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Is this really needed, I just now noticed that it was added without much discussion here on this page. The diff of the addition is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam&diff=122988987&oldid=122972703 here]. I think if we want a header, perhaps a more detailed one as to what this page is about is in order, not just something that assumes that members here do not know what [[WP:BITE]] etc are. Any ideas? —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 20:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:The banner looks good faith and mostly harmless, and was added by someone who helps: I assume it is to try to contain comments by occasional visitors? I guess if I got it quoted at me I would be more motivated to remove it...--[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 20:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:: [[Mostly harmless]]. Very well said. And we all know what happens next. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 21:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC))
 
:::While I agree with BozMo, I think the language is a little strong for something that was never discussed. I suggest the following instead (changes are italicized): "As a courtesy, please ''consider informing'' other users and editors if they are mentioned in a posting, or if their actions are being discussed."
:::Whether or not another editor should be informed of a discussion here is a decision best left to the discretion of the poster. Many times, alerting an uncivil serial spammer of this page serves no useful purpose whatsoever, and doing so has never been strictly required.
:::In a similar vein, we have never been required to inform an editor they have been reported to [[WP:AIV]] or [[WP:RFCU]]. Since this page has essentially become the ''de facto'' spam noticeboard, it should be subject to the same standard. --&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User talk:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 21:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:::: I agree. Not sure if it's a good idea to invite every spam conversation here. He've had a few problems in the past with this talk page getting flooding by some very wordy individuals. There are also times when mentioning a discussion here would provoke a situation even more. It definitely shouldn't be standard policy, at least not without a consensus. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 02:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC))
 
:: I got all bold and such, and I retoned it. I think it sounds better. We should *not* be making it a psuedo-policy of the project to tell the worst of spammers that they've been 'reported.' That is silly. However, for those that may just not be aware of the guidelines and policies and don't understand conflict of interest, we should inform them. There's been lots of 'oops ok, I didn't know' saved by a little bit of courtesy. But make no mistake, the serial spammer needs to be sent to an administrator for blockage. [[User:Kevin Breitenstein|Kevin_b_er]] 06:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::: Not sure if changing <i>"As a courtesy"</i> to <i>"For good faith"</i> is an improvement. It sort of implies that failure to do so is a violation of [[WP:AGF]] which it is not. I agree with [[User:Eagle 101]] that the regular posters here do not need to be reminded of [[WP:BITE]], [[WP:AGF]], and [[WP:CIVILITY]]. I motion that the entire banner be removed. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 21:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC))
::::"Feel free" would be better. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 21:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Changed back to ''"As a courtesy..."'' for now. --&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User talk:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 14:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== ongoing porn linkspam ==
 
Way too much info to reproduce here, but it has been well documented on Meta on several occasions.
 
* [[m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/03#Porn_linkspam |one]], [[m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/04#More_porn_linkspam |two]], [[m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/04#www.amojoo.com |three]], [[m:Talk:Spam_blacklist#More_porn_linkspamming |four]] --[[User:Versageek|Versageek]] 05:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:This is really getting nasty, its up to 30+ domains... if one of you guys can work some magic with adsense ids or whatnot I'd be indebted to you. (Also note this is using multiple IPs, so a simple block is not going to work) —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 06:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
::*I looked up the ips of these domains, and the ranges seem to be 209.85.22.* abd 209.62.0.* a reverse dns on these ips reveals it is hosted at ev1servers.net. No idea how this info could be useful, eagle just asked me to put it up here. [[User:GeorgeMoney|GeorgeMoney]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMoney|talk]]) 06:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
::*There are no adsense IDs on the few sites I looked at. But it was pretty foul, I didn't stay on the sites very long. All the sites are registered with monkier privacy protection services, and they seem to use ns1.pammmy.com and ns2.pammy.com for nameservers. Beyond that, not much. I'd recommend just blacklisting everything on this google search: [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Enjoy+new+exclusive+pictures,+videos,+downloads,+news+and+links.%22 search record] [[User:Kevin Breitenstein|Kevin_b_er]] 06:25, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Very nice! I'm going to work on getting those onto [[User:Shadowbot]] :) Thanks! —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 06:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
Parsed out that google search:
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www.ayanaangel.org
www.anetabuena.org
www.justinejoli.org
www.nadianyce.org
www.masonmarconi.org
www.jennaheart.org
www.amberrayne.net
www.victoriaparis.org
www.sarahjames.org
www.janamiartusova.org
www.nikkyblond.org
www.lilimarlene.net
www.phoenixray.net
www.lizhoney.net
www.summerlynn.net
www.tarawild.net
www.aikotanaka.net
www.kittyyung.org
www.melissawolf.net
www.kellyerickson.net
www.sarahblue.org
www.karinschubert.net
www.nicoleparks.net
www.courtneyculkin.org
www.kristarabarrington.net
www.millydabbraccio.org
www.victoriapink.net
www.sadiejones.org
www.mandymichaels.org
www.klarasmetanova.net
www.loripleasure.net
www.aliceogura.net
www.linsiyee.net
www.kamiandrews.net
www.taylorlynn.org
www.bobbibliss.org
www.akihoyoshizawa.net
www.mandyashford.org
www.victoriasin.net
www.chrissytaylor.org
www.michelleraven.net
www.ayamisakurai.net
www.angelastone.org
www.michellelay.org
www.zsanettegerhazi.org
www.sakuraakane.com
www.kimberlyfranklin.org
www.xxxena.org
www.kirstenprice.org
www.tianalynn.org
www.kimberleyrogers.net
www.alexaweix.net
www.veronicabrazil.org
www.nikkiblonde.org
www.hyapatialee.org
www.lenajuliette.net
www.sarahjanehamilton.net
www.aliciaalighatti.org
www.desirae.org
www.yasminevega.net
www.lanitodd.org
www.haleypaige.org
www.nicoleoring.org
www.kinakai.org
www.kellyjean.net
www.kaylapaige.org
www.veronicacarso.org
www.yuisarina.net
www.mistyknights.org
www.momomizutani.com
www.saorikamiya.net
www.rayveness.org
www.cristinabella.org
www.mandymay.org
www.victoriasweet.org
www.ranmonbu.org
www.aubrielemon.net
www.belicia.org
www.nikiblond.org
www.orsolya.org
www.terabond.org
www.roxetta.org
www.kyokoayana.net
www.monicasweet.org
www.savannahstern.org
www.anitaqueen.net
www.wendydivine.net
www.leademae.net
www.rosacaracciolo.net
www.jessicacanizales.org
www.sarahmercury.net
www.sunnycruz.org
www.cherrypoppens.org
www.feliciafox.net
www.nikkihot.net
www.autumnbliss.org
www.aurorajolie.org
www.cherryjul.org
www.oliviawinters.net
www.kellyfire.net
www.nancylane.net
www.maihoshino.com
www.carolgoldnerova.net
www.veronicarayne.org
www.shannonsunderlin.net
www.nicolevoss.org
www.amandaemino.net
www.rileyshy.org
www.rickiwhite.net
www.sugarchanelle.org
www.audreybitoni.org
www.carmelmoore.org
www.carmenkinsley.org
www.krystaljordan.net
www.tiffanyprice.org
www.kylierichards.net
www.jennypoussin.org
www.rebeccalinares.org
www.paulinajames.org
www.boroka.org
www.kiadrayton.org
www.demidelia.org
www.veroniquevega.net
www.reganreese.net
www.janafoxy.org
www.angiesavage.org
www.barbiecummings.org
www.tyramoore.org
www.tiffanyholiday.net
www.emilianna.org
www.racqueldevonshire.net
www.hannahhilton.org
www.mayahills.org
www.ivakleinova.net
www.tanyahardin.net
www.lanawoods.net
www.abbeybrooks.org
www.tjpowers.org
www.sophialucci.org
www.kimmykahn.net
www.karinvonkroft.net
www.ingridswede.net
www.sydneecapri.net
www.tianarose.net
www.marimisato.net
www.sammirhodes.net
www.sashamonet.net
www.joanneguest.net
www.sophiemoone.org
www.chantarose.net
www.krystaldeboor.net
www.rikoakina.net
www.alliesin.net
www.hollyhollywood.org
www.alexandranice.org
www.petramorgan.net
www.tiffanymillion.net
www.megumiosawa.net
www.izumihasegawa.net
www.brittanylove.org
www.daniellederek.org
www.jadefeng.net
www.tobipacific.net
www.priyarai.org
www.moniquefuentes.org
www.harleydavis.net
www.jessisummers.org
www.pattyplenty.net
www.yuikawai.com
www.laurenphoenix.net
www.lexilove.net
www.hikarukoto.net
www.bunnyluv.net
www.terajoy.net
www.reiitoh.net
www.paulaprice.net
www.alexarae.net
www.naooikawa.net
</pre>
[[User:GeorgeMoney|GeorgeMoney]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMoney|talk]]) 07:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
*Can you do me a favour? Can you do a similar back search on the links on my [[User:Tabercil\Porn Linkspam]] page? That was an earlier set of links which that person added. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] 11:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:* The there was one link in Tabercil's list with Overture (yahoo) text ads using ID 1845416180. [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22We%27ve+got+all+new+and+exclusive+nude+pictures%2C+videos%2C+downloads+and+more.%22 next batch search list]. I assume you've got a nifty method to grab the URLs as before, GeorgeMoney? --[[User:Kevin Breitenstein|Kevin_b_er]] 21:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::* I can publish the script if you want. The links are:
<pre>
www.nicolesheridan.org
www.veronicavanoza.org
www.suediamond.net
www.masonstorm.org
www.lauriewallace.org
www.marieluv.net
www.alishaklass.net
www.nikkichao.net
www.laceyduvalle.org
www.ashleylong.org
www.katiegold.net
www.nikkifairchild.org
www.nadiastyles.org
www.sondrahall.org
www.zuzanadrabinova.org
www.ninaferrari.org
www.adrianamalkova.org
www.ryanconner.org
www.sativarose.org
www.tylerfox.org
www.adinajewel.net
www.daytonrains.net
www.alexarden.org
www.jessicadarlin.org
www.monicamayhem.org
www.mikatan.org
www.candymanson.org
www.jessicafiorentino.org
www.sabrinemaui.org
www.laylajade.org
www.sindeecoxx.net
www.daisymarie.net
www.adrianasage.org
www.sophiesweet.org
www.michellethorne.org
www.britneyskye.org
www.nikiblonde.org
www.silviethomas.org
www.szilvialauren.org
www.bridgettekerkove.net
www.jeweldenyle.org
www.sonjaadams.org
www.nauticathorn.org
www.felixvicious.org
www.mandyfisher.net
www.stacysilver.org
www.cassiecourtland.org
www.randiwright.org
www.bettieballhaus.net
www.ashtontaylor.org
www.avenalee.org
www.shylastylez.net
www.anitablond.org
www.karmarosenberg.org
www.amberrain.net
www.daniwoodward.org
www.ashleyrobbins.org
www.caileytaylor.net
www.clarahamilton.net
www.amyreid.org
www.britneyluv.net
www.britneyfoster.net
www.nikitablonde.org
www.crystalray.net
www.aliciarhodes.org
www.avyleeroth.org
www.bambibliss.net
www.sharonwild.org
www.alyssalovelace.net
www.tjhart.net
www.sophieparis.org
www.alauraeden.net
www.katerinahovorkova.net
www.daniellarush.net
www.kitanajade.org
www.angelcassidy.org
www.marisadiaz.net
www.janedarling.org
www.lilythai.org
www.dillanlauren.org
www.roxycarter.org
www.sinnamonlove.org
www.anetasmrhova.org
www.roxannehall.org
www.autumnaustin.org
www.evelawrence.net
www.bridgetbanks.net
www.tanyajames.org
</pre>
::* [[User:GeorgeMoney|GeorgeMoney]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMoney|talk]]) 22:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
Thanks for that. This idiot user has been a thorough nuisance with his spamming, and I do appreciate tackling the older list. I reckon the sites in the older list were done by the same person simply due to their identical layout. As for the current spam that's being posted, I have a couple more links to add to the bot:
<pre>
www.rebecalinares.net
www.nikkitaylor.org
www.nyomimarcela.org
www.veronicahart.net
</pre>
Again, thanks for acting! [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] 22:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:Heh, shadowbot is doing a very good job here... at least one IP address has been blocked as a result of spamming these. —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 16:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::That may be the case, but the spammer is '''very''' persistent - check the history. I've had to pull the links for those four sites out several times since Shadowbot started watching. I think it's time to blacklist those four links (rebecalinares.net et al). [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] 21:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Is there a way to get independent link review as part of peer review? ==
 
I am wondering if there is any process for calling in outside link reviewers to rate external links relative to standard Wikipedia policies. I see this as a specialized type of peer review. We have a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject League of Copyeditors|League of Copyeditors]], but is there a ''League of Link Reviewers''? Having a neutral party look at certain articles could be useful. This could look at WP:RS issues in addition to linkspam issues. [[User:Buddhipriya|Buddhipriya]] 19:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:Ugh, spam is spam and should be easily seen when evidence is presented. Links are either useful to building the encyclopedia, or they are not. —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 19:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::I agree that linkspam should be removed whenever possible. However as a member of WikiProject Spam, in doing link removal I have noticed that sometimes people do not agree if a link is spam. Asking my question another way, is there any existing process to get independent examination of links to determine if those links comply with the policies for [[WP:EL]]? [[User:Buddhipriya|Buddhipriya]] 19:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Sure [[WT:EL|the talk page of the external links policy]], lets try to avoid [[WP:CREEP|process creep]]. —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 19:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::::You could alwase request a third opinion. [[WP:RF3O]]. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 22:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== DMOZ linking ==
 
There is currently an edit skirmish (not yet a war) over at [[Wikipedia talk:External links]] over whether the {{tl|Dmoz}} template and DMOZ links should be allowed in articles at all, much less whether its use is encouraged or not. I was under the impression that there was strong support for using the DMOZ template in articles. See these discussions, among others:
#[[Wikipedia_talk:External_links/Archive_14#Yahoo_Directory.2C_and_Dmoz|Talk:External links - Yahoo Directory and DMOZ]]
#[[Wikipedia_talk:External_links/Archive_13#Link_to_Dmoz.3F |Talk:External links - Link to DMOZ]]
#[[Wikipedia_talk:External_links/Archive_13#DMOZ_again |Talk:External links - DMOZ Again]]
#[[Wikipedia_talk:External_links/Archive_9#Use of deep links into DMOZ categories |Talk:External links - Use of deep links into DMOZ categories]]
#[[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 December 15#Template:Dmoz]]
#[[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 January 19#Template:NoMoreLinks]]
Am I wrong about this? If so, this necessitates a big shift in how I and others have been fighting spam links. --&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User talk:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 21:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
: I think this discussion has been going on since before I was a Wikipedia editor :-) I'm not seeing anything different happening right now. Maybe there are some new points, but I wouldn't rush to change anything yet, in terms of how we treat those links. -- [[User:Alucard (Dr.)|Alucard (Dr.)]] | [[User talk:Alucard (Dr.)|Talk]] 23:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::But it makes me nervous when I see very well-respected administrators saying things such as:
::*''"...we're throwing ourselves on the mercy of that project's editorial judgment and policies rather than our own."'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AExternal_links&diff=120106410&oldid=119880111]
::*''"It may be popular, but the point of our guideline pages is not to advertise popular websites."''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AExternal_links&diff=120205085&oldid=120180345]
::*''"We are not linking to Google searches, not to the Yahoo categories directory and we should link to DMOZ either."''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AExternal_links&diff=120261082&oldid=120230667]
::Those statements were really surprising to me because, like I said, I really believe there is widespread support for using DMOZ links. I guess we'll see how the conversation goes over there. --&nbsp;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User talk:Satori Son|<b>Satori Son</b>]]</span> 01:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:::The primary use of the link is to prevent us from becoming a [[WP:NOT|linkfarm]]. Frankly any site that wikipdia editors deem as a good linkfarm is fine by me, but we only need one linkfarm per article. —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 01:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== smashits.com ==
 
{{spamlink|smashits.com}}
 
Present in over 30 articles, and recently spammed by {{IPvandal|38.101.117.210}}.
 
Shows streaming video of Bollywood movies. Is this a copyright violation? If not, the amount of advertising alone would suggest that this link doesn't meet [[WP:EL]]. Any thoughts? [[User:Nposs|Nposs]] 00:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== "agent for speaking engagements" links ==
 
I found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALinksearch&target=*.gordonpoole.com these links] for a speaker/artist agency after [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/217.41.34.122 this user] spammed [[Motivational speaker]]. I reverted a couple of them, but would like an admin to look at the rest before I get too carried away. Thanks. --[[User:CliffC|CliffC]] 17:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'm thinking remove them; the sites don't count as [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] due to the obvious conflict of interest, and they're offering a product. [[User:Veinor|Veinor]] [[User_talk:Veinor|<sup>(talk to me)</sup>]] 17:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
::Done, thanks. --[[User:CliffC|CliffC]] 21:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Not linkspam - but over 50 external links in one article?! ==
 
The external links section of [[Dramarama (band)]] just seems exist as a directory of links to reviews and sites about this band. I know it's not spam, but is there a limit on the amount of links in one article? I've never seen such a huge amount before. [[User:172.206.122.130|172.206.122.130]] 19:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:This may be a more appropriate question for [[WT:EL|the external links guidelines talk page]]. 50 links as simple external links and not references is excessive, the guidelines say "a few". Some of it probably is spam - fan sites people want to promote and the like. But in any case our [[WP:NOT|not a directory policy]] would indicate drastic cuts are in order. I see [[User:Betacommand]] has just done some well needed pruning. -- [[User_Talk:SiobhanHansa|Siobhan Hansa]] 21:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
::This might be a good place to apply the "Nuke and watch" tactic. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 21:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Not forgetting the purpose of anti spam ==
The Spam initiative is important and a great movement for the over all purpose of the wikipedia, never the less it seems like certain users are now using the spam initiative in a probably unexpected way. An example of this is how I (Klutus) have encountered a user (Requestion). User Requestion seem to perceive any change to an article as spam. Also it seems like he believe that links to internal articles are not spam even though they clearly are. I presume users like this one use the spam initiative as a way to stop change and probably defend articles linking to their own personal interests – i.e promoting their own interests by “stalling” the change and the clean-up.
 
Not related to the user mentioned above, I have seen this happen specifically around articles describing a company like for example the one about [[FON]]. The usual scenario is that you fix the article for example by adding important back-ground information (I tried with FON), and sometimes links to other sites that give the article more substance and the reader more insight into the topic. It is my assumption that given that there is an article about a company that the company in more over the market, and how it satisfies it, that is interesting – not the company itself. Never the less, any changes that clean up company related articles seem to enjoy much "user protection" and often by very active "editorial" users, threatening you with vandalism tagging and blocking, or in other ways just being abusive.
 
This is the main point I’m trying to make, the spam initiative need to manage users misusing the initiative to their own goals. Further more it seems like the main point of the anti spam, to remove spam has been replaced by a general will to remove external links – this is total nonsense when executed without actual knowledge of the subject of the article. Imagine the internet with links "within" only one web server, the value would be nill. I often use the wikipedia to learn about things – the external links are often the most valuable as they often link to interesting companies and organizations that stay on the edge of a technology or topic. If the wikipedia stops linking external sources it’s value is quickly dropped to "last years encyclopedia".
 
'''Proposition for a solution:''' When a spam fighter encounters an article that contains links to other sources of information (potentially spam internal to the wikipedia or external) that he goes through the following reasoning:
1. Do the links to other resources add any value at all?
a. If no: remove ALL links
b. If yes let ALL links stay
 
2. Are there more than one link to a company or an organization that appear similar?
a. If Yes – it is better to add descriptions to each link describing the specificity of that link – than to remove it.
b. If links are both external and internal – create the beginning of an article about the company that only has an external link ( easy to cut and paste from the “about us page)
 
This way the spam project could curbe people impersonating as spam fighters when thier only goal is to protect current state. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Klutus|Klutus]] ([[User talk:Klutus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Klutus|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
 
:Please for the love of wikigods (the gods anyone can edit), DO NOT cut-and-paste from the About-Us section of any website. This is a clear violation of someone's copyrights. ---[[User:J.smith|J.S]] <small>([[User_talk:J.smith|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/J.smith|C]]/[[WP:WRE|WRE]])</small> 21:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:Klutus, looking at your edits you seem to be under the misapprehension that Wikipedia articles are portals to all external information on a subject. You might find our [[WP:NOT|what Wikipedia is not policy]] enlightening in terms of explaining why your suggestion is not so useful. -- [[User_Talk:SiobhanHansa|Siobhan Hansa]] 21:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:: I have the makings of a spam report here [[User_talk:Requestion#Special:Linksearch.2F.2A.amazingports.com]]. Also take a look at the warning Klutus left for me directly above it. I love the "personal truths or promotion" bit he made up. It turns out that [[User:Klutus]] is Jan Eldenmalm who is the CEO of the amazingports.com website. Klutus made a claim that I am somehow editing in a biased manner, please produce some diffs that verify this false claim. Could an admin please send me the contents to the [[Obsid]] article that was deleted? I suspect it might contain some important clues. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 22:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC))
:::Sent to your talk. [[User:Femto|Femto]] 11:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:::: Thanks Femto. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 15:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC))
 
Klutus: I think we are getting off the topic here. Yes I have worked in the WiFi industry for almost 10 years. I was the active CEO for AmazingPorts but currently work for a governance consultancy. I also have affiliations with many other companies in the industry. I was hoping to use this experience to add value to the wikipedia by adding history and an occasional link here and there to products and solutions that are relevant. But this was not the topic for this discussion. (I'll post my currently deleted article on fashion on Requestion's talk page) Can we please get back to the topic.
 
The spam initiative is supposed to chase down links to irrelevant other web pages, not stop the relevant once. I currently feel that this is not working very well. I share the point of view that it was an unusually bad idea to copy content. But it remains a fact that articles should reference preferably external verifiable sources backing the article or displaying an opposite opinion. That is the whole purpose of the notability tag, when this is missing.
:All articles should have references. External links, listed at the end of the article, are not the same thing as references. References are governed by a different set of guidelines too. Please don't use a heading "External references", because that just is going to confuse editors who won't know which guidelines apply. To be sure references are recognised as such, inline citations should be used. [[User:Notinasnaid|Notinasnaid]] 10:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::Just to be helpful the guidelines for references are [[WP:RS|our reliable sourcing guidelines]] and please have a look at [[WP:CITE|our citation guide]]. Cheers! —— [[user:Eagle 101|<font color="navy">'''Eagle'''</font><font color="red">'''101''']] </font><sup>[[user_talk:Eagle 101|Need help?]]</sup> 16:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== sunnymonkey stuff spammed to Wikipedia ==
 
Domains spammed to Wikipedia:
*www.mikafanclub.com
**mikafanclub.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.mikafanclub.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/mikafanclub.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/mikafanclub.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/mikafanclub.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=mikafanclub.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=mikafanclub.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=mikafanclub.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.kartingextra.com
**kartingextra.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.kartingextra.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/kartingextra.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/kartingextra.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/kartingextra.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=kartingextra.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=kartingextra.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=kartingextra.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.wlingo.com/?referral=113
**Note -- I don't think this ___domain is owned by sunnymonkey -- he was just trying to snag revenues from the referral code
***wlingo.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.wlingo.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/wlingo.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/wlingo.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/wlingo.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=wlingo.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=wlingo.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=wlingo.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.yourmycrush.com
**yourmycrush.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.yourmycrush.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/yourmycrush.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/yourmycrush.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/yourmycrush.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=yourmycrush.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=yourmycrush.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=yourmycrush.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.dateburn.com
**dateburn.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.dateburn.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/dateburn.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/dateburn.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/dateburn.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=dateburn.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=dateburn.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=dateburn.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.brightonvibes.com
**brightonvibes.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.brightonvibes.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/brightonvibes.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/brightonvibes.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/brightonvibes.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=brightonvibes.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=brightonvibes.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=brightonvibes.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.waterutopia.com
**waterutopia.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.waterutopia.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/waterutopia.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/waterutopia.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/waterutopia.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=waterutopia.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=waterutopia.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=waterutopia.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.eatingbritain.com
**eatingbritain.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.eatingbritain.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/eatingbritain.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/eatingbritain.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/eatingbritain.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=eatingbritain.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=eatingbritain.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=eatingbritain.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.hyundaisportsclub.com
**hyundaisportsclub.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.hyundaisportsclub.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/hyundaisportsclub.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/hyundaisportsclub.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/hyundaisportsclub.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=hyundaisportsclub.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=hyundaisportsclub.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=hyundaisportsclub.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*onlyfinance.redclaim.com
**redirects to http://www.onlyfinance.com
::*redclaim.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.redclaim.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/redclaim.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/redclaim.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/redclaim.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=redclaim.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=redclaim.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=redclaim.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
::*onlyfinance.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.onlyfinance.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/onlyfinance.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/onlyfinance.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/onlyfinance.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=onlyfinance.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=onlyfinance.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=onlyfinance.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.dashboardmonkey.com
**dashboardmonkey.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.dashboardmonkey.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/dashboardmonkey.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/dashboardmonkey.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/dashboardmonkey.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=dashboardmonkey.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=dashboardmonkey.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=dashboardmonkey.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.urbanindustry.co.uk
**urbanindustry.co.uk:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.urbanindustry.co.uk{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/urbanindustry.co.uk|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/urbanindustry.co.uk{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/urbanindustry.co.uk Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=urbanindustry.co.uk Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=urbanindustry.co.uk Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=urbanindustry.co.uk+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com
**Swiftcover Insurance Services Ltd
***mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=mercedesbenzcarinsurance.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
*www.duvetland.com
**duvetland.com:<small>[[special:linksearch/*.duvetland.com{{!}}Linksearch]] • [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkSearch/duvetland.com|Linkreport]] • [[User:COIBot/LinkReports/duvetland.com{{!}}COIBot Linkreport]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/spamsearch/duvetland.com Eagle's spam report search] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~eagle/linksearch?search=duvetland.com Eagle's interwiki link search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=duvetland.com Google search] • [http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=en&q=duvetland.com+veinor Google search Veinor pages]</small>
 
 
Adsense IDs:
*9321341301641620
*8644026233666675
 
Accounts:
*<span class="plainlinks">[[User:82.195.160.59|82.195.160.59]] <small>([[User talk:82.195.160.59|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.195.160.59|contribs]] • [[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:82.195.160.59|links]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:82.195.160.59}}&site=en.wikipedia.org <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log?user={{urlencode:82.195.160.59}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user logs</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log/?page=User:{{urlencode:82.195.160.59}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user page logs</span>] || [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?___domain=82.195.160.59 WHOIS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=82.195.160.59 RDNS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=82.195.160.59 traceroute] • [http://completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=82.195.160.59 RBLs] • [http://www.ippages.com/?ip=82.195.160.59 tor] • [http://www.google.com/search?q=82.195.160.59 search])</small></span>
*<span class="plainlinks">[[User:81.98.154.174|81.98.154.174]] <small>([[User talk:81.98.154.174|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/81.98.154.174|contribs]] • [[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:81.98.154.174|links]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:81.98.154.174}}&site=en.wikipedia.org <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log?user={{urlencode:81.98.154.174}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user logs</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log/?page=User:{{urlencode:81.98.154.174}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user page logs</span>] || [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?___domain=81.98.154.174 WHOIS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=81.98.154.174 RDNS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=81.98.154.174 traceroute] • [http://completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=81.98.154.174 RBLs] • [http://www.ippages.com/?ip=81.98.154.174 tor] • [http://www.google.com/search?q=81.98.154.174 search])</small></span>
*<span class="plainlinks">[[User:Itrends|Itrends]] <small>([[User talk:Itrends|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Itrends|contribs]] • [[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Itrends|links]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:Itrends}}&site=en.wikipedia.org <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log?user={{urlencode:Itrends}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user logs</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log/?page=User:{{urlencode:Itrends}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user page logs</span>] || [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?___domain=Itrends WHOIS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=Itrends RDNS] • [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=Itrends traceroute] • [http://completewhois.com/cgi-bin/rbl_lookup.cgi?query=Itrends RBLs] • [http://www.ippages.com/?ip=Itrends tor] • [http://www.google.com/search?q=Itrends search])</small></span>
 
Owns many additional domains not spammed to Wikipedia (that I know of). I was able to identify 59; see [[User:A. B./Sandbox9]] <small>(permalinks: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:A._B./Sandbox9&oldid=125677323#additional_sunnymonkey_domains][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:A._B./Sandbox9&oldid=125677323#sunnymonkey_domains_for_sale])</small><br>
--[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:New account spamming again today:<sup>[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mika_%28singer%29&diff=prev&oldid=126182363]</sup>
:*<span class="plainlinks">[[User:Yumikuga2|Yumikuga2]] <small>([[User talk:Yumikuga2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yumikuga2|contribs]] • [[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Yumikuga2|links]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:Yumikuga2}}&site=en.wikipedia.org <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log?user={{urlencode:Yumikuga2}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user logs</span>] • [{{SERVER}}/wiki/Special:Log/?page=User:{{urlencode:Yumikuga2}} <span style="color:#002bb8">user page logs</span>] • [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Listusers&limit=1&username={{urlencode:Yumikuga2}} status])</small></span>
 
:Blacklisting [[m:Talk:Spam blacklist#sunnymonkey domains|requested]]. <small>(Permanent [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Spam_blacklist&oldid=572571#sunnymonkey_domains link])</small><br>--[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 18:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Vliegervaringencom / Flightopinions.com ==
 
Strange case, two links vliegervaringen.com (Dutch, translates into 'flightopinions.com' or 'flightexperiences.com'), and flightopinions.com. Links are sometimes changed (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martinair&diff=prev&oldid=117557205 diff] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martinair&diff=next&oldid=123545937 diff], both on Martinair).
* {{spamlink|vliegervaringen.com}}
* {{spamlink|flightopinions.com}}
Accounts:
* {{userlinks|Rickbocher}}
* {{userlinks|83.118.174.202}}
--[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 20:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
:(Pulled from archive)Another link in the same pages:
:* {{spamlink|airlinequality.com}}
:Also see [[skytrax]]
:Pages all are just forums where people can leave their opinions. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 07:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== [[Packt]] publishing ==
 
Did a lot of spamming for their books a while back apparently (ended Nov 2005); I saw that the talk page had been blanked by {{user|Here}} and he documented it at [[User:Here/templates/packtpub-spam]]. Today, I just cleaned out the new ones listed at the bottom of that page, copied here:
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DotProject&diff=125769178&oldid=119870206 dotProject]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joomla%21&diff=125769607&oldid=123601198 Joomla!]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Qmail&diff=125770176&oldid=124862492 qmail]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments_for_Python_programming_language&diff=prev&oldid=120185071 Comparison of integrated development environments for Python programming language]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki&diff=prev&oldid=116767781 MediaWiki]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WordPress&diff=prev&oldid=116768215 WordPress]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moodle&diff=prev&oldid=116768851 Moodle]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alfresco_%28software%29&diff=prev&oldid=116769046 Alfresco]
Those were only from {{IPVandal|217.207.125.60}}. &mdash; <span style="text-decoration: none;">[[User:RevRagnarok|<font color="#696969">RevRagnarok</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:RevRagnarok |Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/RevRagnarok|Contrib]]</sup></span> 10:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you. The individual(s) promoting this publisher have been persistent over many months... it seems they remain so. I have no doubt this will remain a long term spam source. Thanks for picking up the chase.. '''&there4;''' [[user:here|here]]&hellip;[[user_talk:here|&spades;]] 17:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
::[[user:COIBot#Blacklist|Blacklisted]] and [[user:COIBot#Monitor list|monitored]] on COIBot. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 10:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Proposed removal of DMOZ mention in [[WP:EL]] ==
 
After being in [[WP:EL]] since October, there's a proposal (and revert war) at EL over the mention of substituting a link to open directory category to try and keep the number of external links down. Since this is a potential linkspam fighting tool, editors here should be aware of the proposed change. Feel free to weigh in there (EL talk page) if you have an opinion on the matter. Thanks. --[[User:Minderbinder|Minderbinder]] 12:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
: The revert war ended up with the page getting a full protection with the entire segment out. Based on some of the discussions I have had during EL wars trying to stop spammers come in, we could be in for some rough times ahead, since I know many have used that clause over the past six months to avert some pretty nasty arguments. I hope that some sort of alternative language is put in there very soon. -- [[User:Alucard (Dr.)|Alucard (Dr.)]] | [[User talk:Alucard (Dr.)|Talk]] 17:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Belvoir Media Group, LLC ==
 
{{IPvandal|155.212.43.20}}
 
Ostensibly useful content, but requires subscription for full access. Edits include not only adding links, but also promoting links to the top of the external link section.
 
Domains spammed:
 
*{{spamlink|arthritis-advisor.com}}
*{{spamlink|environmentalnutrition.com}}
*{{spamlink|practical-sailor.com}}
*{{spamlink|whole-dog-journal.com}}[[User:Nposs|Nposs]] 16:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:I should probably note that, while this one is commercial it seems, there are academic publications that may be cited in an article but require subscription. I remember one that I thought was called json, but that's not its name, which republishes, with permission, many academic and scientific publications(in much greater depth that lexusnexis), but is not free. However, many libraries and academic institutions around the world have access to it. The actual publication is cited, and the URL is that of the subscription site. [[User:Kevin Breitenstein|Kevin_b_er]] 21:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:[[user:COIBot#Monitor list|monitored]] and [[user:COIBot#Blacklist|blacklisted]] on COIBot. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 10:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== http://spam.inciner8.com==
:'''Spam sock accounts'''<br>
{{vandal|Fergie48}}<br>{{IPvandal|84.68.115.64}}<br>--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 19:27, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
:Monitored ([[user:COIBot#Blacklist|blacklist]]) by COIBot. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 07:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Publisher Spam, Incisive Media Investments Ltd. ==
Note: this company owns searchenginewatch.com and searchenginestrategies.com. Finding all the sock accounts, and methods of insertion will not all be obvious spam. I don't believe this is a complete list of sites ect., however I do believe this will take months to unravel the complexity of Incisive Media's integration within Wikipedia. --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 12:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:'''Spam sock accounts'''<br>
{{vandal|Riskbooks}}<br>{{IPvandal|80.83.156.199}}<br>{{IPvandal|67.86.94.12}}<br>{{vandal|ElliottFox}}<br>{{IPvandal|87.80.180.218}}<br>{{vandal|Natknight}}<br>{{IPvandal|81.174.184.188}}<br>{{vandal|Lemurtree}}<br>{{vandal|Vpriest}}<br>{{vandal|Legalweek}}<br>
 
:'''Incisive Media articles'''<br>
*[[Risk Waters Group]]
*[[Risk (magazine)]]
*[[Computeractive]]
*[[Computing (magazine)]]
*[[IT Week]]
*[[Legal Week]]
 
 
:'''Incisive Media sites'''<br>
*{{spamlink|re-world.com}}
*{{spamlink|structuredproductsonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|fxweek.com}}
*{{spamlink|baselalert.com}}
*{{spamlink|riskwaters.com}}
*{{spamlink|incisivemedia.com}}
*{{spamlink|incisivecommunications.com}}
*{{spamlink|cift.com}}
*{{spamlink|risk.net}}
*{{spamlink|asiarisk.com.hk}}
*{{spamlink|energyrisk.com}}
*{{spamlink|creditmag.com}}
*{{spamlink|life-pensions.com}}
*{{spamlink|opriskandcompliance.com}}
*{{spamlink|structuredproductsonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|risknews.net}}
*{{spamlink|riskbooks.com}}
*{{spamlink|journalofcomputationalfinance.com}}
*{{spamlink|journalofrisk.com}}
*{{spamlink|journalofcreditrisk.com}}
*{{spamlink|journalofoperationalrisk.com}}
*{{spamlink|imdreference.com}}
*{{spamlink|imdindex.com}}
*{{spamlink|insidemarketdata.com}}
*{{spamlink|irdonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|incisive-events.com}}
*{{spamlink|activehome.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|computeractive.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|gizmodo.com}}
*{{spamlink|pcmag.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|pcw.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|webactivemagazine.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|whatpc.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|accountancyage.com}}
*{{spamlink|bestpracticemagazine.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|financialdirector.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|managementconsultancy.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|accountancyagejobs.com}}
*{{spamlink|computingcareers.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|inqjobs.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|computing.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|computingbusiness.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|channelweb.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|theinquirer.net}}
*{{spamlink|itweek.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|vnunet.com}}
*{{spamlink|marketing.vnu.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|dealingwithtechnology.com}}
*{{spamlink|dwt-event.com}}
*{{spamlink|searchenginewatch.com}}
*{{spamlink|searchenginestrategies.com}}
*{{spamlink|watersonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|waters-conferences.com}}
*{{spamlink|hfitechnology.com}}
*{{spamlink|bjp-online.com}}
*{{spamlink|postmagazine.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|legalweek.com}}
*{{spamlink|professionalbroking.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|reinsurancemagazine.com}}
*{{spamlink|insuranceage.com}}
*{{spamlink|covermagazine.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|insurance-directories.com}}
*{{spamlink|investmentweek.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|intinv.com}}
*{{spamlink|realadviser.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|masteringmoney.com}}
*{{spamlink|yourmoney.com}}
*{{spamlink|ymitv.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|yourmortgage.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|mortgageedge.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|mortgagesolutions-online.com}}
*{{spamlink|unquote.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|deutscheunquote.com}}
*{{spamlink|franceunquote.com}}
*{{spamlink|nordicunquote.com}}
*{{spamlink|beneluxunquote.com}}
*{{spamlink|southerneuropeunquote.com}}
*{{spamlink|hedgefundsreview.com}}
*{{spamlink|financialmarketingonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|wealthmagazineonline.com}}
*{{spamlink|ifaonline.co.uk}}
*{{spamlink|privateequityinsight.com}}
--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 11:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
:COIBot is [[user:COIBot#Monitor list|monitoring]] these links. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 10:18, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Interlink Networks ==
The company Interlink Networks LLC has been spamming Wikipedia since September 2006 either directly, by proxy, or both. I suspect that [[User:Wikiboy121]] was hired to create the [[Interlink networks]] Wikipedia article. The interlinknetworks.com, lucidlink.com, companycrafters.com domains are all connected by ownership and/or management.
 
Socks
* {{vandal|Wikiboy121}} - created [[Interlink networks]] article, 2 linkspams
* {{IPvandal|194.48.137.18}} - Mobilkom Austria AG ?, 7 linkspams
* {{IPvandal|216.144.222.147}} - IP2GO.NET Ann Arbor Michigan, 29 linkspams
* {{IPvandal|68.40.200.71}} - Comcast Michigan, 23 linkspams
* {{IPvandal|70.9.63.194}} - Sprint PCS Reston VA, 1 linkspam
 
 
== User Alliesadowski and ___domain findmytherapist.com ==
Domains
* [[Special:Linksearch/*.interlinknetworks.com]] - Interlink Networks LLC, Vern Smith, Ann Arbor Michigan
* [[Special:Linksearch/*.lucidlink.com]] - ILN Holdings Inc., Vern Smith, Ann Arbor Michigan
* [[Special:Linksearch/*.companycrafters.com]] - Mike Klein, managing partner, is also the CEO of Interlink Networks
 
* {{User summary|Alliesadowski}}
* {{Link summary|findmytherapist.com}}
 
User Alliesadowski has made 12 total edits, 11 of those on Aug 6. Of those edits, 7 add links to findmytherapist.com, frequently as an inline external link in the article:
Megasearch
<small>
* {{spamlink|interlinknetworks.com}}
* {{spamlink|lucidlink.com}}
* {{spamlink|companycrafters.com}}
</small>
 
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Analysis_paralysis&diff=prev&oldid=1304551264
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Parenting_stress&diff=prev&oldid=1304550420
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fear_of_flying&diff=prev&oldid=1304550129
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Love_bombing&diff=prev&oldid=1304549314
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emotional_dumping&diff=prev&oldid=1304548592
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Driving_phobia&diff=prev&oldid=1304547791
* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attachment_theory&diff=prev&oldid=1304547187
 
[[User:Catleeball|Catleeball]] ([[User talk:Catleeball|talk]]) 23:52, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
See [[User_talk:Requestion#Deletion_of_RADIUS_links]] for an interesting conversation with Wikiboy121 and the CompanyCrafters connection. The final warning has been violated twice. In total 62 linkspams have been added. A whole lot of spooky stuff has happened because of this de-spamming. There are some crosswiki hits and I recommend blacklisting. [http://spam.interlinknetworks.com] [http://spam.lucidlink.com] [http://spam.companycrafters.com] ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 23:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC))
:COIBot* is{{opblocked}} [[user:COIBot#MonitorAlliesadowski list|monitoring]]indefinitely. Thanks for thesereporting linksthis. The ___domain does not appear to have been spammed by other users at this time, but please re--[[User:Beetstra|Dirkreport Beetstra]]if <sup>this happens again.{{bcc|Catleeball}} —&nbsp;'''''[[User_TalkUser:BeetstraNewslinger|<span style="color:#0000FF536267;">TNewslinger</span>]] '''&nbsp;<small>[[SpecialUser talk:Contributions/BeetstraNewslinger#top|<span style="color:#0000FF708090;">Ctalk</span>]]</supsmall>'' 1000:1906, 2712 AprilAugust 20072025 (UTC)
 
== firstwatchmenuprices.com, firstwatxhmenu.com ==
== spam of CMPMedia / MillerFreeman publications from MillerFreeman IP ==
 
* {{Link summary|firstwatchmenuprices.com}}
Socks
* {{Link summary|firstwatxhmenu.com}}
* {{IPvandal|192.155.57.222}}
* {{IPvandalUser summary|198.71.26.155Food989blogger}}
* {{IPvandalUser summary|198.71.26.251Jigarsinghlorra}}
* {{IP summary|2400:ADC7:90C:9100::/64}}
* {{IPvandal|198.71.26.45}}
—&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
* {{IPvandal|198.71.26.248}}
* {{IPvandal|198.71.26.235}} - only home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin
* {{IPvandal|198.71.26.202}} - only home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin
* {{IPvandal|198.71.26.222}} - only home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin
* {{vandal|Yewyew66}}
* {{vandal|Maxalot}} - CMP Media links + some diycalculator.com
 
:{{added}} firstwatchmenuprices.com to [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]]. Both accounts are now {{opblocked}}. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:13, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{u|HJ Mitchell}}, I was reviewing the archives of this page and found your comment from {{slink|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2024 Archive Mar#nostra.gg}} advising me to consult with a checkuser for throwaway spam accounts like these. Is this advice still current, and would you prefer this information in the form of SPI reports? —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:37, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newslinger|Newslinger]] thanks for the ping. I'll try and look at this today. All the information I need is here so no need for an SPI. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ&nbsp;Mitchell</b>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span>]] 12:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Newslinger|Newslinger]] you'll be shocked to hear that those two were {{tallyho}} though interestingly not on that /64. They overlap with a lot of other spam accounts so thanks for helping me fill my block quota for today! Always happy to take a look when CU might be useful. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ&nbsp;Mitchell</b>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span>]] 15:42, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, {{u|HJ Mitchell}}. I wasn't expecting that many sockpuppets to be blocked, so I'll definitely ping you in each new report. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 19:06, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]] vs [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] ==
<small>
CMP Media
* {{spamlink|audiodesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|automotivedesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|dspdesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|edadesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|greensupplyline.com}}
* {{spamlink|industrialcontroldesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|interop.com}}
* {{spamlink|pldesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|powermanagementdesignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|videsignline.com}}
* {{spamlink|wirelessnetdesignline.com}}
 
I'm confused what the difference between these is? Is there any practical difference other than that [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] is more user-friendly for admins? [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 10:00, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
'''Not''' CMP Media
* {{spamlink|diycalculator.com}}
* {{spamlink|home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin}}
</small>
 
:[[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] ignores [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]], so I only use [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] for domains that I am confident will not need to have whitelisted exceptions, such as the domains of non-[[WP:N|notable]] websites that have been [[WP:LINKSPAM|link spammed]]. Also, because [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] does not handle [[regular expression]]s, any filter entry that does not solely target a single ___domain in its entirety should be added using [[MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist]]. If I can use either one, then I would prefer [[Special:BlockedExternalDomains]] because it is easier to use. —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 10:34, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
::I believe the developers prefer us to use BED over the SB because it's less resource-intensive, so that should probably be the default approach. Obvioulsy the SB is handy if you need whitelisted exceptions or entries or more complex entries than one ___domain at a time. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ&nbsp;Mitchell</b>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span>]] 11:54, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::{{re|Newslinger|HJ Mitchell}} Thanks both - very helpful. [[User:Smartse|SmartSE]] ([[User talk:Smartse|talk]]) 16:13, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== hostaddon.com ==
This is probably only the tip of the iceberg, these guys have hundreds of publications.. most of which are fairly decent for the niche subjects they cover, shame of them for spamming Wikipedia! --[[User:Versageek|Versageek]] 00:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
{{Link summary|hostaddon.com}}, been added by a vast variety of IPs seemingly always as a bare ref or an external link. Two stints, once from 2024-07-17 to 2024-08-05 and now again since 2025-07-14. [[User:Perryprog|Perryprog]] ([[User talk:Perryprog|talk]]) 22:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for listing this. My thoughts exactly. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 00:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 
:Added to [[Special:CommunityConfiguration/BlockedDomain|blocked external domains]] ([[WP:BED]]). Thanks for reporting this.{{bcc|Perryprog}} —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 17:33, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
I wonder if all these media companies that have been discovered spamming wiki in the last week - share a marketing / advertising firm that has given them some really bad advice.. --[[User:Versageek|Versageek]] 00:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks! (I just realized I posted this on the wrong page, too... I'm so out of practice!) [[User:Perryprog|Perryprog]] ([[User talk:Perryprog|talk]]) 17:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
:::It's perfectly fine to report spam-related ___domain block requests on this page, although there are fewer editors monitoring this page than [[MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist]] ([[WP:SBL]]). On the other hand, we can discuss and investigate more complex spam issues here, whereas [[WP:SBL]] is generally limited to requests that are accepted or declined based solely on the evidence provided.{{bcc|Perryprog}} —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 19:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== https://dumps.wikimedia.org/dvd.html ==
: I just ran into the Miller Freeman / CMP Media connection today. I added 9 more users and 10 more URLs to the above list. All of the above IPs are registered to Miller Freeman. All of the above domains are owned by CMP Media except the last two which I believe are personal websites. I've been tracking some of the diycalculator.com and {dsp|eda|pl}designline.com links for a couple weeks. This is an extremely complicated and intertwined web of spam. The home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin link is very interesting in that it originates from a Miller Freeman IP and two hours after I deleted those links another Miller Freemean IP added a couple of them back. So someone is definitely keeping a close eye on their spam. I predict this is going to get a lot bigger and I suggest creating a home base like I did with [[Talk:Penton Media]] to hold all the information. ([[User:Requestion|Requestion]] 05:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC))
 
Link to Wikipedia 0.5 is online casino spam; template doesn't render properly to dump pages, apparently.
In case it wasn't known: Miller Freeman '''''is''''' CMP Media [http://www.secinfo.com/dVut2.6wpb.d.htm]. --[[User:Versageek|Versageek]] 06:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
[[User:Hiobazard|<span style="background:gold;color:#000;border:2px solid #000;padding:2px;">☣︎ Hiobazard ☣︎</span>]] 16:05, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
:If the new functionality of COIBot is working, these are all monitored ([[user:COIBot#blacklist|blacklist]]) by COIBot. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 08:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
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