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== 0203:3912, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by InformationappearedIanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=InformationappearedIanResearch|ts=0203:3912, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Capturing_of_the_Kurdistan_Workers'_PartyZigZagZurich}}
Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Is my draft too short?
If you agree with this statement, please submit it as a stub. [[User:Informationappeared|Informationappeared]] ([[User talk:Informationappeared|talk]]) 02:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
:I'm not sure about the length requirement for a draft but you should add an infobox. [[User:Ethiopian Epic|EEpic]] ([[User talk:Ethiopian Epic|talk]]) 06:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Informationappeared|Informationappeared]]: there is no such thing as "too short", really, as long as the draft provides enough information to be a meaningful description of its subject and the context.
:I've no idea what you mean by {{tq|"submit it as a stub"}}. It probably is ''stub length'', but this has no bearing on anything.
:And no, @[[User:Ethiopian Epic|Ethiopian Epic]], there is no requirement to add an infobox, and this wouldn't in any way affect a draft's chances of being accepted. Please don't give out misleading information. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== 0805:2328, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by RhumagaiAndeHuang ==
{{Lafc|username=RhumagaiAndeHuang|ts=0805:2328, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Humagain_HistoryWinmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
why my article not accepted [[User:Rhumagai|Rhumagai]] ([[User talk:Rhumagai|talk]]) 08:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
:It is a completely unreferenced essay that draws conclusions; [[WP:OR|original research]] is not permitted on Wikipedia. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about topics that [[WP:N|meet our criteria]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:06:40, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by 111109.92252.104122.16222 ==
{{Lafc|username=111109.92252.104122.16222|ts=1106:0640, 1128 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Radio Neythal 107.8 FMMaxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
What is the error in this draft. help me complete this [[Special:Contributions/111.92.104.16|111.92.104.16]] ([[User talk:111.92.104.16|talk]]) 11:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for your work!
:Reviewers are here to advice, not co-write. The sources in the draft are not [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]], and more [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] are needed to establish [[WP:N|notability]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 11:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
:The "error" in it is that there is no evidence that the subject is [[WP:notable|notable]]. The draft cites two sources, of which one makes only the briefest of passing mentions of this station.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
:And if you just resubmit without even trying to address the decline reason, eventually the draft will get rejected outright, without the option to resubmit. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:10, 11 December 2024 review of submission by Petsquirrel ==
{{Lafc|username=Petsquirrel|ts=11:10, 11 December 2024|draft=Tetsuo_Kogawa}}
hi! this page recently got approved for creation and was rated Start class. I'd like to improve it, can you recommend some steps I should take? thanks :) [[User:Petsquirrel|Petsquirrel]] ([[User talk:Petsquirrel|talk]]) 11:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
:Hi @[[User:Petsquirrel|Petsquirrel]]: once an article has been accepted it is no longer within the purview of the AfC project; you should therefore ask for general advice and support at the [[WP:Teahouse|Teahouse]] or [[WP:Help desk|Help desk]] instead. That said, I would suggest that you take a look at the content assessment grades and criteria at [[WP:ASSESS]]; these will give you an indication of what is needed for an article to reach the next grade level. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:52, 11 December 2024 review of submission by Ridademello ==
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Ridademello|ts=13:52, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:Hussain_Tahir}}
:Comments on your assessment table:
hello this article am trying to submit keeps getting rejected, i have provided decent sources. can you give me any advice for it to advance through [[User:Ridademello|Ridademello]] ([[User talk:Ridademello|talk]]) 13:52, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==
:@[[User:Ridademello|Ridademello]]: this draft has been rejected due to persistent failure to comply with the relevant policies. It will therefore not be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 14:37, 11 December 2024 review of submission by MegKat1 ==
{{Lafc|username=MegKat1|ts=14:37, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:Hawaii_Fire_Chiefs_Association}}
I tried to search for additional references meeting the criteria, but was unable to locate substantial sources to add credibility to the article. Is it possible to delete it entirely? I couldn't find a way so far. Thank you. [[User:MegKat1|MegKat1]] ([[User talk:MegKat1|talk]]) 14:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== 14:57, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Aras2025 ==
:@[[User:MegKat1|MegKat1]]: you want this draft to be deleted? Okay. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Aras2025|ts=14:57, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Radio_Duhok}}
:I will delete it per your request. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:42, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
::Thank you. [[User:MegKat1|MegKat1]] ([[User talk:MegKat1|talk]]) 15:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
== 16:02, 11 December 2024 review of submission by It's Ferdux ==
{{Lafc|username=It's Ferdux|ts=16:02, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:It's_Ferdux}}
My page was lost so double tapped [[User:It's Ferdux|It's Ferdux]] ([[User talk:It's Ferdux|talk]]) 16:02, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
:@[[User:It's Ferdux|It's Ferdux]]: I don't know what "double tapped" means, but you need to stop this before you get yourself blocked. Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself, or anything else for that matter. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:04, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
== 19:17, 11 December 2024 review of submission by Johnytiger ==
{{Lafc|username=Johnytiger|ts=19:17, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:Johnytiger}}
I hope this message finds you well. I am seeking assistance with creating a Wikipedia page to document my career and contributions. Over the years, I have worked on several notable projects, including collaborations with the band I Set My Friends on Fire and appearances in their music videos.
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Unfortunately, many of the references I previously had in major publications have since been removed, making it challenging to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I have compiled the best available references and am exploring whether my documented contributions to music videos and other media can be used as valid citations.
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
I would greatly appreciate your expertise in navigating Wikipedia’s requirements and ensuring my page adheres to their standards. Please let me know how we can collaborate or if there are additional steps I should take to support this effort.
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your guidance. [[User:Johnytiger|Johnytiger]] ([[User talk:Johnytiger|talk]]) 19:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=16:50, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:Hi @[[User:Johnytiger|Johnytiger]]! Unfortunately, your draft has been rejected - this often happens when you submit drafts quickly without fixing the issues noted by the previous reviewer. This means you cannot submit it again. If you are quite sure you want to try again, you'll need to read through the policies I'm about to link, as well as the pages linked by the reviewers, and fix the draft to the best of your ability. You can then appeal to the last reviewer - but be sure you've followed all the policies to have a chance of success.
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
:The main policy that you would need to follow is [[WP:BLP]], for biographies of living people. It might sound silly for us to say you need to be able to prove that every single sentence you've written is correct - after all, it's you who's writing it - but we do this for the protection of anyone who has a Wikipedia article, so that no one can insert untruthful and potentially damaging lies. Take a look at [[WP:REFB]], referencing for beginners, as well - your draft is effectively unreferenced, since all the references are in a pile at the end rather than supporting statements in the draft. You'll need to make sure the references support each statement as specified there. Make sure every reference conforms to all three criteria in [[WP:42]]!
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Last but certainly not least, keep in mind that if your draft is accepted, it leaves your control completely. Other people can and will begin to edit it, and anything in your past - or your future! - that you would want to keep hidden may show up in the article. There are many reasons not to want a Wikipedia article; see [[WP:ABOUTME]] for more information.
:I hope this helps, and wish you all the best. [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 00:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not "to document" anything - it is only interested in subjects which have already been documented in reliably-published places, independently of the subject. So an article about you should be based almost entirely on what people wholly unconnected with you have chosen to publish about you, not on what you or your associated say or want to say.
:More fundamental in this context is that [[WP:autobiography|writing about yourself]] is very strongly discouraged on Wikipedia, as very few people can succeed in writing sufficiently neutrally about themselves. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:18, 11 December 2024 review of submission by BarComos ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=BarComos|ts=19:18, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:Gio Canto}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
Hello, I would like to know the exact reason for the rejection of the draft. As an additional note, the person mentioned in the article could have been the youngest individual to present at the Guadalajara International Book Fair, especially considering their age. [[User:BarComos|BarComos]] ([[User talk:BarComos|talk]]) 19:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
:{{u|BarComos}} The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
:You haven't demonstrated that he is [[WP:NWRITER|a notable creative professional]] or more broadly [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::[[User:331dot|331dot]] thanks for explaining the difference between "declined" and "rejected". I’d like to share a few reasons why I believe Gio Canto meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines and why this draft deserves another look.
::'''Participation at FIL Guadalajara 2024''': Gio was one of the youngest authors at the Guadalajara International Book Fair, which is a major literary event in the Spanish-speaking world. This is a significant achievement for someone so young, and it’s been covered by reliable sources like ''El Occidental'' and ''Quadratín Guerrero''.
:: '''Established Publishing Record''': He’s published four books since 2022 in genres like sci-fi and fantasy. These books are available on international platforms like Open Library, which shows his work isn’t just local but has a broader reach.
::'''Media Coverage''': There’s been consistent coverage of his work and achievements by Mexican media outlets like ''El Sol de Chilpancingo'' and ''El Sol de Acapulco''. This shows there’s ongoing public and media interest in his career.
::'''Entrepreneurship''': At 13, Gio founded his own publishing imprint, Gio Canto Books, which he’s used to publish his works. He also wrote a thoughtful article on AI in publishing, showing he’s engaging with relevant issues in the industry.
:: '''Meets Notability Guidelines''': Wikipedia considers people notable if their achievements are widely covered by independent, reliable sources, and Gio’s career ticks these boxes.
::I’d be happy to improve the draft further if needed, :) [[User:BarComos|BarComos]] ([[User talk:BarComos|talk]]) 19:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::It sounds like the Fair doesn't contribute to him being a notable writer, as while he presented his work in the fair, it doesn't sound like it was "a '''substantial''' part of a significant exhibition"(my emphasis), it was one small part of the fair. He started his own company, which is uncommon but not unheard of for children, and little of the draft is devoted to that aspect of his life. Self-publishing a novel does not contribute to notability, as anyone can self-publish anything. Writing an article means little unless you have sources that describe a particular influence his article had. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::He might be a notable person, but if his claim to notability is "he's a young businessman and writer" you'll need sources that discuss the significance of that. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Hi [[User:331dot|331dot]] thank you for taking the time to respond and share your perspective. I’d like to address your concerns in more detail and clarify why Gio Canto meets Wikipedia’s notability criteria. Gio’s participation in the Guadalajara International Book Fair (FIL) 2024 was not just a casual inclusion. At the age of 15, he was one of the youngest authors to present at the fair, an event that is widely recognised as a major cultural platform in the Spanish-speaking world. This achievement was highlighted in media outlets such as *El Occidental* and *Quadratín Guerrero*, which drew attention to his unique position and talent. While I understand that presenting at the FIL alone may not establish notability, the media coverage surrounding his participation demonstrates that his presence was considered significant by reliable sources. Regarding his work as a publisher and writer, Gio founded his own publishing house, Gio Canto Books, at the age of 13. Through this imprint, he has published four books in multiple genres, including science fiction and fantasy, which have been distributed on international platforms such as Amazon and Apple Books. Additionally, Gio Canto is officially registered as a publisher with Mexico’s National Institute of Copyright (INDAutor), a status reflected in the public ISBN catalogue (https://isbnmexico.indautor.cerlalc.org/catalogo.php?mode=detalle&nt=435299). This formal recognition adds to the legitimacy of his contributions to the literary field. Gio Canto Books also has a notable online presence, including a professional profile on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/gio-canto-books/about/?viewAsMember=true) and, if I recall correctly, a dedicated 800-number in Mexico as part of their contact system. These elements reflect an operational publishing house with efforts to reach a wide audience, further legitimising Gio’s entrepreneurial endeavours. While self-publishing itself is not inherently notable, Gio’s ability to consistently attract media attention for his works suggests a broader public and cultural interest in his career. Publications such as *El Sol de Chilpancingo* and *El Sol de Acapulco* have discussed his achievements, further supporting his relevance. You mentioned that writing an article alone does not establish notability, which I fully agree with. However, Gio’s article on the role of AI in publishing, published on Zenodo, reflects his engagement with contemporary issues in the literary industry. While its influence may not yet be widely documented, it complements the narrative of a young professional actively contributing to his field. I recognise that Wikipedia requires significant and independent coverage to establish notability. Gio’s story has been covered by multiple reliable sources that discuss his achievements as a young writer, entrepreneur, and cultural participant. If the draft does not sufficiently emphasise these aspects, I’m more than willing to make improvements to better align with Wikipedia’s standards. I appreciate your feedback and look forward to hearing if these points help address your concerns. :) [[User:BarComos|BarComos]] ([[User talk:BarComos|talk]]) 20:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::The source about the fair came up as not found. You say sources brought "visibility to his efforts in the literary community" but don't say what the significance of that visibility is or what his specific impact to the literary community is.
:::::You say "Gio founded his own publishing imprint, Gio Canto Books, at the age of 13. The company not only serves as the platform for his self-published works but also reflects his entrepreneurial approach to the publishing industry." What is that approach? What is the significance of him founding a company to publish his own books? And a LinkedIn page is not an acceptable source. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Hi [[User:331dot|331dot]], thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate your thoughts, and I’d like to address the points you’ve raised as clearly as possible. About the Guadalajara International Book Fair (FIL) source, I apologise if the link didn’t work earlier. Gio’s participation was highlighted by media outlets like *El Occidental* and *El Sol de Acapulco*, focusing on his status as one of the youngest authors at the event and his journey as an emerging writer. While his age alone might not be enough for notability, the media coverage suggests that his presence caught attention and resonated with the public. I can look for additional sources if that would help make this clearer. On Gio Canto Books, I understand your question about its significance. While many people self-publish, founding a publishing imprint at 13 is uncommon, especially when it’s structured as a registered business. According to the official website (https://giocantobooks.com/), Gio Canto Books is a trade name owned by Gio Antonio Canto Gómez, formally registered as a "Persona Física con Actividad Empresarial" in Mexico under the Commercial Code and Income Tax Law. This formal registration adds legitimacy to the imprint and distinguishes it from casual self-publishing efforts. Additionally, the website outlines the editorial services offered by the imprint, demonstrating its active role as a professional publishing entity. As for his impact on the literary community, it’s fair to say his career is still evolving. However, his work has already gained visibility through media coverage, his participation in FIL, and the distribution of his books on international platforms. His efforts are starting to carve out a space for him as an emerging voice in young adult speculative fiction. This visibility has brought attention to his books and his story, which have inspired interest in his journey as a young writer. I completely understand that notability needs to be demonstrated through reliable, independent sources, and I’m more than happy to strengthen the draft with better references and clearer explanations. If there’s a specific part of the draft that needs more detail, let me know, and I’ll work on it. Thanks again for your feedback and for taking the time to guide me through this process. [[User:BarComos|BarComos]] ([[User talk:BarComos|talk]]) 21:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Your use of the terms "emerging writer", "career is still evolving",."starting to carve out", "emerging voice" etc. is a strong indication that it is [[WP:TOOSOON|too soon for an article]] about him. Being visible isn't in and of itself notable, there needs to be an impact. He sounds to me like a smart young man getting an early start on his career, but his impact hasn't really been determined yet. Feel free to not rely on me alone and get other opinions. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::::My opinion aligns with 331dot's. A Wikipedia article is little more than a distraction from one's career and [[m:nofollow|isn't going to help them be found]]; a ''badly-written-and-sourced'' Wikipedia article also runs the risk of damaging their career as it comes across as the guy trying to use it to promote themselves. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 19:29, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 20:28, 11 December 2024 review of submission by Mxs116 ==
{{Lafc|username=Mxs116|ts=20:28, 11 December 2024|draft=User:Mxs116/sandbox}}
Why was my article rejected? [[User:Mxs116|Mxs116]] ([[User talk:Mxs116|talk]]) 20:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:Wikipedia is not a place for you to tell about your own projects. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
Hello team,
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 21:05, 11 December 2024 review of submission by 47.178.25.93 ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=47.178.25.93|ts=21:05, 11 December 2024|draft=Draft:Gem-Pack_Berries}}
:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm reaching out to request further information about the decline reasons provided for my Wikipedia article draft.
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
Upon joining a new Wiki user, I was prompted to peer edit a handful of live/existing pages when I joined the platform that appeared to have many glaring issues. I am trying to understand why the one I drafted was declined in contrast, so I can better ascertain what to fix in my draft to avoid having it declined in subsequent reviews.
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
First, regarding "reliable sources" — it appears the draft was declined on the basis of citing a first-party source- i.e. the subject/topic's (Gem Pack Berries) own website. 1) is that assumption correct? and 2) is there ever an allowable instance where the subject's own website can be cited a Wikapedia page's source list, or will that always be flagged as a decline reason? I'm asking because I initially included it in my draft's source list since the material provided on the Gem Pack Berries website was informational and I had wanted to reference some of those notes in the Wikipedia page.
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
= August 29 =
Second, regarding the subject "not qualifying for a Wikipedia article" based on the source criteria listed (in depth, reliable, secondary, strictly independent). Again I'd like to better understand how that's evaluated, as I have seen several other examples that do not meet some or all of these criteria. Is the expectation to meet all? Some? Most? Any additional detail on how this is evaluated would be much appreciated so I know what exactly to improve for the next round of revisions to my draft. I.e. does it just boil down to removing the subject's first-party website from the source list? That's the only thing I can really spot from my end that seems to go against the criteria. But again I wasn't aware that it was all or nothing and would thus decline the whole page.
== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==
Thanks for bearing with my questions as I'm learning and adapting to the platform. Appreciate any insights you can provide. [[Special:Contributions/47.178.25.93|47.178.25.93]] ([[User talk:47.178.25.93|talk]]) 21:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:PRIMARY]] for more information about how primary sources can be used- but they cannot be used to establish notability. That requires significant coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. We don't want to know what a subject says about themselves or what their associates say about it, but what people wholly unconnected with the topic choose on their own to say about it, and not based on materials fed to them by the subject.
:You have only summarized the routine business activities of the company and what it sees as its own history- routine business activities do not establish notability(see [[WP:ORG]] for the notability criteria) and we don't want to know what the company considers to be its own history, we want to know what others say it is.
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]; it is usually a poor idea to use any random article as a model or example, as these other articles could themselves be inappropriate and simply not addressed yet by a volunteer, and you would be unaware of that as a new user. If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are [[WP:GOODARTICLE|classified as good articles]], which have received community vetting. If you would like to help us, please identify these other articles you have seen so we can take aaction. We need the help; we are only as good as the people who choose to help. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:26, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
= December 12 =
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
== 00:08, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Natiejournalist ==
{{Lafc|username=Natiejournalist|ts=00:08, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Paolo_Lusso}}
I submitted the draft a few times now with ALL the cited references inline and with direct links to the footnotes. Still, my last submission was declined because it was "not adequately supported by reliable sources". What does it mean? Can you instruct on how to finally get the draft approved? Thank you! [[User:Natiejournalist|Natiejournalist]] ([[User talk:Natiejournalist|talk]]) 00:08, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Natiejournalist|Natiejournalist]] as this article is about a [[WP:BLP|living person]], every statement is expected to be [[WP:V|supported]] by at least one reference. The "Education" and "Career" sections are mostly unsourced. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 00:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 03:20, 12 December 2024 review of submission by BarComos ==
{{Lafc|username=BarComos|ts=03:20, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Gio_Canto}}
The input of another editor is requested to confirm or accept the draft mentioned in this discussion: "19:18, 11 December 2024, review of submission by BarComos" with user 331dot. A second opinion is requested to determine the page. It is recommended to review the previous conversation for additional context. ; thanks you :) [[User:BarComos|BarComos]] ([[User talk:BarComos|talk]]) 03:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
:@[[User:BarComos|BarComos]], what are you looking for? Are you asking for someone else to review the draft? If so, you can resubmit it - however, I would not do this without paying attention to the feedback given by both Ibjaja055 (in the draft) and 331dot (on this helpdesk). Both are experienced editors and they have given you good advice. If you are asking whether to listen to 331dot, then the answer is yes, you should pay close attention and take their advice. They have gone out of their way to help and given you detailed information that is very relevant to your draft. [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 08:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
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:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 06:15, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Laffuble ==
{{Lafc|username=Laffuble|ts=06:15, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Reservoir_chamber_(instrument)}}
I am simply confused on how to use the citation bot. [[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] ([[User talk:Laffuble|talk]]) 06:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
=== 0611:1632, 1229 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by LaffubleNewacctowork ===
{{Lafc|username=LaffubleNewacctowork|ts=0611:1632, 1229 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=Draft:Madagascar_bananaTrinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
I am simply confused on how to use the citation bot. [[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] ([[User talk:Laffuble|talk]]) 06:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
:@[[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] {{u|Citation bot}} only fixes formatting issues in references, but there aren't any in the drafts. What would you like the bot to do? <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 07:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
::Ah! My sincere apologies I am still new to wiki and did not know.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you. [[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] ([[User talk:Laffuble|talk]]) 07:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::But, I do have one more question. What does it mean by "Submissions should summarize information in
:::==>"secondary"<==, reliable sources? [[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] ([[User talk:Laffuble|talk]]) 07:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Drafts need to demonstrate [[WP:N|notability]] in order to be accepted. [[WP:IS|Secondary]] [[WP:RS|reliable]] sources establish notability. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 07:34, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Ok. Thanks! [[User:Laffuble|Laffuble]] ([[User talk:Laffuble|talk]]) 07:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
== 07:30, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Aarush indus ==
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
{{Lafc|username=Aarush indus|ts=07:30, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Adqh111_(Apu)}}
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
How Do I Take This Page Down?
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:00, 29 August 2025 review of submission by GeorgeHav ==
Aarush Indus [[User:Aarush indus|Aarush indus]] ([[User talk:Aarush indus|talk]]) 07:30, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=GeorgeHav|ts=12:00, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:FlightSimExpo}}
:@[[User:Aarush indus|Aarush indus]] {{done}}, tagged for deletion per [[WP:G7]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 07:35, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 08:11, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Writer Johnc ==
::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Writer Johnc|ts=08:11, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Orion_Land}}
:::I would talk much less about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about it. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. (December 2024)
::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==
I recently received a notification indicating that I need to report to Wikipedia regarding i work for my employer to create an article about "Orion Land." I would appreciate guidance on where I should report this information and any instructions or guidelines on creating the article content.
{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
Thank you for your assistance. [[User:Writer Johnc|Writer Johnc]] ([[User talk:Writer Johnc|talk]]) 08:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:25, 29 August 2025 review of submission by FurretSuperFan ==
:@[[User:Writer Johnc|Writer Johnc]]: the instructions for disclosing your paid-editing status are given in the notice(s) posted on your talk page. Simply put, you need to place the {{tl|Paid}} template, duly filled-in, on your user page. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=FurretSuperFan|ts=17:25, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Greatest_Idol}}
:Hi @[[User:Writer Johnc|Writer Johnc]], thank you for being open. You'll find lots of information at [[WP:PAID]], but the quickest and easiest way to make a disclosure is to place the following on your userpage:
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Paid|paid]]|employer=Orion Land<nowiki>}}</nowiki>
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
(if your employer is Orion Land - if not, change 'Orion Land' to the correct name of your employer).
:With regards to the content of the draft, your goal is to find sources that show us Orion Land is [[WP:NOTABLE|notable by Wikipedia standards]], which are very specific. For a company, the relevant guideline is [[WP:NCORP]]. All your sources should meet the triple criteria of [[WP:42]]. Sources do not need to be in English, if that helps. Happy editing! [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 08:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::<nowiki>Hello, I had just place the link "{{</nowiki>[[Template:Paid|paid]]<nowiki>|employer=Orion Land}}" on the Writer Johnc User page , is it okay for my action ?</nowiki>
::And what's the next i need to do? pls advise and guide me , ,many thanks [[User:Writer Johnc|Writer Johnc]] ([[User talk:Writer Johnc|talk]]) 09:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Writer Johnc|Writer Johnc]] Forgive me, but aren't you the one being paid to learn? You've made a correct disclosure. You have been given sufficient advice. Now, what comes next is your doing the work. That's why youi are being paid.
:::We, by contrast, are not being paid. That means we are unlikely to be interested in helping you to be. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 13:28, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}
:::That advice applies if anything ''more strongly'' to paid editors, since your work is likely to be scrutinised especially carefully. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
== 15:40, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Al Dorecl Sina ==
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Al Dorecl Sina|ts=15:40, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:MAHMOOD_•_iNKSTECHSHUB_STUDIO_INT'L}}
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
Hello dear Wiki team, why my article is denied????
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
It's a legit, I just wanted write about a photography company!!!
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
It's not an adult nor scam!!!!
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Wtf??
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Isn't Wikipedia for every things...????
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
I couldn't even post any pictures on the article 😞
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Anyway,
Kindly review my article and reconsider it to post it.
== 18:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Jetsonesque ==
Thanks & Best wishes. [[User:Al Dorecl Sina|Al Dorecl Sina]] ([[User talk:Al Dorecl Sina|talk]]) 15:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jetsonesque|ts=18:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
:@[[User:Al Dorecl Sina|Al Dorecl Sina]]: the draft was declined, because it is blank. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:PS: You also have another draft at [[Draft:MAHMOOD • iNKSTECHSHUB STUDIO INTERNATIONAL]] which does have content, but that's not the one you submitted for review.
:Does that answer your "Wtf"? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:And no, Wikipedia is not for everything. There is criteria for inclusion, called [[WP:N|notability]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
== 20:23, 12 December 2024 review of submission by Aasiea ==
{{Lafc|username=Aasiea|ts=20:23, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:Mahgul_M._Ali}}
The editor said that the references were not verifiable and were vague about which one. I'm struggling to pinpoint which one. [[User:Aasiea|Aasiea]] ([[User talk:Aasiea|talk]]) 20:23, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Aasiea|Aasiea]], have you reviewed the comments made during the previous reviews? There are still large sections of the draft uncited. Further, have you made a new account? I've left a notice on your talk page about using multiple accounts, please review the necessary information there. Thank you, [[User:Bobby Cohn|Bobby Cohn]] ([[User talk:Bobby Cohn|talk]]) 20:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 20:53, 12 December 2024 review of submission by MMM2267257 ==
{{Lafc|username=MMM2267257|ts=20:53, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:George_Vladutz}}
Hello! I struggle to understand why the draft article was rejected. All information is based on the two articles I linked, one of which is an obituary published in a highly reputable journal, and the other a scientific paper.
= August 30 =
Do you have suggestions on what needs to be changed for the article to be accepted? [[User:MMM2267257|MMM2267257]] ([[User talk:MMM2267257|talk]]) 20:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
:One obituary by people who evidently knew him is not an independent source; and neither is an article by him. And normally at least three sources that meet [[WP:42]] are required. The draft either needs to satisfy [[WP:NPROF]] or [[WP:GNG]]: at present it does neither. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
== 21:29, 12 December 2024 review of submission by A Real Living Person ==
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
{{Lafc|username=A Real Living Person|ts=21:29, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:The Jins (band)}}
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
My article here was just declined. This is my first article. It was something about sources and notability. Are my sources not credible? I am I lacking citations in important spots? This band I am writing about isn't giant but they have 190,000 monthly listeners on Spotify and articles written about them so I can't imagine their not notable enough for a Wikipedia page. So, as a new editor, I must've screwed some things up. Any and all help is appreciated. [[User:A Real Living Person|A Real Living Person]] ([[User talk:A Real Living Person|talk]]) 21:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
:The number of listeners is meaningless in terms of notability. You need to show that they meet at least one aspect of [[WP:BAND]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks very much.
:Hello, @[[User:A Real Living Person|A Real Living Person]]. I'm afraid you are having a very common experience for people who create an account and immediately start trying the very challenging task of creating a new article. Would you enter a major tournament immediately after you took up a sport for the first time?
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 23:00, 12 December 2024 review of submission by 17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071 ==
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071|ts=23:00, 12 December 2024|draft=Draft:A_History_of_Time}}
Critic needs to read the content!!! [[User:17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071|17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071]] ([[User talk:17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071|talk]]) 23:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
:Hello, @[[User:17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071|17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071]]. No, the reviewer does not need to read the content: you need to read [[WP:what Wikipedia is not|what Wikipedia is not]]. A Wikipedia article is a summary of what independent reliable sources have said about a subject, and very little else. In particular Wikipedia absolutely does not publish [[WP:original research|original research]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 23:55, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
::{{u|17081968DavidNeilHowes86918071}}, your draft bears no resemblance to an actual encyclopedia article. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:43, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
= December 13 =
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0013:26:1524, 1330 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of draftsubmission by Susan HackettDevolver789 ==
{{Lafc|username=Susan HackettDevolver789|ts=0013:26:1524, 1330 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=WikipediaDraft:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Add_WikiProject_tagsSteal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==
[[User:Susan Hackett|Susan Hackett]] ([[User talk:Susan Hackett|talk]]) 00:26, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
How to add find my title page for my article: Laura C. Gentile, renowned figure in the sports and marketing industry
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
:{{u|Susan Hackett}}, your draft is located at [[User:Susan Hackett/sandbox]]. It has a promotional tone in violation of the [[WP:NPOV|Neutral point of view]], a core content policy, and must be rewritten to comply. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 00:33, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I think I toned it down. thank you. [[User:Susan Hackett|Susan Hackett]] ([[User talk:Susan Hackett|talk]]) 00:49, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Susan Hackett|Susan Hackett]] you need to tone it down more. There are still [[WP:PEACOCK|peacocky]] words such as {{tq|groundbreaking platform}}, {{tq|Her vision to amplify}}, {{tq|crucial in adapting}}, etc. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 04:50, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|Susan Hackett}}, your draft is exceptionally poorly referenced. Every substantive assertion requires a reference to a reliable source that verifies that assertion. So, when you write that she was {{tpq|Born in 1972 in Oceanside, NY}}, you need to provide a reference to a published reliable source verifying that. When you write that she was {{tpq|earning accolades}} in high school, you need to provide a reference to a published reliable source discussing her "accolades". And so on with every other assertion that you make. You have many inappropriate [[WP:EL|External links]] in the body of the draft article. Almost all of then should be removed. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::Hello, @[[User:Susan Hackett|Susan Hackett]]. Like most editors who plunge into the challenging task of trying to create an article before they have spent time learning how Wikipedia works, you have written your draft [[WP:Backwards|Backwards]].
::{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== 0521:2931, 1330 DecemberAugust 20242025 review of submission by Ravi VenkatramanMatthewbyver ==
{{Lafc|username=Ravi VenkatramanMatthewbyver|ts=0521:2931, 1330 DecemberAugust 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Ravi_Venkatraman/sandboxMatthew_Byver}}
MayMy Ipage openis a pagenot for mepromotion, withis myto namehelp anda aftersmall pagemusic isartist createdto canbuild Ihis postcareer creditsby offering additional informations [[User:Ravi VenkatramanMatthewbyver|Ravi VenkatramanMatthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Ravi VenkatramanMatthewbyver|talk]]) 0521:2931, 1330 DecemberAugust 20242025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Ravi Venkatraman|Ravi Venkatraman]] I'm not sure what you mean by {{tq|post credits}}, but we cannot accept blank drafts. Also note that you are [[WP:AUTO|strongly discouaged]] from writing about yourself. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 06:12, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 08:36, 13 December 2024 review of submission by 2001:FB1:E3:9902:3859:44D5:E5BE:12E2 ==
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
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== 21:40, 30 August 2025 review of submission by 69.255.14.163 ==
[[Special:Contributions/2001:FB1:E3:9902:3859:44D5:E5BE:12E2|2001:FB1:E3:9902:3859:44D5:E5BE:12E2]] ([[User talk:2001:FB1:E3:9902:3859:44D5:E5BE:12E2|talk]]) 08:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=69.255.14.163|ts=21:40, 30 August 2025|draft=User:Wiseman2025/sandbox}}
has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
:Can you please unscramble that – do you have a question you'd like to ask? (And is it about a draft or the drafting process, as opposed to an existing article?) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:40, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= August 31 =
== 08:58, 13 December 2024 review of submission by 145.224.95.51 ==
{{Lafc|username=145.224.95.51|ts=08:58, 13 December 2024|draft=Draft:Kundai_Mbiriri}}
Is this worth of persuing or we should abondon it. If it is please advise how we can best do it. [[Special:Contributions/145.224.95.51|145.224.95.51]] ([[User talk:145.224.95.51|talk]]) 08:58, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
:If there is no further prospect of changing the draft to address the concerns given, it's not worth pursuing. It will be deleted after six months of inactivity, or you can place <nowiki>{{db-user}}</nowiki> on the draft to request its deletion faster. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:18, 13 December 2024 review of submission by Sophie.hampson ==
{{Lafc|username=Sophie.hampson|ts=12:18, 13 December 2024|draft=Draft:Bransby Horses}}
Hi
== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==
I recently submitted a page on Bransby Horses, but it was rejected by Wikipedia as it read like an ad. It stated that I needed to have a range of sources from independent and reliable publications and not from the charity itself. But not one of my sources links back to the charity's website and every single one is an external source, so I'm really confused how Wikipedia have come to this conclusion.
{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
Please could you advise on how I fix this. [[User:Sophie.hampson|Sophie.hampson]] ([[User talk:Sophie.hampson|talk]]) 12:18, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==
:@[[User:Sophie.hampson|Sophie.hampson]]: just to explain, the draft was declined for informal or non-neutral language, and I think it does have a vaguely promotional feel to it. (Also, information like opening hours and cost of entry is absolutely not needed and quite inappropriate for an encyclopaedia article.)
{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
:Where the decline notice mentions independent sources, it means (among other things) that when you say things like {{tq|"their experts also take part in external events and contribute to the global research community on equine health"}}, this must come from an independent source, ''you'' cannot call their people "experts" or contributors to global research, and neither can ''they'' themselves, that makes it just [[WP:peacock|peacock]] language.
Hello,
:I haven't looked at the sources in detail, but it's also possible that some of them regurgitate what someone from the charity has said (eg. in an interview) or written (eg. in a press statement), in which case although superficially the source looks independent, the ultimate source is actually the charity itself. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
::Hi
::Thank you for this feedback. This has really helped :) [[User:Sophie.hampson|Sophie.hampson]] ([[User talk:Sophie.hampson|talk]]) 14:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
== 13:39, 13 December 2024 review of submission by RHAMGA ==
{{Lafc|username=RHAMGA|ts=13:39, 13 December 2024|draft=Draft:British_Watch_and_Clock_Makers'_Guild}}
How to show the notability of the subject?
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
I have made a submission for adding a page, but it has been rejected due to the fact that the primary sources do not establish notability. Other UK based bodies that are related to the Guild currently have their own page, including:
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiquarian_Horological_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Clockmakers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Horological_Institute
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
The Guild was established in 1907 and has a larger membership that 2 of those 3 bodies. The British Horological Institute's (BHI) page only has sources that are from their own website, and so it is unclear why the notability for the Guild is being rejected, but not for the BHI.
:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= September 1 =
I am happy to make any necessary changes, but having read the notes from Wikipedia on the subject, I am not clear what I need to do. Thanks [[User:RHAMGA|RHAMGA]] ([[User talk:RHAMGA|talk]]) 13:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== 05:22, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 濵島 ==
:@[[User:RHAMGA|RHAMGA]]: it doesn't matter whether other comparable organisations have articles in Wikipedia, that is the so-called [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] argument, which is a fallacy. We don't assess drafts by comparison to existing articles, but rather by reference to the applicable policies and guidelines. Organisations must establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], which requires significant coverage in multiple (3+) secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent of the subject and of each other. Your draft cites almost exclusively primary sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:48, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=濵島|ts=05:22, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:YOHO_BREWING}}
:Thank you for pointing out those woefully undersourced articles. I have tagged two of them with their shortcomings: the third was already tagged. I suspect that [[WP:42|suitable source]] to establish [[WP:NORG|notability]] do not exist for any of the three, but I have no interest in searching for such sources. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 15:57, 13 December 2024 review of submission by Untitledwriter17 ==
{{Lafc|username=Untitledwriter17|ts=15:57, 13 December 2024|draft=Draft:Sree_Udhyan_.M}}
please tell me what is the problem so that I can resolve it [[User:Untitledwriter17|Untitledwriter17]] ([[User talk:Untitledwriter17|talk]]) 15:57, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:The reviewer left you a message as to what the reason was. Do you have questions about it? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Untitledwriter17|Untitledwriter17]]: apart from the fact that you're not [[WP:notable|notable]], you [[WP:AUTOBIO|shouldn't be writing about yourself]] in the first place. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:01, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
== 2311:5214, 131 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by Fryeng1990Amir Gull1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Fryeng1990Amir Gull1|ts=2311:5214, 131 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=UserDraft:Fryeng1990/sandboxAmir_Gull_Timuri}}
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
Soccer team [[User:Fryeng1990|Fryeng1990]] ([[User talk:Fryeng1990|talk]]) 23:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
:@[[User:Fryeng1990|Fryeng1990]] "soccer team" isn't a question, and the draft has been rejected as a blank submission. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 05:33, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
= December 14 =
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 05:13, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Skronk monster13 ==
{{Lafc|username=Skronk monster13|ts=05:13, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Stugo_(TV_Series)}}
i would like to change the article name to “StuGo” instead of “Stugo” but i can’t figure out how. [[User:Skronk monster13|Skronk monster13]] ([[User talk:Skronk monster13|talk]]) 05:13, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Skronk monster13|Skronk monster13]] the title doesn't really matter, as the reviewer will pick a suitable one if the draft is accepted. Also, there is already a [[Draft:StuGo]] with more content. Perhaps you'd like to work on that? <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 05:34, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::i didn’t realize there was already a draft for the show. thank you! [[User:Skronk monster13|Skronk monster13]] ([[User talk:Skronk monster13|talk]]) 16:42, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
== 14:11, 14 December 2024 review of submission by 2.138.115.80 ==
{{Lafc|username=2.138.115.80|ts=14:11, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Tim_Van_Rongen}}
I recently submitted a draft for a Wikipedia page and am seeking your help to ensure it meets the community's standards and guidelines for approval.
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I want to make sure the content is accurate, neutral, and well-cited, but I may need a clearer understanding of what specific adjustments are required to make it suitable for publication. Could you kindly review my submission and provide feedback on:
Whether the content sufficiently demonstrates notability through reliable, independent sources.
If there are areas where I might unintentionally include promotional language or lack neutrality.
Any additional suggestions for improvement in formatting or tone to better align with Wikipedia’s standards.
Your guidance would be greatly appreciated, and I am more than willing to make the necessary revisions.
Thank you for your time and assistance! [[Special:Contributions/2.138.115.80|2.138.115.80]] ([[User talk:2.138.115.80|talk]]) 14:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:Submitting for review is the way to get reviewed. But in my opinion, this promotional piece has been written [[WP:BACKWARDS|BACKWARDS]], as usually happens when a new editor attempts to create an article without having spent time learning how Wikipedia works.
:Wikipedia is not interested in what Van Rongen says or wants to say, or what his employers or associates say. It is (almost) only interested in what people wholly unconnected with him have chosen to publish about him, in reliable places.
:* First, find severaal sources which meet all three of the criteria in [[WP:42]].
:*Then, assuming you can find at least three such, forget everything you know about van Rongen, and write a summary of what those sources say.
:By the way, please remember to log in: I assume that you are @[[User:Voice007.|Voice007.]]? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 15:06, 14 December 2024 review of submission by HKLionel ==
{{Lafc|username=HKLionel|ts=15:06, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Victoria_Shanghai_Academy}}
A previous draft by a now inactive user [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=106521384 was deleted]. Is there a way I can view and use the contents of that draft for my current draft without requesting undeletion, which is impossible since the draft already exists (after I created it)? Thanks. [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ([[User talk:HKLionel|talk]]) 15:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]]: I was going to say that I can restore the deleted draft for you, but I've just looked at it and there is so little content in it (two short paragraphs of pretty pointless blurb, if I'm honest) and no sources, so it's not really worth it. I'd say proceed with your draft, it's already much more advanced in every respect. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:12, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::Noted with thanks! [[User:HKLionel|HKLionel]] ([[User talk:HKLionel|talk]]) 15:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 15:54, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Trishanthreddy ==
{{Lafc|username=Trishanthreddy|ts=15:54, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Pudami_Neighborhood_School,_Yacharam}}
Why my page is getting declined, please help me and. Tell how to improve this, I am an 14 years child, and this is my first attempt please please and I am from India, explain me clearly how to do this and what changes and where I have to do the changes. Please [[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]] ([[User talk:Trishanthreddy|talk]]) 15:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:N|notability]], such as [[WP:ORG|a notable organization]]. Your draft is completely unsourced. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it is recommended that you first gain experience by editing existing articles, as well as use the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]]. I'd also suggest that you read [[WP:YOUNG|this page with a parent or guardian or custodian]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]]: every one of the decline notices (remember, the ones you deleted?) gives details of the decline reasons; I also added comment to point to the notability guideline you needed to comply with (but you deleted that, as well). So once more: your draft is completely unreferenced, and therefore presents no evidence that the subject is notable. And given that the vast majority of schools are in fact ''not'' notable, it is virtually a given that this subject can not be included in the encyclopaedia. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
You have tell what i need to do, but it was not done, why why are doing like that, please explain simply me what I have to do and I am an indian [[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]] ([[User talk:Trishanthreddy|talk]]) 17:28, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:Please don't start a new thread with every post, just add to this existing section. What we are saying is there is nothing you can do. You keep emphasizing you're Indian for some reason- whether you're Indian or Russian or South African is not relevant. Please reread my earlier post and follow the advice. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:42, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 18:07, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Felixjordanbind ==
{{Lafc|username=Felixjordanbind|ts=18:07, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Nadia Darwazeh}}
Why was this declined?
[[User:Felixjordanbind|Felixjordanbind]] ([[User talk:Felixjordanbind|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Felixjordanbind}} Almost all of your sources are merely listings or content-free profiles, none of which would be a viable source ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). https://www.clydeco.com/en/people/d/nadia-darwazeh?section=profile is written by her employer ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]) and https://www.breakingthrough.de/portraet-nadia-darwazeh is an interview ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). '''This draft falls under the auspices of [[WP:ARBPIA4#ARBPIA General Sanctions|the general sanctions]] in the [[WP:CT/A-I|Arab-Israeli conflict contentious topic]], and you have not met the 500 edit+30-day threshold.''' —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 19:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 19:34, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Kamalı Zeybek ==
{{Lafc|username=Kamalı Zeybek|ts=19:34, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Kamalı_Zeybek}}
Please Submit Ok [[User:Kamalı Zeybek|Kamalı Zeybek]] ([[User talk:Kamalı Zeybek|talk]]) 19:34, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Kamalı Zeybek}} We do not accept [[WP:BLP|unsourced]], [[WP:A3|content-free]] "articles". —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 19:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 20:06, 14 December 2024 review of submission by WitchYouAllShallLove ==
{{Lafc|username=WitchYouAllShallLove|ts=20:06, 14 December 2024|draft=User:WitchYouAllShallLove/sandbox}}
I have re wroten this article and put refrences i need someone to EXACLY tell me whats wrong with it NOW. im super confused
[[User:WitchYouAllShallLove|WitchYouAllShallLove]] ([[User talk:WitchYouAllShallLove|talk]]) 20:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|WitchYouAllShallLove}}, your unreferenced draft violates the [[WP:NPOV|Neutral point of view]] because it pushes a pro-witchcraft point of view. It fails [[WP:V|Verifiability]] and violates the [[WP:OR|No original research]] policy. It bears no resemblance to an acceptable Wikipedia article. It has been rejected and will not be considered further. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 20:14, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:Please read [[WP:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== Samsung A04 ==
Hello, please, please accept it, I won't do it again. Why are you doing this? I swear, don't do this. Accept it, I won't do it again. [[User:Kamalı Zeybek|Kamalı Zeybek]] ([[User talk:Kamalı Zeybek|talk]]) 20:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{reply|Kamalı Zeybek}} Your repeated pleas to accept a draft that is not ready for main space is disruptive. You have been advised what needs to be done on {{u|Hammersoft}}’s talk page to fix the draft so it can be accepted. Until that happens, nothing will be done. [[User:Cyberdog958|<span style="color:navy;">''cyberdog''</span><span style="color:orange;">'''958'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cyberdog958|<span style="color:teal;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 20:27, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 20:35, 14 December 2024 review of submission by StarDate108 ==
{{Lafc|username=StarDate108|ts=20:35, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:Sekiyama_Tunnel}}
Hi, my submission was declined because it was improperly sourced. The thing is that it is a translation from these Japanese articles:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%96%A2%E5%B1%B1%E3%83%88%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AB
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%96%A2%E5%B1%B1%E5%B3%A0
I selected sources from them that seemed relevant. Unfortunately I don't have access to any other sources than these. Is it possible to get the article approved anyway? I understand that in general it is not an excuse that the sources on the original pages are subpar, but in this case I belive that they still are satisfactory. [[User:StarDate108|StarDate108]] ([[User talk:StarDate108|talk]]) 20:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:StarDate108|StarDate108]] Put simply, no. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 20:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:StarDate108|StarDate108]] When you translate articles, or parts thereof, please use {{Tl|TRanslated page}}. I have done this for you here on the talk page.
::Now you have had time to digest the simple message ^^^^, please seek further references for the draft 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 21:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 22:06, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Swmpz ==
{{Lafc|username=Swmpz|ts=22:06, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:The_Bazaar_(video_game)}}
The draft got rejected for notoriety, could I get some clarification on what specific grounds, and what my next steps would be? [[User:Swmpz|Swmpz]] ([[User talk:Swmpz|talk]]) 22:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:It's "notability", not "notoriety"(which has a more negative connotation). As told by reviewers, you have not shown that your game is notable. Rejection typically is the end of the line for a draft, but if you can fundamentally change the draft to address the concerns of reviewers, you must first appeal to the last reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:32, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== 22:33, 14 December 2024 review of submission by Jag612red ==
{{Lafc|username=Jag612red|ts=22:33, 14 December 2024|draft=Draft:First Horizon Coliseum (Greensboro Coliseum)}}
I want someone to review my article. [[User:Jag612red|Jag612red]] ([[User talk:Jag612red|talk]]) 22:33, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Jag612red}}, you have to wait for a review just like everyone else. Why do you think that a separate article is needed when we already have [[Greensboro Complex]]? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 22:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
::I just decided to make something that stays on the topic of the coliseum [[User:Jag612red|Jag612red]] ([[User talk:Jag612red|talk]]) 22:43, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
= December 15 =
== 03:16, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Nehasrm2518 ==
{{Lafc|username=Nehasrm2518|ts=03:16, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Rohit_Jaisoriya}}
please share advice [[User:Nehasrm2518|Nehasrm2518]] ([[User talk:Nehasrm2518|talk]]) 03:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Nehasrm2518|Nehasrm2518]]: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 04:13, 15 December 2024 review of submission by WistahHoney508 ==
{{Lafc|username=WistahHoney508|ts=04:13, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Caitlin McCarthy}}
Question about needed edits for approval
Hello,
:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
My draft article for Caitlin McCarthy was recently rejected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Caitlin_McCarthy. Is there anything that I can add to help the approval process? The subject has many articles about her, as listed on her website www.caitlinmccarthy.com/press.
== 15:54, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 89.101.68.143 ==
Thank you so much! [[User:WistahHoney508|WistahHoney508]] ([[User talk:WistahHoney508|talk]]) 04:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=89.101.68.143|ts=15:54, 1 September 2025|draft=User:Michael_miron123/sandbox}}
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:WistahHoney508|WistahHoney508]]: your draft was declined (not rejected) because in the reviewer's assessment the sources cited do not establish notability. I won't go through all 31 (!) of them, but a quick scan finds a few user-generated sources (not considered reliable), and also a few where the link is merely pointing to a website home page, suggesting that the linked URL may not necessarily support information in this draft. If, as you say, this person's own website contains useful media coverage, you can cite them here; just make sure to cite the actual media, not her website. Also, note that such coverage must be in-depth, and ''about'' her, not written ''by'' her or with her commenting on things (such as interviews).
:I must also point out that this draft is poorly referenced, with most paragraphs without a single citation. This is unacceptable in articles on living people, which have particularly strict referencing requirements. You must make sure that every material statement, and especially anything potentially contentious, any direct quotations, as well as all private personal and family details, are clearly supported by inline citations to reliable published sources (that actually verify them, per my earlier point), or else removed.
:In fact, there is so much unreferenced content, eg. in the entire 'Early Life' section, that I need to ask where does all this information come from – do you have some sort of real-life relationship with this person? If so, that must be disclosed. I will post advice on this on your talk page. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{u|WistahHoney508}} I fixed your post so the header links to your draft, you had what I think you thought was a header where the title of your draft should be. The whole url is not needed when linking to another Wikipedia page. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thank you! I'm new to this and learning. Appreciate your help! [[User:WistahHoney508|WistahHoney508]] ([[User talk:WistahHoney508|talk]]) 13:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::I found info about early life from interviews and her mother's obituary. I don't have a real-life relationship with Caitlin McCarthy. I'm new to Wiki and learning, so I appreciate any and all advice on how to make this acceptable. I can go back and link to the actual articles with this information. Thank you! [[User:WistahHoney508|WistahHoney508]] ([[User talk:WistahHoney508|talk]]) 13:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 0716:2131, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by PineapplebunbunMguenego.usparis ==
{{Lafc|username=PineapplebunbunMguenego.usparis|ts=0716:2131, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:LUZ_(2025_film)Ström_Paris}}
WhatHello! sourcesI'd arelike missingto forknow thisif page?my Willdraft mediais coveragesokay helpand orcan bybe addingpublished an? externalOr IMDbif I still need to do some modifications link? ThankThanks a youlot. [[User:PineapplebunbunMguenego.usparis|PineapplebunbunMguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:PineapplebunbunMguenego.usparis|talk]]) 0716:2131, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025 (UTC)
:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Pineapplebunbun|Pineapplebunbun]]: we need to see sources that satisfy either the general [[WP:GNG]] or the special [[WP:NFILM]] guideline for notability. Pre-release publicity is not enough, as it's just part of the producer's marketing ramp-up, and we will not be used as a channel for that. In practice, unreleased films are hardly ever notable, so you probably need to wait a couple of months until this has been released and hopefully received some reviews. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Understood. Thank you for your reply. It's helpful. [[User:Pineapplebunbun|Pineapplebunbun]] ([[User talk:Pineapplebunbun|talk]]) 07:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 0718:4322, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by TrishanthreddyChangingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=TrishanthreddyChangingwormhole|ts=0718:4322, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:Pudami_Neighborhood_School,YacharamV-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
How can I upload my article, I changed it 50 times but no use, and I am new joined member, please help me and accept my submission please please, I am unable to understand what you wrote. [[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]] ([[User talk:Trishanthreddy|talk]]) 07:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
:@[[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]]: you cannot; it has been rejected, both versions, and that's the end of the road. As I said on your talk page, you need to find some other topic to write about, as we cannot keep reviewing this over and over again. Please drop this now. Thank you. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Trishanthreddy|Trishanthreddy]]: can you please confirm that you have read what I've written on your talk page at [[User_talk:Trishanthreddy#Advice]]? I'm asking because your behaviour suggests otherwise. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
== 08:33, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Join Africa ==
{{Lafc|username=Join Africa|ts=08:33, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Elmalawx_Paul}}
Pls sir I need your assistance to guide me on how to be a better editor,teach me how to edit it in a proper way,I want to learn,I will be the happiest man on earth if I know how to edit with Wikipedia [[User:Join Africa|Join Africa]] ([[User talk:Join Africa|talk]]) 08:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
:You don't say what specific help you are seeking. I can say that you have not shown with significant coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] how this person meets the [[WP:BAND|special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician]] or a [[WP:NPRODUCER|notable creative professional]] or more broadly [[WP:BIO|a notable person]].
:Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia. You may wish to first gain experience by editing existing articles in areas that interest you, as well as use the [[WP:ADVENTURE|new user tutorial]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 09:16, 15 December 2024 review of submission by User DEV 18 ==
*I fixed your header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=User DEV 18|ts=09:16, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Rajendra Bhaiya Prajapati}}
My this page got rejected [[User:User DEV 18|User DEV 18]] ([[User talk:User DEV 18|talk]]) 09:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:You need the "Draft:" portion when linking to your draft, I fixed this for you. Your draft was declined, not rejected, rejected would mean that you could not submit it again. Declined means you can. You have resubmitted it, and the reviewer will leave you feedback. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 0919:4111, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by 2409:40F0:DF:CAFA:8000:0:0:0Don Wanyama Off ==
{{Lafc|username=2409:40F0:DF:CAFA:8000:0:0:0Don Wanyama Off|ts=0919:4111, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:Pudami_Neighborhood_School_YacharamList_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
My school has given me project to write a article on wikipedia about Our school, if I fail this test they don't give me good grades please accept this page or I'm gonna fail. [[Special:Contributions/2409:40F0:DF:CAFA:8000:0:0:0|2409:40F0:DF:CAFA:8000:0:0:0]] ([[User talk:2409:40F0:DF:CAFA:8000:0:0:0|talk]]) 09:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:We aren't responsible for assignments you have been given. Our only interest is in if our criteria is being met. I'm sorry your teacher has put you in a difficult position, but they have given you a poor assignment. Your teacher should review the [[WP:WEP|Wikipedia Education Program materials]] to learn how to design lessons that do not put their students in a difficult position. Please show your teacher this message. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Your account has already been blocked. Blocks apply to you as a person, not your account, and you should [[WP:APPEAL|appeal it]] instead of editing while [[WP:LOUTSOCK|logged out]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 10:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::...as indeed I already told them.
::I was trying to AGF by issuing only a short block to calm things down, but they seem determined to prove me wrong, more's the pity. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 11:09, 15 December 2024 review of submission by 93.161.72.99 ==
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=93.161.72.99|ts=11:09, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:William_Owen_(composer)}}
Had:* William Owen been composer to the hymn[[WP:QUACK]] "Lo,- heSPI comes with clouds descending"?filed [[SpecialUser:Contributions/93.161.72.99KylieTastic|93.161.72.99KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:93.161.72.99KylieTastic|talk]]) 1119:0950, 151 DecemberSeptember 20242025 (UTC)
= September 2 =
:Please see the messages left by reviewers, as well as the policies linked to therein. You need to format your references so they appear in line next to the text they support. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 1301:3300, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by FckthewarAsf132 ==
{{Lafc|username=FckthewarAsf132|ts=1301:3300, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:The_Alliance_WarRao Mulpuri}}
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I don't know why it got rejected. [[User:Fckthewar|Fckthewar]] ([[User talk:Fckthewar|talk]]) 13:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Fckthewar|Fckthewar]]: because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a social media platform for some fictional clan war fancruft. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 1402:3101, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by SteynchamElesha1188 ==
{{Lafc|username=SteynchamElesha1188|ts=1402:3101, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft= Draft:WePlanetCyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I feel really helpless about this : an article being resubmitted after taking into account remarks from a previous reviewer has been declined with arguments that are at least difficult to make sense of, at worst biased or unfair:
-"does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article" : this is woefully unspecific,and plainly wrong for what concens this article
-the article would not be neutral : the secondary sources being quoted in the first version where mostly positive, but this was not the ressult of cherry-picking, these are the only ones I found. I have added new references that provide a contrarian viepoint, but they are about ecomodernism in general rather than about WePlanet in particular
-"should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources" : this is the most grossly unfair comment : there are 22 references in this draft, mostly from very well-known media such as the Guardian
"avoid peacock terms that promote the subject." WHERE are there such terms???
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
When I resubmit, can I have the assurance that the article would be reviewed by another reviewer?? [[User:Steyncham|Steyncham]] ([[User talk:Steyncham|talk]]) 14:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]].
:{{HD/WINI}}
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:59, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 04:04, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Goldface2009 ==
:Courtesy link: [[Draft:WePlanet]]. I'll correct your link in a moment.
{{Lafc|username=Goldface2009|ts=04:04, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Goldface2009/sandbox}}
:@[[User:Steyncham|Steyncham]] You have, however, created a magazine article, not a Wikipedia article. It contains glowing prose drawing conclusions. Please see [[WP:NOR]]. The article appears to me to be a brochure, an advertisement. And that means whole sentences of peacockery need to be eliminated. We ''require'' flat, neutral, dull-but-worthy prose, not advertorial.
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:It's a best practice not to review a draft a second time by the same reviewer, but there are exceptions to this. Have you raised your concerns with {{U|Tavantius}} directly? That ''should'' be your first action when not understanding a review. How can anyone else guess what was in their mind? 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 14:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::I did raise all these issues with User:tavantius first thing, but did not get a reply [[User:Steyncham|Steyncham]] ([[User talk:Steyncham|talk]]) 14:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for your reply, but again WHERE do you see "whole sentences of peacockery"?? Such a demeaning comment would require being more specific [[User:Steyncham|Steyncham]] ([[User talk:Steyncham|talk]]) 15:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm not the reviewer but "Organizations affiliated with WePlanet claim, according to their websites, to differ from the more technocentrist tendencies of ecomodernism and to be human-centered and grassroots-oriented, with a strong emphasis on fulfilling the needs of developing countries and preserving practices rooted in traditional cultures, in a sustainable and consensual way. "
:::Im not the most experienced editor on wikipedia but this counts as peacockery or at least too promotional [[User:Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac]] ([[User talk:Thehistorianisaac|talk]]) 15:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:I mean he ain't wrong on the "formal tone" thing
:sounds like some promotional ad [[User:Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac]] ([[User talk:Thehistorianisaac|talk]]) 15:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{yo|Steyncham}} Note, first of all, that the reviewer comment was "not written in a formal tone", which is different from "written like an advertisement". The draft is not written like an advert. There are promotional bits, however; for instance "Advocating the benefits of technical progress for the environment, WePlanet is spearheading a trend that is gaining popularity among a new generation of green activists in northern Europe" – according to whom is WePlanet spearheading this trend, and according to whom is that a trend that is becoming more popular? The source used to support the claim is [https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/09/a-long-overdue-moment-the-uk-greens-pushing-for-the-nuclear-option this ''Guardian'' article], but when there is an evaluative comment or claim in a Wikipedia article, it is not enough to provide a citation marker – the claim has to be '''attributed''' as well. Wikipedia can't make evaluative claims in its own voice.
:It is also important to rely as little as possible on primary sources. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organisation says about itself, but in what other, independent and reliable sources have said about the org. Organisations often produce press releases which are (by definition) primary sources, and which are often reprinted in several places. [https://observer.ug/index.php/news/headlines/80531-weplanet-in-campaign-to-reduce-charcoal-use-in-africa This source] and [https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2024-02-13-environmental-lobby-launches-campaign-to-reduce-use-of-charcoal-in-homes this source] are two copies of the same press release. Only one instance could be used as a source, and only for limited purposes – see [[WP:PRIMARY]] for information about what primary sources can be used for. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 17:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 14:44, 15 December 2024 review of submission by EmsterUze ==
{{Lafc|username=EmsterUze|ts=14:44, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Wikipedia_(article)}}
I cannot find any sources to the article [[User:EmsterUze|EmsterUze]] ([[User talk:EmsterUze|talk]]) 14:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
:It's not about the sources, the article was rejected because it seems you are just testing how to create article, of which your sandbox is available for that. Also, Article about [[Wikipedia]] exist already. [[User:Tesleemah|Tesleemah]] ([[User talk:Tesleemah|talk]]) 14:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 14:57, 15 December 2024 review of submission by EmsterUze ==
{{Lafc|username=EmsterUze|ts=14:57, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:UNIS_Technology}}
What are credible sources for UNIS Technology? [[User:EmsterUze|EmsterUze]] ([[User talk:EmsterUze|talk]]) 14:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== Requesting Review for Draft:Dhiman (Caste) ==
:Just add some sources at least, your draft has no sources at all [[User:Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac]] ([[User talk:Thehistorianisaac|talk]]) 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] for more information as to what is considered a reliable source. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello! I have created and submitted a draft article titled '''[[Draft:Dhiman (Caste)]]'''. I have done my best to follow Wikipedia's guidelines regarding notability, neutrality, and sourcing.
== 15:06, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Thehistorianisaac ==
{{Lafc|username=Thehistorianisaac|ts=15:06, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:7th_Marine_Brigade}}
What will happen to my draft if i don't edit it in a while? [[User:Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac]] ([[User talk:Thehistorianisaac|talk]]) 15:06, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if an editor could take a look and provide feedback or review it for publication. Thank you for your time and help!
:After 6 months, it will be deleted however you can retrieve it [[User:Tesleemah|Tesleemah]] ([[User talk:Tesleemah|talk]]) 15:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::thank you [[User:Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac]] ([[User talk:Thehistorianisaac|talk]]) 16:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]] ([[User talk:Indiauser1971|talk]]) 08:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 15:30, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Pbioilp ==
{{Lafc|username=Pbioilp|ts=15:30, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Wang Ke (Singer)}}
i didnt understand why my draft was declined, i would love to understand why so i can fix it
[[Draft:Wang Ke (Singer)]] [[User:Pbioilp|Pbioilp]] ([[User talk:Pbioilp|talk]]) 15:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:You have submitted it for review and it is pending. Please be aware of the rules when editing about social groups in India- I will post them to your user talk page- probably you shouldn't have created this draft at all- but if it is accepted, you cannot edit it again until your account is extended-confirmed(30 days old with 500 edits) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Pbioilp|Pbioilp]]: this draft was declined for lack of evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]]. The sources are insufficient for establishing general notability per [[WP:GNG]], and there is nothing in the draft to suggest the subject would satisfy [[WP:MUSICBIO]] either. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]].
:Separately from the point 331dot made about Indian social groups, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 1810:0712, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by Suryapadma1103.182.14.46 ==
{{Lafc|username=Suryapadma1103.182.14.46|ts=1810:0712, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:Bolloju_BabaEhtasham_Malik}}
Can you guide me on which words are promotional [[Special:Contributions/103.182.14.46|103.182.14.46]] ([[User talk:103.182.14.46|talk]]) 10:12, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
please help writing this page
this is the original telugu wiki page with sufficient links
https://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%AC%E0%B1%8A%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%8B%E0%B0%9C%E0%B1%81_%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%AC%E0%B0%BE
== 10:16, 2 September 2025 review of submission by 102.22.207.86 ==
can somebody with more editing skills do the needful kindly [[User:Suryapadma1|Suryapadma1]] ([[User talk:Suryapadma1|talk]]) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=102.22.207.86|ts=10:16, 2 September 2025|draft=Unite180}}
Article was declined. Any assistance possible with getting it approved and guidance on writing it better or removing references that seem problematic. [[Special:Contributions/102.22.207.86|102.22.207.86]] ([[User talk:102.22.207.86|talk]]) 10:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 10:55, 2 September 2025 review of submission by NeutralMMMUser ==
:That a topic is acceptable on another Wikipedia does not necessarily mean it is acceptable on this one. Please see the message left by the reviewer. Note that the phrase "do the needful" is often considered rude outside of India. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=NeutralMMMUser|ts=10:55, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Objective_Platform}}
I tried to adjust this article multiples times to the feedback I got but apparently it's still not good enough – can someone help or tell me what exactly is not working? I just quoted external sources and took out everything that I think sounds like "advertisement". [[User:NeutralMMMUser|NeutralMMMUser]] ([[User talk:NeutralMMMUser|talk]]) 10:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:You are making a common, but fundamental, mistake in that you are telling us what you want the world to know about your company. That is the wrong approach. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. Interviews, press releases, brief mentions, or the reporting of routine business activities does not establish notability. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 18:29, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Theguyfromermesinde ==
{{Lafc|username=Theguyfromermesinde|ts=18:29, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:A26_motorway_(Portugal)}}
Is because My draft kept on being rejected [[User:Theguyfromermesinde|Theguyfromermesinde]] ([[User talk:Theguyfromermesinde|talk]]) 18:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
== 11:59, 2 September 2025 review of submission by 103.182.14.46 ==
:The draft is completely unsourced. You failed to add sources so it was rejected. If you have sources, please see [[WP:REFB|Referencing for beginners]] to learn how to add them. You can then ask the reviewer to reconsider. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=103.182.14.46|ts=11:59, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Ehtasham_Malik}}
Can tell why reject the article [[Special:Contributions/103.182.14.46|103.182.14.46]] ([[User talk:103.182.14.46|talk]]) 11:59, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:The subject is not [[WP:GNG|notable]] press releases are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 12:10, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 2012:1824, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by 54rt678Talha Sti ==
{{Lafc|username=54rt678Talha Sti|ts=2012:1824, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=DraftUser:William_TrumpTalha_Sti/sandbox}}
IWhy thinkmy that William Trumparticle is notablenot becausepublishing hewhat is a big facewrong in fighting disability stigma and he says a lot about the personality of Donald Trumpit [[User:54rt678Talha Sti|54rt678Sti]] ([[User talk:54rt678Talha Sti|talk]]) 2012:1824, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 (UTC)
:Your draft lacked the coding needed to submit it- this is provided if you use the [[WP:WIZARD|Article Wizard]] to create and submit a draft.
:@[[User:54rt678|54rt678]]: the subject is notable, if multiple (3+) reliable and independent secondary sources have provided significant coverage of him. Being a "big face" (whatever that means) etc. doesn't come into it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 20:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:However, your draft was throughly promotional and has been deleted. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. Interviews, press releases, brief mentions, or the reporting of routine business activities does not establish notability.
::multiple (3+) reliable and independent secondary sources have provided significant coverage of him [[User:54rt678|54rt678]] ([[User talk:54rt678|talk]]) 21:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:If you work for this company/website, you are required by the Terms of Use to disclose that, see [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 2113:4245, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by 156.34.173.206Kay3233 ==
{{Lafc|username=156.34.173.206Kay3233|ts=2113:4245, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=Draft:WikiswearAPAC_Tower}}
Hello, I noticed the article on APAC Tower was rejected for notability. I would like guidance on whether the coverage I have from independent sources is sufficient, or what additional sources would be needed.
Why did it get rejected?
[[Special:Contributions/156.34.173.206|156.34.173.206]] ([[User talk:156.34.173.206|talk]]) 21:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
I have few questions.
:well it didn't before but now it does [[User:54rt678|54rt678]] ([[User talk:54rt678|talk]]) 21:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
1. Do the awards (Fitwel 3-Star 2025, Thailand Property Award) count as notable recognition for the building?
::but if you're talking about your article I think that it is not notable [[User:54rt678|54rt678]] ([[User talk:54rt678|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
2. Do independent news reports from Bangkok Biz News, RE Talk Asia, and AustCham Thailand establish enough secondary coverage?
:::What does that mean? [[User:Wikiwhatwhatbob|Wikiwhatwhatbob]] ([[User talk:Wikiwhatwhatbob|talk]]) 23:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
3. Would mentioning prominent multinational tenants (Asia Pulp & Paper, Mazda Sales, TOA Electronics) help demonstrate significance?
Thank you, [[User:Kay3233|Kay3233]] ([[User talk:Kay3233|talk]]) 13:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 23:00, 15 December 2024 review of submission by Wikiwhatwhatbob ==
{{Lafc|username=Wikiwhatwhatbob|ts=23:00, 15 December 2024|draft=Draft:Wikiswear}}
Why was it rejected and now I can’t resubmit it:( [[User:Wikiwhatwhatbob|Wikiwhatwhatbob]] ([[User talk:Wikiwhatwhatbob|talk]]) 23:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:ItAwards wasonly rejectedcontribute becauseto "Thisnotability topicif isthe notaward sufficientlyitself notablemerits foran inclusion in Wikipedia.". It just seems to be your unsourced musingsarticle, notlike a[[Nobel summaryPeace ofPrize]] what independentor [[WP:RS|reliableAcademy sourcesAward]] say about the topic. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 2315:0537, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 (UTC)
== 2314:5013, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025 review of submission by 2001:D08:D8:D574:F97C:2B25:9F2D:FF97TurnipShadow ==
{{Lafc|username=2001:D08:D8:D574:F97C:2B25:9F2D:FF97TurnipShadow|ts=2314:5013, 152 DecemberSeptember 20242025|draft=DraftUser:Operation_Rambo_IITurnipShadow/sandbox}}
I've drafted something but cant see how I move it to be considered for publish [[User:TurnipShadow|TurnipShadow]] ([[User talk:TurnipShadow|talk]]) 14:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Why,can't you see the source I shared and the source in Google Books is not there and I can only get the source on google .if you don't believe you can check on wikipedia (SPECIAL OPERATIONS TEAM) and in the operation.you can see the operation [[Special:Contributions/2001:D08:D8:D574:F97C:2B25:9F2D:FF97|2001:D08:D8:D574:F97C:2B25:9F2D:FF97]] ([[User talk:2001:D08:D8:D574:F97C:2B25:9F2D:FF97|talk]]) 23:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:TurnipShadow|TurnipShadow]]: I've added the submission template, it has a blue 'submit' button with which you can send it for review when you're ready. I've also moved it into the draft name space, at [[Draft:Jools’ Law]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Unfortunately I don't think any of us understood your question. [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] <small> ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) </small> 05:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you very much [[User:TurnipShadow|TurnipShadow]] ([[User talk:TurnipShadow|talk]]) 14:43, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 15:55:24, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Psymba ==
= December 16 =
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== 04:01, 16 December 2024 review of submission by Allewikiwriter ==
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I would appreciate some assitance with my article submission. It keeps getting rejected even though I edit the content, added multiple sources of references and still cannot be submitted.
[[User:Allewikiwriter|Allewikiwriter]] ([[User talk:Allewikiwriter|talk]]) 04:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
This entry was moved to draft space by OwenX who acknowledged its improvement after several weeks of edits and added citations, writing "I see you've made significant improvements to the draft, both in content and in sourcing" [[User talk: OwenX#Review for Dr. Mike Abrams (psychologist)]]. I invite anyone to suggest or make improvements or who may feel it is ready to return as an entry where it previously was for several years. [[User:Psymba|Psymba]] ([[User talk:Psymba|talk]]) 15:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Allewikiwriter|Allewikiwriter]], friendly notice that the word "rejected" has a special meaning in this area. The word in articles for creation usually defines drafts that '''cannot be resubmitted'''. You '''can''' still submit the article, as your draft was declined, not rejected.
:For the draft itself, it seems that you have drastically changed the draft.
:*Personally, I think the bold texts for the chairman and the brands (and many more) are [[MOS:NOBOLD|not really appropriate]].
:*You removed the external link (in the external link section) to the official website, was there any reason for this?
:*"The brand has since expanded its presence in Malaysia and to the broader Southeast Asia region." This sentence is either unsourced or the source is unclear as it is separated from other texts.
:I may have missed some issues, but these are the stuff I have found.
:[[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] <small> ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) </small> 05:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
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