no interest in making your company famous. Wikipedia does not lead, it follows- your company must already meet the [[WP:ORG|definition of a notable company]] as shown by coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to merit an article here. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. If you want to promote your company, hire an advertising agency. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 18:40, 10 September 2024 review of submission by 5.177.139.18 ==
{{Lafc|username=5.177.139.18|ts=18:40, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:D4-D}}
Draft:D4-D
[[Special:Contributions/5.177.139.18|5.177.139.18]] ([[User talk:5.177.139.18|talk]]) 18:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
:That's not a question.
:And when you've been blocked, you're not allowed to edit, even from an IP address. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 18:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 19:03, 10 September 2024 review of submission by BretDvr ==
{{Lafc|username=BretDvr|ts=19:03, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:PolyAI}}
I have added several external sources discussing PolyAI and its offerings, and it is still being rejected. Is there a particular type of article or publication you're looking for that could help this page get published? Would you prefer more general articles about the company or more articles about specific products?
:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your help,
== 15:54, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 89.101.68.143 ==
Bret [[User:BretDvr|BretDvr]] ([[User talk:BretDvr|talk]]) 19:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=89.101.68.143|ts=15:54, 1 September 2025|draft=User:Michael_miron123/sandbox}}
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:The awards are meaningless in terms of notability, as they lack articles themselves(like [[Academy Award]] or [[Nobel Peace Prize]]).
:We are looking for sources that describe what they see that makes the company notable, see [[WP:ORG]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 2016:4531, 101 September 20242025 review of submission by JcrcbostonMguenego.usparis ==
{{Lafc|username=JcrcbostonMguenego.usparis|ts=2016:4531, 101 September 20242025|draft=Draft:Ström_Paris}}
CanHello! youI'd helplike meto editknow if my draft? Iis amokay writingand oncan behalfbe ofpublished JCRC? BostonOr as we do not have a Wikipedia page, soif I wouldstill appreciateneed ifto ado Wikipediasome editormodifications could add and edit things? inThanks a more neutral fashionlot. [[User:JcrcbostonMguenego.usparis|JcrcbostonMguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:JcrcbostonMguenego.usparis|talk]]) 2016:4531, 101 September 20242025 (UTC)
:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jcrcboston|Jcrcboston]] We do not accept co-editing requests here. We offer help. If you feel that your organisation merits a page I suggest youi wait for someone to wrote it. If you insist in writing it yourself please declare your paid editing and comply with all aspects of [[WP:PAID]] 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 21:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::User blocked. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 2018:5222, 101 September 20242025 review of submission by AbhiramakellaChangingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=AbhiramakellaChangingwormhole|ts=2018:5222, 101 September 20242025|draft=Draft:Tom_Brady_Patriots_Hall_of_Fame_Induction_CeremonyV-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
I did include reliable sources. [[User:Abhiramakella|Abhiramakella]] ([[User talk:Abhiramakella|talk]]) 20:52, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:You resubmitted it; usually one asks for help first. The reviewer will leave you feedback.
:The draft was clearly written by a Patriots or at least Brady fan. We shouldn't be able to tell this from reading it, it should have a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. Language like "highly anticipated" in the first line should be removed.
:The only sources just document the occurrence of this event. You need sources that discuss what makes this [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]; I suspect most of the notable stuff could go in Brady's article. I'm not sure being inducted into a team HOF is notable.(teams can honor anyone they see fit for any reason). Maybe when Canton decides to induct him. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:10, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:Notable attendees should only list people, not general categories. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
== 22:16, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Professorincryptography ==
{{Lafc|username=Professorincryptography|ts=22:16, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Cyber_privacy}}
Hello,
I hope this message finds you well. I have a few questions regarding the use of images and sources in my article, and I would greatly appreciate your guidance to ensure I follow Wikipedia's standards correctly:
1. I created a simple diagram [[File:Graphical-Summary-of-Cyber-Internet-Digital-Based-on-NSPD-ISO-NIST-USC.jpg|This diagram provides a factual summary of key concepts from ISO/IEC 27032, NIST, CNSSI, NSPD-54, and 18 USC 1030 regarding the distinctions between cyber, internet, digital, and related systems.]], which provides a factual summary of key concepts from ISO/IEC 27032, NIST, CNSSI, NSPD-54, and 18 USC 1030. The diagram clarifies distinctions between "cyber," "internet," "digital," and related systems. This is not original research, but rather a summary from reliable sources. Can I use this image to address a reviewer's comment that the difference between "cyber" and "digital" is unclear? The sources I used either directly reference "cyber privacy" or have been cited by secondary sources that define the term "cyber privacy."
I’m uncertain about including the image because I uploaded it to Wikipedia Commons as "my own work." My role was solely in creating a visual representation of concepts that are fully supported by the sources, which I don’t consider original research. However, I am concerned that reviewers might interpret it as such, given that they’ve previously raised concerns about other aspects of the article that I believed were adequately sourced. That’s why I’m being cautious and seeking clarification on whether using this image is appropriate.
2. In response to recurring reviewer feedback questioning the credibility of the "neologism" (e.g., "cyber privacy"), I would like to include an image from an open-access research paper, cited as follows:
{{cite journal | last=Eltahawy | first=Bahaa | title=Understanding Cyberprivacy: Context, Concept, and Issues | journal=Wirtschaftsinformatik 2022 Proceedings | year=2022 | url=https://aisel.aisnet.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1025&context=wi2022}}
The paper explores concepts relevant to the reviewer's concerns, specifically addressing whether "cyber privacy" is a distinct concept, by reviewing over 200 articles that use the term. It also provides visual illustrations, which I believe could enhance the article. After reviewing Wikipedia Commons' guidelines on images, I encountered some conflicting information. On the one hand, it appears I can use images with full credit if they are free to share, but on the other hand, it suggests I should avoid uploading screenshots of others' work. Since this paper is publicly accessible in PDF format, I was wondering whether uploading a screenshot from it can be considered a "visual citation" as opposed to a "text citation," given that I will fully credit the author. Would it be necessary for me to contact the author for explicit permission, or is the use of such an image permissible within Wikipedia’s guidelines?
3. A reviewer has commented that sections like "Entities and Contributors to Cyber Privacy," "Critics of Cyber Privacy Advocacy," "Key Components of Cyber Privacy," and "Challenges and Future Directions" require additional sources. However, in these paragraphs I have provided approximately 30 diverse and (I believed) reliable sources, including official documents, standards, press releases, reports from businesses, and research articles. In some cases, I confirmed facts from multiple sources to ensure accuracy. My intent was to follow Wikipedia's standards and present verifiable information, while leaving some sections partially filled as "placeholders" for future contributions from the community. Could you help identify which specific sources or sections might be undermining the credibility of the information? I’ve carefully vetted my sources, but since they have been flagged by the reviewers as not sufficiently credible, I would greatly appreciate concrete examples of what may be lacking or not compliant with Wikipedia’s standards. Despite reviewing the guidelines multiple times and my long experience with Wikipedia as a reader, I'm struggling to pinpoint the exact issues.
4. Lastly, I apologize for any unintended "essay tone" or "research tone" in my writing. As English is not my first language, I am actively working to align my contributions with Wikipedia's tone and style. I would be grateful for any guidance on improving this aspect. If I may add a brief comment, I sometimes find the quantity of rules and their interpretation by reviewers overwhelming. While I don’t always agree with the reviewers' perspectives, I want to emphasize that I am doing my best to follow the guidelines in good faith and with full respect for Wikipedia's standards.
Thank you very much for your time and consideration. I look forward to learning from your feedback. [[User:Professorincryptography|Professorincryptography]] ([[User talk:Professorincryptography|talk]]) 22:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:Haven't dug into the rest, but I would consider the image to absolutely be [[WP:OR]]. The fact is that your image is ''your'' interpretation of the underlying facts as a visualization. Whether it's a valid interpretation of the information or not is irrelevant here. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 23:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
::I appreciate your response and respect your opinion. However, I would like to clarify a few points. The idea of a 'visual representation' was not originally mine. A similar image exists in one of the documents I cite, although I neither copied it nor used all the information from that source. Additionally, there are other 'visual representations' of these concepts (for example [https://www.iso27001security.com/assets/images/autogen/27032-scope-diagram-extended-by-GH.jpg]) by different authors, some of which I believe are incorrect. While these representations may meet Wikipedia’s verifiability standards, they do not seem reliable, which is why I avoided using them.
::That said, I understand your point about [[WP:OR]]. Although the image is a summary of the sources I cited, I acknowledge that creating my own visual representation could fall outside of Wikipedia's best practices: '' "The best practice is to research the most reliable sources on the topic and summarize what they say in your own '''words'''" ''. I see now that recommends summarizing reliable sources in one's own words, and while it doesn't explicitly prohibit images, I accept that textual summaries are preferred.
::However, I believe there is some nuance to this. Much of Wikipedia’s content involves the summarization of information, which naturally may include some degree of 'interpretation.' I would politely ask for further consideration of whether my image is indeed 'my interpretation' or a 'summarization' of the sources, after verifying the references I’ve cited. Again, I didn't see that "summarisation" in a for of image is prohibited.
::In other words—and I apologize for not phrasing this more directly—I wasn’t seeking a general answer about images on Wikipedia, but rather whether this specific image, in the opinion of the community, reflects an interpretation of the cited sources or a valid summarization. To my mind, this involves engaging with the sources themselves. If the community does not have the time to look into this in detail, I completely understand and accept that without criticism.
::Additionally, I wanted to ask if, since my question was partially addressed by an administrator, I should expect the remaining points to be reviewed as well. Or would it be better to ask them again in a new post, making them more concise and clear? [[User:Professorincryptography|Professorincryptography]] ([[User talk:Professorincryptography|talk]]) 01:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not an administrator. I'm just a regular ol' editor, but remember, the only difference between an editor and an administrator is that administrator's have access to specific tools because they have been entrusted with those tools by the community. I don't think the graphic was a ''bad'' one and it would be useful in, say, something you wrote on a blogging or publishing platform. But generally speaking, my line is when something requires the reliability of the source to be transferred to the reliability of the editor.
:::I know it's not satisfying, but when reliable sources aren't as good as we hope, then at the end of the day, the articles simply aren't as good as we hope, because verifiability is more important than truth. Wikipedia's goals are different in this manner than, say, the motivation of academia. This can sometimes lead to some odd edge cases, especially when you're editing an article in an area in which you have expertise.
:::I'm sure someone will respond to the rest; the topic is a bit out of my wheelhouse. This is a volunteer project, so it can take some time for people to get through something that's very information dense. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 04:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 22:26, 10 September 2024 review of submission by Operaobscura ==
{{Lafc|username=Operaobscura|ts=22:26, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Carl Friedrich Oberle}}
Hi, I am an opera fan and realized in my search for Carl Friedrich Oberle that the page doesn't exist. He is possibly the most globally active opera designer and has put on shows at many of the most famous opera houses in the world and has a large fan base amongst people in the arts. He has worked with some of the most well known directors of their time and has influenced the way stage design is studied today at University. His works are described in scientific publications. While I completely agree that autobiographies need to be discouraged on wikipedia, a person of his statue is of true public interest to the field. I am very confused why someone would reject this page. They person who reviewed it must not understand that for a designer to do more than 2 productions a year is rather rare, having more than 200 productions is a feat similar to that of world renowned athletes breaking records. [[User:Operaobscura|Operaobscura]] ([[User talk:Operaobscura|talk]]) 22:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:It's certainly much improved without that long list. Having more than 200 productions does sound impressive to this layman, but we don't need to list each individual one. It's enough to say Hank Aaron hit 755 home runs; Wikipedia doesn't have to list all 755 of them. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 04:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:WIkipedia articles go on what the reliable independent sources say, not on what you (or I, or any random person on the Internet) think. If a reliable independent source talks about his having done 200 productions, then the article can. If not, then it shouldn't. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:06, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 22:59, 10 September 2024 review of submission by MIG editor ==
{{Lafc|username=MIG editor|ts=22:59, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:KyotoUSA}}
I am hoping to gain more specific information about why my article submission has been declined, and whether there is any chance tht it might be acceptted with revisions. [[User:MIG editor|MIG editor]] ([[User talk:MIG editor|talk]]) 22:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|MIG editor}} A lot of your draft is unreferenced, with several claims that completely lack any sort of supporting citations. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 01:26, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 23:22, 10 September 2024 review of submission by 199.242.176.66 ==
{{Lafc|username=199.242.176.66|ts=23:22, 10 September 2024|draft=Draft:Forponia11486}}
Can you explain how the content can be improved? [[Special:Contributions/199.242.176.66|199.242.176.66]] ([[User talk:199.242.176.66|talk]]) 23:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
:It's not likely that it can be, which is why it was rejected and will not be considered further. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:53, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
= September 11 =
== 02:12, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Gorinu ==
{{Lafc|username=Gorinu|ts=02:12, 11 September 2024|draft=Abdulla al-Nuaimi}}
My draft was declined saying 'This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people).'
But i have used reliable sources like news and verified websites. how ca i get my page approved
[[User:Gorinu|Gorinu]] ([[User talk:Gorinu|talk]]) 02:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Gorinu}} Government documents (including court documents) are not acceptable sources by dint of them being [[WP:PRIMARY|primary sources]]. [[WP:Reliable sources|Secondary sources are hard-required.]] —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 02:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for replying Jeske,but i didnt included any court documents in the Draft, can you be more specific please [[User:Gorinu|Gorinu]] ([[User talk:Gorinu|talk]]) 02:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Gorinu}} Did you even read your sources? Reference 3 is a literal [[motion to dismiss]] filed by the [[United States Department of Justice]], and you include a large number of documents from the [[Office for the Administrative Review of the Detention of Enemy Combatants]] which are intended to be used in connexion with military [[tribunal]]s. You also cite the [[United States Department of Defense]] and the [[Congressional Research Service]], both of which are ''also'' government bodies and thus any document they produce is also primary. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 07:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Jéské, I think the problem here is that the link above isn't correct because of redirect antics. The draft being referred to is not [[Abdulla_Majid_Al_Naimi]], the Bahraini national interred at Gitmo, but to that of [[Draft:Abdulla_Al_Nuaimi]], a CEO in the UAE. It's still not sourced well at all, but for slightly different reasons of inadequacy. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 09:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Most of the sources provided don't even mention Al Nuaimi and only a speaking profile and his dissertation go any farther (and aren't really notable sources). You need detailed ''independent'' coverage of ''him'', not simply basic business reports involving SecureTech. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 04:18, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 06:11, 11 September 2024 review of submission by 146.255.74.198 ==
{{Lafc|username=146.255.74.198|ts=06:11, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Association_for_Community_Colleges}}
It has been interesting to do the research behind this article. It is less interesting to spend time on trying to guess which rules and rejections weigh the most. Let's see if some other contributors wish to try and figure it out. I am out for now. If nothing happens, please just delete it all. It will be issued elsewhere. I am sure there are good reasons for the rejections. I just don't understand it, and perhaps there are unofficial (good) reasons? Keep up the good work. Wikipedia is seriously what we need these days. [[Special:Contributions/146.255.74.198|146.255.74.198]] ([[User talk:146.255.74.198|talk]]) 06:11, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:It has been declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. Please see the comments left by reviewers. As it's hard to find drafts unless you already know they exist, the only one who can improve it is you. If you do nothing, it will be deleted after six months of inactivity. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::My (and other contributors) attempts to find a balance between your rules, your comments and what is truly noteworthy have been rejected ;-) I give up. I will delete my part sooner, unless the other contributors decide to continue. [[Special:Contributions/146.255.74.198|146.255.74.198]] ([[User talk:146.255.74.198|talk]]) 08:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Once you click "publish changes", the edit belongs to Wikipedia; you can't just remove your contributions just because. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see. I wanted to remove them, because I think I have compromised too much. Anyway, not too important, if it disappears in half a year. [[Special:Contributions/146.255.74.198|146.255.74.198]] ([[User talk:146.255.74.198|talk]]) 08:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 06:45, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Rafiqulalam007 ==
{{Lafc|username=Rafiqulalam007|ts=06:45, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Daffodil International Academy}}
May I get any help from some one because I can't understand why my article is declain ? [[User:Rafiqulalam007|Rafiqulalam007]] ([[User talk:Rafiqulalam007|talk]]) 06:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Rafiqulalam007|Rafiqulalam007]]: it has been declined because your sources are primary, and what's more, close to the subject. We don't want to hear what the organisation or its affiliates say about it, we want to hear what independent and reliable third parties (mainly secondary sources) have said about it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::Oh sorry, Maybe I have selected wrong. I am not the primary sources and no relation with this Academy. So, What I can do now ? [[User:Rafiqulalam007|Rafiqulalam007]] ([[User talk:Rafiqulalam007|talk]]) 06:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Rafiqulalam007|Rafiqulalam007]]: I meant that your draft cites only close primary sources, whether or not you're affiliated with this organisation yourself. See [[WP:ORG]] for details of the sort of sources we need. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion for it to work properly. How did you come to edit about this academy if you have no affiliation to it? You didn't pick it at random. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 07:22, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::I saw it at Panthapath, Dhaka. And I knew that it is a very good institution those who affiliated with Greenwich University and NCC Programs. Lots of students are graduated from Greenwich University and from this academy I have known. they are well establish in UK and other countries as well. [[User:Rafiqulalam007|Rafiqulalam007]] ([[User talk:Rafiqulalam007|talk]]) 07:29, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 08:01, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Joshakatz ==
{{Lafc|username=Joshakatz|ts=08:01, 11 September 2024|draft=User:Joshakatz/sandbox}}
I’m trying to write a Wikipedia page about my 12+ year photographic career And what to do everything I can to guarantee it will be published
This is the first time I’ve tried this so any help is greatly appreciated.
[[User:Joshakatz|Joshakatz]] ([[User talk:Joshakatz|talk]]) 08:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Joshakatz|Joshakatz]]: your various drafts, apart from [[Draft:Joshakatz]], have been deleted. Please don't create multiple copies of the same draft, as that can be considered spamming.
:What's more, you shouldn't be writing about yourself at all, see [[WP:AUTOBIO]].
:You are also not allowed to promote anything, including yourself. These drafts were purely promotional (see [[WP:YESPROMO]]), because they were you saying what you wanted to say about yourself, rather than being based on summaries of what independent and reliable secondary sources have said about you, as Wikipedia articles should be.
:My strong advice would be not to go down this road any further, because you're already getting close to being blocked for self-promotion, and to instead continue pursuing your photography career until someone, entirely unconnected to you, will one day write an article about you based on published sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 09:14, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Talltrees1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Talltrees1|ts=09:14, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Georgia_Fendley}}
Only 0.1% of creative agencies are owned by women and the number of agencies with female creative directors is about 11%. When looking for wikipedia pages of other female graphic designers, there were only 19. Therefore, this article about Georgia Fendley is relevant because women like Georgia tend to be reserved about their accomplishments, which means they don’t always receive the recognition they deserve as designers.
She has featured in numerous articles and has made significant impacts over her career, such as; during her time at Mulberry with Emma Hill, when the company’s turnover tripled and the share price rose from £1.50 to a high of £26.00. She has also been responsible for over 20 highly regarded brand identities, she really is an unsung leader in her field. I think Wikipedia should recognise people like this. [[User:Talltrees1|Talltrees1]] ([[User talk:Talltrees1|talk]]) 09:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Talltrees1|Talltrees1]]: [[WP:Righting great wrongs|Righting great wrongs]] is a noble pursuit (even if it isn't quite the objective of Wikipedia), and there is certainly a lot to be righted in what comes to systemic gender bias, but alas, this draft does not meet our notability criteria and has therefore been rejected. In any case, I don't think you actually asked a question, so I'm unsure what else I could help you with? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:: (ec) {{u|Talltrees1}} Wikipedia is not intended as a form of recognition for someone and their achievements. It's not an award(quite the opposite, actually, see [[WP:PROUD]]). If this person isn't appropriately covered in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], they can't merit an article here, [[WP:AKON|no amount of editing can confer notability]] on a topic. If the reason that there is little coverage is that the person doesn't put themselves out there- we can't control that, and they can't get a pass on sourcing guidelines because of it. I would suggest that you go to the [[WP:WIRED|Women in Red project]] where you might be able to get some advice and guidance specific to what it is you are trying to do. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 09:48, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Nigel PG Dale ==
{{Lafc|username=Nigel PG Dale|ts=09:48, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:William_Hammerton_Smith}}
Having addressed comments back in May 2024 and waited nearly four months, it is unreasonable to have this draft rejected on the grounds of "not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia". The decision is highly subjective from someone I guess who hasn't followed the story of Bill Smith from 1996 to 2024 and onwards. Bill Smith's endeavours ensured that Donald Campbell, an important figure in the UK, was recovered from the lake bed of Coniston Water after thirty-plus years, and laid to rest. Not only that, but in what was described by a Campbell family member as "nothing short of a miracle" Bill Smith with his Bluebird Project meticulously rebuild Bluebird K7 over a twenty-three year period. How can such an achievement be "not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia"? This is to say nothing of Smith's other achievements in the pioneering of sides-can sonar deep water searches. Please help me to reverse this unfair rejection. [[User:Nigel PG Dale|Nigel PG Dale]] 09:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Nigel PG Dale|Nigel PG Dale]]: we don't need to have "followed the story of Bill Smith", that's not how drafts are assessed. We evaluate them with reference to the applicable policies and guidelines.
:Anyway, you have the necessary user rights to publish this yourself, if you disagree with the reviewer's (reviewers') assessment. Just move it to the main space, and clear out the AfC templates; NPP will then assess it instead. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Nigel PG Dale}} Just be aware that if you ''do'' move it into mainspace, you accept all the consequences that arise from doing that, up to and including deletion. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 15:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:02, 11 September 2024 review of submission by 172.58.182.175 ==
{{Lafc|username=172.58.182.175|ts=14:02, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Naheem_Houston}}
Assistance needed with draft for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Naheem_Houston
Issue: This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject. [[Special:Contributions/172.58.182.175|172.58.182.175]] ([[User talk:172.58.182.175|talk]]) 14:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, that's why the draft was declined. Did you have a question, IP editor? [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 15:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:12, 11 September 2024 review of submission by F Ayyub ==
{{Lafc|username=F Ayyub|ts=14:12, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:FAYSAL_AYYUB}}
Good evening!
Dear Sir. could I know what is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia? You know I have no idea about it. I would love to get your expert opinions. Please help me! I need your loving cooperation! Thanks, in advance!
Best regards,
FAYSAL AYYUB [[User:F Ayyub|F Ayyub]] ([[User talk:F Ayyub|talk]]) 14:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:F Ayyub|F Ayyub]]. As the comment left by the reviewer states, Wikipedia is not a social media website like LinkedIn or a blog. We host articles about notable topics. Your draft was just a bio about you, this isn't appropriate for Wikipedia. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:21, 11 September 2024 review of submission by SKumar58 ==
{{Lafc|username=SKumar58|ts=14:21, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bigil_Toks}}
ill summit the reliable sources kindly publish the page [[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] ([[User talk:SKumar58|talk]]) 14:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:21, 11 September 2024 review of submission by SKumar58 ==
{{Lafc|username=SKumar58|ts=14:21, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bigil_Toks}}
ill summit the reliable sources; kindly publish the page [[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] ([[User talk:SKumar58|talk]]) 14:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] Draft has been rejected, and will not be published. There are no reliable sources evident. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 14:44:59, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Sparkbean ==
{{Lafc|username=Sparkbean|ts=14:44:59, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Wizards of Waverly Pod}}
My edit submission was declined, although I only used two reliable sources. [[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]] ([[User talk:Sparkbean|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]], your sources may be reliable but it didn't prove notability. We're looking for significant coverage in three or more ''independent ''reliable sources. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Qcne|Qcne]], Variety was one of my sources, but I'll expand the draft and add more. [[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]] ([[User talk:Sparkbean|talk]]) 14:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I added some more sources to my draft. Does it need more review? [[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]] ([[User talk:Sparkbean|talk]]) 15:21, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]] feel free to re-submit for review :) <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::I’ll add more sources first. [[User:Sparkbean|Sparkbean]] ([[User talk:Sparkbean|talk]]) 23:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 15:32, 11 September 2024 review of submission by WikiAccount1777 ==
{{Lafc|username=WikiAccount1777|ts=15:32, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Christian Liedtke}}
Hi there, the article was rejected. Question: the problem was that you need "reliable, secondary sources, independent of the subject" or something else? If it is about reliable sources: I gave references but I guess these are not sufficient? [[User:WikiAccount1777|WikiAccount1777]] ([[User talk:WikiAccount1777|talk]]) 15:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|WikiAccount1777}} [[WP:Biographies of living persons|You ''cannot'' just slap a bunch of references on the end of a biography of a living person and call it good.]] You need to [[Help:Referencing for beginners|properly cite your sources in-line]], at claims they can explicitly support. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 15:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 15:40, 11 September 2024 review of submission by 2601:80:C983:F7C0:C808:DA82:9465:E9A1 ==
{{Lafc|username=2601:80:C983:F7C0:C808:DA82:9465:E9A1|ts=15:40, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:The_Princeton-Blairstown_Center}}
Hello,
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
I was hoping for additional guidance to edit the article I submitted. I appreciate the feedback provided and would like to share my plan for revisions.
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
I would first review the article and remove any messaging that might be deemed self-promotion to ensure the article is 100% fact-based. I would then shorten the sections about programs and remove most if not all sources that link to the organization's website. Virtually all sources would be external. Do you think this would make the article more likely to be approved?
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
Given the long history of the organization and its impact on the racial integration of Princeton University, I firmly believe the Princeton-Blairstown Center is worthy of a Wikipedia article. Given the structure and sourcing of another page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Ralph_S._Mason), it seems like Princeton-Blairstown Center certainly meets your criteria.
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
*I fixed your header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 19:11, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Don Wanyama Off ==
Thank you!
{{Lafc|username=Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:11, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
Scott McKelvey
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2601:80:C983:F7C0:C808:DA82:9465:E9A1|2601:80:C983:F7C0:C808:DA82:9465:E9A1]] ([[User talk:2601:80:C983:F7C0:C808:DA82:9465:E9A1|talk]]) 15:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:This reads more like a [[WP:SPAM|brochure for potential students]] rather than a neutral encyclopaedia article. As the reviewer noted, the vast majority of your sources are also [[WP:PRIMARY|to Princeton or the Centre itself]], which do not help for notability and are useless for any claims a reasonable person could challenge. We also do not accept the [[WP:COPYVIO|extensive quotes]] you have in the draft. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 15:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:* [[WP:QUACK]] - SPI filed [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 19:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 17:07, 11 September 2024 review of submission by 94.20.97.62 ==
{{Lafc|username=94.20.97.6|ts=17:07, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Living-Off-the-Land_(LOTL)_Attack}}
I would like to know why my article is rejected. What is the problem exactly ? [[Special:Contributions/94.20.97.6|94.20.97.6]] ([[User talk:94.20.97.6|talk]]) 17:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 01:00, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Asf132 ==
:{{tq|This crosses between [[WP:NOTHOWTO]] and [[WP:NOTESSAY]]. In addition, most of the sources are not reliable (blogs, [[WP:FORBESCON]], commercial sites, conference proceedings, etc.). If resubmitted without substantial improvement with both the content and sourcing, the draft may be rejected meaning it will not longer be considered.}} Verbatim, with links in original, comment from the last reviewer. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Asf132|ts=01:00, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Rao Mulpuri}}
:You asked this question yesterday. Will this be a daily habit? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 17:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 17:23, 11 September 2024 review of submission by GNVquant ==
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=GNVquant|ts=17:23, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Direct_Listing}}
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I have been advised that 1) "direct listing" should be merged with 2) "direct public offering". I disagree. These are two completely separate ways for a private operating company to go public, along with 3) an initial public offering, 4) merging with a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC), or 5) doing a reverse merger. Options 1, 3, and 4 typically involve the private operating company raising cash in the process. Options 2 and 5 typically do not involve raising cash. Direct public offerings usually involve tiny companies, but direct listings have included huge companies such as Palantir Technologies ($70 billion market cap) and Coinbase Global ($40 billion market cap). All five of these methods for going public deserve their own entries. [[User:GNVquant|GNVquant]] ([[User talk:GNVquant|talk]]) 17:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 02:01, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Elesha1188 ==
:@[[User:GNVquant|GNVquant]] You have provided the technical distinction here. Have you expressed that distinction in the draft ''with a citation that verifies that''? I have not visited the draft to check. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 20:15, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Elesha1188|ts=02:01, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 17:51, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Instigo1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Instigo1|ts=17:51, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Vishen}}
Vishen is a clan of rajputs and I just made an draft for it , but I don't know why the draft is declined for the submission, I published the Reliable references which connects Bisen or Vishen rajputs to Malla Mahajanapad, and I didn't add any other info. [[User:Instigo1|Instigo1]] ([[User talk:Instigo1|talk]]) 17:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 04:04, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Goldface2009 ==
:@[[User:Instigo1|Instigo1]] While you have three references (which I have not checked) you have not assi=ociated the directly with the fact you wish to verify, and it is unfair to expect reviewers to work out what you mean. Please read [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:REFB]] for help 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 20:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Goldface2009|ts=04:04, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Goldface2009/sandbox}}
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 18:13, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Jattlife121 ==
{{Lafc|username=Jattlife121|ts=18:13, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sant_Isher_Singh}}
I’ve been working on this draft for over a year, but it keeps getting rejected despite using numerous reliable sources. I’ve successfully created 15-16 other Wikipedia pages, but this one has been particularly challenging to get reviewed. The individual passed away in 1980, so there aren't many newspaper reports available outside of India. However, he is extensively referenced in books about Sikhism. Additionally, the Sikh Gurdwara he founded is already featured on Wikipedia. Could you please advise on what needs to be done to get this draft approved? [[User:Jattlife121|Jattlife121]] ([[User talk:Jattlife121|talk]]) 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
:It was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft submission process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means it may be resubmitted, and you did so, so the next reviewer will leave you feedback. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 19:33, 11 September 2024 review of submission by 71.219.162.143 ==
{{Lafc|username=71.219.162.143|ts=19:33, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Canadian_Club_Corporation}}
Hello! I am understanding that a new article for this soda company that was in business for 15 or more years is not of enough interest for a new Wikipedia article? Doing a Google search I found about 5 web pages concerning Canadian Club Corporation. Not much. My interest for this new article is that I found a soda bottle with label (pictured in AFC) for Canadian Club Corporation and looked for it on Wikipedia and did not find it. I thought to myself, I could make the article on Wiki with what I know about the bottle/label/company and invite others to add what they may know. I thought it could add to my knowledge. Thank you for helping with my question. Jim K. [[Special:Contributions/71.219.162.143|71.219.162.143]] ([[User talk:71.219.162.143|talk]]) 19:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
== Requesting Review for Draft:Dhiman (Caste) ==
:Sorry Jim, but Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate database of information and every company to have ever existed: we only host articles on topic we deem notable. Notability is easiest proven through the use of indepth coverage in several independent reliable sources. It looks like this company doesn't meet that threshold. Maybe post about it on a personal blog instead? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">Qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you Qcne. Beautifully put! At least this releases me of the trouble of running my head up against the wall a number of times more. Thank you! What I was finding with this particular product by Canadian Club Corporation was that it seems they were copying another company's idea and was caught at it in a court of law. A story about the soda business of the past was presenting itself as I was trying to put this article together. Thank you for your reply! Jim [[Special:Contributions/71.219.162.143|71.219.162.143]] ([[User talk:71.219.162.143|talk]]) 19:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello! I have created and submitted a draft article titled '''[[Draft:Dhiman (Caste)]]'''. I have done my best to follow Wikipedia's guidelines regarding notability, neutrality, and sourcing.
== 22:59, 11 September 2024 review of submission by Warezalex911 ==
{{Lafc|username=Warezalex911|ts=22:59, 11 September 2024|draft=Draft:Daniel_Bird}}
Hi,
I would appreciate it if an editor could take a look and provide feedback or review it for publication. Thank you for your time and help!
I keep seeing that this page is rejected, despite linking to media organisations and websites about Daniel Bird and his career / television appearances. Any guidance would be great. [[User:Warezalex911|Warezalex911]] ([[User talk:Warezalex911|talk]]) 22:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]] ([[User talk:Indiauser1971|talk]]) 08:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Rejected, as opposed to just declined, means that resubmission is not possible. You just documented his work, not summarized significant coverage of him in independent sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
:You have submitted it for review and it is pending. Please be aware of the rules when editing about social groups in India- I will post them to your user talk page- probably you shouldn't have created this draft at all- but if it is accepted, you cannot edit it again until your account is extended-confirmed(30 days old with 500 edits) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
= September 12 =
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