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== 0603:4912, 928 August 2025 review of submission by 2001:9E8:E1DA:900:1970:C2E7:816F:49EDIanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=2001:9E8:E1DA:900:1970:C2E7:816F:49EDIanResearch|ts=0603:4912, 928 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ulrich_B._KampffmeyerZigZagZurich}}
CanHi youeditors, pleasejust removewanted theto middleask namewhat "B."I can do to improve my draft and write it in thea lemma.way Forthat 'Ulrich_Kampffmeyer'is therealigned willwith showWikipedia's upguide enoughand relevancetone. Thank you.! [[SpecialUser:Contributions/2001:9E8:E1DA:900:1970:C2E7:816F:49EDIanResearch|2001:9E8:E1DA:900:1970:C2E7:816F:49EDIanResearch]] ([[User talk:2001:9E8:E1DA:900:1970:C2E7:816F:49EDIanResearch|talk]]) 0603:4912, 928 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
:It doesn't matter at this stage what the draft title is, as it will need to be changed anyway if and when the draft is accepted. I'll make a note of the proposed title in the draft. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:52, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1005:1328, 928 August 2025 review of submission by 2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10AndeHuang ==
{{Lafc|username=2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10AndeHuang|ts=1005:1328, 928 August 2025|draft=Draft:Shelby_MackayWinmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Needs assistance. Toronto musician. Full disclosure =roommate [[Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10]] ([[User talk:2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|talk]]) 10:13, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
:If you are {{u|Canadasmusiclover}} or the creator of the draft, remember to log in when posting. What assistance are you seeking? If you're the roommate of this person you should formally disclose a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:15, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::• I am not receiving compensation for creating an article, nor is   writing an article a part of my job.
::• The practice of editing or creating articles about yourself, your family or friends- your organization''', your clients '''your employers', or 'your competitors' is '''strongly discouraged'''. I am confirming the O.G editor is my roomate.
::• I will login - for some reason occasionally using the same laptop there is problems with ip - i have contacted the user who helped the first time . Bushranger was the person,  i think..
::• I am posting a  '''suggestion that an experienced editor take control at this point due to an a.i mark that was warnted  but perhaps the ammeneded edits''' and '''sources''' on the article's talk page, or in a draft have fixed the a.i template?
::• I am asking anyb neutral, uninvolved, disinterested editors to '''review''' my suggestions. I highly '''Respect''' the volunteer community's time; I will avoid making protracted or repeated requests. [[Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10]] ([[User talk:2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|talk]]) 10:54, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Hello again, @[[User:Canadasmusiclover|Canadasmusiclover]]. It is very unlikely that another editor with "take control" of a draft you have created - not impossible, but unlikely. We all work on what we choose, and unless your subject particularly appeals to somebody, it's not going to happen.
:::The way to get your draft reviewed is by submitting it for review: we don't do pre-review reviews. If a reviewer thinks for whatever reason that they are not a "neutral, uninvolved, disinterested editor", they will simply not pick up that draft to review. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:04, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
*{{u|Canadasmusiclover}} I did not say that you were a paid editor. I said that you have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. You should formally disclose this on your user page, see [[WP:COI]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:31, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
**There should not be an issue if you edit using the account you made the other day, if you are who you appear to be saying you are on my talk page. Also, note that if you are editing the same pages as your roommate, not only does [[WP:COI]] potentially apply (as mentioned, COI, not [[WP:PAID]]), but [[WP:MEAT]] is something to be careful of. It's entirely fair for roommates to be validly editing together, but at the same time [[WP:BROTHER|it's a common excuse]] used by bad actors, so we have to be very cautious about it. - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|<span style="color: maroon;">One ping only</span>]]</sub> 17:00, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
**:Thank you, very well explained . [[Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10]] ([[User talk:2605:8D80:13B1:31D0:EC54:32AE:DDB2:5D10|talk]]) 19:04, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1006:2840, 928 August 2025 review of submission by Mihailonaca-photographer109.252.122.222 ==
{{Lafc|username=Mihailonaca-photographer109.252.122.222|ts=1006:2840, 928 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mihail_OnacaMaxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Hi,
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm having a bit of trouble understanding referencing for this page. If there's a Wikipedia author that would be kind enough to help me, I'd really appreciate it.
 
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
Thank you,
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
Mihail Onaca [[User:Mihailonaca-photographer|Mihailonaca-photographer]] ([[User talk:Mihailonaca-photographer|talk]]) 10:28, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:It's unwise- though not forbidden- for you to write about yourself, please see the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]]. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, and it is usually hard for people to set aside what they know about themselves and only write based on the content of independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Most of your sources seem to just document your work, not describe what the source sees as important/significant/influential about you as a photographer- in other words, how you are a [[WP:NARTIST|notable creative professional]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:31, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Mihailonaca-photographer|Mihailonaca-photographer]]. Please note that {{HD/WINI}}
:Comments on your assessment table:
:This means that in order to write about yourself successfully, you will need to first find ''independent'' articles about yourself, and then in effect forget everything you know about yourself, and write a summary of what those independent sources say about you - even if you think they are wrong.
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:Most people cannot do this.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
 
== 1112:2511, 928 August 2025 review of submission by Dinu78.150.201.nanjappa201 ==
{{Lafc|username=Dinu78.nanjappa150.201.201|ts=1112:2511, 928 August 2025|draft=Draft:Kandeelu_The_Ray_Of_HopeFusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi, wanted to know the status of my Wiki page which I tried creating. As this is my first page, I have tried to follow all guidelines set by Wikipedia and I really appreciate if you can help approve this.
 
The:Then moviethis wontopic thedoesn't Nationalmerit Awardan andarticle mayat peoplethis are asking for a Wiki page. Thank youtime. [[User:Dinu.nanjappa331dot|Dinu.nanjappa331dot]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa331dot|talk]]) 1112:2520, 928 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]]. You need to format your references correctly: you've got three, then 1 to 10, then 1 to 9 - which is all pretty confusing and none of them are in-line citations. Please format them all correctly by following the tutorial at [[Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1]]. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:34, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for writing back and also for sharing the useful link. I'm on it now! [[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa|talk]]) 11:35, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
::I have done all changes as suggested by you. May I request you to kindly review the draft now? Thank you! [[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa|talk]]) 13:20, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:::The draft is in the review queue, and will be reviewed whenever someone gets to it.<span id="Tenshi_Hinanawi:1754746079469:WikipediaFTTCLNWikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 13:27, 9 August 2025 (UTC)</span>
::::Thank you! [[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa|talk]]) 14:14, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
::May I request one of the editors to look at the draft? Thank you in anticipation. [[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa|talk]]) 08:11, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:::You have submitted it for review. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:13, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:May I request you to kindly check the revised draft? The movie won the National Award in India and tons of people are asking for a Wiki page. Hence the urgency. [[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]] ([[User talk:Dinu.nanjappa|talk]]) 07:13, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Dinu.nanjappa|Dinu.nanjappa]]: once again, the draft has been resubmitted and ''will be reviewed when a reviewer gets around to it''. Please be patient. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:18, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1314:0657, 928 August 2025 review of submission by CreedleakAras2025 ==
{{Lafc|username=CreedleakAras2025|ts=1314:0657, 928 August 2025|draft=Draft:BigmanyazRadio_Duhok}}
My page has recently declined. I'm wondering why? [[User:Creedleak|Creedleak]] ([[User talk:Creedleak|talk]]) 13:06, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:As it says on your talk page, the draft was declined because {{tq|This submission is not adequately supported by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].}} by {{noping|JuniperChill}}, and later deleted by {{noping|Jimfbleak}} as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Please note that all submissions must be [[WP:NPOV|neutral]] and be supported by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]].<span id="Tenshi_Hinanawi:1754745379618:WikipediaFTTCLNWikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User: Tenshi Hinanawi|Tenshi!]] ([[User talk: Tenshi Hinanawi|Talk page]]) 13:16, 9 August 2025 (UTC)</span>
:Anything that says it has no references- especially if [[WP:BLP|it's about a living person]] is a non-starter. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:46, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 14:37, 9 August 2025 review of submission by 96.79.183.81 ==
{{Lafc|username=96.79.183.81|ts=14:37, 9 August 2025|draft=Alberto White }}
Draft title is not taking entry of Alberto White
Would like to create Articles for creation.
Reference: www.NFL.com [[Special:Contributions/96.79.183.81|96.79.183.81]] ([[User talk:96.79.183.81|talk]]) 14:37, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I'm not sure what you're asking. You have created [[Draft:Alberto White]].
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:09, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
:Merely playing in a top-level league is no longer grounds for assumed notability. You also don't even give us bare URLs, making it impossible for us to actually read your sources. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 16:39, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 22:11, 9 August 2025 review of submission by Drsaidakhan ==
{{Lafc|username=Drsaidakhan|ts=22:11, 9 August 2025|draft=Draft:Salman_Khan_SK}}
Hello,
 
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
I recently had my draft Draft:Salman Khan SK declined for not meeting Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for music-related topics. The reviewer noted that my previous references did not provide significant coverage in independent, reliable, secondary sources.
 
Since then, I have added new sources that I believe meet the requirements:
 
HUM News (July 11, 2025) – “The unsung hero of TV dramas; SK Salman Khan and his musical journey” – A detailed, independent profile covering his background, body of work, and influence.
 
GTV News HD (June 12, 2025) – “Why is the life of music arrangers in Pakistan chaotic?” – An in-depth Urdu article including direct quotes, industry insights, and analysis of his role in the field.
 
IssueWire (April 2025) – “Music Director SK Embarks on Ambitious 100 Original Songs Project in 2025” – Coverage of his large-scale music project and its significance.
 
All three sources are independent, provide substantial coverage, and are not press releases or trivial mentions.
 
Could an experienced editor please review the updated draft and let me know whether these additions are sufficient to establish notability? I would also appreciate advice on any further improvements before resubmitting.
 
Thank you for your time and help.
 
Kind regards,
Drsadiakhan [[User:Drsaidakhan|Drsaidakhan]] ([[User talk:Drsaidakhan|talk]]) 22:11, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:The second one is mostly an interview with the subject. That's not independent. IssueWire is a platform for people and companies to make press releases. That's not independent.
:The first one is more ambiguous. There's no actual author credit and the parts that aren't quotes read a lot like AI and HUM has publicly embraced AI use. Much of it seems sourced from the subject. I wouldn't be comfortable sourcing a [[WP:BLP]] from that article. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 22:42, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 23:12, 9 August 2025 review of submission by Chrisexplorzs ==
{{Lafc|username=Chrisexplorzs|ts=23:12, 9 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mid Cities Mall}}
Why was my article declined? [[User:Chrisexplorzs|Chrisexplorzs]] ([[User talk:Chrisexplorzs|talk]]) 23:12, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
: '''Comment''' for other reviewers: this draft been substantially revised and re-submitted since this question was asked '''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns|''she/her'']] · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]] · [[m:User:ClaudineChionh|global]])</small> 01:35, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 10 =
 
== 01:42, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Newbamboo ==
{{Lafc|username=Newbamboo|ts=01:42, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:Enderman}}
I have translated a good article from the Chinese Wikipedia into this draft, and I ask for your help to review it, thank you very much. [[User:Newbamboo|Newbamboo]] ([[User talk:Newbamboo|talk]]) 01:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Newbamboo|Newbamboo]] You have submitted the draft for review, and it will be reviewed when someone with the interest and expertise comes along – see the note at the top of the submission saying that there are currently >1,100 drafts waiting to be reviewed. Also, as noted at {{slink|Help:Translation#Attribution}}, if you are translating from another language Wikipedia, attribution is '''required'''. You can add the attribution in a new edit summary by making a [[Help:Dummy edit|Dummy edit]], or one of us can do this for you, but we would need to know the name of the article in Chinese (FYI, I cannot read Chinese). '''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns|''she/her'']] · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]] · [[m:User:ClaudineChionh|global]])</small> 01:52, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]] I am the author of the Chinese Wikipedia article[https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9C%AB%E5%BD%B1%E4%BA%BA]. [[User:Newbamboo|Newbamboo]] ([[User talk:Newbamboo|talk]]) 02:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newbamboo|Newbamboo]] Thanks – I've added the attribution. '''[[User:ClaudineChionh|ClaudineChionh]]''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Editors' pronouns|''she/her'']] · [[User talk:ClaudineChionh|talk]] · [[Special:EmailUser/ClaudineChionh|email]] · [[m:User:ClaudineChionh|global]])</small> 03:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 04:21, 10 August 2025 review of submission by UnforgivingDolos ==
{{Lafc|username=UnforgivingDolos|ts=04:21, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:Prem_Poddar}}
I submitted a request to republish an article previously deleted under contested PROD, making changes before resubmitting, but it was declined again with the note that “some sources are primary and do not provide a secondary review-like reference” and that more reliable, secondary, independent sources with significant coverage are needed. I am unclear on exactly which references are considered primary and how best to replace or supplement them. I have already replaced academia.edu links with citations to published journal versions and improved formatting, but for some older career details (from the pre-digital era) it is difficult to find online sources. Could you clarify which parts need secondary sourcing and advise on how to handle verifiable but pre-digital information? [[User:UnforgivingDolos|UnforgivingDolos]] ([[User talk:UnforgivingDolos|talk]]) 04:21, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:UnforgivingDolos|UnforgivingDolos]]. To answer the last part of your question: you cite non-electronic sources the same way as you cite online sources: by giving the important bibliographic information such as title, author, date, publication, volume etc, and page number. {{tl|cite journal}} or {{tl|cite book}} will help you do this.
:Even for most online sources, a URL is a convenience for the reader, not a core part of the citation: the citation should have all the above, except possibly a page number if the copy cited is one which is unpaged. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:58, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:And to address the first part, anything written or published by Poddar or by his colleagues or by any organisation he is affiliated with, is almost certainly primary. {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:02, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you so much! Your explanation really helped me a lot. I have now added "secondary sources" as you suggested: book reviews by people non-related to the source person and citations of the book/chapter/article in other books/chapters. There was also a "citation needed" flagged against the note that the subject's D.Phil was under the supervision of Bhabha. It is a 1996 D.Phil - so the only way to validate this claim is to attach the thesis, where the supervisor is mentioned in the acknowledgements (records were not kept as it is now). Would that suffice? [[User:UnforgivingDolos|UnforgivingDolos]] ([[User talk:UnforgivingDolos|talk]]) 00:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 07:49, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Thunderlionhhh ==
{{Lafc|username=Thunderlionhhh|ts=07:49, 10 August 2025|draft=Phan Gia Nhat Linh}}
Please move my sandbox article to mainspace: User:Thunderlionhhh/sandbox → Phan Gia Nhat Linh [[User:Thunderlionhhh|Thunderlionhhh]] ([[User talk:Thunderlionhhh|talk]]) 07:49, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Thunderlionhhh|Thunderlionhhh]]: I won't move it to the mainspace, since it hasn't been reviewed and I've no idea whether it is ready to be published. I have, however, moved it into the draft space at [[Draft:Phan Gia Nhat Linh]], and also added the AfC submission tag. When you're ready, you can submit your draft for review by clicking on the blue 'submit' button. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 08:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::Many thanks for moving the page to the draft space and adding the AfC submission tag. I’ll work on improving the article and submit it for review once it’s ready. [[User:Thunderlionhhh|Thunderlionhhh]] ([[User talk:Thunderlionhhh|talk]]) 08:56, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Thunderlionhhh}} Per [[WP:CATDRAFT]], drafts normally should not exist in article categories, as they are not (yet) articles that are ready for our readers. I have invalidated the category syntaxes by converting them into internal links, check [[Special:diff/1305145292|changes in revision 1305145292]]. They will be automatically converted back into valid category syntaxes upon acceptance. Cc {{ping|DoubleGrazing|p=}}. [[User:1F616EMO|1F616EMO]] ([[User talk:1F616EMO|talk]]) 09:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 09:14, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 1F616EMO ==
{{Lafc|username=1F616EMO|ts=09:14, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:SaiDorSi}}
My draft, which was translated from the Chinese Wikipedia, was declined because it did not meet the [[WP:GNG]] standards. After a while, a Chinese Wikipedia contributor added two sources to the source article. I asked about whether the newly added sources would make this draft suitable for expansion on the English Wikipedia, but got no response. Can someone join the discussion at {{slink|User_talk:1F616EMO#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_SaiDorSi_(April_6)}} and give some advice? [[User:1F616EMO|1F616EMO]] ([[User talk:1F616EMO|talk]]) 09:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:30, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Jacquelinelove ==
{{Lafc|username=Jacquelinelove|ts=10:30, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:Shelby_Mackay}}
Please review the changes that have been made. Thanking you in advance for your time . [[User:Jacquelinelove|Jacquelinelove]] ([[User talk:Jacquelinelove|talk]]) 10:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Jacquelinelove|Jacquelinelove]] If you feel you have addressed the concerns of the previous reviewers, press the blue '''Resbumit''' button to re-submit the draft for review. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 10:32, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:I see it was just declined a few hours before I wrote this. Have to agree with the reviewer; the sources are quite lacking. The Qobuz, Deezer, and Spotify links are simply places to listen to her music, not reliable, independent sources that provide significang information ''about'' Mackay.
:The Artist Recap citations also fail any test; they're both written by "Artist Recap Contributor" which the site itself says {{green|This article features branded content from a third party. Opinions in this article do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of Artist Recap}}. I don't have sufficient knowledge to say for sure about HipHipSince1987, but even assuming that's reliable for fact checking, that only leaves us with a single usable source, which is insufficient. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 15:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:51, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 114.10.152.110 ==
{{Lafc|username=114.10.152.110|ts=10:51, 10 August 2025|draft=Page title}}
Tell us why you are tequesting assistance [[Special:Contributions/114.10.152.110|114.10.152.110]] ([[User talk:114.10.152.110|talk]]) 10:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi IP editor. Do you have a question? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 10:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 14:20, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Mollymcc ==
{{Lafc|username=Mollymcc|ts=14:20, 10 August 2025|draft=ZLAC Rowing Club}}
Google is indexing the "Talk" page, not the Article. I removed the following text <pre>{{WikiProject Articles for creation |ts=20250601071935 |reviewer=GraziePrego |oldid=1293187954}}</pre> from the talk page as the article was rated, and no longer a draft (I think?). But it did not change Google's indexing practice. I haven't had this problem before, and despite searching "how to" pages, I wasn't sure what to do. I am not an editor. Sorry for the bother. [[User:Mollymcc|&#32;]] ([[User talk:Mollymcc|talk]]) 14:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
{{Lafc|username=Mollymcc|ts=14:32, 10 August 2025|draft=ZLAC_Rowing_Club}}
Search engines are indexing the Talk page rather than the Article page. Could you help me with this? Is there some text missing? I'm not an editor. [[User:Mollymcc|&#32;]] ([[User talk:Mollymcc|talk]]) 14:32, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Mollymcc|Mollymcc]] Please see [[Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing]]. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::OK, added no index to Talk page. Is there anything else I need to do? [[User:Mollymcc|&#32;]] ([[User talk:Mollymcc|talk]]) 14:56, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 15:15, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Yadlappalli Mohan Rao ==
{{Lafc|username=Yadlappalli Mohan Rao|ts=15:15, 10 August 2025|draft=Yadlapalli Mohan Rao}}
hi team, this is Yadlapalli Mohan Rao i have wikipedia page in telugu and i want to be in english also. i submitted the same matter from telugu language to english page for review but unfortunatley my submission is cancelled. can u help me in this page publishing [[User:Yadlappalli Mohan Rao|Yadlappalli Mohan Rao]] ([[User talk:Yadlappalli Mohan Rao|talk]]) 15:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello @[[User:Yadlappalli Mohan Rao|Yadlappalli Mohan Rao]]. Each Wikipedia language project is entirely separate and unaffiliated, with different policies and guidelines. What may be acceptable on one may not be acceptable on this one. The English language Wikipedia project generally has the strictest notability, referencing, and content requirements of any of them.
:Your draft was deleted.
:If you want to try to create another draft on the English Wikipedia, please carefully read our policies and guidelines which are different from the Telugu Wikipedia. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Yadlappalli Mohan Rao|Yadlappalli Mohan Rao]]. In addition to what qcne said, please note that writing about yourself is ''very strongly'' discouraged on English Wikipedia, because almost nobody can do so successfully.
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} This applies equally to most translations. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 15:51, 10 August 2025 review of submission by R-paths ==
{{Lafc|username=R-paths|ts=15:51, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ghana_bids_a_farewell_to_the_2_Islamic_victims_of_the_Z-9_crash}}
i actually dont understant the reason for the reject
[[User:R-paths|R-paths]] ([[User talk:R-paths|talk]]) 15:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:R-paths|R-paths]]: for events to be [[WP:notable|notable]], they must have either widespread geographic and/or time-wise sustained noteworthiness, or some sort of lasting impact that extends beyond the event and its immediate aftermath. In this case, the helicopter crash may have been notable, and perhaps some of the people involved were notable, but it's difficult to see how their funeral would be notable in its own right. If the subject touches on any existing articles, perhaps you can incorporate the salient points from this draft into those? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 16:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
::There is an article for the crash: [[2025 Ghanaian Air Force Z-9 helicopter crash]]. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 17:34, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 19:08, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Googlealt ==
{{Lafc|username=Googlealt|ts=19:08, 10 August 2025|draft=All of my articles}}
BRUHHHHHHHHHHHH [[User:Googlealt|Googlealt]] ([[User talk:Googlealt|talk]]) 19:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Googlealt|Googlealt]] That isn't a question. Do you have a question about a specific draft article? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 19:17, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 19:57, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Santanu puzari ==
{{Lafc|username=Santanu puzari|ts=19:57, 10 August 2025|draft=User:Santanu puzari}}
Hello, I created an article at User:Santanu_puzari and would like it moved to Draft:Santanu_Puzari for Articles for Creation review. I am unable to move it due to the autobiography filter. Could an experienced editor please assist with the move? [[User:Santanu puzari|Santanu puzari]] ([[User talk:Santanu puzari|talk]]) 19:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Santanu puzari}} Using the whole url in the headers on this page breaks the formatting that provides a link, I fixed this. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:There is no "autobiography filter"; new accounts cannot move pages generally. I've moved it for you to [[Draft:Santanu Puzari]], but is extremely unlikely to be accepted. It is poorly sourced and shows no indication that you are [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. Please see the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] as well as [[WP:PROUD|why an article is not necessarily a good thing]].
:You also claim to have personally created and personally own the copyright to the image of you, but it appears to be a professionally taken portrait, typically the photographer owns the copyright, not the subject. Please clarify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 20:55, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 24.1.110.112 ==
{{Lafc|username=24.1.110.112|ts=20:55, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:The_RtI_&_MTSS_Diamond}}
I feel like this is important to education and more people should have access to this information. I am not sure what I need to do next. Any advice would be appreciated. [[Special:Contributions/24.1.110.112|24.1.110.112]] ([[User talk:24.1.110.112|talk]]) 20:55, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:There is nothing you can do, it has been rejected. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell the world about something. It's the last place to write about a topic, not the first- independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] need to on their own first write about a topic. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:01, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 21:37, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 173.94.128.206 ==
{{Lafc|username=173.94.128.206|ts=21:37, 10 August 2025|draft=Draft:Robert_Louis_Shepard}}
Hello, I am trying to make corrections to ensure Im following the guidelines to have this article published. I welcome any constructive criticism and solutions. Thank you so much for your time and consideration. [[Special:Contributions/173.94.128.206|173.94.128.206]] ([[User talk:173.94.128.206|talk]]) 21:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:It looks like you’ve been given quite a bit of feedback in the comments on the draft, is there something specific you are unsure about? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 04:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 11 =
 
== 00:16, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Nflicks ==
{{Lafc|username=Nflicks|ts=00:16, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:ECOUNT}}
I am currently working at ECOUNT and am in the process of trying to get ECOUNT listed on the English Wikipedia. I have encountered some challenges in this regard, and I would appreciate your guidance. Below are my questions:
 
The [[Draft:ECOUNT]] was rejected due to insufficient references. It seems the rejection is primarily due to a lack of demonstrated notability. Could you kindly provide advice on how to better prepare the necessary references? Specifically, I am wondering if I should approach journalists to conduct in-depth coverage of ECOUNT. ECOUNT currently operates global offices in South Korea, China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, and the Philippines, and serves over 80,000 customers worldwide. I do not believe ECOUNT lacks notability compared to other listed software, but it seems there is a shortage of supporting materials to prove this. If I arrange for journalists to write comprehensive articles, could I use those as references? Alternatively, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
While reviewing other references, I noticed that [[ERPNext]] also seems to have a lack of references. Did the investment funding they received play a role in their successful listing? The remaining references come from their GitHub repository and official website. I am curious as to why ERPNext was listed despite seemingly having limited references, whereas ECOUNT was rejected. Understanding this could help me align my preparation to meet similar criteria.
 
Thank you in advance for your time and assistance. I look forward to your valuable advice.
 
Best regards, [[User:Nflicks|Nflicks]] ([[User talk:Nflicks|talk]]) 00:16, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:As you are connected with the company, any journalists who wrote about the company because you asked them to would not be creating [[wp:independant|independant]] sources, and so they would not help with notability. Note that sources do not have to be online.
:In regard to ERPNext, it is indeed a poorly sourced article. Unfortunately some things sneak through, and standards did not used to be as high as they are now. See [[wp:otherstuff|other stuff exists]].
:Sometimes, as frustrating as it is, you have to accept that a subject is not notable by Wikipedia standards even though you know it is very popular and well known. I have had to abandon some drafts for this reason, and it can feel really frustrating, but it is how Wikipedia works. [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 04:14, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 01:06, 11 August 2025 review of submission by George J. Gatgounis ==
{{Lafc|username=George J. Gatgounis|ts=01:06, 11 August 2025|draft=User:George_J._Gatgounis/sandbox}}
Please explain how I may correct or add what is required to earn your approval please. Thank you! [[User:George J. Gatgounis|George J. Gatgounis]] ([[User talk:George J. Gatgounis|talk]]) 01:06, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:It seems that the draft was speedily deleted for being unreviewed LLM content. It is best not to use LLM at all on Wikipedia, but it is very silly to not even check what you are copy and pasting before publishing. [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 04:19, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 01:06, 11 August 2025 review of submission by DallasNZ ==
{{Lafc|username=DallasNZ|ts=01:06, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Hello_Deli}}
Hi there,
I rewrote this article before submitted but it was declined because it has it used an LLM. Even if I used it to assist me with a few sentences I don't think this should have been declined as it's mostly written by mean in a very professional format. [[User:DallasNZ|DallasNZ]] ([[User talk:DallasNZ|talk]]) 01:06, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 06:43, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Sachin.Beedigital ==
{{Lafc|username=Sachin.Beedigital|ts=06:43, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:RR_Kabel}}
Hello Experience Wiki Authors,
 
I am trying to create a page for a brand, but each time I submit it for review, it gets rejected with the feedback that “the draft needs multiple published sources.”
 
I have already included references from trusted publications such as Reuters, Hindustan Times, The Economic Times, Mint, Fortune India, and Moneycontrol. Could you please review and guide me on what specific changes or additional references are needed to meet Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing requirements?
 
Thank you for your time and assistance. [[User:Sachin.Beedigital|Sachin.Beedigital]] ([[User talk:Sachin.Beedigital|talk]]) 06:43, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Sachin.Beedigital|Sachin.Beedigital]]: please read the decline notice fully, it doesn't just say "needs multiple published sources", it says published sources that are in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements), reliable, secondary, and strictly independent of the subject. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:58, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
:Please read [[WP:42]] to understand what criteria the sources must meet. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:36, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 06:57, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Momosnep ==
{{Lafc|username=Momosnep|ts=06:57, 11 August 2025|draft=Help understanding WP:ORGCRIT and fixing declined Draft:HexaHealth}}
Hello,
 
My draft [[Draft:HexaHealth]] was recently declined by reviewer Qcne on 9 August 2025. The decline reason stated that my draft’s references do not demonstrate that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article, and that I should add multiple sources that are:
 
In-depth (not just brief mentions or routine announcements)
 
Reliable
 
Secondary
 
Strictly independent of the subject
 
The reviewer also mentioned: "I'm not seeing the WP:ORGCRIT."
 
I’ve read the WP:ORGCRIT guideline but I’m still unclear on exactly what kind of sources I need to add to meet this standard.
 
Could you please help me understand:
 
What kind of published coverage would meet WP:ORGCRIT for a company like HexaHealth?
 
Do press releases, interviews, or features in trade publications count if they are about the company?
 
How can I tell if a source is truly “secondary” and “independent” for Wikipedia purposes?
 
If such sources are scarce, does that mean the subject is not currently eligible for an article?
 
Any guidance or examples would be really helpful before I attempt a resubmission.
 
Thank you! [[User:Momosnep|Momosnep]] ([[User talk:Momosnep|talk]]) 06:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Momosnep|Momosnep]]: the draft currently cites mostly routine business reporting (funding rounds etc.) which is usually neither secondary nor independent, because it is based on press releases and similar material supplied by the subject, and is also not significant coverage, because it usually just covers a specific issue like the appointment of a new CEO or the opening of a new market. We need to see coverage that goes far beyond that, where eg. a journalist has on their own initiative said "hey, this HexaHealth seems to be doing really interesting and innovative things which are going to 'move the needle' in its sector – I should dig deeper into that and prepare a report for my readers/viewers". This is in distinct contrast to someone at the same publication monitoring their incoming e-mail and saying "oh, here's yet another press release from HexaHealth, something about getting $2m from a VC, ho hum". See the difference?
:So no, press releases do not count, or interviews (again, neither independent nor secondary), and trade publications are notorious for having very low news thresholds and accepting press materials unquestionably.
:And yes, if you cannot find sufficient sources to satisfy the [[WP:ORG]] / [[WP:NCORP]] notability guideline, then the subject is unlikely to be notable enough, and wouldn't therefore justify its own separate article. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:15, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] again '''thank you''' for taking the time to explain this in detail. I now understand the difference between routine business coverage (such as funding announcements and press releases) and the kind of in-depth, independent reporting that meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. I appreciate the clarification on why press releases, interviews, and certain trade publications don’t count as sufficient independent sources. I’ll review the available coverage to see if there are truly independent, in-depth sources that meet WP:ORG and WP:NCORP, and if not, I’ll reconsider whether the subject is ready for a standalone article at this time. [[User:Momosnep|Momosnep]] ([[User talk:Momosnep|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:08, 11 August 2025 review of submission by NozzleMaster ==
{{Lafc|username=NozzleMaster|ts=10:08, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jetting_nozzle}}
It says [ Your draft shows signs of having been generated by a large language model, such as ChatGPT. Their outputs usually have multiple issues that prevent them from meeting our guidelines on writing articles. These include:
Promotional tone, editorializing and other words to watch
Vague, generic, and speculative statements extrapolated from similar subjects
Essay-like writing
Hallucinations (plausible-sounding, but false information) and non-existent references
Close paraphrasing
Please address these issues. The best way is usually to read reliable sources and summarize them, instead of using a large language model. See our help page on large language models. ] i'm scared to submit it again and getting hours of work deleted forever, what do i need to change? A previous person told me i needed references and i added references, do i delete all references that aint doi articles or science articles? Please i need feedback. i also put the links under a "References" heading but im scared to click submit changes yet. [[User:NozzleMaster|NozzleMaster]] ([[User talk:NozzleMaster|talk]]) 10:08, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi NozzleMaster,
:It can be discouraging to see that message but it’s not meant as a threat that your work will be “deleted forever.” It’s simply a flag that your draft still has issues that need attention before it’s likely to be accepted. Pages in the Draft namespace are not deleted for having problems they remain there until improved.
:You need to use reliable independent sources like news, books, reputable websites not blogs, press releases or self published pages except for basic facts. And also rewriting in your own words with a neutral tone no promotional language. Citing each fact with an inline ref tag not just a list at the bottom and removing weak or unused references.
:{{tq|Take your time drafts stay in place until improved}}. Once cleaned up resubmit confidently. <span style="color:#1E90FF;">🐍 [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]🤖</span> <span style="color:#1E90FF;">🐍 [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]🤖</span> 10:24, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:26, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Ljverbakel ==
{{Lafc|username=Ljverbakel|ts=10:26, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:European Guanxi}}
Dear editor, I have been struggling with this draft page for some while now, I feel that the sources do qualify and that I have quite a lot of them, and a few really good ones (i.e. the one from the European Parliament). What is still missing before it gets accepted? And are there any sources now that are really problematic?
Thank you very much!
~ Leon [[User:Ljverbakel|Ljverbakel]] ([[User talk:Ljverbakel|talk]]) 10:26, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:You have documented the existence of the organization and its activities- this is not what is being looked for. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization]]. We want to know what others wholly unaffiliated with the organization choose to say is important/significant/influential about it.
:If you are affiliated with this organization, that must be disclosed, see [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]]. Note that in this context "paid editing" includes employment even if you weren't specifically directed to edit. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:32, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 11:57, 11 August 2025 review of submission by 2A01:5A8:307:F5D7:E425:81B2:2FC1:5B59 ==
{{Lafc|username=2A01:5A8:307:F5D7:E425:81B2:2FC1:5B59|ts=11:57, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Scalefocus}}
Hello,
 
I recently submitted my first Wikipedia article, about the company Scalefocus, and it has been declined twice. The reason given both times was that it reads more like an advertisement and lacks sufficient independent, reliable sources to establish notability.
 
After the first decline, I revised the draft to remove promotional language and add independent references in line with Wikipedia’s neutral point of view and verifiability guidelines. However, it was still declined for the same reason.
 
As this is my first article, I would appreciate specific advice on:
 
What aspects of the draft still appear promotional.
 
Whether the sources I have included are adequate, and if not, what type of sources would be acceptable.
 
Any other changes that would make the draft more in line with Wikipedia’s standards.
 
Thank you in advance for your guidance. [[Special:Contributions/2A01:5A8:307:F5D7:E425:81B2:2FC1:5B59|2A01:5A8:307:F5D7:E425:81B2:2FC1:5B59]] ([[User talk:2A01:5A8:307:F5D7:E425:81B2:2FC1:5B59|talk]]) 11:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I’ve reviewed your draft, well....there are sentences that read more like marketing copy than encyclopedic content. For example:
:1. {{tq|"Scalefocus provides custom software solutions and nearshoring services that cover the entire software development lifecycle: Data and AI, Digital Engineering, Cloud and Operations, and Enterprise Platform Implementations.}}
:2. {{tq|"The company works with Fortune 500 enterprises and start-ups across various industry verticals, including IT, Financial Services, Energy & Utilities, Healthcare, iGaming, Aviation and others."}}
:2. {{tq|"Scalefocus is recognized by international organizations such as the International Business Awards, Forbes the Globee® Awards, Financial Times, and Deloitte."}} and so on..
:I suggest you to rephrase these into a neutral fact based style that simply states what the company does or has received without implying prestige or making broad qualitative claims. Avoid marketing terms like '''''"recognized by”''' “cover the entire lifecycle,” or name dropping '''“Fortune 500”''' unless the association is independently verified and relevant. Also see [[WP:NOTPROMO]] , [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:WTA]]. <span style="color:#1E90FF;">🐍 [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]🤖</span> 12:46, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, IP editor. Like most people who try to create an article without first spending considerable time learning about what Wikipedia needs, you have made the mistake of writing either what you know or think about the subject, or what the subject wants people to know.
:Wikipedia isn't interested in either of these. A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people, wholly unconnected with the subject, have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications.
:So, having found several sources each of which is independent, secondary, reliable, and contains significant coverage of the subject (see [[WP:42}}, you then need to forget anything you may know or think about the subject, and write a netural summary of what those sources say.
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:10, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 14:32, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Tedysh ==
{{Lafc|username=Tedysh|ts=14:32, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Georges_Dumitresco}}
My submission has been declined with the note "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article". This submission includes references to a Suisse website SikArt and also to "Wikidata". I believe that both are already listed on Wikipedia itself.
I do not understand why these have not been excepted as reliable references.
Could you please clarify this beyond the online help that I have already studied.
Thank you.
[[User:Tedysh|Tedysh]] ([[User talk:Tedysh|talk]]) 14:32, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi @[[User:Tedysh|Tedysh]]. Let's go through your sources:
:# SikArt is just a database entry with no critical coverage.
:# Wikidata cannot be used as a reference, as it is a user generated Wiki-website.
:# viata-medicala.ro is an okay source, being a detailed obituary in a mainstream newspaper.
:# hommages is just a place to put remembrances.
:# targulcartii is a place to buy his artwork.
:So we have one okay source, but a Wikipedia article needs in-depth critical coverage of the person in multiple independent reliable sources. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 14:44, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 21:13, 11 August 2025 review of submission by Apurba03 ==
{{Lafc|username=Apurba03|ts=21:13, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:The_Evolving_Landscape_of_Technostress_with_the_Influence_of_Artificial_Intelligence_(AI)}}
Suggest me [[User:Apurba03|Apurba03]] ([[User talk:Apurba03|talk]]) 21:13, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi @[[User:Apurba03|Apurba03]]. I suggest you publish your essay elsewhere, not on Wikipedia. We do not host essays of original thought. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 21:37, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 21:43, 11 August 2025 review of submission by 15.220.16.220 ==
{{Lafc|username=15.220.16.220|ts=21:43, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Project_Santa_Fe_Foundation}}
Hello, I am new to the Wikipedia and need some guidance. We paid a company to submit a Wiki page entitled Project Santa Fe Foundation. We were informed that the page had gone live, but it appears the page as of this time is a "draft" and the company/person has not responded. How do we get this page moved from draft status to LIVE? It looks like a BOT moved the page into a certain format on August 5.
[[Special:Contributions/15.220.16.220|15.220.16.220]] ([[User talk:15.220.16.220|talk]]) 21:43, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I am really sorry, you have been scammed out of your money. Please see [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning]]. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 22:07, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
::Yes, we were concerned about this but it was too late. Two questions: 1. How do I get information on how to have the page submitted correctly? 2. Where can I report the scammer and email address. [[Special:Contributions/15.220.16.220|15.220.16.220]] ([[User talk:15.220.16.220|talk]]) 22:32, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Please use the email address described at [[WP:REPORTPAID]] to send a copy of the email. My advice is that you go on about the work of your Foundation as if Wikipedia did not exist; if your Foundation is truly [[WP:ORG|a notable organization as Wikipedia defines one]], someone independent of your organization will write about it. Please see about how [[WP:PROUD|the presence of an article is not necessarily a good thing]].
:::Do you have an account? Remember to log in if you do. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:03, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Hello, we are trying to get the Project Santa Fe Foundation listed on Wikipedia. We paid a company to assist but they are not responding. We have a "draft". Can you please tell me what your comment means below and can we request this go LIVE or what is needed to have it published? Thank you.
Revision as of 23:38, 5 August 2025 edit
Marksteven019956 (talk | contribs)
This draft is not yet complete; more details about the foundation will be added so people will get more benefit.
Tag: Visual edit [[Special:Contributions/15.220.16.220|15.220.16.220]] ([[User talk:15.220.16.220|talk]]) 22:26, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 22:30, 11 August 2025 review of submission by ICNTsurfer ==
{{Lafc|username=ICNTsurfer|ts=22:30, 11 August 2025|draft=Draft:Pahlad_Ramsurrun}}
My draft has been declined over issues with three photos. Do I have to delete those photos from Wikipedia Commons to be on the safe side? [[User:ICNTsurfer|ICNTsurfer]] ([[User talk:ICNTsurfer|talk]]) 22:30, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Yes. Photos are an enhancement, not a requirement, in terms of the draft process, which only considers the text amd sources. Photos can wait until the draft is accepted. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:06, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 12 =
 
== 01:23, 12 August 2025 review of submission by CookieAnn Song ==
{{Lafc|username=CookieAnn Song|ts=01:23, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:DSIM}}
The reviewer said that my references were not up to standard. I would like to know if this refers to all the references or just some of them. Are the following two references acceptable? "DSIM - World's Fastest Simulation for Power Electronics". caeexperts.com. Retrieved on 2025-08-11. Zhao, Zhengming; Tan, Don; Shi, Bochen; Zhu, Yicheng; Jin, Hua (September 2020). "A Breakthrough in Design Verification of Megawatt Power Electronic Systems". IEEE Power Electronics Magazine. 7 (3): 36-43. doi:10.1109/MPEL.2020.3011775. ISSN 2329-9215. [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:23, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|CookieAnn Song}} [[WP:PRIMARY|Every dsimtechnology.com source needs to go.]] —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 01:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::I noticed that some of the references in PSIM also come from its official website. Is this acceptable? [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:41, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Most information should be sourced to independent sources, but a small amount of information sourced to primary and non-independent sources is acceptable if you have established the product's notability. However, almost all of the draft's information is sourced to the product's official website and its official reseller caeexperts.com, which are not independent sources. The academic paper is also non-independent, having been written by the developers of DSIM.
:::Do you have a connection to DSIM Technology or CAEEXPERTS? Any connection must be disclosed, per [[WP:Conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 03:19, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much for your reply! I would like to know if it's possible to use some independent Chinese websites as reference materials? [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:53, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Sources do not have to be in English, but to demonstrate notability they should satisfy all three criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 02:20, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes, but how can I prove that we have connection? [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::State your connection on your userpage, [[User:CookieAnn Song]], by following the instructions in [[WP:PAID]]. This is assuming you work for the company or otherwise have a financial connection to them. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 02:18, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
== 03:19, 12 August 2025 review of submission by CookieAnn Song ==
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
{{Lafc|username=CookieAnn Song|ts=03:19, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:DSIM}}
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
Hi editors
I noticed that some of the references in PSIM also come from its official website. Is that also acceptable for the term DSIM? [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 03:19, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. That one article has similar content is not relevant to this draft- it could be that the content is inappropriate for the other article as well and just has not yet been addressed by a volunteer. There are many ways to get inappropriate content past us, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:13, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::Got it. Thank you for your reply [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:59, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 04:07, 12 August 2025 review of submission by BihariEditor ==
{{Lafc|username=BihariEditor|ts=04:07, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Government_High_School_Denpur}}
@User:DoubleGrazing is right, it's looking like spam. And incorrect information. [[User:BihariEditor|BihariEditor]] ([[User talk:BihariEditor|talk]]) 04:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:You'reAn tellingin usdepth thatsource youwill, agreeon withits own, go into detail about the rejectiontopic ofand thisdiscuss draftwhat they see as important/significant/influential about it- why?what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 0815:1201, 1228 August 2025 (UTC)
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 0516:1250, 1228 August 2025 review of submission by Plmoin2514Saysky2 ==
{{Lafc|username=Plmoin2514Saysky2|ts=0516:1250, 1228 August 2025|draft=Draft:Singapore_Arrival_CardAjay_Taneja}}
may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
Hello this is the 3rd time I have added this request for help. The last 2 have expired without resolution. I would like to nominate this article for community approval since it was permanently blocked by a previous reviewer which I believe was erroneous. Thank you. [[User:Plmoin2514|Plmoin2514]] ([[User talk:Plmoin2514|talk]]) 05:12, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
:You haven't gotten a resolution because there is nothing to resolve. You have given no reason why the determination of the reviewer should be overturned other than that you disagree with it, which is understandable as most people want to see their work in the encyclopedia. You got several replies on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/Archives/2025_July_26#h-09:44,_26_July_2025_review_of_submission_by_Plmoin2514-July_26-20250726094400 the first discussion you started] and were told why the rejection was not erroneous- and a commenter said that the version you claimed to have changed did not appear to be any different from the rejected one. The second discussion only told you why the first was archived.
{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
:Is there a particular reason you have such a strong personal investment in this draft? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 08:30, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::Hello thanks for replying. I was told to improve the draft, which I did. However it cannot be re-submitted as it has been permanently rejected. At minimum, I request this ban to be lifted. There are millions of travelers every day landing on scam websites and getting wrong information about the SG Arrival Card. I have already submitted the Malaysia Arrival Card article too using a similar format which was immediately approved, I'm not sure why @[[User:Thetechie|Thetechie]] feels this is not appropriate for Wikipedia as they haven't engaged very much in this discussion so far, it surely seems notable and important. [[User:Plmoin2514|Plmoin2514]] ([[User talk:Plmoin2514|talk]]) 05:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 08:40, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Turkiyelegend1 ==
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Turkiyelegend1|ts=08:40, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Verdis}}
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
The last time Verdis was mentioned was in 2022. It has since been on Fox News, Firstpost, and other major news companies. It should be considered notable [[User:Turkiyelegend1|Turkiyelegend1]] ([[User talk:Turkiyelegend1|talk]]) 08:40, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
:Mere appearance in media does not make a topic notable. You need to show that this micronation is [[WP:ORG|a notable organization]]. That you haven't is why the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you can later fundamentally change the draft to address the concerns of the rejecting reviewer, the first step is to appeal to them directly. I would suggest you look at some articles on micronations that do merit articles, like [[Republic of Molossia]] or [[Principality of Sealand]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:03, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 09:30, 12 August 2025 review of submission by YAKSH75 ==
{{Lafc|username=YAKSH75|ts=09:30, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Tumm_Se_Tumm_Tak}}
What can i do now let me know the proper info.I apology if is there any miss behave from my side. [[User:YAKSH75|YAKSH75]] ([[User talk:YAKSH75|talk]]) 09:30, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==
:The only thing you can do is wait for this TV show to be [[WP:N|notable]]. Once it is, and there are sufficient independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to summarize in an article, you should first appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:32, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
Hello team,
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
== 09:46, 12 August 2025 review of submission by 146.200.138.208 ==
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
{{Lafc|username=146.200.138.208|ts=09:46, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Perspectium}}
:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] &#8226; [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
My submission was rejected with the following comment:
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
"With the possible exception of the SDUT piece, none of the sources contribute towards notability per WP:NCORP."
 
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
Would it be better to submit the content without sources then? Our parent company has a page and many of the statements about the organization do not have sources such as the opening statements:
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
Idera, Inc. (/aɪˈdɪərə/) is the parent company of a portfolio of brands that offer B2B software including database tools, application development tools, test management tools, and DevOps tools. It is headquartered in Houston, Texas and has offices in Australia, Austria, and the United Kingdom. It is owned by the private equity firms HGGC, Partners Group and TA Associates.
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idera,_Inc.
They also cite businesswire ten times. It seems our own Businesswire source and comparable sources (geekwire, venturebeat) are not considered permissible in our case, but are in Idera's.
Our parent company's page also uses a source from organizations that it has acquired, when speaking to the acquisition of said organization. I.e. "Froala is now part of Idera". Froala. 2019-08-04. Retrieved 2020-03-11.
In our case, we have referenced Idera, Perspectium's parent company and information they have published about their acquisition of Perspectium as a source. Why is our version of this not permissible but Idera's is? Trying to understand how we can get this over the line as we've failed a few times now and feedback is inconsistent with other wiki pages. [[Special:Contributions/146.200.138.208|146.200.138.208]] ([[User talk:146.200.138.208|talk]]) 09:46, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:You need the "Draft:" portion of the title when linking, I've fixed this. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:27, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:If you are {{u|Zak.cole}}, remember to log in when posting. The content of the encyclopedia is generally referred to as '''articles''', not the broader "pages". This is not just semantics, but an important distinction. Your parent company does not "have a page" here that [[WP:OWN|it owns and controls]]; Wikipedia has '''an article about''' your parent company, no different than if the New York Times wrote about your company.
:That another article exists or has certain content does not necessarily mean that such content is permissible or was "approved" by anyone. Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, there are many ways for inappropriate content to exist, this cannot justify adding more. This is also the reason for the appearance of inconsistency- we'd love for everything to be consistent, but the nature of a volunteer project means that we are only as consistent as the time people have to invest in making Wikipedia so.
:Most of your sources merely document the routine activities of your company, this does not establish [[WP:ORG|that your company is notable]]. It could be that your parent company isn't notable either(I don't know, I haven't looked yet), or that its child companies aren't even if it is itself.
:I fear that you are too close to your company to be able to write about is as Wikipedia requires. You need to be able to set aside everything you know about your company and all materials it puts out, limiting yourself to summarizing what independent sources choose on their own to say about a topic. Most people have great difficulty doing that. Please read [[WP:BOSS]], and have your superiors and colleagues read it, too. Also know that [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:36, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 10:48, 12 August 2025 review of submission by 2A02:8071:6420:DFA0:C898:7621:A6CA:A8FC ==
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=2A02:8071:6420:DFA0:C898:7621:A6CA:A8FC|ts=10:48, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Andi_Krush}}
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia Community! 😊
I’ve recently made some updates to the "Andi Krush" Wikipedia page.
 
= August 29 =
I would really appreciate it if someone could take a look and consider accepting the page.
 
== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==
Thank you so much for your time and support! [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8071:6420:DFA0:C898:7621:A6CA:A8FC|2A02:8071:6420:DFA0:C898:7621:A6CA:A8FC]] ([[User talk:2A02:8071:6420:DFA0:C898:7621:A6CA:A8FC|talk]]) 10:48, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
 
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:You have resubmitted the draft, it will eventually be looked at. Asking for a review will not speed the process, as everyone would like their draft reviewed quickly. Please be patient.
:I would be very surprised if he created and personally owns the copyright to the professionally taken image of him that was used in the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:52, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:24, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Theeshamarketing ==
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Theeshamarketing|ts=11:24, 12 August 2025|draft=User:Theeshamarketing/sandbox}}
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Please advise us how to post this articles [[User:Theeshamarketing|Theeshamarketing]] ([[User talk:Theeshamarketing|talk]]) 11:24, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
:Promo piece deleted, user (soft-)blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:30, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Silvia Dalle Montagne ==
{{Lafc|username=Silvia Dalle Montagne|ts=11:30, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Luca_Formentini}}
Can anyone help me on this draft?
I thought I did a good job on my latest submission and yes, I've been using AI as assistance on formatting and translating but all contents are coming from reliable sources and have been written by myself. [[User:Silvia Dalle Montagne|Silvia Dalle Montagne]] ([[User talk:Silvia Dalle Montagne|talk]]) 11:30, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
:@[[User:Silvia Dalle Montagne|Silvia Dalle Montagne]]: what help do you need? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:32, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Silvia Dalle Montagne|Silvia Dalle Montagne]] Rather hilariously, your use of ChatGPT included a broken bit of code that automatically declined the draft. It was never submitted for review, and a reviewer has never reviewed it, but because you used ChatGPT and it included some broken code it declined the draft immediately.
:I've removed the broken code so you can actually submit it for review. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:51, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::thank you so much for your help, very kind from you, and very helpful to help me understand how to make my contributions useful and smooth!
::Will submit the draft now. [[User:Silvia Dalle Montagne|Silvia Dalle Montagne]] ([[User talk:Silvia Dalle Montagne|talk]]) 06:52, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 12:17, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Dhe4computer ==
{{Lafc|username=Dhe4computer|ts=12:17, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:(DheWSIP) DheReckahsTeam Web Security Investigation}}
Requesting feedback on moved draft
 
== 11:32, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Newacctowork ==
Hi editors,
{{Lafc|username=Newacctowork|ts=11:32, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Trinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
My draft [[User:Dhe4computer/DheReckahsTeam Web Security Investigation]] was declined at AfC due to notability concerns. I’ve since revised it with independent, reliable sources (Forbes, ZDNet, SlashNext) that analyze the project’s MFA bypass techniques and contest recognition.
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 12:00, 29 August 2025 review of submission by GeorgeHav ==
I’d appreciate any feedback on whether it now meets Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing standards.
{{Lafc|username=GeorgeHav|ts=12:00, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:FlightSimExpo}}
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks!
— [[User:Dhe4computer|Dhe4computer]]:Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:Dhe4computerGeorgeHav|Dhe4computerGeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:Dhe4computerGeorgeHav|talk]]) 1223:1711, 1229 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Dhe4computer}}::I Usingwould thetalk wholemuch urlless inabout occurrences of the headerevent breaksand themuch formattingmore thatabout provideswhat aindependent link,[[WP:RS|reliable I'vesources]] fixedsay thisabout forit. youYou meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 1223:2418, 1229 August 2025 (UTC)
::Oh::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:Dhe4computerGeorgeHav|Dhe4computerGeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:Dhe4computerGeorgeHav|talk]]) 1223:4019, 1229 August 2025 (UTC)
:We don't do pre-review reviews. The best way to get feedback is to resubmit. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:25, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::{{u|Dhe4computer}} Oh- the draft was rejected. If you believe that you have fixed the problems that led to the rejection, the first thing you need to do is ask the rejecting reviewer to reconsider. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:47, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1513:1802, 1229 August 2025 review of submission by Alex.VeliaonVaibhav9786 ==
{{Lafc|username=Alex.VeliaonVaibhav9786|ts=1513:1802, 1229 August 2025|draft=Draft:Kocha_RabhaReason for Article Rejection}}
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
I am creating an article about the Kocha Rabha community but need help improving the draft to meet Wikipedia’s guidelines. Specifically, I want to ensure the article uses reliable sources, has a neutral tone, and follows proper citation and formatting standards. I would appreciate guidance on how to address reviewer feedback and improve the draft for successful publication.
 
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
Thank you
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
[[User:Alex.Veliaon|Alex.Veliaon]] ([[User talk:Alex.Veliaon|talk]]) 15:18, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 17:25, 29 August 2025 review of submission by FurretSuperFan ==
:@[[User:Alex.Veliaon|Alex.Veliaon]]: don't use AI to generate your drafts. And make sure that the sources you're citing are actual sources, not just editing comments like "Reliable source needed here", or URLs that return 'page not found' errors. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:25, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=FurretSuperFan|ts=17:25, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Greatest_Idol}}
::Thank you sir [[User:Alex.Veliaon|Alex.Veliaon]] ([[User talk:Alex.Veliaon|talk]]) 15:32, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
:::@[[User:Alex.Veliaon|Alex.Veliaon]]. Writing an article without first finding the ''absolutely essential'' reliable independent sources (see [[WP:42]]) is like building a house without bothering to survey the land or build foundations: it will probably fall down, and will be mostly wasted effort.
:::{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:57, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
== 15:32, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Maethegreat ==
{{Lafc|username=Maethegreat|ts=15:32, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Monimala_Basu}}
My draft was declined. I have addressed the concerns mentioned but do not know how to resubmit my article. [[User:Maethegreat|Maethegreat]] ([[User talk:Maethegreat|talk]]) 15:32, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|Maethegreat}} You just need to click the blue "resubmit" button, at the bottom of the last review.
:What is your connection to this person? You took a picture of her where she posed for you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:34, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 16:26, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Tintin007b ==
{{Lafc|username=Tintin007b|ts=16:26, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fischler–Susskind_mechanism_(string_theory)}}
If I correct the reference to Tseytlin, it was actually a paper by Medvedev and Tseytlin, do I need to do anything else to validate this page? [[User:Tintin007b|Tintin007b]] ([[User talk:Tintin007b|talk]]) 16:26, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
== 17:47, 12 August 2025 review of submission by JASCbd25 ==
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=JASCbd25|ts=17:47, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Al_Siniscal}}
::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
I have a photo I would like to use in the Wikipedia article for Al Siniscal. It is a photo of him appearing with the singer Paul Anka at an awards ceremony in 2010. The photo copyright owner, Front of House Magazine, has given me written permission to use the photo in the Wikipedia article provided they are attributed as the copyright owner. They do not want to grant a Wikimedia Commons open license for use by anyone anywhere. How can I use this photo in the article with this limited usage right? [[User:JASCbd25|JASCbd25]] ([[User talk:JASCbd25|talk]]) 17:47, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Jetsonesque ==
:{{ping|JASCbd25}} [[WP:NFCC|You can't, full-stop.]] Also, ''you'' having permission means nothing as you are not the one hosting the image. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Jetsonesque|ts=18:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sam_Bregman}}
:Photos are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
 
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
== 17:52, 12 August 2025 review of submission by 2409:40E2:2001:B3D3:8000:0:0:0 ==
{{Lafc|username=2409:40E2:2001:B3D3:8000:0:0:0|ts=17:52, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Kanutufilms}}
Kanutfilms is an Indian film production and distribution company based in Odisha, India. It was founded in 2025 and produces films in multiple languages. The company [[Special:Contributions/2409:40E2:2001:B3D3:8000:0:0:0|2409:40E2:2001:B3D3:8000:0:0:0]] ([[User talk:2409:40E2:2001:B3D3:8000:0:0:0|talk]]) 17:52, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
:Your draft is completely unsourced and has no indication the organization is [[WP:ORG|a notable organization]]. This is why it was rejected. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:56, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:09, 12 August 2025 review of submission by ArynahParis ==
{{Lafc|username=ArynahParis|ts=18:09, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mutebi_Erycom}}
Someone indicated that a big portion of my article lacks reliable sources. How am I supposed to know the exact portion that lacks sources ? Secondly, why is it that there are thousands of articles on Wikipedia that are so brief (with less than 200 words) but, they are already published on Wikipedia? Check this article [[Hannz Tactiq]] and this too [[DJ Shiru]] [[User:ArynahParis|ArynahParis]] ([[User talk:ArynahParis|talk]]) 18:09, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:ArynahParis|ArynahParis]]. In a biographic article, every single statement must be sourced to a reliable, published source. You have several unsourced sections which read more like promotion than a neutral article.
:Each draft must stand on it's own merits, and we don't compare them to existing articles. Wikipedia has many millions of articles, tens of thousands of which are poor quality and should be improved or deleted. We don't want to add ''more'' poor quality articles to the project. Did you not notice the big '''This article has multiple issues''' on [[DJ Shiru]]? I would not have accepted that had it came through the Articles for Creation process. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:17, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|qcne}} I actually [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DJ_Shiru&diff=1305371984&oldid=1305369840 gutted that article] in responce to this user asking for help on [[WP:IRC/wikipedia-en-help|-en-help]] yesterday, and I explained [[WP:CIR|literally everything you just brought up]] to them in as much detail as I could. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 18:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 30 =
== 19:11, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Moodytoo ==
{{Lafc|username=Moodytoo|ts=19:11, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Untied_Mody_Kids_Members}}
thank you request [[User:Moodytoo|Moodytoo]] ([[User talk:Moodytoo|talk]]) 19:11, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
:{{ping|Moodytoo}} [[WP:Alternative outlets|Find somewhere else to host this]], maybe Wikitubia? —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 19:43, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
 
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
== 20:17, 12 August 2025 review of submission by FernCurator ==
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
{{Lafc|username=FernCurator|ts=20:17, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Neobladder}}
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
The submission was rejected because "There is already a redirect from Neobladder to Urinary diversion. Subject doesn't seem to be notable enough to warrant an article by itself.". While it is accurate that the redirect exists, it is important to note that the Neobladder is the only Type of Urinary Diversion listed that does not have a corresponding page. Futhermore, there is no information on the Urinary Diversion page describing what a Neobladder is. The existence of the page not only serves to provide such a description and citations, but could also be used to note advantages and disadvantages. and well known people with such a diversion (e.g., Deion Sanders). Thanks for your help and guidance. [[User:FernCurator|FernCurator]] ([[User talk:FernCurator|talk]]) 20:17, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
 
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
:Hello, @[[User:FernCurator|FernCurator]]. Your draft has two citations, both of papers authored or co-authored by Hautmann. Two sources from the same person are rarely enough to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]].
Thanks very much.
:I further suspect that Hautmann was involved in originating the technique. If this is the case, the papers are both [[WP:primary sources|primary sources]], and do not contribute to establishing notability. Wikipedia articles should be almost entirely based upon [[WP:secondary sources|secondary sources]].
:Unless you can find several sources that meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]] (including the more stringent criteria in [[WP:MEDRS|MEDRS]]), this subject will not merit an article. I too suggest you add to [[Urinary diversion]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 21:01, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the clarification. I'll work on making improvements. I had assumed (incorrectly) that primary sources were preferred. [[User:FernCurator|FernCurator]] ([[User talk:FernCurator|talk]]) 21:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 20:50, 12 August 2025 review of submission by ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ ==
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|ts=20:50, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Voiceless velar alveolar sibilant affricate}}
Hello, i need help. My article got rejected again. [[User:ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ]] ([[User talk:ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ|talk]]) 20:50, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
:{{ping|ᖻᒪᓱ ᒋᔈᒪ}} Not to be rude, but if this is unique to the [[Blackfoot language]] wouldn't it be better to just put something about it in that article? This may very well be too narrow for a standalone article. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 20:52, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 21:09, 12 August 2025 review of submission by Tony Holkham ==
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Tony Holkham|ts=21:09, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Martyn_Huw_Williams}}
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
I am autopatrolled and I have helped the creator develop this draft article (elsewhere) to the point where it can be put into mainspace. Do I do that by pasting the new text over the draft text and submitting it, or can I just publish the article as if it was my own creation? I don't want to compromise the draft article or upset any process. Thanks. [[User:Tony Holkham|<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#000000">Tony Holkham</span></b>]] [[User talk:Tony Holkham|''<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#008080">(Talk)</span></b>'']] 21:09, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==
:{{ping|Tony Holkham}} Replace the text of the draft, then either submit the draft or (if you think it'd stand up to NPP scrutiny) move it to mainspace. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 22:52, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}
::Brilliant, thank you. [[User:Tony Holkham|<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#000000">Tony Holkham</span></b>]] [[User talk:Tony Holkham|''<b><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;color:#008080">(Talk)</span></b>'']] 22:54, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Sorry, was that a question? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:25, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
== 22:56, 12 August 2025 review of submission by EvanBlumenfield ==
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=EvanBlumenfield|ts=22:56, 12 August 2025|draft=Draft:Hyim_Shafner}}
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
hey,
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==
How many more articles and sources do I need to make Hyim Shafner qualify for a Wikipedia article? I added many different sources. Let me know if you have any advice. [[User:EvanBlumenfield|EvanBlumenfield]] ([[User talk:EvanBlumenfield|talk]]) 22:56, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
:{{ping|EvanBlumenfield}} I'll go down your prose in order:
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
:* {{tq|Shafner was born in New London, Connecticut.}} - [[WP:BLP|Source?]]
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:* {{tq|[Shafner] received his rabbinic ordination from Yeshiva University and holds graduate degrees in social work and Jewish philosophy.}} - [[WP:BLP|Source?]]
:* {{tq|Shafner began his rabbinic career in St. Louis, Missouri, where he served for over a decade as the rabbi of Bais Abraham Congregation.}} - [[WP:BLP|Source?]]
:* {{tq|The appointment was covered by several media outlets...}} - Irrelevant; [[WP:BLP|you'd be citing those media outlets in the first place.]]
:* {{tq|Shafner has been a visible voice in media coverage of Jewish communal issues, Israel, and antisemitism.}} - [[WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV|Says who?]]
:* {{tq|Following an antisemitic incident outside Kesher Israel...}} - This [[WP:MILL|doesn't contribute]] to [[WP:N|eligibility]] a whit. [[WP:PRIMARY|As a rule]], an interview in ''The New York Times'' is every bit as useless as an interview conducted by [[Borat Sagdiyev]], especially where [[WP:BLP|living and recently-departed people are concerned]].
:Note that every claim a reasonable person could challenge has to get sourced or get out. This is a hard requirement and isn't negotiable. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 23:03, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= August 13 =
 
== 0121:4731, 1330 August 2025 review of submission by 154.92.130.89Matthewbyver ==
{{Lafc|username=154.92.130.89Matthewbyver|ts=0121:4731, 1330 August 2025|draft=Draft:Class_of_'09_(video_game_trilogy)Matthew_Byver}}
howMy dopage iis likenot editfor itpromotion, is to behelp wikipediaa notable?small imusic meanartist itsto abuild rlyhis coolcareer gameby andoffering a lot of ppl dontadditional knowinformations [[SpecialUser:Contributions/154.92.130.89Matthewbyver|154.92.130.89Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:154.92.130.89Matthewbyver|talk]]) 0121:4731, 1330 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:[[WP:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability|You can't]] - [[WP:N|notability]] is a measure of how many [[WP:Reliable sources|sources]] there are to [[WP:Verifiability|summarise]] for a subject. If there aren't any sources, there's nothing to work with. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 03:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 0321:5040, 1330 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang69.255.14.163 ==
{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang69.255.14.163|ts=0321:5040, 1330 August 2025|draft=DraftUser:Winmate_Inc.Wiseman2025/sandbox}}
Myhas draftmy hasartilce been declinedrejected twice, and I’m seeking guidance on how to address the issues.? [[UserSpecial:AndeHuangContributions/69.255.14.163|AndeHuang69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang69.255.14.163|talk]]) 0321:5040, 1330 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
:As a publicly traded company listed on the Taiwan Stock Exchange, Winmate probably is a notable company. The article does not demonstrate this. It reads like an advertisement. I quickly found [https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20240919PD206/taiwan-ipc-drone-market-adlink-axiomtek.html this source], which may be of use, but first I would remove all of the promotional material and information sourced directly to press releases, such as the "list of products and solutions" which is not useful unless their products as a list are described in depth by ''independent publications''. -- [[User:Reconrabbit|<span style="color:#4E8321">Recon</span>]][[User talk:Reconrabbit|<span class="skin-invert" style="color:#073131">rabbit</span>]] 14:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]]. If it says what the company wants people to know, it's probably promotional.
:The thing to realise is that {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 31 =
== 03:54, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Anandrajdel ==
{{Lafc|username=Anandrajdel|ts=03:54, 13 August 2025|draft=Draft:Pradeep_Rai_Mehendiratta}}
Dear Sir/Madam, Dr. Pradeep Rai Mehendiratta has made significant contributions in promoting Indian languages to a global audience. His work has helped many foreign learners understand and appreciate various Indian languages, thereby strengthening cultural exchange and preserving linguistic heritage.
 
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
He has dedicated his career to serving the nation through his efforts in language education and cultural promotion. We wish to create and publish a Wikipedia article about Dr. Mehendiratta as a tribute to his dedication and service, and to ensure his contributions are documented for future generations.
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
We:I requestdon't guidancethink onit's how best to present reliablethe sources andthemselves meetthat Wikipedia’sare notabilitythe criteriaissue, sobut that theI articlesee cansome beunsourced acceptedsentences. [[User:Anandrajdel331dot|Anandrajdel331dot]] ([[User talk:Anandrajdel331dot|talk]]) 0309:5420, 1331 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==
:Before you can ''present'' reliable sources, you have to find them - and most of them should also be independent (not connected with Mehendiratta ''or any institution or organisation he was associated with'').
{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}
:Sources that only mention him in passing are of limited use - they may possibly verify a particular claim about him. Sources that don't even mention him (like the top-level webpages about various institutions) do not belong in the reference list, period.
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:I suggest you review each one of your sources against ''all'' the criteria in [[WP:42]]. If it does not mention him, or is not reliable, take it out. If it is not independent of him, or only has a passing mention of him, it may be useful, but will not contribute to establishing notability, and can only be cited for limited information. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:52, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
== 05:23, 13 August 2025 review of submission by VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 ==
:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004|ts=05:23, 13 August 2025|draft=Draft:Muteking_the_Dancing_Hero}}
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Is there any way to improve the page, Tatsunoko considers it a separate show from [[Muteking, The Dashing Warrior|Dashing Warrior Muteking]] (known as a reboot of the show) and said page was created on the Japanese Wikipedia? But, how can this page be improved? There's a lot of concerns here… [[User:VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004|VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004]] ([[User talk:VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004|talk]]) 05:23, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==
:{{ping|VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004}} I'd discuss this with the reviewer and point out the situation. They may not have realised this is an entirely separate series. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 16:35, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
Hello,
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
 
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
== Ghatail Cantonment English School and college ==
 
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
I genuinely want to contribute for my School that why i gather so information to write it in Wikipedia but as a new person in Wikipedia i am facing problem to publish it in Wikipedia. How to publish it by solving those problem. It is in draft section of Wikipedia. And declined already for Conflict of Interest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ghatail_Cantonment_English_School_and_College [[User:ArafatImran|ArafatImran]] ([[User talk:ArafatImran|talk]]) 06:51, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:ArafatImran|ArafatImran]] Welcome to Teahouse
:I can see you’re eager to contribute your draft for [[Draft:Ghatail Cantonment English School and College]] Since your submission was declined due to a <s>[[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest|Conflict of Interest (COI)]] and</s> a lack of independent sources....
:* I suggest you review [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] guidelines to find strong third party references such as news articles or education board publications to show the subject’s notability
 
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
:* Focus on adding solid third party sources news articles education board publications to show the subject’s [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]]
:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:* Keep working in the [[Wikipedia:Draft namespace|Draft namespace]] or your [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|user sandbox]] until it is well-sourced and written in a neutral tone.
:* Once improved resubmit through [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|Articles for Creation]] or ask a neutral editor to review. With clear disclosure and reliable sources there’s a much better chance your draft will be accepted.<span style="color:#1E90FF;">🐍 [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]🤖</span>
:<span style="color:#1E90FF;">🐍 [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]🤖</span> 07:31, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:ArafatImran|ArafatImran]]: nowhere does it say that this draft was declined because of COI; in fact, I declined it before I even queried ''whether'' you have a COI in this subject. I declined it for two reasons:
:#The draft is almost entirely unreferenced.
:#The only source it cites is the school's own website, which contributes nothing towards notability per [[WP:ORG]].
:(As an alumnus of the school you probably ''also'' have a COI, but that's just by-the-by.)
:Wikipedia articles should be composed (by yourself, not by AI) by summarising what independent and reliable secondary sources have said about the subject, and then citing those sources against the information they have provided. See [[WP:GOLDENRULE]] for more on this. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 07:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:ArafatImran|ArafatImran]]. I hear that you want to create an article on your school. But most schools are not [[WP:NSCHOOL|notable]], and if they are not, then trying to create an article is a waste of everybody's time.
:In order to show that your school is notable (and, I repeat, most schools are not) you need to find several places where people who have no connection whatever with the school have chosen to publish material about the school in some depth, and been published by a reliable publisher (unconnected with the school). If you cannot find several such sources, you should give up.
:If you have found several such sources, then the next step will be to effectively forget everything you know about the school, and write a summary of what those sources say.
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= September 1 =
== 16:10, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Montezde ==
{{Lafc|username=Montezde|ts=16:10, 13 August 2025|draft=Draft:Medicine_Wheel_Trail_Advocates}}
This page was declined because it reads too much like an advertisement. I feel the information presented is factual and written from a neutral point of view. It is also based on independent, reliable, published sources and not material published by MedWheel. Can you help me better understand how it should be revised in order to comply with wikipedia's requirements? [[User:Montezde|Montezde]] ([[User talk:Montezde|talk]]) 16:10, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 05:22, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 濵島 ==
:Hello @[[User:Montezde|Montezde]]. I have had a look at the draft and it appears that although the draft is referenced, these references are either [[WP:PRIMARY|primary]] (ref 1-5) or are just pages that advertise the company (ref 6). The other references (such as those from gazette.com), I don't think add anything to help with proving [[WP:N|notability]]. The first line of the draft reads the same as what is present on [[https://www.bicyclecolorado.org/advocacy-group/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates/ this webpage]] (which is also ref 1). The rest of the draft reads much the same way. I think that the information on this page [[WP:NORG]] will help you determine whether or not the company in this draft is notable! Happy editing and thank you for partaking in AfC! [[User:11wallisb|<span style="color:#d3b683; text-decoration:underline;">11WB</span>]] ([[User talk:11wallisb|talk]]) 16:22, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=濵島|ts=05:22, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:YOHO_BREWING}}
:{{ping|Montezde}} We don't need mission statements, visions, or anything else MWTA wants to put out to the world. As for the sources...
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:* We can't use https://www.bicyclecolorado.org/advocacy-group/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates/ ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Too short to cite.
:* We can't use https://www.info.routesoutfitter.com/routsider-blog/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates-cory-suleta ([[WP:SPS|unknown provenance]]). Who wrote this?
:* We can't use https://www.coloradogives.org/organization/MedicineWheelTrailAdvocates ([[WP:SPS|unknown provenance]], [[WP:PRIMARY|connexion to subject]]). Same as above, except the article is written in first-person and was thus likely authored by someone in MWTA's employ.
:* We can't use https://www.americantrails.org/organizations/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]], [[WP:SPS|connexion to subject]]). Too short to cite, written in first-person.
:* We can't use https://peakradar.com/organization/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates/ ([[WP:SPS|unknown provenance]]). Who wrote this?
:* We can't use https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7042905/pikes-peak-plummet ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]) and even if we could it'd be a [[WP:RSCONTEXT|non-sequitur]]. A source that doesn't so much as mention a subject [[WP:Verifiability|is useless as a source on that subject]].
:* https://gazette.com/high-school-sports/fountain-valley-school-brings-cycling-race-to-colorado-springs/article_3a0ee580-76d0-11ef-aae1-b73c7d21303f.html is a [[WP:RSCONTEXT|non-sequitur]].
:* https://www.cpr.org/2024/06/12/blodgett-open-space-master-plan-approved-after-colorado-springs-city-council-denies-appeal/ doesn't help for [[WP:N|eligibility]] ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Name-drop and quote from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
:* https://gazette.com/life/outdoors/long-anticipated-master-plans-approved-for-2-colorado-springs-area-parks/article_162fabf6-bd87-11ef-9a7b-fbab7359456d.html doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Quotes from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
:* https://gazette.com/life/outdoors/breaking-down-the-plan-for-colorado-springs-fishers-canyon-open-space/article_c7a6a561-33b6-410f-a685-3ab1fec22720.html doesn't help for eligibility ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Quote from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
:* We can't use https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates,205765291/ ([[WP:SIGCOV|too sparse]]). Content on the profile is perfunctory and unattributed.
:None of your sources are any good. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 16:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 16:43, 13 August 2025 review of submission by 2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192 ==
{{Lafc|username=2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192|ts=16:43, 13 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sisters_of_the_Screen,_African_Women_in_the_Cinema}}
I would like to know where to note on the page that I am the maker of the film that I am writing about, and am asking is this contribution is considered to be a conflict of interest. I have included the URL of the distributor as the reference for the information written. [[Special:Contributions/2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192|2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192]] ([[User talk:2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192|talk]]) 16:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 11:14, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Amir Gull1 ==
:Hello! Writing about something you are involved in is [[WP:COI|strongly discouraged]] on Wikipedia. There is a link on the AfC banner on your draft that links [[WP:DISCLOSE|here]]. That section will guide you on how to declare a COI on your draft! Happy editing! [[User:11wallisb|<span style="color:#d3b683; text-decoration:underline;">11WB</span>]] ([[User talk:11wallisb|talk]]) 16:51, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Amir Gull1|ts=11:14, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Amir_Gull_Timuri}}
::Thanks for your reply, since it is strongly discouraged to write about something I am involved with, how do I delete the draft, Sisters of the Screen, African Women in the Cinema. Thank you [[User:Doing womanist work|Doing womanist work]] ([[User talk:Doing womanist work|talk]]) 17:13, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
:::@[[User:Doing womanist work|Doing womanist work]] You don't ''have'' to delete the draft: it's discouraged not banned. But since you are requesting a deletion, I will mark this for speedy deletion for you. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 17:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
::::Thanks, I'd rather not do anything that is strongly discouraged. Perhaps I should have asked this question beforehand, but it was only after I was ready to send for review that I came across the topic of conflict of interest. Could you let me know when it is deleted. Thank you very much. [[User:Doing womanist work|Doing womanist work]] ([[User talk:Doing womanist work|talk]]) 17:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1813:0148, 131 AugustSeptember 2025 review of submission by 76.126.75.28Rahoman ==
{{Lafc|username=76.126.75.28Rahoman|ts=1813:0148, 131 AugustSeptember 2025|draft=Draft:JuliaHubCosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi Charlie,
 
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Can you let me know what is wrong with my submission? I've never done Wikipedia pages before, but I've tried to emulate those I've seen that have been approved. I've used third party articles and non-advertising language. This is a page for the JuliaHub company - just like Apple and others have.
 
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
I appreciate any advice you can give!
 
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Best,
Courtney
[[Special:Contributions/76.126.75.28|76.126.75.28]] ([[User talk:76.126.75.28|talk]]) 18:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Pinging @[[User:CharlieMehta|User:CharlieMehta]]Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 1815:2838, 131 AugustSeptember 2025 (UTC)
:Hello. Are you @[[User:Hurley.cour|Hurley.cour]]? Please remember to log in.
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}
:What I will say is that your draft looks to me like what the company wants to say. {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:IP 76.126.75.28|IP 76.126.75.28]] I believe it would be more meaningful to expand the existing article on the [[Julia (programming language)]], rather than creating a separate page for its proprietary variant. The open-source version of Julia is widely known, recognized, and generally more accepted in the programming community. You may differ from my notion, and I completely respect that. [[User:CharlieMehta|Charlie]] ([[User talk:CharlieMehta|talk]]) 03:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1815:1754, 131 AugustSeptember 2025 review of submission by SeaPoint1889.101.68.143 ==
{{Lafc|username=SeaPoint1889.101.68.143|ts=1815:1754, 131 AugustSeptember 2025|draft=User:SeaPoint18Michael_miron123/sandbox}}
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I had submitted news article links as references at the bottom of my article. I received a message saying my article was rejected. Could you kindly tell me what I need to do to fix this? I thought I had added enough reliable sources. Please help. Thank you! [[User:SeaPoint18|SeaPoint18]] ([[User talk:SeaPoint18|talk]]) 18:17, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:SeaPoint18|SeaPoint18]] your draft has no references at all? Are you sure you pressed Publish Changes to "save" the version with references? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 18:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1916:1931, 131 AugustSeptember 2025 review of submission by B0b3rp4wsMguenego.usparis ==
{{Lafc|username=B0b3rp4wsMguenego.usparis|ts=1916:1931, 131 AugustSeptember 2025|draft=Draft:UAS International Trip SupportStröm_Paris}}
Hello! I'd like to know if my draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:Mguenego.usparis|Mguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:Mguenego.usparis|talk]]) 16:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Hi,
 
:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
I'd like to ask for some more direction regarding this draft. I decided to work on it because I've noticed this company's connections to major aviation associations, and found some secondary sources related to the subject. I'm trying to figure out what exactly makes it look like an advertisement - are the sources not good enough? Is the language I used not neutral? (While I've been using English for years and consider myself to be on the level of a native speaker, perhaps since it's my second language something could be escaping me) Is it simply not notable enough? Is it a combination of these?
 
== 18:22, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Changingwormhole ==
While it would be a bit disappointing not to be able to successfully submit my first article, and I'd much rather prefer to be able to correct it, I'd still appreciate feedback even if the ultimate decision would be to delete it, since hopefully, it'd help me in the future.
{{Lafc|username=Changingwormhole|ts=18:22, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:V-DOC}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
 
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
Thank you in advance. [[User:B0b3rp4ws|B0b3rp4ws]] ([[User talk:B0b3rp4ws|talk]]) 19:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
:To be frank, I didn't have to get past the first line. "Solutions" [[WP:SOLUTIONS|is just marketing speak]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:B0b3rp4ws|B0b3rp4ws]]. Generally, what makes a draft look like an advertisement is that it reads as what the company wants to say about itself. {{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 20:02, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
== 21:18, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Zackerman721 ==
{{Lafc|username=Zackerman721|ts=21:18, 13 August 2025|draft=User:Zackerman721/sandbox}}
This is not an autobiography, but it was not allowing me to add the links to Mojica's, nor the combined channel, I am wondering what links I could add for a chance to have it accepted. Any response would be greatly appreciated.
 
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Kind regards,
Zac*I andfixed Daewonyour header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:Zackerman721331dot|Zackerman721331dot]] ([[User talk:Zackerman721331dot|talk]]) 21:18:24, 131 AugustSeptember 2025 (UTC)
 
== 19:11, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Don Wanyama Off ==
:Hello, @[[User:Zackerman721|Zackerman721]]. A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publication, and not much else.
{{Lafc|username=Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:11, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
:It follows that unless you can find several independent reliable sources which talk at some length about Mojica, no article on him is possible at present. Nothing that he has said, written, or published, or that is based on his words, is relevant at this stage.
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Cyberdog958|Cyberdog958]]'s comment strongly implies that they have gone looking for such sources and been unable to find any, which is why they have rejected (not just declined) the draft.
:If you believe there are such sources (make sure each one meets all the criteria in [[WP:42]]), you will need to approach Cyberdog directly, and ask them to rescind the rejection. But please be very sure that your sources are adequate before you do this.
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
= August 14 =
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:* [[WP:QUACK]] - SPI filed [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 19:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
= September 2 =
== 00:41, 14 August 2025 review of submission by Butcan ==
{{Lafc|username=Butcan|ts=00:41, 14 August 2025|draft=Draft:Leon_&_Malia}}
The text for my article "Leon & Malia" is ready to submit, except that it does not have the photos intended to be used. All the photos have been uploaded in Commons. However, I cannot find instructions for how to import these photos into the article. Please, some help/
[[User:Butcan|Butcan]] 00:41, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 01:00, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Asf132 ==
:@[[User:Butcan|Butcan]]: Adding images from Commons isn't too difficult, this is detailed at [[Help:Pictures]]. But I must ask you a few questions.
{{Lafc|username=Asf132|ts=01:00, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Rao Mulpuri}}
:First, the copyright of the pictures you uploaded. You claimed that the works you uploaded were authored by "Leon & Malia Productions Inc.", and that the business has released the works under public ___domain. Copyright of a photograph typically belongs to the photographer; did the original photographers of these pictures explicitly transfer the copyright to the corporation? If so, has Leon & Malia Productions Inc. agreed to relinquish their copyright? It seems unlikely that the corporation would do that.
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:Finally, do you have a connection to Leon & Malia? If you do, this must be disclosed, per [[Wikipedia:Conflict of interest]] and [[Wikipedia:PAID]]. [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 01:06, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Butcan|Butcan]]. As well as the issues Helpful Raccoon raised, I would point out that images will not affect whether your draft is accepted or not: this depends on the sourcing and text only. You can worry about images later. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:21, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 01:26, 14 August 2025 review of submission by CookieAnn Song ==
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=CookieAnn Song|ts=01:26, 14 August 2025|draft=Draft:DSIM}}
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
Hello, editors, the reason why my entry was not approved is that it "reads like an advertisement". Could you please specify which part of the content contains an advertising tendency? The editor also said, "It is not merely about the materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." In fact, none of the cited references were created by the DSIM creator. Could you tell me more details about that? [[User:CookieAnn Song|CookieAnn Song]] ([[User talk:CookieAnn Song|talk]]) 01:26, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 02:01:46, 142 AugustSeptember 2025 review of submission by 2600:4040:745A:5000:5121:2A8E:4F5E:42FElesha1188 ==
{{Lafc|username=2600:4040:745A:5000:5121:2A8E:4F5E:42FElesha1188|ts=02:01:46, 142 AugustSeptember 2025|draft=Draft:Loaded_PixelCyrus_Tang_Foundation}}
Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
This is my first attempt at creating a page on Wikipedia. I received the following decline submission (listed below) but am not sure how to proceed and have no experience creating references. Any insights you can provide would be much appreciated. Thank you!
 
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
:Hello, @[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]].
in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
:{{HD/WINI}}
reliable
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:59, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
secondary
strictly independent of the subject
Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. [[Special:Contributions/2600:4040:745A:5000:5121:2A8E:4F5E:42F|2600:4040:745A:5000:5121:2A8E:4F5E:42F]] ([[User talk:2600:4040:745A:5000:5121:2A8E:4F5E:42F|talk]]) 01:46, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 04:04, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Goldface2009 ==
:I assume you are [[User:Sgraci]]? Remember to log in when posting. You have not shown that the company meets Wikipedia's [[WP:NCORP|special notability criteria for corporations]]. There need to be sources that satisfy all the criteria in [[WP:42]], which your current sources do not; a Wikipedia article should summarize what these sources say about Loaded Pixel. What Loaded Pixel has to say about itself is almost completely irrelevant to Wikipedia.
{{Lafc|username=Goldface2009|ts=04:04, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Goldface2009/sandbox}}
:Please disclose your connection to the company Loaded Pixel, per [[WP:Conflict of interest]] and [[WP:PAID]]. Are you the same person as [[User:LoadedPixel]]? [[User:Helpful Raccoon|Helpful Raccoon]] ([[User talk:Helpful Raccoon|talk]]) 01:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
== 10:13, 14 August 2025 review of submission by Cacodemonwiki ==
{{Lafc|username=Cacodemonwiki|ts=10:13, 14 August 2025|draft=Draft:ICAINE_–_Incubation_Centre_for_Ayurveda_Innovation_and_Enterprenuership}}
The references I have taken are all either government or public news items which can be very well reliable. The institute is liable to the Right to Information (RTI) Act, 2005 of government of India and hence there is no change of wrong information to be included.
 
== 04:33, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Samyfit556b ==
But article is still rejected. How do I deal with this? [[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]] ([[User talk:Cacodemonwiki|talk]]) 10:13, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Samyfit556b|ts=04:33, 2 September 2025|draft=User:Samyfit556b/sandbox}}
tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]]: I'm sure gov't sources are reliable (well, within reason), but that's not the point. The point is, they are primary sources, and as such cannot establish notability per [[WP:ORG]].
:And on a different point, you must stop tendentiously resubmitting your draft without any real attempt at improving it, or it will eventually be rejected outright without the option to resubmit. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:17, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]]I have used a mix of primary and secondary. I had resubmitted after removing Vision and Mission which was flagged to be removed by @[[User:331dot|331dot]] It was not submitted without any change. [[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]] ([[User talk:Cacodemonwiki|talk]]) 10:21, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]]: as I already said in my decline notice, the 'vision and mission' was just an additional comment, the actual decline was for insufficient evidence of notability, and you did nothing to address that, you only removed the 'vision and mission' ([[Special:diff/1305827146]]) before resubmitting. And shortly afterwards, you resubmitted again, with no changes ([[Special:diff/1305828768]]). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:29, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]]does that imply by default wikipedia consider government/public institutions as not notable. This is my first article, i assumed that adding profile of a government institutions would be a good contribution. [[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]] ([[User talk:Cacodemonwiki|talk]]) 11:13, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Cacodemonwiki|Cacodemonwiki]]: I didn't say, or imply, that {{tq|"government/public institutions [are] not notable"}}. I said they are primary sources, and thus do not contribute towards notability per the relevant guideline [[WP:ORG]]. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 11:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::{{u|Cacodemonwiki}} Government institutions are not ''inherently'' notable- they are treated like any other organization. You must show that it meets [[WP:ORG]]. It doesn't merit an article just because it exists. We don't have "profiles" here, we have '''articles'''. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:20, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Are you employed by this organization? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 11:22, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== Requesting Review for Draft:Dhiman (Caste) ==
== 10:24, 14 August 2025 review of submission by AlaNuseibah ==
{{Lafc|username=AlaNuseibah|ts=10:24, 14 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ala_Mazen_Nuseibah}}
I do not see the issues that I am supposed to resolve. The page is getting automatically declined. [[User:AlaNuseibah|AlaNuseibah]] ([[User talk:AlaNuseibah|talk]]) 10:24, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
Hello! I have created and submitted a draft article titled '''[[Draft:Dhiman (Caste)]]'''. I have done my best to follow Wikipedia's guidelines regarding notability, neutrality, and sourcing.
:@[[User:AlaNuseibah|AlaNuseibah]]: nothing has been declined, automatically or otherwise. You've created your draft, presumably using AI, with a faulty ('declined') AfC template in it. I'll go remove that for you. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:30, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
::I received a page saying "submission decline" the moment I submitted. And yes, you are right, there were some additional citations which were suggested by the AI tool I used. Got it now fixed and the article is in review. Thanks a lot for your response. [[Special:Contributions/83.109.122.42|83.109.122.42]] ([[User talk:83.109.122.42|talk]]) 11:00, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
 
I would appreciate it if an editor could take a look and provide feedback or review it for publication. Thank you for your time and help!
== 10:34, 14 August 2025 review of submission by Mkellyecocem ==
{{Lafc|username=Mkellyecocem|ts=10:34, 14 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ecocem}}
Hi there,
 
[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]] ([[User talk:Indiauser1971|talk]]) 08:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I'm looking to publish a page on behalf of my company, and the first draft has been rejected due to needing more of a neutral tone.
 
:You have submitted it for review and it is pending. Please be aware of the rules when editing about social groups in India- I will post them to your user talk page- probably you shouldn't have created this draft at all- but if it is accepted, you cannot edit it again until your account is extended-confirmed(30 days old with 500 edits) [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:07, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
I'm wondering if I could get help please to review and highlight what parts might be causing an issue.
:Hello, @[[User:Indiauser1971|Indiauser1971]].
:Separately from the point 331dot made about Indian social groups, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:12, 2 September 2025 review of submission by 103.182.14.46 ==
Appreciate any help that can be provided,
{{Lafc|username=103.182.14.46|ts=10:12, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Ehtasham_Malik}}
Can you guide me on which words are promotional [[Special:Contributions/103.182.14.46|103.182.14.46]] ([[User talk:103.182.14.46|talk]]) 10:12, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:16, 2 September 2025 review of submission by 102.22.207.86 ==
Mark [[User:Mkellyecocem|Mkellyecocem]] ([[User talk:Mkellyecocem|talk]]) 10:34, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=102.22.207.86|ts=10:16, 2 September 2025|draft=Unite180}}
Article was declined. Any assistance possible with getting it approved and guidance on writing it better or removing references that seem problematic. [[Special:Contributions/102.22.207.86|102.22.207.86]] ([[User talk:102.22.207.86|talk]]) 10:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 10:55, 2 September 2025 review of submission by NeutralMMMUser ==
:@[[User:Mkellyecocem|Mkellyecocem]]: you need to fundamentally rethink this. What you've created is a company presentation or online brochure. We have no interest in that; you can put that on your own website, plus use whatever other channels you wish – ''bar Wikipedia'' – to tell the world about your business. What we want to see is what ''third parties'' have said about your business and what in their opinion makes it worthy of note. And by 'third parties', I mean secondary sources that are reliable and entirely independent of you; independent in terms of ownership and control, independent in terms of content, and independent in terms of freedom of any financial or other inducements or rewards. Your job is then merely to summarise what they have said; see [[WP:GOLDENRULE]] for more on this. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 10:45, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=NeutralMMMUser|ts=10:55, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Objective_Platform}}
:I would add that you should read [[WP:BOSS]], and have your superiors/colleagues read it, too- what you are attempting is unwise for several reasons, and while success is possible, it's rare and not likely. Most people in your position have great difficulty in doing what you are trying. Are you the rare person who can do it? Possibly, but the odds are against it. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 10:49, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
I tried to adjust this article multiples times to the feedback I got but apparently it's still not good enough – can someone help or tell me what exactly is not working? I just quoted external sources and took out everything that I think sounds like "advertisement". [[User:NeutralMMMUser|NeutralMMMUser]] ([[User talk:NeutralMMMUser|talk]]) 10:55, 2 September 2025 (UTC)