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== 0103:0912, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by Romandraco42IanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=Romandraco42IanResearch|ts=0103:0912, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Kilaparti_RamakrishnaZigZagZurich}}
Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I wantcan do to publish.improve PLEASEmy helpdraft me.and Edit.write Perfect.it Publishin ~a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you ! [[User:Romandraco42IanResearch|Romandraco42IanResearch]] ([[User talk:Romandraco42IanResearch|talk]]) 0103:0912, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
:Listing it here isn't going to get it reviewed any quicker. Your submission was declined because you haven't included any references (please see [[WP:CITE]]). Once these issues are fixed, resubmit it. If you don't fix these issues, it will be declined again. [[User:Aydoh8|Aydo]][[User talk:Aydoh8|h8]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Aydoh8|[what have I done now?]]]</sup> 01:12, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0205:2928, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by Kaiserreich1918AndeHuang ==
{{Lafc|username=Kaiserreich1918AndeHuang|ts=0205:2928, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Nichupte_Lagoon_BridgeWinmate Inc.}}
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:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
:Hi @[[User:Kaiserreich1918|Kaiserreich1918]]! The great news is you don't need government sources - in fact we would prefer you don't use them, because we want to hear what independent people have written about it. Perhaps there's been articles in newspapers or magazines about your subject, or even a book (or part of a book) if it's important enough? Those would be ideal. [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 04:19, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 0506:5440, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by Simonasim414109.252.122.222 ==
{{Lafc|username=Simonasim414109.252.122.222|ts=0506:5440, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:John_Paul_SsemyaloMaxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Hello, I would like to ask for assistance to understand why this topic is not sufficiently notable for Wikipedia (yes, I have read the guidelines). I understood that Wikipedia is missing information and building up the knowledge of business in Africa. Fintech and financial technology sphere is recent sphere (just a few decades) and developing in many African countries. I wrote a page of one of the fintech pioneers in Uganda with demonstrable official recognition in the country's fintech and technology area. How else it could earn notability? This is a very fresh and recent development in the African countries - we are talking just of a few decades and just max. 20 years and of 10-15 years of existing official regulations and guidances and attempts to establish the field. There will be no proper historical research and biographers... But the topic should have coverage in Wikipedia, it is an advantage. [[User:Simonasim414|Simonasim414]] ([[User talk:Simonasim414|talk]]) 05:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Simonasim414|Simonasim414]]:The theredraft ishas nobeen suchrejected, thingmeaning asthat "shouldit havewill coveragenot inbe Wikipedia"considered becausefurther. you feelIf thesomething subjectchanges isin somehowthe "worthy" or "deserving"future, let alone that you thinkare itwelcome needsto "exposure"edit etc.the Ifdraft sufficientand sourcesthen don't existappeal to demonstrate notability, then the subjectrejecting cannot be included in Wikipediareviewer. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing331dot|DoubleGrazing331dot]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing331dot|talk]]) 0906:2153, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
== 0708:5837, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by 103.217.78.200Casa Coto ==
{{Lafc|username=103.217.78.200Casa Coto|ts=0708:5837, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Sooban_TalhaOtto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
every one in this world want to know about sir sooban talha. so please make this draft vailable [[Special:Contributions/103.217.78.200|103.217.78.200]] ([[User talk:103.217.78.200|talk]]) 07:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:People do not want to know about Sooban Talha. This draft has been rejected so it can't be resubmitted. People need to meet [[WP:BIO| strict criteria]] to be notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia and Mr. Talha doesn't meet those.
:Also,cc please don't use AI to write your draft for{{u|Casa youCoto}}. –[[User:CoconutOctopusNovem Linguae|<span style="color: purpleblue">CoconutOctopus'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:CoconutOctopusNovem Linguae|<span style="color: pink">talk]])</spansmall>]] 0813:0953, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
:Comments on your assessment table:
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
== 0912:5811, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by 12078.29150.91201.251201 ==
{{Lafc|username=12078.29150.91201.251201|ts=0912:5811, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Kyla_Danelle_RomeroFusion_candle}}
whatBecause kindI ofcannot sourcesfind doany imore needreferences to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/12078.29150.91201.251201|12078.29150.91201.251201]] ([[User talk:12078.29150.91201.251201|talk]]) 0912:5811, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:You need to tell us the sources where all this information has come from, because it clearly hasn't come from the ones cited in the draft.
:Also, the citations need to be placed inline next to the information they support, so that it's clear which source has provided what information, and how much of it is not supported by the sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:06, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
== 1214:0257, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by Salicia7Aras2025 ==
{{Lafc|username=Salicia7Aras2025|ts=1214:0257, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:NomupayRadio_Duhok}}
Hello,
Two clarifications on the comments: 1. In terms of notability, can consideration be given to the fact that the company's subsidiary has an existing Wikipedia article [[KlickEx]]? 2. Which sources in particular fail the test of depth, reliability, independence? They are taken from third party news articles (e.g. [[Techcrunch]]), and appear relatively detailed. [[User:Salicia7|Salicia7]] ([[User talk:Salicia7|talk]]) 12:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
:Notability is [[WP:NOTINHERITED|not inherited by association]]. It is possible for a subsidiary company to merit an article but not its parent company. Your references all describe the routine business activities of the company, this is [[WP:ORGDEPTH|not significant coverage]] that shows how the company meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]].
:If you are employed by Norumpay, that must be disclosed per the Terms of Use, see [[WP:PAID]], as well as [[WP:COI]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
== 12:56, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Bhartiya Sangeetkar ==
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
{{Lafc|username=Bhartiya Sangeetkar|ts=12:56, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Tarkik Bhawsar}}
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
Plz help me write this article that matches Wikipedia's terms and conditions... [[User:Bhartiya Sangeetkar|Bhartiya Sangeetkar]] ([[User talk:Bhartiya Sangeetkar|talk]]) 12:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Bhartiya Sangeetkar}} You need the full title, including the "Draft:" portion, when linking. I fixed this for you.
:We don't do co-editing here at the Help Desk. Do you have questions about the reason for the decline?
:You declared a conflict of interest, what is the general nature of it? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:01, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::I had drafted this article 2 times but i still don't understand what thing matches wikipedia's terms and conditions. plz help me understand that in simple words. [[User:Bhartiya Sangeetkar|Bhartiya Sangeetkar]] ([[User talk:Bhartiya Sangeetkar|talk]]) 12:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
== 13:17, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Barunpmondal ==
{{Lafc|username=Barunpmondal|ts=13:17, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Rajat_Bhardwaj_Mukherjee_(Politician)}}
I added some references for this article. I thought this is suitable and sufficient for this. Could I know what's more I need to do? [[User:Barunpmondal|Barunpmondal]] ([[User talk:Barunpmondal|talk]]) 13:17, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:YouAny haveguidance resubmittedwould thebe draftgreatly forappreciated. review; the reviewer will leaveThank you feedback if not accepted. [[User:331dotAras2025|331dotAras2025]] ([[User talk:331dotAras2025|talk]]) 1314:1957, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:21, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Jitheshcr7 ==
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jitheshcr7|ts=13:21, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Prajyoti_Niketan_College}}
Could anyone please review the submission ? its been more than 3 weeks now pending for review. My previous submissions had been reviewed within the same day. Appreciate a feedback. [[User:Jitheshcr7|Jitheshcr7]] ([[User talk:Jitheshcr7|talk]]) 13:21, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{yo|Jitheshcr7}} It will be reviewed at some point, but we don't do expedited reviews and there is no way of predicting when a draft will be reviewed. Since this draft was ''rejected'' a couple of weeks ago, it should not have been submitted for review at all. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 13:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
== 1316:4350, 3028 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by Visha78Saysky2 ==
{{Lafc|username=Visha78Saysky2|ts=1316:4350, 3028 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Andrews_Federal_Credit_UnionAjay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
Hello, Being a member of the credit union, I feel it is notable (it is currently the 4th largest CU in MD), but I understand if I shouldn't be submitting on its behalf being that I work there. How do current organizations who are mentioned substantially get submitted but the topic is not as mainstream (like popular figures). Thank you! [[User:Visha78|Visha78]] ([[User talk:Visha78|talk]]) 13:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:"Mainstream" is not relevant; what matters is the coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. You haven't provided that; you've just summarized the activities of the credit union. See [[WP:ORGDEPTH]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 14:43, 30 April 2025 review of submission by GisPiano34 ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=GisPiano34|ts=14:43, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Tierra_Montgomery}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
I want to understand why my Wikipedia page keeps being declined. I fixed the references to the standards of Wikipedia, had taken out some information I did not have references for, and for the references I do have, made sure they came from reputable public, first-hand sources. This is not an easy process. But please help me to understand. My goal is to have the page. [[User:GisPiano34|GisPiano34]] ([[User talk:GisPiano34|talk]]) 14:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
:If you have a relationship with this musician, that needs to be disclosed, see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]].
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
:The draft is very poorly sourced. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about (in this case) a musician, showing how they are [[WP:BAND|a notable musician as Wikipedia defines one]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I now see that you are editing about yourself; this is highly discouraged, please see [[WP:AUTO|the autobiography policy]]. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves. It's usually very difficult for people to set aside what they know about themselves and only write based on what others say about them. People also naturally write favorably about themselves.
:There are [[WP:PROUD|good reasons to not want an article]] about yourself. I suggest that you go on about your career as if you had never heard of Wikipedia; if you truly meet the criteria for an article, someone independent of you will eventually write one. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:54, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:GisPiano34|GisPiano34]]: Adding to @[[User:331dot|331dot]]'s advice, there's always Bandcamp, SoundCloud...and, if you're lucky enough at RequestWiki, Miraheze. (Coming from someone who's waiting for the day that latter service reintroduces [[mw:Extension:Score|Score]] in its lineup.) --[[User:Slgrandson|Slgrandson]] <small>([[User talk:Slgrandson|How's my]] [[Special:Contributions/Slgrandson|egg-throwing coleslaw?]])</small> 00:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 15:25, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Tedwardhering ==
{{Lafc|username=Tedwardhering|ts=15:25, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Benefit Corporations for Good}}
Our page submitted is NOT "unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view" and we would like to contest this immediate deletion. How can we effectively contest this? We're a legitimate business organization, as clearly outlined in all of our facts and references, and confused why this has occurred and we're unable to get to our page to contest it, the chat box doesn't work and we have no avenue to connect with Wikipedia. [[User:Tedwardhering|Tedwardhering]] ([[User talk:Tedwardhering|talk]]) 15:25, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:@[[User:Tedwardhering|Tedwardhering]]: I assume you mean [[Draft:Benefit Corporations for Good]]? That has been deleted already. I've just had a look at it, and it was indeed pure promotion, with no evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]] per the relevant guideline [[WP:NCORP]].
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
:You also don't seem to have made the paid-editing-disclosure required by our T&Cs. I'll post a message on your talk page with instructions. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Hello team,
:{{u|Tedwardhering}} The legitimacy of your business is not at issue. The issue is if your business meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable business]]. Wikipedia is not a place for businesses to tell about themselves, their offerings, and what they do- that is considered promotional here, you don't need to be actively soliciting customers or selling something. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about a business, not what it wants to say about itself. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 15:51, 30 April 2025 review of submission by BodhiHarp ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=BodhiHarp|ts=15:51, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Voiceless_linguolabial_nasal}}
My draft was rejected because:Also, it's wasbest aboutto aavoid soundexternal thatlinks didn'tin occurthe inbody anyof languagesan article, sounless whatnecessary. shouldSee Ithe dopage with[[WP:External it?links]]. [[User:BodhiHarpSungodtemple|BodhiHarpSungodtemple]] ([[User talk:BodhiHarpSungodtemple|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 1504:5124, 3029 AprilAugust 2025 (UTC)
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
:As far as Wikipedia is concerned, there's nothing more you can do, the draft was rejected. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 17:09, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Jgiambattista ==
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jgiambattista|ts=17:09, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Keystone_School}}
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I am hoping to get assistance in requesting that someone edit this page. Since I am not an unbiased writer, I would like to have the page reviewed/edited by someone else so that it will be approved. How can I go about doing this? I have taken a look at the "Edit Request Wizard" but am unsure if I can use it since my page is currently still a draft.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Jgiambattista|Jgiambattista]] ([[User talk:Jgiambattista|talk]]) 17:09, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
= August 29 =
:You need to click the "Submit your draft for review!" button, located in the lower right corner of the box at the top of your draft, to formally submit it. Before you do, I would suggest you see [[WP:REFB|Referencing for beginners]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:19, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
== 1801:5829, 3029 AprilAugust 2025 review of submission by HelpfulEditorPersonHyperbolick ==
{{Lafc|username=HelpfulEditorPersonHyperbolick|ts=1801:5829, 3029 AprilAugust 2025|draft=Draft:AJimmy Thief"Ninja" Among the TreesChaikong}}
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
Sabaa Tahir has written a series of books and graphic novels in the An Ember in the Ashes series. 3 of the 4 novels in this series have Wikipedia entries. There are 2 graphic novels in the same series, with a 3rd untitled graphic novel having been announced. I just submitted an article for the first of these graphic novels by this New York Times best selling author. Sabaa Tahir is a well respected author, having been favorably compared to George R.R. Martin and J.K. Rowling. When an established author publishes a book, there should be no question about the worthiness of including an article about that book. If Stephen King publishes a new book, does anyone have to prove that the book is noteworthy, or is it enough that Stephen King is the author? The real question is, why haven't these articles already been created? A Sky Beyond the Storm was published in 2020 -- no article. A Thief Among the Trees was published in 2020 -- no article. A Spark Within the Forge was published in 2022 -- no article! [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 18:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] neither of the sources you cited are useful. One is just the book itself which is not needed and the other is Amazon which is commercial site selling the book so not a reliable source. See [[WP:NBOOK]] for the notability guidelines which is usually met by in-depth critical reviews of the book by reputable sources. If you look at [[An Ember in the Ashes]], you will see several sources, some verifying it was a bestseller such as the New York Times, others are reviews and awards. Not that you need that many but you do need at least two or three qualifying sources. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:15, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::Now read the plot summary for An Ember in the Ashes, where someone clearly copied and pasted (or paraphrased) the book jacket blurb. It's not clear that whoever wrote that plot summary has even read the book. I visited Wikipedia specifically to read about A Thief Among the Trees only to find no article. I have read the book. I have provided a concise, 1-page summary of the plot of that 144 page book. My article is about the book itself, so the book itself is the main source of information for my article. It is self-evident that the book is qualified. You can read the sources cited in An Ember in the Ashes for the same justification you just claimed you need. I mentioned Sabaa Tahir's entry on Wikipedia multiple times. Is your position that Wikipedia itself is an unreliable source? [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 19:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::Correct "Wikipedia itself is an unreliable source" see [[WP:NBOOK]] for the criteria. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 19:29, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::By this logic, any reference published on Wikipedia is therefore an unreliable source, so you have given me an impossible task. In the meantime, people would like to be able to read about this book. [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 19:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::No; Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source, but Wikipedia contains reliable sources. Sources should be examined by readers. The article text itself may contain inaccuracies or vandalism not reflected in the provided sources. Usually, articles are reasonably accurate, but it's not guaranteed. See [[Wikipedia:General disclaimer|the general disclaimer]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] I just searched for sources but it does not appear the related graphic novels received critical coverage like the first few in the series. All the reviews I found were a brief summary, then a blurb or sentence which is not enough. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:45, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::But there might be enough for an article about A Sky Beyond the Storm, if you are interested. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:48, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::If you just want to publicize the book, you should use social media or other website with less stringent requirements. Wikipedia is the last place to write about a topic, not the first. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::I wanted to read about the book at Wikipedia, but no article is available. You are being unreasonable and it smacks of racism and sexism toward a New York Times Bestselling author. I'm not trying to publicize the book. I had questions about the themes and the characters in the book and I wanted to learn more about it. You have lost your way if you don't understand that you are being ridiculous about this. [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 19:48, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] I just left you a warning. Do not launch baseless attacks on editors. Everything 331dot has stated is factual and how Wikipedia works. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::::I note that no one has anything to say about the quality of the plot summary in the entry for An Ember in the Ashes. [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 19:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::[[An Ember in the Ashes]] has 42 sources, your draft has none. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 20:03, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::And how do you rate the quality of the plot summary for An Ember in the Ashes? My article references An Ember in the Ashes, which has 42 sources. [[User:HelpfulEditorPerson|HelpfulEditorPerson]] ([[User talk:HelpfulEditorPerson|talk]]) 20:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::The problem you're encountering here is that it doesn't matter what An Ember is like - if it's good, needs fixing, should be deleted - because your draft isn't about that book. If you think the plot summary needs to be updated, you're [[WP:FIXIT|encouraged to do it yourself]]. We are looking only at your draft, and what reviewers are seeing is a lack of [[WP:NOTABLE|notability by Wikipedia standards]].
:::::::::::What you are trying to do is to show the book is notable. You do this by finding at least three sources that match the triple criteria in [[WP:42]], and then summarizing what they say. Have a look at [[WP:NBOOK]] also for some further pointers, and [[WP:RSPSS]] for a list of sources we consider reliable and unreliable. If you can't find sources that meet all three WP:42 criteria, it's too soon for an article and we'll have to wait until some reviews come out. I hope that gives you a better idea of why your draft has not (yet?) been accepted, and you can look for suitable sources now you know exactly what you need. [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 05:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I don't know your race or your sex or gender, nor is the race or gender of the author relevant. I understand that you may be frustrated, but try to listen to what more experienced people are telling you. There are criteria to meet and you have not demonstrated that this book meets them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:58, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:::"{{tpq|It is self-evident that the book is qualified.}}" It is very much not, it is entirely dependent on what [[WP:RS|reliable]] and [[WP:IS|independent]] sources have to say ''about'' the book. If those sources simply don't exist, then it is unlikely it will meet [[WP:NBOOK]] at all. <span style="font-family: Garamond; font-size:1.2em">[[User:Sophisticatedevening|<span style="color: purple">''Sophisticatedevening''</span>]]🍷<sup>[[User talk:Sophisticatedevening|<span style="color: purple">''(talk)''</span>]]</sup></span> 19:44, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 21:55, 30 April 2025 review of submission by Scarlettrosewulber3842 ==
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Scarlettrosewulber3842|ts=21:55, 30 April 2025|draft=Draft:Mr. Harrah}}
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Why was it rejected? [[User:Scarlettrosewulber3842|Scarlettrosewulber3842]] ([[User talk:Scarlettrosewulber3842|talk]]) 21:55, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
:It was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. The reason was left by the reviewer, your draft is completely unsourced. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a topic, it is a place to summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] choose on their own to say about a topic. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
:Please don't use AI to write a draft for you. [[User:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: purple">CoconutOctopus</span>]] [[User talk:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: pink">talk</span>]] 22:40, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
= May 1 =
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
== 10:57, 1 May 2025 review of submission by Micprymu ==
:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Micprymu|ts=10:57, 1 May 2025|draft=User:Micprymu/sandbox}}
What to change to be approved for publishing? Sorry but I don't understand what I need to do. Thanks. [[User:Micprymu|Micprymu]] ([[User talk:Micprymu|talk]]) 10:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Micprymu|Micprymu]]: you have to show that this game is [[WP:notable|notable]], although I'm pretty sure it isn't. Notability per [[WP:GNG]] requires significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and independent. Your draft cites no such source, and in it you say that sources probably don't exist, either.
:What is your relationship with this game? I've posted a conflict-of-interest query on your talk page, please read and respond to it. Thanks, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:42, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1311:2632, 129 MayAugust 2025 review of submission by NyandaINewacctowork ==
{{Lafc|username=NyandaINewacctowork|ts=1311:2632, 129 MayAugust 2025|draft=Draft:Timoth_MayalaTrinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
Because this is my first time to make a submission of an article and I need proper guidance in editing the draft. [[User:NyandaI|NyandaI]] ([[User talk:NyandaI|talk]]) 13:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
:Hello, @[[User:NyandaI|NyandaI]], and welcome to Wikipedia. I will give you some guidance, though it is probably not the guidance you thought you wanted: {{User:ColinFine/PracticeFirst}}. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:00, 29 August 2025 review of submission by GeorgeHav ==
:Redundant work. Article stays since months at [[Timoth Moses Mayala]]. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fernklang|Fernklang]] ([[User talk:Fernklang#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fernklang|contribs]]) </small>
{{Lafc|username=GeorgeHav|ts=12:00, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:FlightSimExpo}}
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 14:30, 1 May 2025 review of submission by Jpp2621 ==
::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jpp2621|ts=14:30, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:William_H._Prescott_Elementary_School}}
:::I needwould helptalk establishingmuch secondaryless about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] forsay thisabout articleit. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:Jpp2621331dot|Jpp2621331dot]] ([[User talk:Jpp2621331dot|talk]]) 1423:3018, 129 MayAugust 2025 (UTC)
::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==
:@[[User:Jpp2621|Jpp2621]] we can't help you find sources. That is something you should do before creating a draft as it should summarize what secondary sources say about the school. Please see [[WP:Your first article|Your first article]] and [[WP:BACKWARD]]. I can tell you that elementary schools rarely meet the notability criteria unless it has historical significance such the building being listed at [[National Register of Historic Places]]. Also, the draft is written like it's the school's website, serving to promote it, rather than a neutral encyclopedia article. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 14:48, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
== 15:56, 1 May 2025 review of submission by Alex114721 ==
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
{{Lafc|username=Alex114721|ts=15:56, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Bar Pizza}}
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I am requesting assistance, or a rereview of the article I have written about Bar Pizza. I added more sources after being declined the first time. I'd like to point out the Beach Pizza article that is posted, that is another style of pizza that is popular where I am from. I followed similar resources to what that page has, while also providing more information about the topic of Bar Pizza. I hope someone will be able to point me in the right direction of getting to the point of approval. [[User:Alex114721|Alex114721]] ([[User talk:Alex114721|talk]]) 15:56, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
== 17:25, 29 August 2025 review of submission by FurretSuperFan ==
:If you want another review, just resubmit the draft, but you shouldn't do so withhout changes to address prior reviews. The "where to find" section should be removed, the article shouldn't advertise the pizza. The statement about blue collar workers is unsourced. It's not the pizza that was put in a hall of fame, but a producer of the pizza. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:08, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=FurretSuperFan|ts=17:25, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Greatest_Idol}}
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
== 17:24, 1 May 2025 review of submission by FLYX SOAR ==
{{Lafc|username=FLYX SOAR|ts=17:24, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Jim_Segrave}}
I reviewed the five pillars and am unsure why this biography is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia [[User:FLYX SOAR|FLYX SOAR]] ([[User talk:FLYX SOAR|talk]]) 17:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
https:Because it reads like his personal website//www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:331dotFurretSuperFan|331dotFurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:331dotFurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:5825, 129 MayAugust 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
== 17:54, 1 May 2025 review of submission by 154.192.213.225 ==
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=154.192.213.225|ts=17:54, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Vensh_Sayani}}
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
Sir, Hope you rejected on Notability Bases. Byt if Don't mind , could please explain how can i improve it ,i am ready to add more third oart , reliable, independent citations to the draft:vensh sayani. [[Special:Contributions/154.192.213.225|154.192.213.225]] ([[User talk:154.192.213.225|talk]]) 17:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Jetsonesque ==
:There's nothing you can do as it rejected and has been deleted numerous times previously, often because of [[WP:socks|socks]] and [[WP:block evasion|block evasion]] which includes editing as an IP. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 18:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jetsonesque|ts=18:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
== 18:02, 1 May 2025 review of submission by FLYX SOAR ==
{{Lafc|username=FLYX SOAR|ts=18:02, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Jim_Segrave}}
I'd like to have this re-reviewed...how can I re-submit? [[User:FLYX SOAR|FLYX SOAR]] ([[User talk:FLYX SOAR|talk]]) 18:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
:@[[User:FLYX SOAR|FLYX SOAR]] it's been reviewed three different times by three different reviewers and is rejected, meaning it will no longer be considered you so cannot resubmit it. However, if you want yet another review, I agree with the reject and would have done the same. There is nothing that suggests this person can meet the [[WP:NBIO|notability criteria]]. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 18:08, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please note that I have rejected [[Draft:Jim Segrave: CEO of flyExclusive]] on the same grounds. Please do not create duplicate submissions. Gaming the system is severely frowned upon. [[User:Spiderone|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 18:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:And I have just redirected [[Draft:CEO Jim Segrave]] to the first draft. Creating and submitting a third draft when two drafts have been rejected is [[WP:DE|disruptive]]. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 19:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
= August 30 =
== 18:22, 1 May 2025 review of submission by FLYX SOAR ==
{{Lafc|username=FLYX SOAR|ts=18:22, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Jim_Segrave:_CEO_of_flyExclusive}}
Why would this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Dichter) be approved and this draft not be? Please give me a list of actionable items I can accomplish to get this published. [[User:FLYX SOAR|FLYX SOAR]] ([[User talk:FLYX SOAR|talk]]) 18:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been rejected under two different titles. It really is the end of the line. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 18:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:That an article exists does not mean it was "approved" by anyone. This process has not always existed, and is not required of all users. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:11, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|FLYX SOAR}} [[Kenny Dichter]] was [[User:Jéské Couriano/A brief history of AfC|never drafted]]. (While there are moves to/from draftspace in the page history, those moves don't appear to be intentional.) —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|FLYX SOAR}} And while we're at it, I'm going to go over your sources list. Refer to [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode]]:
::* We can't cite https://www.flyexclusive.com/ ([[WP:SIGCOV|website]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|homepage]]) and even if we could, it and anything else on that ___domain doesn't help for [[WP:Notability|eligibility]] ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]).
::* https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/04/18/flyexclusive-jim-segrave-private-jet.html is [[HTTP 404|404-compliant]].
::* We can't use https://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/aircraft-propulsion/business-aviation-people-watch-2025 ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). [[Listicle]] with perfunctory entries.
::* https://board-of-trustees.ecu.edu/wp-content/pv-uploads/sites/121/2023/04/Athletics-and-Advancement-Committee.pdf doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]], [[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Only mentions of him are in agenda item headers, where he is listed as Committee Vice Chair. Nothing in the PDF discusses him.
::* https://businessnc.com/jim-segrave-flies-high/ seems fine.
::* Nothing PR Newswire puts out helps for eligibility ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]) as they only ever publish press releases.
::* https://simpleflying.com/flyexclusive-feature-private-jet-charter/ is borderline. Two relatively skimpy paragraphs in an article [[WP:RSCONTEXT|otherwise about flyExclusive]]. Coverage of the firm is not coverage of the man.
::* The Forbes link is 404-compliant. (It redirects to the Forbes homepage while acknowledging the 404.)
::* https://simpleflying.com/flyexclusive-volato-q3-financial-results-2024/ doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Quotable, no discussion of him.
::* https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/how-aircraft-fractional-ownership-works-biggest-players-1236164754/ [[Ditto mark|" " " " (" "). ", " " " ".]]
::* https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/149029-uss-flyexclusive-adds-first-challenger-300/ is 404-compliant.
::* https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/10/22/flyexclusive-hq-pilot-training-kinston-nc-budget.html/ is 404-compliant.
::* https://simpleflying.com/flyexclusive-guide-2024/ is borderline, but somehow has even ''less'' than the first Simple Flying source. I would say this is a no.
::* https://elitetraveler.com/leaders-in-luxury/jim-segrave-flyexclusive-on-being-part-of-a-larger-cause is again borderline. Despite being ostensibly about him, it has less info about him specifically than the first Simple Flying source. Once again, I would reject this source.
::* https://www.barrons.com/articles/with-an-po-on-the-horizon-flyexclusive-is-looking-to-reach-a-new-altitude-df36b07c/ doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Interview. The lede is also [[WP:RSCONTEXT|primarily about flyExclusive]].
::* We can't use https://www.corporatejetinvestor.com/people/jim-segrave/ ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). We don't cite tag/name searches (or search results full-stop). You need to point to ''specific'' articles on that ___domain.
::* https://www.flightglobal.com/business-aviation/flyexclusive-chief-sees-strong-year-ahead-after-ipo-milestone/160373.article/ doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Quotes up the wazoo, but no discussion of Segrave.
::* We can't use Givesmart ([[WP:AFFILIATE|online storefront]] - and yes, sites soliciting donations count).
::* https://www.neusenews.com/index/2024/5/4/mayor-hardy-#gsc.tab=0 is 404-compliant.
::* https://images.businessnc.com/wpcontent/uploads/2024/05/BNC_POWERLIST2024_compressed.pdf is 404-compliant (Redirects to homepage without acknowledging 404).
::There's practically nothing here to work with. [[WP:Biographies of living persons|This is fatal to the draft.]] —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
== 18:52, 1 May 2025 review of submission by Sophia Enoch ==
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
{{Lafc|username=Sophia Enoch|ts=18:52, 1 May 2025|draft=Draft:Miracle Godsent Nwachukwu}}
Dear reviewer,
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
I'm seeking a second opinion regarding the Draft: Miracle Godsent Nwachukwu
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
Miracle Godsent Nwachukwu is the only young under 30 Nigerian interior designer, that has been awarded by the interventional property awards for best private residence in Lagos state Nigeria. This is asides other notable awards he has received too.
Thanks very much.
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
The current draft includes multiple independent, reliable secondary sources that provide significant coverage:
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
- More than 2 published editorial interview with business world News paper, Business day news paper and other Blogs inclusively- The first two mentioned interviews where done in a verified telecommunication companies in Nigeria and widely recognized by both local and international bodies.
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
These are cited inline and meet the standard for notability under WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. However, recent reviews have dismissed them, and it is difficult to point out what exactly is the issue with the draft.
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==
I want to respectfully point out that corrections should be more specific(if possible outlines and calling attention to specific places where adjustments needs to be carried out, so that editing would be seamlessly done accordingly.
{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Working professionals like Miracle Godsent Nwachukwu, who have built legitimate, ongoing careers, deserve accurate, well-cited pages—because when someone Googles them (interior designer), a Wikipedia article is often the first result. It’s not about hype—it’s about clarity, presence, and record.
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==
I’d appreciate any guidance or re-review by an experienced editor. Thank you sincerely for your time and expertise.
{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
[[User:Sophia Enoch|Sophia Enoch]] ([[User talk:Sophia Enoch|talk]]) 18:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please do not use AI to communicate. The majority of your sources are not @[[WPUser:ISTanja0615|independentTanja0615]] ofI the subject, and the rest are only trivial mentions (not [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]]). Articles need to be supporteddeclined bywithout reliableprejudice, independentyou and secondary sources to prove they a [[WP:N|notable]] as Wikipedia defines it. Righthave now youre-submitted draftwhich doeswas notthe demonstratecorrect that, and has been declined for youthing to continue working on itdo. <span style="fontbackground-familycolor: GaramondRoyalBlue; fontborder-sizeradius:1.2em 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:SophisticatedeveningQcne|<span style="color: purpleGhostWhite">''Sophisticatedevening''qcne</span>]]🍷''' <supsmall>[[User talk:SophisticatedeveningQcne|<span style="color: purpleGhostWhite">''(talk)''</span>]]</supsmall></span> 1811:5857, 131 MayAugust 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Sophia Enoch|Sophia Enoch]] also read [[WP:Yes, it is promotion]]. A bit harsh but the "Promotion is promotion no matter what you call it" is true from a Wikipedia perspective. [[User:S0091|S0091]] ([[User talk:S0091|talk]]) 19:06, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much.
:::I accept your feedback wholeheartedly, can you please tell me the things to remove so it won’t look like this is a promotion, because that’s not what the aim is supposed to be. Please advise on our I can fix this.
:::Thank you in anticipation. [[Special:Contributions/102.88.110.64|102.88.110.64]] ([[User talk:102.88.110.64|talk]]) 19:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you very much.
::There are no AI generated text here, all text was written by me.
::secondly I would appreciate if you take a closer look at the sources because they a very much independent and very notable. Interviews are not trivial mentions, awards on the international property awards are not trivial mentions, this and more are not trivial mentions.
::Again kindly check before responding. It would help a great deal.
::Thank you for your patience and understanding . [[Special:Contributions/102.88.110.64|102.88.110.64]] ([[User talk:102.88.110.64|talk]]) 19:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Interviews are the person speaking about themselves, and as such are not an independent source. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:12, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
:::It looks to me that you copied from [[Special:GoToComment/c-Fixthisbs-20250425044700-Second_opinion_requested_–_Meghan_McLeod_draft|someone else's post here]] and adjusted who it was talking about; it was not all written by you. [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|talk]]) 03:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::::Yup, they forgot to change [[WP:NACTOR]] from the question they copied-and-pasted from elsewhere. Ah, the dangers of trying to Mad Libs a comment! [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 22:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 21:31, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Matthewbyver ==
= May 2 =
{{Lafc|username=Matthewbyver|ts=21:31, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Matthew_Byver}}
My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 05:06, 2 May 2025 review of submission by Kendallmay ==
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Kendallmay|ts=05:06, 2 May 2025|draft=Borrador: Charlie_Kurd}}
Necesito ayuda con mi borrador, debido a que me está dando error a pesar de que puse fuentes confiables, me sigue dando error. [[User:Kendallmay|Kendallmay]] ([[User talk:Kendallmay|talk]]) 05:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Users here cannot help with drafts not on the English-language Wikipedia. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 0621:3340, 230 MayAugust 2025 review of submission by Shrabaniexp69.255.14.163 ==
{{Lafc|username=Shrabaniexp69.255.14.163|ts=0621:3340, 230 MayAugust 2025|draft=DraftUser:Experience.comWiseman2025/sandbox}}
has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello, our draft [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Experience.com](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Experience.com) was recently declined due to lack of notability. We want to improve it and need help identifying whether our current sources are sufficient or if we need better ones. Could an experienced editor please guide us on what to fix? Thank you! [[User:Shrabaniexp|Shrabaniexp]] ([[User talk:Shrabaniexp|talk]]) 06:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Who is "we" user accounts are strictly single person use, the draft is just advertising what your company does. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 06:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
== 08:14, 2 May 2025 review of submission by Abhia4321 ==
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Abhia4321|ts=08:14, 2 May 2025|draft=Draft:Shivrajj_J.D._Khuman}}
your advice and creating
[[User:Abhia4321|Abhia4321]] ([[User talk:Abhia4321|talk]]) 08:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft was rejected – it won't be considered again. '''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns|''she/her'']] · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]] · [[m:User:ClaudineChionh|global]])</small> 08:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
= August 31 =
== 10:45, 2 May 2025 review of submission by Gopaaldhussa ==
{{Lafc|username=Gopaaldhussa|ts=10:45, 2 May 2025|draft=Draft:Dhussa_&_Gaind_Clan}}
Internet is not having much information about the Punjabi clans especially Dhussa & Gaind. I searched wikipedia about that but I couldn't find much information. I have shared what best I could get.
Which other type of citation is required please let me know so that I can research and share about it. [[User:Gopaaldhussa|Gopaaldhussa]] ([[User talk:Gopaaldhussa|talk]]) 10:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
:@[[User:Gopaaldhussa|Gopaaldhussa]]: your draft cites two sources, neither of which is acceptable. If the content of this draft isn't coming from reliable sources, where ''is'' it coming from?
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
:Source do not need to be online, but they do need to be reliable and independent, as well as ''published'' (no oral histories etc.). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:20, 2 May 2025 review of submission by DavidKelly97 ==
{{Lafc|username=DavidKelly97|ts=11:20, 2 May 2025|draft=User:DavidKelly97/sandbox}}
Why was i rejected? [[User:DavidKelly97|DavidKelly97]] ([[User talk:DavidKelly97|talk]]) 11:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==
:@[[User:DavidKelly97|DavidKelly97]], Because there is no indication of [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)|notability]] or being a [[Wikipedia:Notability (sports)|notable athlete]]. If you were to find multiple Independent reliable sources, it would be accepted. [[User:CF-501 Falcon|'''''CF-501''''' Falcon]] ([[User talk:CF-501 Falcon|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/CF-501_Falcon|contribs]]) 11:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
== 14:27, 2 May 2025 review of submission by 2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D ==
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D|ts=14:27, 2 May 2025|draft=Draft:Chris_Makos}}
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for reviewing this submission. This is the first time I've done this before and am looking for any assistance understanding why the submission was denied. I'm happy to make necessary edits, however looking for any guidance to fulfill Wikipedia's policies. Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D|2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D]] ([[User talk:2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D|talk]]) 14:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==
:Hi, the reviewer left you the reason at the top of the draft. I might also suggest that you see [[WP:REFB|Referencing for beginners]], as well as the [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]] policy. In short, every substantive piece of information about a living person needs a source. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
:Your draft has only primary sources, which do not establish notability. Per the general notability guideline [[WP:GNG]], we need to see multiple secondary sources which are reliable and independent, and which provide significant coverage of the subject.
Hello,
:You also must cite your sources inline next to the information they support, not merely list them at the end. See [[WP:REFB]] for advice. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:34, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
:::Thank you DavidKelly97. Forgive the question, but the independent links I provided showing professional status, Team USA status, and college success do not warrant notable athlete? Again, please forgive the question I am just trying to make sure I provide the right information. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D|2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D]] ([[User talk:2600:4040:7C5B:FC00:CCBD:2876:145F:9F5D|talk]]) 18:11, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::::I've moved your comment here as you wrote in the wrong area in response to a different person talking about a different article.
::::These things you list do not automatically make an athlete notable. Please consult [[WP:NSPORT]] for notability requirements specific to athletes. What little additional information you provide about Makos is generally poorly sourced. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 22:06, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
== 15:08, 2 May 2025 review of submission by TheBoatyMcBoatFace ==
{{Lafc|username=TheBoatyMcBoatFace|ts=15:08, 2 May 2025|draft=Draft:DKAN_(open_data_platform)}}
I have been going back and fourth on this article for months. When I included more sources, I was asked to remove them.
- DKAN is a [Digital Public Good](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_public_goods), as [endorsed by the United Nations](https://www.digitalpublicgoods.net/who-we-are#:~:text=a%20multi%2Dstakeholder%20UN%2Dendorsed%20initiative). Source: https://www.digitalpublicgoods.net/r/dkan
- The official list of hospital quality rankings, among much other data, is on DKAN. https://data.cms.gov/provider-data/
- Singapore Open Data is on DKAN: https://www.undp.org/policy-centre/singapore/dkan
- USDA Ag digital commons uses DKAN https://agdatacommons.nal.usda.gov/
- Oak Ridge National Laboratory is using DKAN: https://www.thedroptimes.com/40093/civicactions-partners-with-oak-ridge-national-laboratory-dkan-open-data-project
I've been told to add more content, then remove that content, and now that the subject isn't notable, even though incredibly important data is made available via this platform. What is the next step for this? [[User:TheBoatyMcBoatFace|TheBoatyMcBoatFace]] ([[User talk:TheBoatyMcBoatFace|talk]]) 15:08, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
:{{ping|TheBoatyMcBoatFace}} Refer to [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode]]:
:* https://statescoop.com/open-data-platform-dkan-changes-hands/ doesn't help with [[WP:Notability|eligibility]] ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). For an article about DKAN it hardly says anything about it, being more about CivicActions.
:* https://www.data.gov.jm/story/using-jamaicas-open-data-portal doesn't help with eligibility ([[WP:PRIMARY|gov't document]]). Same applies to https://opendatatoolkit.worldbank.org/en/data/opendatatoolkit/technology (even though it's an NGO, we largely have to treat anything from those in much the same fashion as government documents since they're also primary sources).
:* [[WP:MEDIUM|We can't use Medium (no editorial oversight).]]
:* We can't use https://trends.builtwith.com/cms/DKAN ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Contextless graph, no real discussion of DKAN.
:* https://www.drupal.org/case-study/improving-the-online-experience-for-medicare-beneficiaries-with-wecms doesn't help with eligibility ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Post written by CivicActions on Drupal's own website; this loses three outta two.
:* We can't use https://www.thedroptimes.com/40093/civicactions-partners-with-oak-ridge-national-laboratory-dkan-open-data-project ([[WP:SPS|unknown provenance]], [[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). This is an attempt to launder a press release as legitimate news.
:* https://data.cambridgeshireinsight.org.uk/about#:\~:text=Research%20Group.-,WHAT%20IS%20DKAN%3F,-DKAN%20is%20the doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]], [[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Perfunctory explanation of how the publishing organisation uses DKAN.
:* https://www.drupal.tv/index.php/external-video/2024-08-15/unlocking-transparency-open-data-management-and-metadata-standards-drupal is [[HTTP 404|404-compliant]].
:Nothing you cite is any good. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 16:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== Blurt Nickelodeon film ==
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
I would like assistance on improving the [[Draft:Blurt!]], it's a Nickelodeon film from 2018. I got the IMDb sources off. I rather try to finish what I started rather than letting the draft expire. Technically, I don't think there is a time limit though. I done drafts before, one time it was [[WP:Too soon]], eventually it was necessary enough. [[User:Cwater1|Cwater1]] ([[User talk:Cwater1|talk]]) 15:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= September 1 =
:Drafts stay active as long as they are edited at least once every six months. We don't really get into co-editing here; you might try the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Film]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::Okay, understood. Thank you. [[User:Cwater1|Cwater1]] ([[User talk:Cwater1|talk]]) 22:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1505:2122, 21 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by 2607:F2C0:E589:E4C0:7934:B453:DACB:A82B濵島 ==
{{Lafc|username=2607:F2C0:E589:E4C0:7934:B453:DACB:A82B濵島|ts=1505:2122, 21 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Sabre_LimitedYOHO_BREWING}}
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure why I am getting rejected. I was wondering if I could get a bit of help. Any kinds of suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated. [[Special:Contributions/2607:F2C0:E589:E4C0:7934:B453:DACB:A82B|2607:F2C0:E589:E4C0:7934:B453:DACB:A82B]] ([[User talk:2607:F2C0:E589:E4C0:7934:B453:DACB:A82B|talk]]) 15:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:As you say, this draft has now been rejected, not merely declined, which means the end of the road. There is insufficient evidence of notability, and not only that, there isn't even any real claim of noteworthiness; this draft just describes what seems like quite a [[WP:run of the mill|run of the mill]] business. Wikipedia is not a business directory where mere existence would justify inclusion, there needs to be something about a business that clearly distinguishes it from its peers. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:02, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Refer to [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode]]:
:* We can't use https://whattheythink.com/news/107642-industry-leaders-share-insight-selecting-implementing-print-mis/ ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Clearly-labeled press release that Sabre effectively had a hand in by sponsoring the paper at its heart.
:* We can't use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px3mCAwfJ2A ([[WP:COPYVIO|unknown provenance]]) and even if we could it wouldn't help for [[WP:Notability|eligibility]] ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Interview of company principal on a non-verified YouTube channel. (YouTube videos can only be cited if (1) the video is produced by an outlet we would consider to have editorial oversight and (2) said video is on the outlet's ''verified'' channel.)
:* We can't use Microsoft AppSource ([[WP:AFFILIATE|online storefront]]).
:* We can't use https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbestechcouncil/2022/01/04/substitute-information-for-inventory-to-improve-your-supply-chain/ ([[WP:SPS|no editorial oversight]]). Anything written by Forbes Council members is a pay-to-publish op-ed.
:* https://configurepricequote365.com/about-us/ doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]).
:* We can't use https://www.gestisoft.com/en/blog/top-dynamics-partner-in-canada ([[WP:SPS|no editorial oversight]]). This reads like black-hat SEO in the form of blatant [[native advertising|native advertizing]], not helped that it's written by a {{tq|VP of Marketing}} and Gestisoft itself is written about in the article.
:* We can't use https://www.directionsna.com/conferences-and-events/directions-north-america-2025/speakers ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Principal in a photo gallery, practically nothing else about Sabre.
:You have nothing that we can use here. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 16:07, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1711:1914, 21 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Arch2spadeAmir Gull1 ==
{{Lafc|username=Arch2spadeAmir Gull1|ts=1711:1914, 21 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Eslam_SamirAmir_Gull_Timuri}}
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
could you advise on how to get approved, and what is exactly missing from the article
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
best regards,
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
[[User:Arch2spade|Arch2spade]] ([[User talk:Arch2spade|talk]]) 17:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
:This article has been rejected and won't be able to be resubmitted. Please read [[WP:AUTO]] and [[WP:BIO]] before trying to write any more articles. [[User:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: purple">CoconutOctopus</span>]] [[User talk:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: pink">talk</span>]] 17:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 19:22, 2 May 2025 review of submission by Mytroshyn ==
{{Lafc|username=Mytroshyn|ts=19:22, 2 May 2025|draft=Draft:Virtual_Product_Placement}}
I'm not native speaker and do not understand some parts, like comment:
Too much jargon, such as "populate the placement spots with content", and many other examples. Please write in plain English.
Exactly this part is taken from a science article: https://jossams.smiu.edu.pk/index.php/JOSSAMS/article/view/27/21
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
Also, it is written that the article should be written in a neutral point of view, I do not write things like from my point of view, or similar. al text was written in such a style, if you find something, could you point out these parts
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
About sources, I have different varieties from blogs to science articles (around 5), How many should there be?
:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
About essay format, I provide a lot of history that it facts, and some comparisons, that is taken from other resources, not my mind
Could you help me to understand how to fix it? [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 19:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:We already have an article on this topic here [[Product placement]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 21:29, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::Virtual product placement, is similar but different. if you know programming language it is kind of like difference between c and c++ [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 10:22, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, you copied that sentence directly from the source. In fact, you copied an entire paragraph from that journal article and used that as the opening to the article. Since it's been nominated for speedy deletion due to copyright infringement, it seems that these were not the only copyright infringements. This is absolutely unacceptable.
:While many contributors to English Wikipedia are not native speakers of English, including some highly respected administrators, creating an article in English from technical sources requires some fluency in the language. If you still want to contribute to English Wikipedia, I would suggest you do smaller, simpler edits, that are more suited to your level of ability. I don't mean this as an insult; I speak three other languages besides English on a conversational level, but I'm definitely not suited to create Wikipedia articles in those languages on their respective Wikipedia versions. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 21:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::Ok I will rephrase, it is not a problem, I thought that it will be better to use such phrases or whole paragraph from article, like citation, I put link to this article.
::About languages I fluent in 2, level C1 in another 2 and level A1 in another one, so no insult )
::I work in this area and though it would be good addition for Wikipedia.
::My English level between C1 and C2, i do not have a problem with speaking(I was speaker at 3 besides last year), reading or writing but it is not fluent in my understanding, maybe I'm wrong [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 10:29, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] I make fixes and rephrasing for content, should I just resubmit it ? [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 13:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::You can't fix copyright violations by just changing around a handful of words within sections. And the other fundamental problems with this draft remain; the sourcing is very hit and miss and it's very essay-like. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 14:36, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] as I know copyright violations is avoiding if you rephrase it or change ad some parts, like patent if you have a patent for hamburger that is sound like meat product between two slice of bread, you could create a new patent that will sound from the top slice of bread, slice of chees, some meat product and slice of bread, this patent would be fine according patent lawyer. Also from report is like following:
::::Violation unlikely
::::33.8%
::::similarity
::::what other
::::Essay like a lot of article on Wikipedia have essay like format or even worst, with one or two links
::::I describe a technology in a way that people could understand, yes I make mistakes that I willing to fix, and partially fix. If I write more technical for not being like essay than it is Jargon, in other way it is essay how to write then ? [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 15:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::::No, as CoffeeCrumbs says, you can ''not'' fix copyright issues by changing some words or phrases, and neither can you fix plagiarism issues in that way. Please read [[WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASING]]. What a plagiarism checker tool says is not proof – such tools can only give you a rough estimate which is often quite incorrect. --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 16:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::ok, lets it be deleted and no time will be wasted. I do not see any point of vasting any time for wikipedia, if wikipedia do not want article I will waste any time for it [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 04:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{yo|Mytroshyn}} [[Jargon]] is words or expressions that are hard or impossible to understand for people who are not specialists; such expressions are fine when you are talking to other specialists, but when you communicate with other people you need to adapt your language. (A surgeon might talk about [[pulmonary atresia]] during a surgery, but when she meets the patient's family she might say "the heart couldn't pump the blood out to the body".) The draft consists of jargon to a large extent. That is not odd since it was copied from various sources written for specialists. When you write for Wikipedia, you have to write for a general audience (and can't copy from sources, because that is a copyright violation as well as plagiarism). --''[[User:Bonadea|bonadea]]'' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bonadea|contributions]] [[User talk:Bonadea|talk]]</small> 09:56, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::ok I see, looks like I work in this area a lot a some Jargons I do not see. [[User:Mytroshyn|Mytroshyn]] ([[User talk:Mytroshyn|talk]]) 10:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 2115:0554, 21 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by DR LION SAI VENKAT89.101.68.143 ==
{{Lafc|username=DR LION SAI VENKAT89.101.68.143|ts=2115:0554, 21 MaySeptember 2025|draft=DraftUser:Lion_Sai_VenkatMichael_miron123/sandbox}}
Ijust havea submittedfamous severallad timeswho butwants alwaysa rejectingWikipedia canaccount iand knowdose thenot perfecthave reasonany orfane please help me summation [[UserSpecial:DR LION SAI VENKATContributions/89.101.68.143|DR LION SAI VENKAT89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:DR LION SAI VENKAT89.101.68.143|talk]]) 2115:0554, 21 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Please abandon this effort. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves. Please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. Our articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the subject. The draft was rejected, and will not be considered further. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
::{{deleted}} G11. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 06:27, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:DR LION SAI VENKAT|DR LION SAI VENKAT]]. One of the things that make it so difficult to write a Wikipedia article about yourself is that {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 16:31, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Mguenego.usparis ==
{{Lafc|username=Mguenego.usparis|ts=16:31, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Ström_Paris}}
Hello! I'd like to know if my draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:Mguenego.usparis|Mguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:Mguenego.usparis|talk]]) 16:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
= May 3 =
== 0018:0222, 31 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by 201.141.123.32Changingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=201.141.123.32Changingwormhole|ts=0018:0222, 31 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Alvaro_Dias_HuizarV-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
Alvaro Dias Huizar (Q71312229)Wikidata [[Special:Contributions/201.141.123.32|201.141.123.32]] ([[User talk:201.141.123.32|talk]]) 00:02, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
:Did you have a question, IP editor? [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 03:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. This chess player does indeed have [[d:Q71312229|a Wikidata entry]], but [[d:WD:N|Wikidata's notability rules]] are much looser than [[WP:N|the same rules on English Wikipedia]]. '''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns|''she/her'']] · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]] · [[m:User:ClaudineChionh|global]])</small> 04:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
== 00:15, 3 May 2025 review of submission by MissLizy1223 ==
{{Lafc|username=MissLizy1223|ts=00:15, 3 May 2025|draft=Draft:Peter_Glanz_(writer/director)}}
Hello! I submitted this draft months ago and wanted to see whether there was anything I could do to expedite its review. Thank you so much for your help. [[User:MissLizy1223|MissLizy1223]] ([[User talk:MissLizy1223|talk]]) 00:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
:Hi @[[User:MissLizy1223|MissLizy1223]], we have a long wait for reviews at the moment as you'll see in the big yellow box on top of your draft. You are welcome to work on it while you wait, as great drafts get approved quickly (and poor ones usually get declined quickly). My suggestion to you would be to read through [[WP:BLP]] and [[WP:CREATIVE]] so you know what you need to do to show Glanz is [[WP:NOTABLE|notable by Wikipedia standards]], and then [[WP:42]] so you can assess your sources against the triple criteria there. Only sources which meet all three criteria can show notability, and you want at least three of them.
:Fewer good-quality sources is always better than lots of poor-quality sources, so consider going through your draft and removing or replacing any poor-quality sources. Keep in mind however that a biography of a living person needs to have every single fact supported by a source - one source per fact is usually plenty, so you could consider removing some sources when you have multiple supporting a single sentence. Happy editing! [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 04:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 01:57, 3 May 2025 review of submission by Rozziv ==
*I fixed your header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rozziv|ts=01:57, 3 May 2025|draft=Requesting review of article: Jamal DNB}}
Hi! I’ve submitted an article titled [[User:Rozziv/Jamal DNB]] and would greatly appreciate a review when someone has a moment. It’s fully referenced with independent sources and written in a neutral tone. Thanks in advance for your help! [[User:Rozziv|Rozziv]] ([[User talk:Rozziv|talk]]) 01:57, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 19:11, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Don Wanyama Off ==
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Jamal DNB}} - I've moved this to draftspace; it was on your userpage, which is not a suitable place for a draft.
{{Lafc|username=Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:11, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
:We currently have a long wait for review, as it says on top of your draft in that big yellow box. Making the draft the best it can be increases the chances that someone will come along and approve it quickly. You're welcome to continue working on it while you wait! [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 04:01, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Rozziv|Rozziv]] {{declined}} and in need of substantial work. Please check before doing that work that the subject passes [[WP:NMUSICIAN]]. If they do not pass then there is no value in doing any further work 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 06:31, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Rozziv|Rozziv]] Using a Large Language Model does not create an acceptable article. {{declined}} for other reasons, but please use your own words. AI can hallucinate, and often generates garbage. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 06:39, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 07:14, 3 May 2025 review of submission by HedyVolf ==
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=HedyVolf|ts=07:14, 3 May 2025|draft=Draft:Bare_photography}}
:* [[WP:QUACK]] - SPI filed [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 19:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I do not understand the submission declined. It follosw all of Wikipedia’s requirements for notability, neutrality, structure, and verifiability. I’ll integrate global historical precedents, theoretical analysis, exhibitions, and contemporary figures. All references are be formatted using proper citation templates and include external links for visual documentation. This is my first article, I followed Notes on Wikipedia Eligibility
1. Notability: The article draws on multiple reliable and secondary sources, including museum websites (Philbrook Museum, MoMA), peer-reviewed journals, and recognized photography institutions.
2. Verifiability: Inline citations and external links provide verifiable references.
3. Neutrality: The text describes bare photography historically, theoretically, and with contemporary examples, avoiding promotional language or undue bias.
4. Reliability of Sources: The references include academic publishers (e.g., Routledge, Palgrave Macmillan, Oxford), reputable arts organizations, and established media outlets.
= September 2 =
Could you please help me how to make it better and right? Thank you soooo much!!!!!!!! [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 07:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:You don't appear to have submitted it for review? You seem to have cresated the draft with a decline already in place? [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 07:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::I have added the correct submit template for you. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 07:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Thank you so much, I am total newbie :( I appreciate your help! [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 08:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]]: did you use an LLM to create your draft? If so, could you please tell us which one? Thanks, -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::I use only GPT o1-pro to help with formatting ("coding", how to use external links in text,...) and sticking with wiki rules. To not make a mistake. And scisite for more sorces. Text is mine, llm just did thediting formatting/editor job. [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 08:46, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks. The 'coding' was exactly why I asked. Your first edit had code that I've not seen before. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] Please do not create requests here using a LLM. We wish to speak to you, not to it. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 08:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Using AI to format sources is a BIG mistake, I picked four of your sources at random and none of them work, they are dead links. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::weird, I checked them all. Ok! Newbie idiot, I will improve. Thanks for your time!!! [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 09:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::could you be so kind and tell me which are not right? I checked them and everything is ok. So maybe mistake in == External links == section directly below your == References == heading by matching the <references /> or something like that? [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 09:22, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::::::These to start with...
* https://artinbox.cz/zara-wildmoons-petr-jedinak-2022
* https://www.articlegalaxy.com/lander
* https://www.newyorkerlife.com/2025/03/22/larry-clark-tulsa-cultural-watershed/
* https://www.everydayprojects.org/everyday-africa-five-years-of-documenting-life
[[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 09:34, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 01:00, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Asf132 ==
:Thanks! This is really old article, I should hade check the links again, I found alternative for every one of them. Thanks! [[User:HedyVolf|HedyVolf]] ([[User talk:HedyVolf|talk]]) 10:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Asf132|ts=01:00, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Rao Mulpuri}}
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 08:55, 3 May 2025 review of submission by Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas ==
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas|ts=08:55, 3 May 2025|draft=CHAUDHARY AKHTAR ABBAS}}
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
HELLO FRIENDS,
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 02:01, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Elesha1188 ==
WE COMPLETED DRAFT WITH PICTURE LAST MONTH , WE ISSUE UNDERTAKE THAT PICTURE WAS TAKEN BY OUR OWN PHOTOGHARAPHAR AND ARTICLES WORDING IS TURE AND CORRECT , WE SUBMIITED FOR REVIEW TWICE , WE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND FOR REJECTION OF MY PAGE.
{{Lafc|username=Elesha1188|ts=02:01, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
NOW WE ARE REQUESTING FOR HELP DESK FOR THE GUIDE LINE , WHAT WE DO TO FOR UPLOADING ON WIKIPEDIA/ REGARDS [[User:Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas|Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas]] ([[User talk:Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas|talk]]) 08:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas|Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas]]: please don't SHOUT, it's unpleasant.
:Hello, @[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]].
:{{courtesy link|User:Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas/sandbox}}
:{{HD/WINI}}
:Your draft was declined (not 'rejected') because it is completely unreferenced, with no evidence of notability, as it states in the decline notice.
:Please also note that autobiographies are very strongly discouraged, see [[WP{{User:AUTOBIO]]. --ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:DoubleGrazingColinFine|DoubleGrazingColinFine]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazingColinFine|talk]]) 0809:59, 32 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas}} (ec) Please don't yell at us(use all capital letters). You didn't properly link to your draft, it is located at [[User:Chaudhary Akhtar Abbas/sandbox]]. It is essentially your resume; a Wikipedia article about you needs to summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have chosen on their own to say about you.
:It is inadvisable- though not totally forbidden- for people to write about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. Only a single person should have exclusive access to your account, you may not share access. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1204:3304, 32 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Sij08Goldface2009 ==
{{Lafc|username=Sij08Goldface2009|ts=1204:3304, 32 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Need clarification on notability sources for Mahmoud Valanejad – subject avoids interviewsUser:Goldface2009/sandbox}}
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello. My draft article about Mahmoud Valanejad was declined due to a lack of sufficient references. Could you please clarify what kind of sources are exactly required, and whether you can provide examples of acceptable ones? Also, would foreign sources that provide analysis or detailed reports about his works be sufficient? Please note that Mr. Mahmoud Valanejad generally does not give interviews and avoids direct media presence. Thank you for your guidance.
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Sij08|Sij08]] ([[User talk:Sij08|talk]]) 12:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:Courtesy link [[Draft:Mahmoud Valanejad]] Interviews are not reliable independent sources so wouldn't help here. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 12:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Sij08}} We're looking for [[WP:Reliable sources|in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-Valanejad news/scholarly sources that discuss them at length, are written by identifiable authors, and are subject to fact-checking and other forms of editorial oversight]]. Interviews fail the "independent-of-Valanejad" prong and wouldn't be acceptable, though what is more damning for the draft's chances is the {{tq|avoids direct media presence}} bit. That implies that there's pretty much no sources available to [[WP:Notability|base an]] [[WP:Biographies of living persons|article]] [[WP:NPERSON|off of]], and that [[WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing|an article would be counter-productive here]] as he clearly wants to maintain his privacy. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 15:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 12:40, 3 May 2025 review of submission by 82.8.141.222 ==
{{Lafc|username=82.8.141.222|ts=12:40, 3 May 2025|draft=Draft:New_Love_(The_Doodlebops_song)}}
Whitgift School [[Special:Contributions/82.8.141.222|82.8.141.222]] ([[User talk:82.8.141.222|talk]]) 12:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
:This draft was already rejected and will not be published. I would have nominated it as a hoax along with a couple of your other drafts with content you made up (although your latest appears to actually be real), but I really needed to go to bed ad the time and forgot about it in the morning. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 14:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 13:19, 3 May 2025 review of submission by ModalNode ==
{{Lafc|username=ModalNode|ts=13:19, 3 May 2025|draft=Draft:Optigram}}
Hello. This submission has been declined with the comment "the sources don't mention Optigram or are only passing mentions". I just double checked and there was only one source that didn't mention either Optigram or his real name Manuel Sepulveda. This occurs in the paragraph about his work before adopting the name Optigram and I added that source only to corroborate the statement about the Grime albums bringing dubstep to a wider audience, but I have added a source to confirm that he was the album's designer as well.
== Requesting Review for Draft:Dhiman (Caste) ==
I did carefully read the notability guidelines and as he has been featured several times by independent writers on prominent sites I thought that showed significant coverage. I was wondering if the issue might be that most of those writers interviewed him for their articles? I noticed in the talk section for the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability) that someone has asked "shouldn't the fact that reputable media outlets choose to interview a person (in depth, about themselves, as opposed to on a topic they are an expert in) be evidence of their notability?" but there wasn't a reply so I'm not sure what the consensus is about that.
Hello! I have created and submitted a draft article titled '''[[Draft:Dhiman (Caste)]]'''. I have done my best to follow Wikipedia's guidelines regarding notability, neutrality, and sourcing.
As for some of the sources being passing mentions it's true that a few of them are just passing, but I thought they were useful just to confirm a fact stated in the Wikipedia entry even if the online source doesn't expand on the topic in question. Should those kinds of corroborations not be included in articles? If not, is it better to simply remove those aspects of the Wikipedia article?
I would appreciate it if an editor could take a look and provide feedback or review it for publication. Thank you for your time and help!
Thanks for any advice you can offer. [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 13:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]] ([[User talk:Indiauser1971|talk]]) 08:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:The comment was "'''some''' of the sources don't mention Optigram or are only passing mentions" (emphasis added). It doesn't say that ''none'' of them contain in-depth material about him.
:But the purpose of a citation is to provide verification of a statement about the subject, so if a source does not mention the subject, it is rarely of any value as a source, and should usually be removed. If a source contains a passing mention of the subject, it may possibly provide verification for an uncontroversial factual statement in the article (and should be removed if it doesn't), but it cannot contribute to establishing that the subject is [[WP:notable|notable]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:25, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::Sorry, I hadn't intended to suggest that the comment was saying that '''none''' of the sources mention Optigram, I thoughtlessly omitted the word '''some''' from the comment. I only meant to say that I had checked and only found one that didn't. I have removed that citation from the article and simplified the sentence so as not to require it.
::As for your comments about citations sometimes being useful for verification, yes that's what I thought too, so it's good to have that clarified. None of those passing mentions were meant to establish notability, they were only to verify the facts in the article. There are plenty of other citations within the article which do establish notability, in my opinion. Do you feel that's still disputable? [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 19:32, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
:You have submitted it for review and it is pending. Please be aware of the rules when editing about social groups in India- I will post them to your user talk page- probably you shouldn't have created this draft at all- but if it is accepted, you cannot edit it again until your account is extended-confirmed(30 days old with 500 edits) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
: There are currently 23 references in the draft. I have checked a sample of six of them. None of those six was significant coverage in an independent source; they included sites associated with "Optigram" in one way or another (e.g. a business exhibiting his work), interviews with him, etc. Can you list three references which contain substantial coverage in ''independent'' reliable sources? If you can, that will be useful evidence of notability. [[User:JBW|JBW]] ([[User talk:JBW|talk]]) 10:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]].
::Two of the most substantial features on his work do still incorporate interview quotes from him. I guess that's inevitable when the subject is alive. They are a 4-page printed feature in the German magazine, Groove (reference number 2 on the Optigram page); and a feature in Resident Advisor which includes a lot of commentary on his work (reference number 3). Reference number 21 from HardFormat only includes commentary and does not include any interview content, but it is a shorter feature.
:Separately from the point 331dot made about Indian social groups, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::Reference number 9 is a published book by the Design Museum to coincide with their exhibition, but there is no online version of the book https://designmuseumshop.com/products/electronic-from-kraftwerk-to-the-chemical-brothers-exhibition-catalogue. I would imagine that you'd have to pass a pretty high bar to have your work featured in a major institution such as London’s Design Museum and I felt that in itself would show notability.
::When I first started considering writing a Wikipedia article for Optigram I did actually look at three existing entries about other designers whose work was shown in the same exhibition, and used the kinds of references that were used in those entries as a guide to what was acceptable. They were all references that either included interview content; were by institutions displaying their work; or were brief mentions that simply verified a fact. So I'm not sure I understand why those kinds of references aren't acceptable in this instance. [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 12:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Just for your reference, this is the exhibition in question on the main Design Museum site: https://designmuseum.org/whats-on/talks-courses-and-workshops/electronic-from-kraftwerk-to-the-chemical-brothers-multisensory-tour [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 12:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
::::Sorry wrong link, I meant this one: https://designmuseum.org/exhibitions/electronic-from-kraftwerk-to-the-chemical-brothers [[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]] ([[User talk:ModalNode|talk]]) 12:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Hello,again, @[[User:ModalNode|ModalNode]]. Wikipedia has thousands and thousands of articles which would not be accepted if they were submitted for review today - usually, created long ago before our standards had developed to where they are today. In an ideal world, people would go through these improving or deleting them, but that is not something that many volunteer editors want to spend time doing. If you want to mention a couple of those articles that you looked at, maybe somebody will look at them.
:::In the meantime, I suggest using only [[WP:good articles|good articles]] or [[WP:featured articles|featured articles]] as models.
:::See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
== 2010:5712, 32 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Iindmusician103.182.14.46 ==
{{Lafc|username=Iindmusician103.182.14.46|ts=2010:5712, 32 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Syed_FardeenEhtasham_Malik}}
HowCan toyou improveguide thisme articleon which words are promotional [[UserSpecial:IindmusicianContributions/103.182.14.46|Iindmusician103.182.14.46]] ([[User talk:Iindmusician103.182.14.46|talk]]) 2010:5712, 32 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
: {{U|Iindmusician}}, this is probably something you should have asked before resubmitting your draft '''10''' times. There is a lot of good advice that has been ignored, again, up to 10 times, that is already stated in the draft. [[User:HickoryOughtShirt?4|HickoryOughtShirt?4]] ([[User talk:HickoryOughtShirt?4|talk]]) 22:25, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
::fandom, Spotify, Apple music, IMDb, discogs, and Genius.com are NOT reliable independent sources, that leaves you with nothing to base an article on, time to [[WP:DROPTHESTICK]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 09:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
== 10:16, 2 September 2025 review of submission by 102.22.207.86 ==
= May 4 =
{{Lafc|username=102.22.207.86|ts=10:16, 2 September 2025|draft=Unite180}}
Article was declined. Any assistance possible with getting it approved and guidance on writing it better or removing references that seem problematic. [[Special:Contributions/102.22.207.86|102.22.207.86]] ([[User talk:102.22.207.86|talk]]) 10:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 0110:4555, 42 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Rennis970NeutralMMMUser ==
{{Lafc|username=Rennis970NeutralMMMUser|ts=0110:4555, 42 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Piquetero_PartyObjective_Platform}}
I tried to adjust this article multiples times to the feedback I got but apparently it's still not good enough – can someone help or tell me what exactly is not working? I just quoted external sources and took out everything that I think sounds like "advertisement". [[User:NeutralMMMUser|NeutralMMMUser]] ([[User talk:NeutralMMMUser|talk]]) 10:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I want to know if anything else is ok, in order to re submmit the post, [[User:Rennis970|Rennis970]] ([[User talk:Rennis970|talk]]) 01:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:You are making a common, but fundamental, mistake in that you are telling us what you want the world to know about your company. That is the wrong approach. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. Interviews, press releases, brief mentions, or the reporting of routine business activities does not establish notability. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:39, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:The draft has been accepted. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
== 0311:4859, 42 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Laser5918103.182.14.46 ==
{{Lafc|username=Laser5918103.182.14.46|ts=0311:4859, 42 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Clemens_BurdaEhtasham_Malik}}
ForCan thistell entry,why Ireject believethe thatarticle point 3 of [[WPSpecial:NACADEMIC]] is met via my election to the AAASContributions/103. Can you please revisit my submission? [[User:Laser5918182.14.46|Laser5918103.182.14.46]] ([[User talk:Laser5918103.182.14.46|talk]]) 0311:4859, 42 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:The subject is not [[WP:GNG|notable]] press releases are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 12:10, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 12:24, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Talha Sti ==
:It's inadvisable- thought not absolutely forbidden- for [[WP:AUTO|you to write about yourself at all]]- but if you intend to proceed, the main issue is that the sources you have provided do not seem to be [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Talha Sti|ts=12:24, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Talha_Sti/sandbox}}
::@[[User:Laser5918|Laser5918]] However, it does seem that you pass the point you mention. I agree with @[[User:331dot|331dot]] on the references, but I believe this draft is acceptable if tagged tor the correct improvements. This I have {{accepted}} the draft and am in process of flagging inadequacies 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 11:21, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Why my article is not publishing what is wrong in it [[User:Talha Sti|Sti]] ([[User talk:Talha Sti|talk]]) 12:24, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft lacked the coding needed to submit it- this is provided if you use the [[WP:WIZARD|Article Wizard]] to create and submit a draft.
== 11:59, 4 May 2025 review of submission by Bhushanpkg ==
:However, your draft was throughly promotional and has been deleted. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. Interviews, press releases, brief mentions, or the reporting of routine business activities does not establish notability.
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{{Lafc|username=Bhushanpkg|ts=11:59, 4 May 2025|draft=Draft:Kirtiraj_Gaikwad_(professor)}}
How I can improve my artcke draft?
[[User:Bhushanpkg|Bhushanpkg]] ([[User talk:Bhushanpkg|talk]]) 11:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
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== 1213:0245, 42 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by BhushanpkgKay3233 ==
{{Lafc|username=BhushanpkgKay3233|ts=1213:0245, 42 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Kirtiraj_Gaikwad_(professor)APAC_Tower}}
Hello, I noticed the article on APAC Tower was rejected for notability. I would like guidance on whether the coverage I have from independent sources is sufficient, or what additional sources would be needed.
How i can improve the article draft so that it will published.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kirtiraj_Gaikwad_(professor) [[User:Bhushanpkg|Bhushanpkg]] ([[User talk:Bhushanpkg|talk]]) 12:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
I have few questions.
:@[[User:Bhushanpkg|Bhushanpkg]]: you could certainly start by cutting down that ''very'' long list of publications considerably. Wikipedia is not meant to be a comprehensive catalogue of someone's entire output. If you feel the need to mention any publications, focus on a small number of the most noteworthy ones only.
1. Do the awards (Fitwel 3-Star 2025, Thailand Property Award) count as notable recognition for the building?
:Other than that, you need to show how this person meets the [[WP:NPROF]] notability guideline for academics. Anything else is arguably superfluous at this stage.
2. Do independent news reports from Bangkok Biz News, RE Talk Asia, and AustCham Thailand establish enough secondary coverage?
:I have posted a conflict-of-interest (COI) query on your talk page, please read and respond to it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:41, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
3. Would mentioning prominent multinational tenants (Asia Pulp & Paper, Mazda Sales, TOA Electronics) help demonstrate significance?
:Hello, @[[User:Bhushanpkg|Bhushanpkg]]. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else. Almost nothing that the subject or their associates have said is relevant. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, [[User:Kay3233|Kay3233]] ([[User talk:Kay3233|talk]]) 13:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 12:28, 4 May 2025 review of submission by OffxLethal ==
{{Lafc|username=OffxLethal|ts=12:28, 4 May 2025|draft=Draft:OffxLethal}}
Can you please give me more details on how to improve it? [[User:OffxLethal|OffxLethal]] ([[User talk:OffxLethal|talk]]) 12:28, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:OffxLethal|OffxLethal]]:Awards thisonly draftcontribute hasto beennotability rejectedif andthe willaward notitself bemerits consideredan further.article, --like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]. [[User:DoubleGrazing331dot|DoubleGrazing331dot]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing331dot|talk]]) 1215:3237, 42 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:OffxLethal|OffxLethal]], see my reply to the previous section, [[#12:02, 4 May 2025 review of submission by Bhushanpkg]]. Also note that [[WP:autobiography|writing about yourself]] is very strongly discouraged, and very very few people who try it manage to get their drafts accepted. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1214:5513, 42 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Ajlr555TurnipShadow ==
{{Lafc|username=Ajlr555TurnipShadow|ts=1214:5513, 42 MaySeptember 2025|draft=DraftUser:Spacy_(Tatsuro_Yamashita_album)TurnipShadow/sandbox}}
WhyI've aredrafted relevantsomething albumsbut thecant onlysee articleshow thatI shouldmove beit madeto on the site when there are other albums of less relevance on the sitebe thatconsidered arefor accepted?publish [[User:Ajlr555TurnipShadow|Ajlr555TurnipShadow]] ([[User talk:Ajlr555TurnipShadow|talk]]) 1214:5513, 42 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:TurnipShadow|TurnipShadow]]: I've added the submission template, it has a blue 'submit' button with which you can send it for review when you're ready. I've also moved it into the draft name space, at [[Draft:Jools’ Law]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:There are a lot of older articles on the project that pre-date the current community standards for notability; if submitted today many would not be accepted. [[User:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: purple">CoconutOctopus</span>]] [[User talk:CoconutOctopus|<span style="color: pink">talk</span>]] 13:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you very much [[User:TurnipShadow|TurnipShadow]] ([[User talk:TurnipShadow|talk]]) 14:43, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:There are nearly seven million articles on Wikipedia. [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is not a valid justification for publishing an article. Allowing low-quality articles because other low-quality articles exist only degrades the quality of Wikipedia. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 21:50, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1415:0355:24, 42 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by Lsb997Psymba ==
{{Lafc|username=Lsb997|ts=14:03, 4 May 2025|draft=Draft:Luke_Laulilii}}
Hi, what can I do to improve this article? Other articles submitted by myself in past have used identical sources and been approved, what is different with this article and what can be done to improve it? [[User:Lsb997|Lsb997]] ([[User talk:Lsb997|talk]]) 14:03, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Psymba|ts=15:55:24, 2 September 2025|link=Mike_Abrams_(psychologist)
:@[[User:Lsb997|Lsb997]]: rugby players must satisfy the general notability guideline [[WP:GNG]], which requires significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that are reliable and independent. This draft cites mostly primary sources, passing mentions, or routine match reporting. [https://www.zerotackle.com/the-rising-star-committed-to-changing-wests-tigers-fortunes-218014/ This source] probably comes closest to meeting the GNG standard, but it alone isn't enough; we typically require three. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:27, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
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== 21:54, 4 May 2025 review of submission by Jennie.Gonzo.33 ==
{{Lafc|username=Jennie.Gonzo.33|ts=21:54, 4 May 2025|draft=User:Jennie.Gonzo.33/sandbox}}
I’m not sure why it says submission deleted. This is my first article and trying to do this correctly [[User:Jennie.Gonzo.33|Jennie.Gonzo.33]] ([[User talk:Jennie.Gonzo.33|talk]]) 21:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:You tried to submit the draft for review, but ended up not doing it correctly and declining it yourself at the same time. [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|AlphaBetaGamma]] <small> ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/report any mistakes here]]) </small> 22:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
This entry was moved to draft space by OwenX who acknowledged its improvement after several weeks of edits and added citations, writing "I see you've made significant improvements to the draft, both in content and in sourcing" [[User talk: OwenX#Review for Dr. Mike Abrams (psychologist)]]. I invite anyone to suggest or make improvements or who may feel it is ready to return as an entry where it previously was for several years. [[User:Psymba|Psymba]] ([[User talk:Psymba|talk]]) 15:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 22:56, 4 May 2025 review of submission by Eck28 ==
{{Lafc|username=Eck28|ts=22:56, 4 May 2025|draft=Draft:Opera Populaire : The Phantom of The Opera}}
Why was this declined? [[User:Eck28|Eck28]] ([[User talk:Eck28|talk]]) 22:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
:AndYou howhave cansubmitted Iit make itfor soreview thatand it cannotis bepending. [[User:Eck28331dot|Eck28331dot]] ([[User talk:Eck28331dot|talk]]) 2217:5701, 42 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
::Not copying and pasting Chat GPT-written text would be a good place to start. [[User:HickoryOughtShirt?4|HickoryOughtShirt?4]] ([[User talk:HickoryOughtShirt?4|talk]]) 23:33, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
== 17:56, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Mamaazhi'iwe ==
= May 5 =
{{Lafc|username=Mamaazhi'iwe|ts=17:56, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Mishiiken Tribe of Mackinac Island}}
I am trying to create a page for the Mishiiken Tribe of Mackinac Island. The first time I submitted it was tagged as appearing to be original research. The second time it was tagged as being written by AI. I did try to use ChatGPT to put things in order and properly format everything, as I find it difficult. Can you tell me what exactly is wrong with it now or how I can fix it? [[User:Mamaazhi'iwe|Mamaazhi'iwe]] ([[User talk:Mamaazhi'iwe|talk]]) 17:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Mamaazhi'iwe|Mamaazhi'iwe]]. Have you checked the output to make sure that ChatGPT has not made up any content, or stated anything that is not verified by the sources? A Wikipedia article is <u>only</u> a summary of what existing reliable published sources state: nothing more. When you use an AI chatbot to help with drafts they have a habit of adding what we call "[[Wikipedia:No original research|original research" or "synthesis]]": information which is ''not'' supported by existing reliable published sources.
== 09:08, 5 May 2025 review of submission by GaganJai ==
:I would recommend going through the draft and carefully check every line for any evidence that ChatGPT has added any original research or synthesis. Likewise, if you have included any original research or synthesis, please remove this and focus on only summarising what the existing reliable published sources have stated. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=GaganJai|ts=09:08, 5 May 2025|draft=Draft:Mafatlal_Industries}}
I have quoted various sources of national newspapers. Mafatlal is more than 100 Year old company and article is not a promotional article. It has direct simple information about a listed entity. I have shared various videos including TedX talks and national newspapaer links, All of them were news and not Press Releases. Why it is getting rejected? [[User:GaganJai|GaganJai]] ([[User talk:GaganJai|talk]]) 09:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:As an ex-employee you first need to properly disclose your conflict of interest. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 09:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
:There needs to be more than "direct simple information". A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company and [[WP:ORG|what makes it a notable company]]. Basic information [[WP:ORGDEPTH|is not indepth coverage]].
:A good chunk of the article is about the founder of the company, not the company itself. This should be removed to focus on the company. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:15, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
== 1018:4851, 52 MaySeptember 2025 review of submission by CsburdickJrpartlowiv ==
{{Lafc|username=CsburdickJrpartlowiv|ts=1018:4851, 52 MaySeptember 2025|draft=Draft:FreebirdWilliam (grooming"Bill" brand)Kirk}}
Thanks for your recent review of my Article Page! So that I can meet the mark this next time, can you please tell me what I should add or edit before resubmitting. Any flags and recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks in advance. [[User:Jrpartlowiv|Jrpartlowiv]] ([[User talk:Jrpartlowiv|talk]]) 18:51, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi all, my draft is being declined because it's not "adequately supported by reliable sources". However, I've provided citations from several reliable sources like Good Housekeeping, AskMen, Esquire, Men's Health, NBC News, a TV show, and others.
:@[[User:Jrpartlowiv|Jrpartlowiv]] Fundamentally you have not proven how this person meets [[Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion (people)]]. All your sources are primary and as such they do not "count" towards proving how this person meets that criteria. We're looking for significant coverage in multiple secondary sources that cover this person. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:15, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I'm just not sure what else to do; what am I missing?
== 19:08, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Jcgaylor ==
If I look at similar pages (like "Remington (personal care brand)" for example, they have none of this.
{{Lafc|username=Jcgaylor|ts=19:08, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:South Carolina Human Affairs Commission}}
Hi all! My first article draft ([[Draft:South Carolina Human Affairs Commission]]) is under review. I'd love to get some feedback or critiques on what I did right/wrong, and how I can make it better!
Thank you for your help. [[User:CsburdickJcgaylor|CsburdickJcgaylor]] ([[User talk:CsburdickJcgaylor|talk]]) 1019:4808, 52 MaySeptember 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Jcgaylor|Jcgaylor]]. You've submitted the draft for review - but you will note that the top of the draft states ''This may take 7 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,139 pending submissions waiting for review.'' <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Csburdick}} Please disclose your connection with the company per [[WP:PAID]] and [[WP:COI]]; you claim to have personally created and personally own the copyright to the company logo.
::Right... which is why I said it is under review and am seeking feedback on how to improve it in the meantime... [[User:Jcgaylor|Jcgaylor]] ([[User talk:Jcgaylor|talk]]) 19:15, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Your draft actually says very little about the company; it mostly describes its product offerings and where its products have been mentioned. That might merit the products of the company an article, but not the company itself. For the company itself to merit an article, there must be coverage of the company itself that [[WP:ORGDEPTH|goes beyond basic coverage]] and goes into detail about what makes the company important/significant/influential, or in Wikipedia parlance, [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:55, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
:::But, that's what a review is for: to give feedback on how to improve it. You're asking for a ''pre''review, which we don't really do. However, what might make it easier for reviewers to review the draft is for you to highlight on the Draft Talk Page the three (and only three) best sources that each meet: independent of the commission (not based off their website, or a press release, or an interview with staff, or any kind of primary source); devote significant transformational coverage to the commission (some kind of critical analysis, debate, discussion, commentary etc). <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:22, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:I would add that, if you are a company employee, it is very unwise from a legal standpoint for the company to permit an employee to own the copyright to its logo. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:58, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
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