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== 0201:2607, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by GeorgiarosecookeMylesContributes ==

{{Lafc|username=GeorgiarosecookeMylesContributes|ts=0201:2607, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:GS33DDOE777Page Denial}}

I would like to know why my page was denied, thanks! [[User:MylesContributes|MylesContributes]] ([[User talk:MylesContributes|talk]]) 01:07, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

:Hello, @[[User:MylesContributes|MylesContributes]]. Your sandbox [[User:MylesContributes/sandbox]] was declined (which means it could be submitted again if you edit it to address the problems) becuase it does not have a single independent source.

I am wondering why the Biography got rejected from submission? What could I change? What should I put in a Biography on Wikipedia? What shouldn't I put in a Biography on Wikipedia?

:A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish ''about'' the subject in reliable publications, and not much else.

:If you do not have several sources each of which meets all the criterai in [[WP:42]], then no article on the subject is possible.

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:40, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 02:45, 27 August 2025 review of submission by CHAOGEJILATU ==

Thankyou.

{{Lafc|username=CHAOGEJILATU|ts=02:45, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:CHAOGEJILATU}}

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and my draft article about the scientist "CHAOGEJILATU" was recently declined. The reason given was that there is not enough significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.

As a beginner, I would greatly appreciate kind advice from experienced editors:

Sincerely,

Georgia Rose Cooke [[User:Georgiarosecooke|Georgiarosecooke]] ([[User talk:Georgiarosecooke|talk]]) 02:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

- What kinds of sources would be sufficient to demonstrate notability for a scientist?

:The entirety of this article is simply (presumably) your name and a bunch of SEO words. It's not written in an encyclopedic fashion and is completely unsourced. And realistically, there's no content ''to'' source since it's just a list of buzzwords. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 05:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

- Are academic journal publications (where the subject is a co-author) acceptable as significant coverage, or do I need more independent media coverage such as newspapers, interviews, or magazines?

::It's worth noting attempting [[search engine optimisation]] on Wikipedia is a waste of time. All Wikipedia pages (not just articles) use [[nofollow]], which means that every search engine that complies with [[robots.txt]] will ignore outgoing links from it. And a large chunk of Wikipedia pages are [[noindex]]ed, preventing them from showing up on search engines full stop. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 07:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

- If my current references are not enough, what steps should I take to improve the draft so that it has a realistic chance of being accepted?

:A Wikipedia article about you should consist of a summary of what people wholly unconnected with you have chosen to write about you, and publish in reliable places: that is (almost) all. Furthermore, it is not in any way for your benefit (except incidentally). What you want to tell the world about yourself is utterly irrelevant to Wikipedia. Please read [[WP:an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:32, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your time and support.

== 04:34, 13 September 2024 review of submission by Tizzythewhale ==

[[User:CHAOGEJILATU|CHAOGEJILATU]] ([[User talk:CHAOGEJILATU|talk]]) 02:45, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Tizzythewhale|ts=04:34, 13 September 2024|draft=Draft:Taak}}

please review this article, i have added citations... [[User:Tizzythewhale|Tizzythewhale]] ([[User talk:Tizzythewhale|talk]]) 04:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:CHAOGEJILATU|CHAOGEJILATU]]. As you have been advised on your user talk page, writing a Wikipedia article about yourself is so extremetly difficult that you are ''strongly'' discouraged from trying.

:@[[User:Tizzythewhale|Tizzythewhale]]: the draft has been resubmitted and will be reviewed in due course. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{HD/WINI}}

:You would need to find several places where people wholly unconnected with you (or with any of your institutions) had decided to write about you, in reliable publications.

:If you can find several such sources, you would then need to effectively forget everything you know about yourself and write a neutral summary of what those sources said about you. Do you see why this is so difficult?

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} And that is even without the added problems of writing about yourself. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:47, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

::There are topics that may fail a strict application of [[WP:GNG]] but might be notable by other measures. [[WP:BAND]] offers many alternatives for music ensembles, for example.

::In this case, we have a guideline [[WP:NPROF]], which might be applicable to scientists in academia. One could also make an argument that a scientist is notable based on an influence factor, provided that influence factor is way beyond what's expected of an average scientist at that point in their career. I don't recall seeing this reasoning covered by our policies; indeed, most of the time I've seen these scores used is to argue against notability for run-of-the-mill academics.

::Winning a notable award would qualify for notability, even for a scientist who was previously obscure, although a Nobel Prize winner would probably have lots of coverage anyway as a consequence of winning the prize. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:35, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 0910:5345, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Tayyab121Kirtan kalathiya ==

{{Lafc|username=Tayyab121Kirtan kalathiya|ts=0910:5345, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:MushqKirtan_kalathiya}}

**Page title:**

Could someone please review the article and let me know if it meets the criteria for inclusion in a Wikipedia namespace?

`Draft:Kirtan_kalathiya`

**Reason for requesting assistance:**

[[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 09:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I recently submitted a draft about Kirtan Kalathiya, an Indian web developer and SEO specialist. The draft was rejected as not meeting notability guidelines and tagged as promotional. I have a declared conflict of interest (COI) since I am closely connected to the subject.

:@[[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]]: this draft has been rejected already, and will therefore not be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I would appreciate guidance on:

::i have removed the promotional content and now its ready for review you can now review it [[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 09:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

What kinds of reliable, independent sources would be considered sufficient to establish notability for this subject.

:::This was not rejected for being promotional, but for lacking evidence of notability. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

How to rewrite the draft in a more neutral, encyclopedic tone (rather than sounding like a résumé or promotional profile).

:::{{u|Tayyab121}} You say you are a professional content editor, but that you aren't paid for your contributions. Both of these things cannot be true at the same time.

Whether trimming sections such as “Skills” and “Portfolio” would make the draft more acceptable, and if I should wait until stronger sources are available before resubmitting.

:::Also, you claim to have '''personally created''' the logo of the company. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]]

::::I have listed myself as a Content Editor on my user page. I want to clarify that I have no personal or professional relationship with the company Mushq. My involvement with the article is independent and unpaid.

::::I noticed that the name "Mushq" was previously redirected to the Wikipedia page for ''[[Mushk]]'', a Pakistani drama serial. This redirection was not relevant, as "Mushq" and ''Mushk'' are completely separate entities. The content I have published provides more accurate and detailed information about the fashion brand Mushq, which is distinct from the drama serial.

::::Please review your decision of rejection after revision of Mushq article.

::::Thanks [[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 10:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::{{u|Tayyab121}} If you have no relationship with the company, why do you claim to have '''personally created''' and '''personally own the copyright to''' the logo of the company? So you're not a "professional content editor"?

:::::How did you come to edit about this company? (which, after making a few practice edits, you started editing about) You also claim to have taken an image of their store in Lahore. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::I understand that I mistakenly mentioned the content as my work. I will correct this, as the information was sourced directly from the company's website. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. [[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 10:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::::You have infringed on the company's copyright and must '''immediately''' go to Commons and request deletion of the logo. Images are not relevant to the draft process, so you don't need to worry about adding a logo yet. Logos are typically uploaded to this Wikipedia directly under "fair use" rules, which does carry some restrictions but allows for limited use in articles(not drafts).

:::::::Is the image of their store from the company website too? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] As mentioned in the initial feedback, I have revised the article to remove promotional content and added reliable sources for references. I would appreciate your review of these changes to ensure that all issues have been addressed.

::Additionally, please note that Mushq, the fashion brand, was launched in 2018, which is before the Pakistani drama serial ''[[Mushk]]'' aired in 2020. This distinction is important for clarity and context in the article.

Thank you for any advice on how I can proceed constructively within Wikipedia’s policies.

::Thank you [[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 10:15, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:::The need to differentiate the store from the TV show is not grounds to create an article. [[User:331dotKirtan kalathiya|331dotKirtan kalathiya]] ([[User talk:331dotKirtan kalathiya|talk]]) 10:4245, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]]

::::From my perspective, if a subject exists and is notable, it should not be redirected to an unrelated article. Instead, accurate and detailed information about the actual entity should be provided. This approach enhances the value and reliability of the platform.

::::This is one of sources that i have used for information.

::::https://tracxn.com/d/companies/mushq/__E5tmSq7CQJWxIJZgLPYxvEg-3psqhwHrD3SLudnMi3s

::::[[User:Tayyab121|Tayyab121]] ([[User talk:Tayyab121|talk]]) 10:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:::::The only issue is if the topic is notable- not to provide differentiation amongst other topics. In any event, this discussion is academic, as the draft was rejected and will not be considered further, as the company does not meet the [[WP:ORG|definition of a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kirtan kalathiya|Kirtan kalathiya]] It is pure [[Wikipedia:Spam|spam]] and will shortly be deleted. We have no interest in promoting your SEO spam biography. Go elsewhere. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 10:53, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:48, 13 September 2024 review of submission by SKumar58 ==

:Also keep in mind there are three outcomes to a review of a draft: accept, decline, or reject. If a reviewer accepts a draft, the reviewer publishes it for you. The "decline" outcome means the draft needs improvement before it can be accepted. The "reject" outcome means you should stop immediately, do not proceed further, this isn't an acceptable topic now or in the foreseeable future. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:41, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=SKumar58|ts=13:48, 13 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bigil_Toks}}

help me out, unable to summit the articles [[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] ([[User talk:SKumar58|talk]]) 13:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

== 14:12, 27 August 2025 review of submission by SATENDERA72 ==

:Yes, the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered any more. You have not demonstrated that the company meets the [[WP:ORG|definition of a notable company]].

{{Lafc|username=SATENDERA72|ts=14:12, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Waldia_(2)}}

:Furthermore, you have not disclosed your relationship with the company, per [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]. You claim that you '''personally created''' and '''personally own the copyright to''' the company logo. Your username also matches that of the person you say is the CEO of the company, that makes you a paid editor and the Terms of Use '''require you''' to make the paid editing disclosure. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Why you did that please let me post this article pls it's not anything wrong in it [[User:SATENDERA72|SATENDERA72]] ([[User talk:SATENDERA72|talk]]) 14:12, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

::I am not related to this company, or the person related in this article; my name is SethupathiKumar as Skumar58, I just created this account Wikipedia. interest in contributing information, this company name is related to Bigil Movies Name, I research on online then I create on the artical [[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] ([[User talk:SKumar58|talk]]) 07:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]]: did you by any chance previously edit under the Vr26studios account? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::Yes, because I am online editor, Vr26studios is my hidden stage name on content creation, then I change name SethupathiKumar to SKumar58 [[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]] ([[User talk:SKumar58|talk]]) 07:22, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::@[[User:SKumar58|SKumar58]]: given that your original (or at least earlier) account was blocked, you are not allowed to edit from any account or IP address. The block applies to you as an individual, not just to the blocked account. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:Is English the main language that you use to communicate? If not, you may find it easier to contribute in the version of Wikipedia that is in your primary language. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:31, 13 September 2024 review of submission by 198.52.165.99 ==

:@[[User:SATENDERA72|SATENDERA72]]: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further.

{{Lafc|username=198.52.165.99|ts=18:31, 13 September 2024|draft=Draft:Infinite_Universe_Theory}}

:Furthermore, you should not be editing in a contentious topic area at all, until your account is [[WP:extended confirmed|extended confirmed]], which you are fall very short of. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:17, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

::He's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SATENDERA72&diff=prev&oldid=1307467972 been told this].

::{{ping|SATENDRA72}} '''You are not allowed to edit about castes (or any other social group or strata in South Asia), full stop.''' Desist. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 16:56, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 14:30, 27 August 2025 review of submission by 185.254.35.82 ==

I was declined for my first submission of "Infinite Universe Theory" which I then resubmitted which then took me to a page that said it was declined. Is there a way to find out if my resubmission (2nd attempt) was accepted or if the second attempt was also declined and if I could get some help to edit this article for the standards that Wikipedia requires?

{{Lafc|username=185.254.35.82|ts=14:30, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ahmad_Kaawar}}

I want to know what I can add to be approved [[Special:Contributions/185.254.35.82|185.254.35.82]] ([[User talk:185.254.35.82|talk]]) 14:30, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:If you are the creator of the draft, remember to log in when posting.

Thank you

:You have been left advice by reviewers, do you have a more specific question?

:You took a very professional looking picture of Mr. Kaawar; what is your connection to him? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:32, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 14:58, 27 August 2025 review of submission by Thomas93201 ==

Viromi [[Special:Contributions/198.52.165.99|198.52.165.99]] ([[User talk:198.52.165.99|talk]]) 18:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Thomas93201|ts=14:58, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Service_Records_for_Alida_Saskatchewan}}

I am unsure why my draft is getting rejected. It feels like it is fit for wikipedia as it states information that is 100% fact, no fiction. I have not shown bias or favouritism, it simply informs people of important information about many peoples lives. [[User:Thomas93201|Thomas93201]] ([[User talk:Thomas93201|talk]]) 14:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Thomas93201}} The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.

:Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTDATABASE|not a mere database of information]]. For war veterans from this community as a group to merit a Wikipedia article, there must be independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage of the community's veterans as a distinct group, showing how it is [[WP:ORG|a notable group]], in order for it to merit an article. For the veterans individually, the same applies- each veteran must have coverage of their military career in independent reliable sources that can be summarized in an article. Government/military records are insufficient.

:If you just want to document these people, you might try social media, a website about war veterans, or other website with less stringent requirements. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:49, 27 August 2025 review of submission by IdahoChateau ==

:This appears to be a [[WP:NOR|research essay]] rather than an encyclopaedia article. I would also see [[Help:Referencing for beginners]]; we aren't fans of just slapping references on the end and prefer them to be in-line. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 18:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=IdahoChateau|ts=18:49, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ipsen_Bottle}}

Please help with draft. My first edit/creation and would like to have assistance to ensure quality content and correct references. Thank you. [[User:IdahoChateau|IdahoChateau]] ([[User talk:IdahoChateau|talk]]) 18:49, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:You don't specify what assistance you are seeking, but I can say that YouTube is generally not considered a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] as most of its content is user-generated without editorial oversight. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:55, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:37, 13 September 2024 review of submission by EZ BC ==

:I'm extremely confused by the article. You're writing an article Ipsen Bottle, but most of the cites seem more fitting for an article about its creator, and don't really talk much, if it all, about the named type of bottle. If you decided to cover the bottle, you need to provide sources ''about'' the bottle that explain why and how the bottle itself is notable. But a good place to start is to just sit and decide what you want this article to be about, and then write based on only those sources that provide significant coverage about the subject. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 05:00, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=EZ BC|ts=18:37, 13 September 2024|draft=Draft:Michael_Moses}}

It was rejecetd for unrelaible sources. I've learned that local news outlets are not deemed reliable. I've added more citations from national news sources and government sites, but is it okay to still include some local news citations for some details? [[User:EZ BC|EZ BC]] ([[User talk:EZ BC|talk]]) 18:37, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

== 21:23, 27 August 2025 review of submission by Benia Mazaheri ==

:It's not accurate as a blanket statement to say that local sources are inherently unreliable, but local sources don't usually have the reach to establish notability of a topic. The main issue is that you have merely summarized this person's activities, you have not summarized significant coverage of this person that shows they are [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. What is the influence of their advocacy as sources see it? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Benia Mazaheri|ts=21:23, 27 August 2025|draft=User:Benia_Mazaheri/sandbox}}

it has many reliable sources such as transfermarkt and used all the relaible sources so I don't know what else I can do [[User:Benia Mazaheri|Benia Mazaheri]] ([[User talk:Benia Mazaheri|talk]]) 21:23, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:Transfermarkt is not currently considered a reliable source by the community, and in case, you haven't shown Mazaheri's ''notability'' only his ''existence''. There's no source provided that cites significant coverage ''about'' him; databases that simply list his stats do not count for that. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 04:55, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 19:00, 13 September 2024 review of submission by 198.52.165.99 ==

{{Lafc|username=198.52.165.99|ts=19:00, 13 September 2024|draft=Article Declined}}

I resubmitted an article with the changes requested and was rejected again. Would you please tell me if I could speak with the editor(McMatter Talk) regarding the specific changes they require?

== 21:24, 27 August 2025 review of submission by 76.9.53.56 ==

Thank you

{{Lafc|username=76.9.53.56|ts=21:24, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Robert_G._Hopkins}}

Why was this declined? There are many independent reliable arms length new sources including CBC Canada's National Broadcaster as well Yukon News both detailing RGH work in open source emergency alerting published history on these sources going back over 20 years. Additionally, RGH appears on public CRTC decisions for radio licencing. RGH doesn't work for CBC or Yukon News [[Special:Contributions/76.9.53.56|76.9.53.56]] ([[User talk:76.9.53.56|talk]]) 21:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Viromi:The ancestry section is completely unsourced. [[SpecialUser:Contributions/198.52.165.99331dot|198.52.165.99331dot]] ([[User talk:198.52.165.99331dot|talk]]) 1921:0046, 1327 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

= August 28 =

:You put the words "article declined" where the name of your draft is intended to go. Which draft is it? You can communicate with that reviewer by going to their user talk page, you can click the word "talk" next to their name in the decline message on the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

== 1903:1312, 1328 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Qmwne235IanResearch ==

{{Lafc|username=Qmwne235IanResearch|ts=1903:1312, 1328 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:I Hate SexZigZagZurich}}

Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Since the notice that this draft was declined was accompanied only by a standard template, I was wondering if I could have a more detailed review of the sources. On which of the criteria for notability is the article currently falling short? I'd appreciate any advice! ''<span style="color:#0000f1">[[User:Qmwne235|Qmwne]]</span><span style="color:#0f0">_{[[User talk:Qmwne235|2]][[Special:Contributions/Qmwne235|3]][[User:Qmwne235|5]]}</span>'' 19:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].

:You can ask the reviewer who declined it to explain, on their talk page. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

::TheyThe wouldawards needare meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to passcontribute theto criterianotability, atit must itself merit an article(like [[WP:NBANDNobel Peace Prize]] toor be[[Academy acceptedAward]]). [[User:Theroadislong331dot|Theroadislong331dot]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong331dot|talk]]) 2006:3859, 1328 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

:::{{tpq|They have been credited as one of the most influential bands in Canada's screamo scene}} is an exceedingly thin and unpersuasive claim of notability. When musical genres are sliced and diced into ever thinner and more obscure sub-sub-sub genres, notability becomes very difficult to establish. Did they have any hit records? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

::::{{u|Qmwne235}}, your assertion {{tpq|gained acclaimed (sic) as an important hardcore release}} is cited to an article that discusses dozens of bands and devotes just two sentences to this band, namely {{tpq|Edmonton’s I Hate Sex called it quits this summer but left a mark on the Canadian scene. They went through a number of lineup changes but always featured vocalist Nicole Boychuk, whose impassioned, at times desperate sounding, delivery anchored their sound.}} If you think these two sentences amount to "gained acclaim", then maybe encyclopedia writing is not for you, because hyperbole is not permitted on Wikipedia. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

== 05:28, 28 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang ==

= September 14 =

{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang|ts=05:28, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Winmate Inc.}}

The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.

== 06:30, 14 September 2024 review of submission by Dbgbr ==

:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Dbgbr|ts=06:30, 14 September 2024|draft=Mukesh Mishra}}

I submitted article to publish with all relevant evidence available on Google search but still it's say not sufficient evidence, kindly help me out.... [[User:Dbgbr|Dbgbr]] ([[User talk:Dbgbr|talk]]) 06:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Dbgbr}}, your draft has been rejected and speedy deleted. This is the end of the line. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

== 0806:5740, 1428 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Royiswariii109.252.122.222 ==

{{Lafc|username=Royiswariii109.252.122.222|ts=0806:5740, 1428 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Sining (song)Maxim_Lazarev}}

Good day!

Hi, I would like to request a review of my draft article [[Draft:Sining (song)]]. It has been two weeks without any review, decline, or acceptance. I would appreciate a review so I can make any necessary changes if there’s something wrong, or if it’s accepted, it would give me peace of mind. Thanks! [[User:Royiswariii|Royiswariii]] ([[User talk:Royiswariii|talk]]) 08:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your work!

:{{u|Royiswariii}} I fixed your header to put a link to your draft in the correct ___location(you had the words "draft article" there). As noted on your draft, "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 1,516 pending submissions waiting for review." You will be informed when the review is conducted, and if the draft was accepted or not. If it was not accepted, the reviewer will leave you feedback. Please be patient. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.

This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.

Help improve this page.

Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.

With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 17:14, 14 September 2024 review of submission by Abhi2002pathak ==

{{Lafc|username=Abhi2002pathak|ts=17:14, 14 September 2024|draft=Draft:Neeru Yadav}}

I am trying to create a neutral page for this politician, actually here is the reason why she needs a Wikipedia page. There is one lady criminal Neera Yadav and people who want to search Neeru get confused by Neera's name, creating a problem. I just want people not to rush down to the decision that this is biased article. I have not relation with her I just want to remove this confusion. [[User:Abhi2002pathak|Abhi2002pathak]] ([[User talk:Abhi2002pathak|talk]]) 17:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==

:Abhi2002pathak. Your statement that she "needs a Wikipedia page" is based on a (very common) misconception. A Wikipedia article '''about''' a subject is not in any way at all for the benefit (or detriment) of that subject. If Yadav meets Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]] (perhaps the more specific [[WP:NPOL|notability for politicians]]) then there can be an article about her: if she does not, then there cannot be an article about her.

{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}

:The existence of somebody else with a similar name is of no relevance at all to deciding whether or not an article can be accepted. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:Having looked at [[Draft:Neeru Yadav]], I think she may well be notable. But I notice that some sections of the draft are unreferenced: specifically, "Early Life", and most of "Achievements and recognition" - note that Wikipedia does not normally take notice of awards unless either 1) the award itself is sufficiently notable that there is a Wikipedia article about it, or 2) the subject winning the award has been written about at some length by an independent commentator.

:I have [[WP:wikilinked|wikilinked]] the word "sarpanch", as people outside India are not likely to be familiar with it.

:I have also restored all the [[WP:AFC]] messages and comments, which you should not have removed. That will allow you to resubmit the draft when it is ready. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you very much I am collecting more reliable sources to justify this page. I will resubmit when I am ready to review. [[Special:Contributions/2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2|2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2]] ([[User talk:2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2|talk]]) 09:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Abhi2002pathak|Abhi2002pathak]]: just out of curiosity, how do you know this person has a problem with people confusing her with her namesake?

:Also, could you please stop tampering with the AfC (and other) templates in this draft, they're there for a reason. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::I am now not going to do Anything with templates people have added. Btw I got to know about her as I was surfing on Wikipedia and got on Wikipedia page of hockey. Then by curiosity I find about people and news about hockey in my state. I would appreciate required for this page. [[Special:Contributions/2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2|2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2]] ([[User talk:2405:201:6807:C8B6:EDB9:F98B:8473:73B2|talk]]) 09:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::That didn't answer my question. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:48, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::Remember to log in when posting. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 22:07, 14 September 2024 review of submission by Finlay73 ==

:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Finlay73|ts=22:07, 14 September 2024|draft=Draft:Tomio_Otani}}

:Comments on your assessment table:

Hello i have submitted an article on kendo master Tomio Otani. I wanted to see if it could be reviewed and accepted and whether there are any suggestions for improvement, thanks! [[User:Finlay73|Finlay73]] ([[User talk:Finlay73|talk]]) 22:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.

:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...

:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?

:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>

:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>

== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==

:You have submitted it for review, as indicated on your draft, this could take time. If not accepted, the reviewer will leave feedback. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}

Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

= September 15 =

== 0814:4357, 1528 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Sarim WaniAras2025 ==

{{Lafc|username=Sarim WaniAras2025|ts=0814:4357, 1528 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Jammu and Kashmir Awami Ittehad PartyRadio_Duhok}}

Hello,

can you please accept it now? [[User:Sarim Wani|Sarim Wani]] ([[User talk:Sarim Wani|talk]]) 08:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:You have resubmitted it for a review. As noted on the draft, this could take some time, please be patient. There is no way to speed up this process, which is conducted by volunteers. Do you have a particular need for a speedy review? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 10:37, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Kaspatik ==

{{Lafc|username=Kaspatik|ts=10:37, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sumotori_dreams}}

Mostly to do with citations relating to some bits of the sumotori article, unless I'm not using the right keywords to fetch articles or what, but it's really a struggle from what I could fetch from. [[User:Kaspatik|Kaspatik]] ([[User talk:Kaspatik|talk]]) 10:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:I suggest you read [[WP:42]] carefully, and evaluate each of you sources against the criteria there. I suspect that most of your sources are of limited value (and do not contribute towards establishing [[WP:notability|notability]]) and some of them are worthless for Wikipedia.

:Note that a citation that just shows that something exists is nearly worthless: if this is significant, then there will be indpendendent sources about it, and if there aren't, why is it significant enough to be mentioned in a Wikipedia article? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::Yeah I figured it was gonna be like this. Atleast with ways I was going about the article (and the citations), mostly for the niche subject around Sumotori dreams. But alas though It's roadblock that I hit little after doing research and the alike into it and stuff like that on wikipedia is the least concerning subject to cover. [[User:Kaspatik|Kaspatik]] ([[User talk:Kaspatik|talk]]) 12:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 11:03, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Nalabala1323 ==

{{Lafc|username=Nalabala1323|ts=11:03, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Nalabala1323}}

To help formatting the page and citing sufficient content and information. They are filming here in Louisville, Kentucky and our little town in Frankfort,

Kentucky and I’ve been doing research on the film Carolina Caroline and spoke to some crew and one of the producers which was why based on information I’ve gathered Mr. Ward should have a page. His wife Brittany Ward is also a producer on the film and she produces and manages Elle and Dakota Fanning as well as Liz Hannah who wrote the Movie The Post directed by Steven Speilberg starring Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep. Ms. Ward and Mr. Ward also producer many other projects for Hulu, Amazon and Netflix. They have worked together on many projects. The Girl from Plainville and THE Great which had three season on Hulu starring Elle Fanning and Nick Hoult. I have drafted a new page but would love help on this project and page. Much appreciated! [[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]] ([[User talk:Nalabala1323|talk]]) 11:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]]: we don't get involved in co-editing here at the help desk. If you have specific questions, you may ask those, of course.

:In any case, this draft has been rejected, and will therefore not be considered further.

:Also, just so you know for future reference, your own interviews and other research, while no doubt interesting to conduct, isn't useful on Wikipedia, as that comes under [[WP:original research|original research]] which is not allowed. We are only interested in what reliable published sources have said about a subject.

:Best, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::Okay, but the sites and references do show past films, current films and the films worked on which to my findings have grossed hundreds of millions of Dollars at box office and projects the gentleman has worked with A list actors and directors and it links to his current film production filming here in Kentucky Carolina Caroline and he is on that page so why would it not be of interest to put context behind his credits and colleagues? [[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]] ([[User talk:Nalabala1323|talk]]) 11:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::But that doesn't change the fact that those things are original research. There are places to publish that, Wikipedia isn't one of them, sorry. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Nalabala1323}} What you're basically trying to argue is that [[WP:WAX|the film is notable due to its personnel's notability]]. We do not accept that argument (and we never have); the film needs to be [[WP:NFILM|notable on its]] [[WP:Notability|own merits]] regardless of the notability of the names attached to it. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 18:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 11:37, 15 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34 ==

{{Lafc|username=2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34|ts=11:37, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Carrie Jenkinson}}

Hi there,

I am a British milliner and I recently paid someone to build a page for me which they were clearly unable to do successfully.

I am not able to access it to make changes that would make it more suitable for you.

Can you offer and assistance? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34|2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:8AEE:DF00:60F4:E261:6D57:5B34|talk]]) 11:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:I fixed your link for proper display. There is nothing preventing you from editing the draft, but doing so would be academic, as it has been rejected and will not be considered further at this time. The issues from the first attempt at a draft were not resolved. In terms of you editing the draft, please see the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]].

:It appears that you may have been scammed, see [[WP:SCAM]]. If you're certain the editor is legitimately trying to write an acceptable draft, they failed to comply with our policies, including making the [[WP:PAID|Terms of Use required paid editing disclosure]]. I might try to get my money back if I were you, but it may not happen. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:56, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you for confirming what seemed pretty obvious all along, namely that the two editors involved (which I actually rather suspect to be one editor using two accounts) were, and are, undisclosed paid editors. This was queried several times, but no response was ever provided.

:I hope you can get your money back, although I expect you probably won't, regrettably. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::No payment for this, just star struck they have been filming in our small towns in Kentucky and they shot scenes at two of our stores so I’ve got an inside look how movies are made and it’s fascinating. I’m not professional and wouldn’t except anything for doing something I’m passionate about and trying to learn in my off time. [[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]] ([[User talk:Nalabala1323|talk]]) 12:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]]: you probably meant to reply in your own thread (the one above this one)? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:20, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::::Apologies, thanks for clarifying!! If you can help in the future I would like to continue and grow within wiki and the community’s I’m passionate about. Thanks again! [[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]] ([[User talk:Nalabala1323|talk]]) 12:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 12:35, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Nalabala1323 ==

{{Lafc|username=Nalabala1323|ts=12:35, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Chris_Ward_(film_producer)}}

I don’t fully understand as I’m new to this and have spent numerous hours researching the gentleman and the company that is filming in our small town and Kentucky. I found numerous publications about the producer as well as the film and their colleagues and other producers when I checked the Carolina Carolina Film page on wiki they named as well as Mr. Ward and he has substantial credits as colleagues Tim and Trevor White from what I see so any help would be appreciated to be able to site the correct references doing a thorough research. He’s been involved in over 40 movies with a list, actors and directors, I don’t know why that wouldn’t be acceptable as there are some film Producers I’ve looked up that have pages and don’t have nearly as much success or years of experience. Is it that I’m not coding or writing correctly? [[User:Nalabala1323|Nalabala1323]] ([[User talk:Nalabala1323|talk]]) 12:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:It's not enough to just document the existence of his work. You must gather and summarize independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that give him significant coverage- coverage which goes into detail about his importance/significance/influence to filmmaking(if you are asserting he is a [[WP:PRODUCER|notable creative professional]]) or just meets the broader [[WP:BIO|notable person definition]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 13:50, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Dooggyzon32 ==

{{Lafc|username=Dooggyzon32|ts=13:50, 15 September 2024|draft=Alitta Cat}}

Adding a new articles and information [[User:Dooggyzon32|Dooggyzon32]] ([[User talk:Dooggyzon32|talk]]) 13:50, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Dooggyzon32|Dooggyzon32]]: that's not a question; did you have one in mind?

:That said, {{courtesy link|Draft:Alitta Cat}} does not look likely to turn into a viable encyclopaedia article. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{comment}} The user requesting help has been [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Dooggyzon32 globally locked] for long term abuse. [[User:Cyberdog958|<span style="color:navy;">''cyberdog''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''958'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:Cyberdog958|<span style="color:teal;">Talk</span>]]} 08:40, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

== 16:52, 15 September 2024 review of submission by BellaNYork ==

{{Lafc|username=BellaNYork|ts=16:52, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Kumara}}

Seek guidance from colleagues in here:

As per WP:OUTCOMES district magistrates are notable as such holding the career perspective.

( Political figures not elected to public office

Sub-cabinet officials (assistant secretary, commissioner, etc.) are usually considered notable, especially if they have had otherwise notable careers. )

[[User:BellaNYork|BellaNYork]] ([[User talk:BellaNYork|talk]]) 16:52, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:BellaNYork|BellaNYork]]: in a word, no. Civil servants are not inherently notable, and neither is sub-state anyone, whether in a political or administrative role. In any case, such notabilities would only be ''presumed'', not absolute, so the onus is on you to demonstrate that the subject ''is'' notable, rather than for the reviewer to demonstrate the opposite. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 18:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you. Your guidance is helpful to understand better. Much appreciated. [[User:BellaNYork|BellaNYork]] ([[User talk:BellaNYork|talk]]) 04:03, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|BellaNYork}} Let's test that assertion. Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):

:* https://mandya.nic.in/en/whoswho/deputy-commissioner/ is useless for notability ([[WP:PRIMARY|gov't document]]).

:* https://daijiworld.com/news/newsDisplay?newsID=801286 is useless for notability, borderline unusable ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). All it says about him is that he's replacing an outgoing exec; there's otherwise no discussion of him and the article itself is almost too short to cite.

:* https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mandya-dc-warns-sugar-factories-against-breaching-their-crushing-territory/article68580929.ece is useless for notability ([[WP:RSCONTEXT|wrong subject]]). This is more about sugar factories in his jurisdiction and doesn't actually discuss Kumara in any real detail.

:* https://starofmysore.com/sewage-water-flow-from-mysuru-to-mandya-mandya-dc-writes-to-mysuru-dc-mcc-commissioner-to-put-an-end-to-the-flow/ is useless for notability ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]], [[WP:RSCONTEXT|wrong subject]]). This is about a clean-water crisis and doesn't discuss Kumara; all it does is parrot him.

:* https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/put-loan-recovery-on-hold-for-2-3-months-as-mandya-has-been-declared-drought-affected-says-deputy-commissioner/article68174821.ece is useless for notability ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]], [[WP:RSCONTEXT|wrong subject]]). Again, this is about a crisis and doesn't actually discuss Kumara; all it does is reiterate/attribute his positions on the matter.

:* https://thesouthfirst.com/karnataka/ias-officer-opened-book-nests-with-own-money-at-bus-stops-in-highly-literate-dakshina-kannada/ is useless for notability ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). This is (for all intents and purpose) a prose interview of the subject.

:* https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/14-child-marriages-reported-in-mandya-district/article68406671.ece is useless for notability ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). This article is entirely attributed claims/positions in relation to a crisis and does not discuss him.

:None of your sources help for notability. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 18:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:And to add to the above, [[WP:OUTCOMES]] is not a policy nor a guideline, but an essay. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 18:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

== 22:33, 15 September 2024 review of submission by Jacob David Dove Pottage ==

{{Lafc|username=Jacob David Dove Pottage|ts=22:33, 15 September 2024|draft=Draft:Richard Ackerman (Redeemed Zoomer)}}

I want clarification on the standards for sources, I want to write an article about a living popular YouTuber, most of what is known about him is based off of what he has said about himself, do his own videos where he talks about his life count as reliable sources? [[User:Jacob David Dove Pottage|Jacob David Dove Pottage]] ([[User talk:Jacob David Dove Pottage|talk]]) 22:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Jacob David Dove Pottage}} I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. No, we are not interested in what someone says about themselves, only in what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] choose on their own to say about persons that [[WP:BIO|meet our definition of a notable person]]. If the only sources are someone speaking about themselves, they do not merit a Wikipedia article. We are looking for things like news reports, professional reviews, books, etc. YouTube videos(even if independent) are not acceptable sources unless they are from reputable news outlets on their verified channel. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

:I was confused, I though the draft existed already. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

= September 16 =

== 00:51, 16 September 2024 review of submission by SCAFP213 ==

{{Lafc|username=SCAFP213|ts=00:51, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:Goodfellow_Bros.}}

The person who edited this Goodfellow Bros. entry said that there were citing errors. But the citing looks correct. Instead of using "foo," I used multiple 1, etc. because there was not just one multiple. I couldn't call every multiple citing "foo." Please explain why this is incorrect. Also, the article is worthy of a wikipedia entry. It is a 100-year old company that was instrumental in the development of the region. It is every bit as worthy as an entry like that of a similar company Kiewit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiewit_Corporation. The references are in-depth, reliable, secondary and strictly independent of the subject. I think it's irresponsible and arbitrary to reject this entry. [[User:SCAFP213|SCAFP213]] ([[User talk:SCAFP213|talk]]) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:If you scroll to the bottom of the draft, you'll see the text {{tq|Cite error: The named reference "multiple 1" was defined multiple times with different content (see the [[Help:Cite errors/Cite error references duplicate key|help page]]).}} Click on the link to the help page{{snd}}it explains what's wrong and how to fix it. [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|talk]]) 04:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

== 02:19, 16 September 2024 review of submission by Rafael Daiki Ando ==

{{Lafc|username=Rafael Daiki Ando|ts=02:19, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:International_Economics_Olympiad}}

Good night! I rewrote the International Economics Olympiad article and would like to know if it is good now. If not, could you provide more information about what is expected from the article?

Thank you! [[User:Rafael Daiki Ando|Rafael Daiki Ando]] ([[User talk:Rafael Daiki Ando|talk]]) 02:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:The draft was rejected by @[[User:Star Mississippi|Star Mississippi]] in January, with the comment {{tq|Despite multiple attempts over the years, it does not appear there has ever been sufficient coverage to establish notability}}. "Rejected" means that it cannot be resubmitted.

:If you believe that there is relevant coverage (that meets all the criteria in [[WP:42]]) that was either not found in January or has been published since, you need to ask Star Mississippi to reconsider it. But please do not do so unless you are sure that the sources are now adequate for Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

::thanks @[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]]. My opinion remains the same but if another reviewer sees things differently,happy to revisit. [[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#be33ff;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#ff33da;">Mississippi</span>]] 02:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== 04:34, 16 September 2024 review of submission by High Admiral JMT ==

{{Lafc|username=High Admiral JMT|ts=04:34, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:List of storms named Pulasan}}

I see that almost every named storm had a list. Pulasan is a new name and one storm just formed with this name. The material is similar to all other lists. Why then is it rejected? [[User:High Admiral JMT|High Admiral JMT]] ([[User talk:High Admiral JMT|talk]]) 04:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:High Admiral JMT|High Admiral JMT]]: this draft was declined (not 'rejected') because the subject is not notable. It's also not much of a list, if you only have a single item, which begs the question why create a list article on a non-list, especially when that single item already has an article of its own. (And no, "almost every named storm ha[ving] a list" is not a valid reason.) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

== 04:49, 16 September 2024 review of submission by Linaa06 ==

{{Lafc|username=Linaa06|ts=04:49, 16 September 2024|draft=Asking about reliable source for citation and reference}}

Hi, I'm struggling with how to find reliable source for my company introduction page in Wikipedia platform. Our company is quite new, so the only thing we get is the document, links from our company sites, PR articles and some social post with others parners.

May I ask about what we can consider as a reliable source for a new business like my company?

Thank you so much [[User:Linaa06|Linaa06]] ([[User talk:Linaa06|talk]]) 04:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Linaa06|Linaa06]]: I don't know what company, or what draft, you're talking about, but by the sound of things it's unlikely to be [[WP:notable|notable]] enough for inclusion in Wikipedia.

:Also, just to say that there are no "company introduction pages" here. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a business directory. We publish encyclopaedic articles on subjects which are notable. If you wish to tell the world about your business, you need to find a different platform such as LinkedIn etc. Note also that promotion of any kind is not allowed. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:Most companies (like most people, most bands, most charities, most schools, most streets, etc) have not been written about sufficiently to meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]], and so cannot currently have articles about them in Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

::{{courtesy link|Draft:Atok}}. --[[User:Slgrandson|Slgrandson]] <small>([[User talk:Slgrandson|How's my]] [[Special:Contributions/Slgrandson|egg-throwing coleslaw?]])</small> 13:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== 05:59, 16 September 2024 review of submission by Pat Moller ==

{{Lafc|username=Pat Moller|ts=05:59, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:ResourceCO}}

I want to request to rename this page from 'ResourceCO' to 'ResourceCo' to correct the capitalisation of the company name. [[User:Pat Moller|Pat Moller]] ([[User talk:Pat Moller|talk]]) 05:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Pat Moller|Pat Moller]]: done. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:04, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Pat Moller}} Though given the draft is highly promotional, you're basically just putting a new coat of paint on a condemned house. What is your connexion with ResourceCo? —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 06:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.

== 08:34, 16 September 2024 review of submission by VvS77qq ==

{{Lafc|username=VvS77qq|ts=08:34, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:Bokela}}

I removed the trivia section as suggested. Unfortunately I have problems with the commented "several unsourced statements". I tried to give references to all claims/statements. If I hadn't any, I did not publish the corresponding parts. So, I really tried to be as precise as possible - not giving at least an example of "several unsourced statements" does not help me in improving the article and seems just like a "copy-paste-argument". Any help or hint on this is highly appreciated! [[User:VvS77qq|VvS77qq]] ([[User talk:VvS77qq|talk]]) 08:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:

:@[[User:VvS77qq|VvS77qq]]: I count at least a dozen paragraphs, in other words the ''majority of the draft contents'', without any referencing. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.

2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."

Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.

== 08:36, 16 September 2024 review of submission by High Admiral JMT ==

{{Lafc|username=High Admiral JMT|ts=08:36, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:List_of_storms_named_Pulasan}}

I think we still need this page, as currently I see that it is almost inevitable that more storms named Pulasan will develop, in 2030 and possibly in 2036, 2042, etc. I think we need this page for the present, as it will develop. [[User:High Admiral JMT|High Admiral JMT]] ([[User talk:High Admiral JMT|talk]]) 08:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:When new storms are given that name, ''and there is material published about storms called Pulasan'' (not just about individual storms) then it is possible that there can be a Wikipedia list. We do not published articles because they may be useful in the future. See [[WP:TOOSOON]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 10:55, 16 September 2024 review of submission by Timashaedirisinghe ==

:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Timashaedirisinghe|ts=10:55, 16 September 2024|draft=Draft:Amanda Edirisinghe}}

Dear sir, kindly note that i have been experiencing difficulties when editing my wiki page kindly help me.i have been publishing my new edits but it doesnt appear on google as newly edited information sir.i think i have been mistakenly editing wikipedia page incorrectly thats why .kindly help me sir [[User:Timashaedirisinghe|Timashaedirisinghe]] ([[User talk:Timashaedirisinghe|talk]]) 10:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==

:@[[User:Timashaedirisinghe|Timashaedirisinghe]]: your draft has not been published yet, it was declined by the reviewer. Search engines cannot see unpublished drafts, that's why it won't appear on Google.

{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=16:50, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay_Taneja}}

:What is your relationship to the subject of your draft? I've posted a message on your talk page about conflicts of interest, please read and respond to it. Thank you. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

may i know the reason why the article has been stoped

::Dear sir, Im unrelated to the subject she is a television presenter in srilanka and she is a celebrity as she has won the 4th runner up title at Miss rilanka universe 2007 pageant and works as an actress and a Televion presenter. and represented srilanka in india as an actress.the purpose of this article is to give her respect as an achiever who has achieved so many things since her young age which she still does . [[User:Timashaedirisinghe|Timashaedirisinghe]] ([[User talk:Timashaedirisinghe|talk]]) 06:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Timashaedirisinghe|Timashaedirisinghe]]: so the fact that her name and your user name both have 'Edirisinghe' in them is just a coincidence? Also, you've included a lot of personal details in your draft which don't seem to come from any of the sources listed, so where did you get all that information from? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== 1417:2710, 1628 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by ViljowfSaysky2 ==

{{Lafc|username=ViljowfSaysky2|ts=1417:2710, 1628 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:South_African_Music_EncyclopediaAjay Taneja}}

May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

In my view, the author has addressed the previous comments adequately. There are numerous sources citing reviews of an important scholarly work on South African music history. An entire thesis chapter is dedicated to the subject.If an entry on the Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_of_Australian_Rock_and_Pop#:~:text=The%20Encyclopedia%20of%20Australian%20Rock,but%20is%20not%20otherwise%20relates qualifies, surely this one does too. [[User:Viljowf|Viljowf]] ([[User talk:Viljowf|talk]]) 14:27, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:FWIW, I agree, and pretty much said so when this was [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2024_August_22#09:58,_22_August_2024_review_of_submission_by_Slgrandson|raised here last month]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:The range of coverage from ''[[South African Journal of Musicology]]'', ''[[The Musical Times]]'', and ''[[African Affairs]]'', all notable publications in their own right, seem more than adequate for a reference work like this. I would resubmit it myself if it wasn't rejected. [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#6BAD2D">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#2F3833">rabbit</span>]] 19:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).

:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 1418:3310, 1628 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by 2001:56A:70F6:CF00:A9F0:F7FD:4B62:731080.41.119.0 ==

{{Lafc|username=2001:56A:70F6:CF00:A9F0:F7FD:4B62:731080.41.119.0|ts=1418:3310, 1628 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Orysia_BoychukFusion_candle}}

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== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==

= September 17 =

{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}

Hello team,

I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.

== 01:56, 17 September 2024 review of submission by San1976Marino ==

:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.

{{Lafc|username=San1976Marino|ts=01:56, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Norman_Mathews}}

:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] &#8226; [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

My draft: Norman Mathews article continues to be rejected because, "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." I don't understand this because the sources I used include the NY Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Chicago Reader, Playbill, and various other major sources. Why are these insufficient? Also, there is the claim that some of the sources are unreliable. Could someone please point specifically to one or two unreliable sources I've quoted in the draft so that I may understand the problem better and eliminate them? I've read the articles on citing sources but can learn nothing as to why the sources I have used are inadequate. Please Help. Thanks. [[User:San1976Marino|San1976Marino]] ([[User talk:San1976Marino|talk]]) 01:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==

:@[[User:San1976Marino|San1976Marino]]: nobody is saying that ''all'' your sources are unreliable, only that ''some'' are. User-generated content in particular is not considered reliable, because it isn't subject to editorial oversight; to put it bluntly, anyone can publish any old rubbish they want. In the case of this draft, that means Bookbaby, YouTube and SoundCloud.

{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}

:The bigger problem is that too much of the content is unsupported by ''any'' sources. From what source did you get the [[WP:DOB|DOB]]? Where does the info in the 'Early life and education' section come from, or in 'Musician'? Articles on living people ([[WP:BLP]]) have particularly strict referencing requirements, and pretty much every statement needs to be clearly backed up by a reliable source. HTH, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== Article development ==

::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

= August 29 =

am a kenyan artist kindly how can i develop an article for me? [[User:Prince Ackley|Prince Ackley]] ([[User talk:Prince Ackley|talk]]) 08:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==

:Put bluntly: you don't.

{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}

:[[WP:AUTO|Writing a Wikipedia article about yourself]] is '''very strongly discouraged''', because it is almost impossible for most people to write about themselves in a sufficiently neutral way.

I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.

:Note that, if there is ever an article about you, whoever writes it:

:* it will not belong to you

:* it will not necessarily say what you want it to say

:* it should be based almost entirely on what people unconnected with you have published ''about'' you, not on what you or your associates say or want to say.

:* it will be able to be edited by almost anybody in the world ''except'' you and your associates. (You would be able to request edits, but an uninvolved editor would decide how to respond to your request).

:In short, Wikipedia may not be used for [[WP:NOTPROMO|promotion]] (ie "telling the world about yourself").

:I suggest you put your time and effort to other things. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:I would add that Wikipedia has no interest in aiding your fans, or in enhancing search results for you, or your Google knowledge panel(for which the presence of a Wikipedia article is only one possible input). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::So its impossible... [[User:Prince Ackley|Prince Ackley]] ([[User talk:Prince Ackley|talk]]) 10:15, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:::Not impossible if you meet Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:NARTIST|notability]] (most artists don't), but very difficult, and you may not be happy with the result. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 10:37, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Fsekoech ==

{{Lafc|username=Fsekoech|ts=10:37, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sultan_al-Malki}}

Hi, I have made changes to the article over 6 times. The reviewers point out one issue at a time, kindly address all the issues at once, or tell me exactly where the issue is so that I can fix it. As the article stands, it is perfect for me. Make the changes or be specific with the error.

Kind regards. [[User:Fsekoech|Fsekoech]] ([[User talk:Fsekoech|talk]]) 10:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]} 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:I'm afraid that you are having an experience that is very common for editors who attempt the extremely difficult task of creating an article before they have spent significant time learning how Wikipedia works.

:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:If you took up a new sport, and immediately entered a tournament, you would not expect to do well in it; but (assuming experts bothered to give you feedback on your performance) you would probably not understand what they were saying, because you had not spent time learning how the sport worked.

:ThisHello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is muchnot about what the same.subject {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:4211, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Fsekoech|Fsekoech]]: due to technical limitations, a draft can only be declined for at most two reasons. If it has several declinable issues, then it is possible for each reviewer to decline it for different reasons. Reviewers don't have to decline for any particular reason, such as for some sort of 'major' or 'primary' reason, or for the same reason as in the previous decline; they can decline for any reason that is valid. Also, declining for a different reason than in the previous decline does not necessarily mean that that reason no longer applies.

:Case in point, earlier I declined this for lack of evidence of notability and insufficient referencing, and I can tell you that both of those problems still persist, even though other reviewers have subsequently declined this for different reasons.

:On a different matter, can you confirm that you have read and understood [[WP:AUTOBIO]], which explains why you shouldn't be writing about yourself at all? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:15, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::I am not writing about myself, however, I was working on a friend's article in order to acquire the technical-know-how as I would like to write about computer science. I have made necessary changes to the references, you can check it out, kindly [[User:Fsekoech|Fsekoech]] ([[User talk:Fsekoech|talk]]) 19:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:::You took an image of him and he posed for you, what is your connection to him? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==

== 11:48, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Top famous 2019 ==

{{Lafc|username=Top famous 2019|ts=11:48, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Ahsan_Ali_Dinpur}}

"Ahsan Ali is held to be one of a vanguard of proficient visual designers who have adopted and promoted the use of standards-based, cross-browser solutions to web design problems."

hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

(i) "Held to be" by whom?

(ii) There are millions of proficient web designers. If anyone is in the 'vanguard' it is those with the foresight to design the next level of standards... certainly not the millions who simply follow them, as happens in most industries. [[User:Top famous 2019|Top famous 2019]] ([[User talk:Top famous 2019|talk]]) 11:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.

:@[[User:Top famous 2019|Top famous 2019]]: not sure what's happening... you seem to be posing a question, and then answering it yourself. Did you have a question for us? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:17, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Top famous 2019 ==

{{Lafc|username=Top famous 2019|ts=13:17, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Ahsan_Ali_Dinpur}}

Sorry Now Edits [[User:Top famous 2019|Top famous 2019]] ([[User talk:Top famous 2019|talk]]) 13:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== 1311:2932, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by ZubaMusicNewacctowork ==

{{Lafc|username=ZubaMusicNewacctowork|ts=1311:2932, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:ZubaTrinity_Private_School}}

I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.

I don't see why its wrong, and bad, when I removed the things that had to be removed. [[User:ZubaMusic|ZubaMusic]] ([[User talk:ZubaMusic|talk]]) 13:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.

Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.

I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].

:I'm sorry, but this whole draft was a mess. No plausible claim to notability was made, there's not a single citation to a single fact asserted, and it appears this is an autobiography or at least a significant [[WP:COI]]. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 13:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.

:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.

:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.

:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 1312:5400, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Drzarqa3GeorgeHav ==

{{Lafc|username=Drzarqa3GeorgeHav|ts=1312:5400, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Drzarqa3/sandboxFlightSimExpo}}

Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I recently received this notification from wikipedia, The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Can you please help me use footnotes for wikipedia page.

::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::I would talk much less about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about it. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==

Thank you, [[User:Drzarqa3|Drzarqa3]] ([[User talk:Drzarqa3|talk]]) 13:54, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}

Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}

:@[[User:Drzarqa3|Drzarqa3]] Please read [[WP:REFB]] and [[WP:CITE]]. These will help you to place your footnotes correctly 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>^{<small>Timtrent</small>}]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>^{<small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small>}]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 14:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.

:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 1417:3225, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by JLzero02FurretSuperFan ==

{{Lafc|username=JLzero02FurretSuperFan|ts=1417:3225, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Moriyama_Teshima_ArchitectsGreatest_Idol}}

Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources

The Moriyama Teshima Architects article I had drafted for creation has been in review since March 6th (+/- 6 months). I suspect the delay has to do with the submission having been declined, though all of the comments made by editors were applied promptly. Is there any way I can improve my odds of having it reviewed and approved within a reasonable timeframe? Thank you! [[User:JLzero02|JLzero02]] ([[User talk:JLzero02|talk]]) 14:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/

:There is nothing you can do to speed the review process; drafts are reviewed in no particular order by volunteers. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:JLzero02|JLzero02]]: just for the record, we count waiting times from the most recent submission, which in this case was c. 3 ½ months ago. Still quite a long time, but not as bad as 6 months.

:A draft with 50+ citations will tend to put off reviewers. Personally, I would take out the entire 'Major Projects' section and the corresponding sources, or at least cut it down dramatically to the most notable ones only.

:Either in addition to or instead of that, you could highlight the 3-5 sources that you feel are strongest in terms of establishing notability according to the [[WP:NCORP]] guideline. This would mean that the reviewer wouldn't have to sift through all 52 to find the few that really matter.

:While this wouldn't necessarily expedite the review ''per se'', it might at least encourage a reviewer who comes across this draft to review it rather than to groan and move swiftly on... -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you so much for the suggestion, will do just this! [[User:JLzero02|JLzero02]] ([[User talk:JLzero02|talk]]) 20:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 15:04, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Əhməd Qurbanov ==

{{Lafc|username=Əhməd Qurbanov|ts=15:04, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:InMerge_Innovation_Summit}}

Greetings, I've already corrected some mistakes in the article. I added independent sources and removed social media references. Please, review the [[Draft:InMerge_Innovation_Summit|article]] and give the feedbacks. It would be very helpful. [[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] ([[User talk:Əhməd Qurbanov|talk]]) 15:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.

:@[[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]]: if you feel you have addressed the issues highlighted in the previous review, you may resubmit the draft and that way you will get more feedback in due course. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] Please both submit this for review and continue to make improvements. There is a waiting period of anything up to three months for a review right now. Submission does not stop you from working on it 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>^{<small>Timtrent</small>}]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>^{<small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small>}]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 15:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::Would this link work for Oricon instead?

::Dear, [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] and [[User:Timtrent|Timtrent]], I want to be sure that everything is OK before submission. I don't want to get another decline to article. [[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] ([[User talk:Əhməd Qurbanov|talk]]) 15:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] Reviews on request are not something we entertain, I'm afraid. 🇺🇦&nbsp;[[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>^{<small>Timtrent</small>}]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>^{<small>Talk&nbsp;to&nbsp;me</small>}]]&nbsp;🇺🇦 15:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?

:::: So, what do we need to improve the article? [[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] ([[User talk:Əhməd Qurbanov|talk]]) 15:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::Who is "we"? Are you associated with this event?

:::::The decline message states what is being looked for. Do you have specific questions about it?Count* [[User:331dotFurretSuperFan|331dotFurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:331dotFurretSuperFan|talk]]) 1520:3619, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.

:::::I am sorry, because of misunderstanding for translation, I mentioned "we". I am not associated with the event. Yes, I need feedbacks about decline message. [[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] ([[User talk:Əhməd Qurbanov|talk]]) 15:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::I would kindly say that if English is not your first language, you may want to edit the Wikipedia of your primary language.

::::::You have just told what the event is, and what happens there, you have not summarized what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the event, showing how it is [[WP:EVENT|a notable event as Wikipedia defines it]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::Please note that {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::: Dear, [[User:331dot|331dot]] and [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]], I inserted a lot of independent media sources which is talking about the summit. Please, consider that. [[User:Əhməd Qurbanov|Əhməd Qurbanov]] ([[User talk:Əhməd Qurbanov|talk]]) 19:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::::::::Sources published in advance of an event are almost always regurgitations of press releases, and so are not independent. It is unusual for a journalist to have anything much substantial and independent to say about an event before it has happened. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== 1518:2402, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Matt.ruhstallerJetsonesque ==

{{Lafc|username=Matt.ruhstallerJetsonesque|ts=1518:2402, 1729 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:John_Shearer_(Music_and_Entertainment_Photographer)Sam_Bregman}}

Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?

Can you please give me a few tips to understand what requirements I am not meeting? Do I need better citations? Many thanks! [[User:Matt.ruhstaller|M]] ([[User talk:Matt.ruhstaller|talk]]) 15:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.

Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.

:You declared a conflict of interest, what is the general nature of it?

:The draft just documents his qualifications and work. It should mostly summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] '''with significant coverage''' choose on their own to say about him and what makes him [[WP:PRODUCER|a notable creative professional]]. Most of the claim looks to be like he is associated with notable people, but [[WP:NOTINHERITED|notability is not inherited by association]]. You talk a little about a photo of Madonna kissing Britney Spears, but don't discuss it beyond it being widely printed, which is the case for images of any top tier celebrity. Do any sources discuss the photo itself and its artistry/style that presumably the photographer played a role in? Stuff like that. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::Re conflict of interest: I know this person socially.

::Thank you so much for the clear explanation, I'll work on those concerns and re-submit. Super helpful, thanks! [[User:Matt.ruhstaller|M]] ([[User talk:Matt.ruhstaller|talk]]) 15:51, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Matt.ruhstaller|Matt.ruhstaller]]: this draft was declined for lack of evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]]. There are two ways to demonstrate that, either via the general [[WP:GNG]] or the special [[WP:PHOTOGRAPHER]] notability guidelines. Study those, and see if you can find evidence that the subject meets either. (Hint: the GNG one needs coverage in multiple secondary sources; the PHOTOGRAPHER one requires a significant career with major achievements in their field.) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.

== 18:29, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Ganbatte Michelle ==

{{Lafc|username=Ganbatte Michelle|ts=18:29, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Ganbatte_Convention}}

On which part of content i have to fix issues, please confirm [[User:Ganbatte Michelle|Ganbatte Michelle]] ([[User talk:Ganbatte Michelle|talk]]) 18:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Ganbatte Michelle|Ganbatte Michelle]]: primary sources, which is all your draft cites, do not establish notability per [[WP:GNG]].

:What is your relationship with this subject? This has been queried on your talk page, but I don't believe you've responded. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 18:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

::I made a replied to DoubleGrazing, what kind of citation needed to establish notability, does it includes news and articles independently covering the events of this organization?? [[User:Ganbatte Michelle|Ganbatte Michelle]] ([[User talk:Ganbatte Michelle|talk]]) 09:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 21:25, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Marchjuly ==

{{Lafc|username=Marchjuly|ts=21:25, 17 September 2024|draft=Thomas Hui To}}

Would an AfC reviewer mind taking a look at [[:Thomas Hui To]]? It appears to have been submitted for review by the article's creator, who then moved it directly to the mainspace themselves a few weeks later. There's also some mention of the creator being "connected" to the subject in a post made at [[:Talk:Thomas Hui To]]: so, their moving the draft to the mainspace themselves could be an issue per [[:WP:COIEDIT]]. The article has already been drafitified once by another user; so, perhaps that option is no longer available any longer. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 21:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

= August 30 =

== 22:04, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Shakerpm ==

{{Lafc|username=Shakerpm|ts=22:04, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:The Killing of Miles Hall}}

My page was declined and would like some help in making it approvable. "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations." These are the comments that were left. How can I find "reliable" resources and what does the second comment refer to? Is there a minimum number of citations/footnotes that are required? [[User:Shakerpm|Patty Mitchell]] ([[User talk:Shakerpm|talk]]) 22:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==

:The guideline page [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources]] gives helpful guidance on identifying reliable sources. Think: expert-written articles, major news organizations, academic journals, etc. There is not a minimum number of required citations, but it is good practice to add inline citations (referring to these: [1][2][3]), for all the facts included in your draft. [[User:Ca|Ca]] <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">[[User talk:Ca|talk to me!]]</sup></i> 04:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:

*I removed the urls, which are unnecessary(and in the case of the header interfere with its proper display). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

* Rewritten in neutral prose.

== 22:19, 17 September 2024 review of submission by 2A02:C7C:EE1E:9E00:F882:29D5:1B6D:EB1D ==

* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).

{{Lafc|username=2A02:C7C:EE1E:9E00:F882:29D5:1B6D:EB1D|ts=22:19, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Suchandrika_Chakrabarti}}

* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).

Hello! Would like a bit more help with improving this entry after it was declined, if possible? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:EE1E:9E00:F882:29D5:1B6D:EB1D|2A02:C7C:EE1E:9E00:F882:29D5:1B6D:EB1D]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:EE1E:9E00:F882:29D5:1B6D:EB1D|talk]]) 22:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.

Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?

== 22:53, 17 September 2024 review of submission by Elfelix ==

Thanks very much.

{{Lafc|username=Elfelix|ts=22:53, 17 September 2024|draft=Draft:Sudarshan_Kapur}}

[[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] second request: [[Draft:Sudarshan Kapur]].

[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Sudarshan Kapur is '''NOT''' the same person as Sudarshan Kapoor (see [[Talk:Sudarshan Kapoor]] and [[Draft talk:Sudarshan Kapur]]). Note: the book ''Raising Up a Prophet'' (1992) was written by Sudarshan Kapur.

:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==

The first AfC request was recently refused based on a patent misunderstanding of the above information.

{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}

My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

The above Draft article about Sudarshan Kapur should be entered into Wikipedia proper. It was recently written (since November 2023, and by elfelix starting April 2024); it includes information once mistakenly contained in another Wikipedia article ("Sudarshan Kapoor"). Apparently the reason why the above Draft article was not 'in due course' published on Wikipedia is due to its conflation with that prior article of a similar name: "Sudarshan Kapoor".

::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==

The article [[Sudarshan Kapoor]], by mistake, used to contained information about Sudarshan Kapur. This mistaken information in the Kapoor article was deleted on June 6, 2024.

{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}

You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

The basic difference between these two articles is already stated above.

:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] ^{[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]} 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] ^{[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]} 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==

The reasons for the mistaken conflation of Kapur and Kapoor: 1) both are American professors of similar age, originally from India, with a career focus on Gandhi and nonviolent political action; 2) it seems that a person of India with such a name might transliterate it to either Kapur or to Kapoor.

{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}

Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.

:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==

The user elfelix is the party first responsible for this Wikipedia mistake.

{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}

Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

The AfC first request by elfelix was likely made in June 2024. [[User:Elfelix|Elfelix]] ([[User talk:Elfelix|talk]]) 22:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

== 2321:1131, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by TheBestWikiPublisherMatthewbyver ==

{{Lafc|username=TheBestWikiPublisherMatthewbyver|ts=2321:1131, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:3G_Capital_ManagementMatthew_Byver}}

There'sMy nopage submissionis buttonnot for me to resubmit my edited work. I have reliable sources- if WSJpromotion, Barron'sis andto Thehelp Globea andsmall Mailmusic aren'tartist reliableto sourcesbuild thenhis I'mcareer notby sureoffering what else toadditional say.informations [[User:TheBestWikiPublisherMatthewbyver|TheBestWikiPublisherMatthewbyver]] ([[User talk:TheBestWikiPublisherMatthewbyver|talk]]) 2321:1131, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:There is no resubmit button because the draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. It's the end of the line for the draft. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company amd what it does. An article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 2321:1340, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Aimee St69.255.14.Clair163 ==

{{Lafc|username=Aimee St69.Clair255.14.163|ts=2321:1340, 1730 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=DraftUser:Ed WoodhamWiseman2025/sandbox}}

has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

The article I submitted was declined for tone, perceived lack of neutrality, and possibly "peacock phrases". I'm going to try again but could use some specific feedback if someone is able to point out the specific parts of the article that are in need of editing. [[User:Aimee St.Clair|Aimee St.Clair]] ([[User talk:Aimee St.Clair|talk]]) 23:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:I fixed your link, you need the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

:Hello @[[User:Aimee St.Clair|Aimee St.Clair]]. I do agree that the draft contains tone issues. To give examples, {{tq|Utilizing queer aesthetic strategies and often employing humor to challenge social codes and conditions, Woodham's work activates specific contexts, bringing focus to the moment, along with shifts in awareness and perspective.}} sounds quite obtuse to me, and is an opinion not attributed to any specific critic.

:{{tq|a festival that brings a thematically organized concentration of art experiences to public spaces}} and {{tq|aspired to a renewal of the site through historical reclamation and expressions of community rights to public space}} can be shortened with less flowery prose.

:{{tq|...the festival's long history}} "long history" sound promotional. [[User:Ca|Ca]] <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">[[User talk:Ca|talk to me!]]</sup></i> 04:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.

= September 18 =

:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

= August 31 =

== 04:11, 18 September 2024 review of submission by 1972SUnite ==

{{Lafc|username=1972SUnite|ts=04:11, 18 September 2024|draft=Draft:1972_Students_United_of_Southern_University}}

My article was declined due to unreliable resources. However, my resources, i.e. the news articles cited, are credible, but I believe the reason that they are being flagged is because the url to these articles require subscriptions to view. Because these are historic newspapers, from the 1970s, while they may not be easily accessible they can be located with a few extra steps.

== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==

In this situation, would I be better off not linking the articles to a url, and citing only the articles themselves? [[User:1972SUnite|1972SUnite]] ([[User talk:1972SUnite|talk]]) 04:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}

I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:I believe the reviewer was more concerned about its sparse sourcing rather than reliability. Many of the claims present are not backed up with a inline citation, and contains unattributed opinions. Text like " The events of November 16, 1972, may have tested their endurance, but their unwavering commitment to the development of Black social consciousness remains and will continue to be an everlasting legacy." belongs in an argumentative essay, not in an encyclopedia. Note that ChatGPT and other text-generating AIs are poor in generating prose with dry prose, and you should edit them. [[User:Ca|Ca]] <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">[[User talk:Ca|talk to me!]]</sup></i> 04:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

:Also, do you really own the copyrights to the historic pictures? [[User:Ca|Ca]] <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;">[[User talk:Ca|talk to me!]]</sup></i> 04:31, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== 0619:2653, 1831 SeptemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Saddam19Thilio ==

{{Lafc|username=Saddam19Thilio|ts=0619:2653, 1831 SeptemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Madarsa Rahmatul-Uloom NaukatolaAY_Poyoo}}

This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]^{[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]} 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

hi wikipedia

:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.

i want to this draft Madarsa_Rahmatul-Uloom_Naukatola to an artical post on wikipedia this a eduction centre in my city raxaul far from 4 km a small village naukatola and this madarsa is very popular in around the raxaul sub division . please help me .

:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]^{[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]} 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==

thank you

{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}

your user saddam19 [[User:Saddam19|Saddam19]] ([[User talk:Saddam19|talk]]) 06:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.

and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.

:@[[User:Saddam19|Saddam19]]: your draft hasn't been reviewed because you haven't submitted it yet. That said, there is no point in submitting it as it stands, because it is only referenced with Facebook, which is not an acceptable source. See the notability guideline for organisations, [[WP:ORG]], which tells you what sort of sources we need to see before this draft can be accepted for publication. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.

== 06:29, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Top famous 2021 ==

{{Lafc|username=Top famous 2021|ts=06:29, 18 September 2024|draft=Draft:Ahsan_Ali_Dinpur}}

edit this page [[User:Top famous 2021|Top famous 2021]] ([[User talk:Top famous 2021|talk]]) 06:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:TopI famousam 2021|Topa famousnewbie 2021]]:but thisa draftpassionate hasone beenat rejected,that. asThank you very well know. And please stop removing the AfC templates, this has been pointed out before. -- [[User:DoubleGrazingProfZacchaeus|DoubleGrazingProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazingProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 0621:3203, 1831 SeptemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)

:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.

== 07:52, 18 September 2024 review of submission by Pratikshourabh1122 ==

:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Pratikshourabh1122|ts=07:52, 18 September 2024|draft=Draft:PRATIK_SHOURABH}}

can you help me what to do to get publish [[User:Pratikshourabh1122|Pratikshourabh1122]] ([[User talk:Pratikshourabh1122|talk]]) 07:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

= September 1 =

:@[[User:Pratikshourabh1122|Pratikshourabh1122]]: I've posted advice on your talk page, which I presume you didn't read, because you came to ask on my talk page, which I answered, and you probably didn't read that either, as you're now here. This is not LinkedIn, where you tell the world about yourself and your software development etc. skills. This is an encyclopaedia. If your only objective here is self-promotion, you need to stop now and find a different outlet for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

::I gave my highly useful and carefully thought out deletion notice [[User:Deepfriedokra|&#45;- Deepfriedokra]] ([[User talk:Deepfriedokra|talk]]) 08:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== 0805:0122, 181 September 20242025 review of submission by Mellouis98337濵島 ==

{{Lafc|username=Mellouis98337濵島|ts=0805:0122, 181 September 20242025|draft=Draft:My_Safe_ResumeYOHO_BREWING}}

Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Can you assist me on how to get my draft submitted? [[User:Mellouis98337|Mellouis98337]] ([[User talk:Mellouis98337|talk]]) 08:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Mellouis98337|Mellouis98337]]: Wikipedia is not the place to promote your website, you need to find other marketing channels for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

== 11:5713, 181 September 20242025 review of submission by PratapAmir singh112Gull1 ==

{{Lafc|username=PratapAmir singh112Gull1|ts=11:5713, 181 September 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Pratap_singh112/sandboxAmir_Gull_Timuri}}

Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".

Please let me know who to write the article [[User:Pratap singh112|Pratap singh112]] ([[User talk:Pratap singh112|talk]]) 11:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.

Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.

Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:13, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== 11:14, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Amir Gull1 ==

:Your draft was deleted as blatant promotion. Promotional activities are not permitted here. If what I assume is your company(if you work for this company, that must be disclosed, see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]) merits a Wikipedia article according to [[WP:ORG|our definition of a notable company]], someone independent of the company will eventually write one. I suggest you go on about the work of your company as if Wikipedia did not exist. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Amir Gull1|ts=11:14, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Amir_Gull_Timuri}}

Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".

I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.

Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.

Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)