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While the original Baldi game is the most popular in media, Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered and Baldi's Basics Plus are (becoming) way bigger than the original game (for instance, the entire "ARG" and secret messages a year after BBCR's release), so I want to propose to make this article about the series themselves. [[User:QwertyPc Game17|QwertyPc Game17]] ([[User talk:QwertyPc Game17|talk]]) 21:28, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
:I believe it would make more sense to create a separate article under the name "Baldi's Basics (series)", since this article has enough sources to show that it's noteworthy enough to be covered here. [[User:SleepDeprivedGinger|SleepDeprivedGinger]] ([[User talk:SleepDeprivedGinger|talk]]) 22:56, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, I agree, or maybe they can make a separate page for the franchise, not only the game. [[User:Koolaidpedia|Koolaidpedia]] ([[User talk:Koolaidpedia|talk]]) 01:23, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
 
== I think Baldi's Basics Plus should have its separate article. ==
 
I just fleshed out information on it on this article, but as I did it and finished the edit, I remembered that ''Baldi's Basics Plus'' and ''Classic'' are separate games, and Basically Games has confirmed this themselves. "[https://www.basicallygames.com/baldipress Note: This is not a sequel to Baldi's Basics Classic. Baldi's Basics Classic and Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered, though they share the same IP, are more akin to proof-of-concept games. Baldi's Basics Plus will be the ultimate, main Baldi's Basics game that has been planned since the idea's inception.]" [[User:ExplodingCreeper14|ExplodingCreeper14]] ([[User talk:ExplodingCreeper14|talk]]) 02:50, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
 
:Can you prove that Baldi's Basics Plus is [[WP:GNG|independently notable]] by Wikipedia's standards? Furthermore, can you demonstrate that there's a [[WP:MERGEREASON|reason to have the two be separate]]? <span style="border:#000000;border:2px solid #000000;padding:2px">'''λ''' [[User:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#264e85">'''Negative'''</span>]][[User talk:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#7d43b5">'''MP1'''</span>]]</span> 03:02, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
 
== Article is not about the series ==
 
{{ping|Koolaidpedia}} I'm not sure if you are reading my [[Special:Diff/1301397726|edit summaries or not]], but to reiterate, this article is not about the Baldi's Basics series. It is about the original game, nothing more, and nothing less. Furthermore, there is not enough coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to cover the series as a whole, so giving weight towards it is [[WP:UNDUE]]. Also, I don't think Baldi's Basics qualifies to be a ''media'' franchise when it only officially comprises of video games - a ''media'' franchise would probably go well beyond that. At most, it would be a video game series. But that's off topic and not the focus here. The focus is that the article is about the game. Not the series. Introducing the article as about the franchise in the lead sentence is blatantly misleading.
 
I am attempting to avoid an [[WP:EDITWAR|edit war here]], but so far, you don't seem to be paying attention to my concerns or understanding that your edits are not constructive. I hope that you actually see this message and are willing to discuss the matter. <span style="border:#000000;border:2px solid #000000;padding:2px">'''λ''' [[User:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#264e85">'''Negative'''</span>]][[User talk:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#7d43b5">'''MP1'''</span>]]</span> 19:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
 
:Can I aleast put "Apart of the Baldi franchise" I'm also to avoid a war. [[User:Koolaidpedia|Koolaidpedia]] ([[User talk:Koolaidpedia|talk]]) 01:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
::I don't really see how that's necessary either. It's more like trivia. And, again, there's no media franchise to speak of. The existence of plushies isn't enough. You'd also need [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] discussing that there's a franchise in the first place. Otherwise it'd be [[WP:SYNTH]] or [[WP:OR]]. <span style="border:#000000;border:2px solid #000000;padding:2px">'''λ''' [[User:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#264e85">'''Negative'''</span>]][[User talk:NegativeMP1|<span style="color:#7d43b5">'''MP1'''</span>]]</span> 01:32, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:And also Baldi has plushies and types of merchandise, so it is a media franchise. [[User:Koolaidpedia|Koolaidpedia]] ([[User talk:Koolaidpedia|talk]]) 01:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
::By media, I'm pretty sure Negative means stuff like TV and movies. Baldi has only had a few video games, that and merchandise alone likely do not count as a media franchise. ''Signed, [[User:SleepyRedHair|SleepyRedHair]].'' ([[User talk:SleepyRedHair|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/SleepyRedHair|contribs]]) 01:35, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:::then it's a video game series? Sorry, that I messed up that information. [[User:Koolaidpedia|Koolaidpedia]] ([[User talk:Koolaidpedia|talk]]) 01:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:I agree with Negative's statement. If something can't be properly sourced, then it should not be mentioned (per [[WP:N]]). I think the article should solely focus on the original video game with small mentions of successors. ''Signed, [[User:SleepyRedHair|SleepyRedHair]].'' ([[User talk:SleepyRedHair|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/SleepyRedHair|contribs]]) 01:43, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
::Alright, but don't you think they should make a page about the series? [[User:Koolaidpedia|Koolaidpedia]] ([[User talk:Koolaidpedia|talk]]) 01:46, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:::No. I've performed a search and found little to no sources that could be used for an article like that. An article about the whole series just isn't that noteworthy. ''Signed, [[User:SleepyRedHair|SleepyRedHair]].'' ([[User talk:SleepyRedHair|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/SleepyRedHair|contribs]]) 08:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
 
:Koolaidpedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABaldi%27s_Basics_in_Education_and_Learning&diff=1301576629&oldid=1301522940 started a discussion that was off-topic] to the subject of the article, where they were asking why their edits to [[YouTube]] were being reverted (it was because they didn't provide any sources; furthermore, said information was already present elsewhere in the article). Because of this, plus the nature of their edits ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cartoon_Network&diff=prev&oldid=1301449658], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lego&diff=prev&oldid=1301448121], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Netflix%2C_Inc.&diff=1301301919&oldid=1300944488], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NWave_Studios&diff=1300895214&oldid=1298257629]), I have [[WP:CIR|competency]] concerns. [[User:The Grand Delusion|<span style="color:#6600ff;">The</span> <span style="color:#6666ff;">Grand</span> <span style="color:#6699ff;">Delusion</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:The Grand Delusion|Send a message]])</sup> 21:27, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
::I agree with this. Thanks for pitching in. ''Signed, [[User:SleepyRedHair|SleepyRedHair]].'' ([[User talk:SleepyRedHair|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/SleepyRedHair|contribs]]) 22:48, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:::Even I agree with you all! The intresting thing I found out in both already existing and in research is that theres actually enough info for all of that, oddly enough! SI Moon [[User:Grubisz440|Grubisz440]] ([[User talk:Grubisz440|talk]]) 21:31, 31 July 2025 (UTC)