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== Uw-error templates ==
== Template-protected edit request on 18 June 2025: uw-delete series ==
 
I feel that these templates should be moved to Uw-incorrect because it makes more sense. Uw-error is ambiguous and people could think it refers to other templates (eg. the vandalism Template). Uw-incorrect currently redirects there [[User:CyberTheTiger|<span style="color: brown"> '''Cyber'''</span><span style="color: black"> '''the'''</span><span style="color: orange"> '''tiger'''</span>🐯]] ([[User talk:CyberTheTiger|'''talk''']]) 02:16, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-delete4im|answered=y}}
Add link to [[WP:Content removal]] on {{tl|Uw-delete4im}}:
 
== Uw-citevar ==
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Announcing single-level notice {{t|uw-citevar}}, to advise a user about [[WP:CITEVAR]] issues. I will notify RedWarn and Twinkle. Please make any needed improvements. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 06:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Same for all the other uw-delete templates:
 
== Template-protected edit request on 1815 JuneAugust 2025: uw-delete series ==
{{tl|uw-delete4}}
 
{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-delete4imsubtle1|answered=yyes}}
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Change "<nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Introduction|welcome page]]</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>[[Help:Introduction|welcome page]]</nowiki>" [[User:Jako96|Jako96]] ([[User talk:Jako96|talk]]) 17:31, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{complete2}} per [[WP:NOTBROKEN]] – redirect from a page move. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|''welcome!'']]&nbsp;–&nbsp;<small>02:02, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
 
== Lead wranglers ==
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I not infrequently run across editors who fall into an editing style that I am gong to call, "lead wranglers". By this I mean, those editors, usually fairly new, whose edits are made mostly to the lead of various articles, with no clear benefit, but hard to attack as clearly violating some guideline. (Probably [[WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY]] comes closest.) These editors may be of good faith and they may be seriously trying to improve wording, grammar, or style, although rarely citations or content; their edits are pretty much always low-effort edits of uncertain value. Maybe they are improvements, maybe not, but they generally don't involve, say, significant effort to chase down a reliable source and generate a needed citation; rather, they are the low-hanging fruit of non-objectionable word diddling or just questionable changes in wording or style. At some level, maybe we have all been guilty of this on some occasion, but if I am not mistaken, there is a cohort of editors who do this to the exclusion of pretty much anything else. They just diddle the lead, leaving it no worse, maybe, but whether it is better, is doubtful, and anyone's guess.
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One, or two, or a handful of such edits would probably fly under the radar and not matter, especially as there may not be a particular policy or guideline violation to point to (and template their talk page with). But at some point, one has to question whether they are really [[WP:HERE|here]] to improve the encyclopedia, or just getting off on messing with the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, with the least effort they can get away with, by continually messing with the top of the page. I view such edits as unhelpful, and potentially [[WP:DISRUPT|disruptive]].
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First of all, I am interested in your feedback: whether you have noticed anything like what I am describing, and how you have dealt with it. Secondly, I am considering creating a new [[WP:WARN|advice template]] for this situation, to be called {{t|uw-lead wrangler}}, at least until someone comes up with a better name. The point of having a template is to record the event on the user talk page when warranted. Ideally, by making the editor aware, they would change their ways and improve as an editor, and that would be the best outcome. But in the worst case, it would provide a record that might be of value later to an admin looking at the user's history. Thanks in advance for your thoughts and feedback. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 11:28, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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== Template-protected edit request on 1526 August 2025 ==
{{tl|uw-delete1}} already has this link.
 
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— [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 21:22, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
:Please change the <nowiki>[[File:XAmbox markwarning pn.svg|20px25px|linkalt=|altlink=]] '''Not doneicon forto now'''[[File:Nuvola pleaseapps establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensusimportant.svg|consensus25px|alt=|link=]] for</nowiki>to this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests#Planning a request|before]]'''match usingwith the {{Tlx|Editother templateuw-protected}}3 templatetemplates.<!-- Template:ETp --> [[User:DoniagoYerlo|DonIagoYerlo]] ([[User talk:DoniagoYerlo|talk]]) 0022:2638, 1926 JuneAugust 2025 (UTC)
::Oh,{{done}}. I thoughtchecked thisfour wouldor befive totallylevel uncontroversial3 sincetemplates, it'sand justthey addingall ause linkthe and {{tl|uw-delete1}} already includesNuvola itimage. No? — [[User:W.andreaJonesey95|W.andreaJonesey95]] ([[User talk:W.andreaJonesey95|talk]]) 0002:4133, 1927 JuneAugust 2025 (UTC)
:::I think there may be an argument that editors receiving beyond a Level 1 warning for this shouldn't need a link of this nature. It's arguably linking an easily understandable phrase. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 19:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
::::{{tqbm|linking an easily understandable phrase}} My rationale for linking it isn't "this could be misunderstood", it's "we have a page that provides more details about this". — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 00:34, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::{{tqbm|editors receiving beyond a Level 1 warning for this shouldn't need a link of this nature.}} Note that {{tl|Uw-delete4im}} is an "only warning" so editors wouldn't have received a level 1 warning. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 00:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure why anyone would be delivering an "only warning" if an editor hadn't been warned about the same behavior in the past. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 03:27, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::An "{{em|only}} warning" means they only get one warning. Are you thinking of a {{em|final}} warning?
::::::If it helps, I issued an only warning on the 18th because a user out of the blue removed a large chunk of the article [[Tuvan throat singing]], marked it as "minor", didn't write adequate edit summaries, and seemed to be specifically erasing the contributions of Mongolians.
::::::— [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 12:50, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm not. I don't think editors typically issue only warnings to editors who have never received warnings previously, unless whatever they did to merit the warning is so incredibly blatant and unambiguous that it's simply impossible to believe the editor didn't know it would be considered problematic.
:::::::In the case you described, if they had no prior warnings on their Talk page, I'd probably still give them a level 3 or 4 for a first-time offense. Either one is significant enough to result in a block if they continue their behavior. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 15:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
::::::::OK, I see. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 17:38, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
:{{done}} Consensus to me is not obvious here, but I'm honestly not really convinced about not adding this link based on it possibly being the case a user has gotten the 1st version. I regularly issue first-time warnings between 1 and 4 and I think it's fair to provide editors (GF or BF) the opportunity to understand what they're doing in our context. Boldly added. [[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 22:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
 
== Template-protected edit request on 27 August 2025 ==
== Requesting for [[Draft:Template:Mehasana|Template:Mehasana]] ==
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Dear Sir,
 
{{TPER|Tm:uw-biog3|Tm:uw-npa3|answered=y}}
I am requesting you to create the Template for Mahesana district. I already created, but need your help to make it meaningful.
These templates should also have their icons changed from File:Ambox warning pn.svg to File:Nuvola apps important.svg to match the base template ({{tlx|uw3}}) and the other uw-3 templates. [[User:Yerlo|Yerlo]] ([[User talk:Yerlo|talk]]) 21:47, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
 
::::::::OK,{{done}}. IThanks seefor catching these. [[User:W.andreaJonesey95|W.andreaJonesey95]] ([[User talk:W.andreaJonesey95|talk]]) 1722:3804, 2127 JuneAugust 2025 (UTC)
 
Thank you,
 
~ [[User:Rahulkrsah|Rahulkrsah]] ([[User talk:Rahulkrsah|talk]]) 13:13, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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== Uw-error templates ==
 
I feel that these templates should be moved to Uw-incorrect because it makes more sense. Uw-error is ambiguous and people could think it refers to other templates (eg. the vandalism Template). Uw-incorrect currently redirects there [[User:CyberTheTiger|<span style="color: brown"> '''Cyber'''</span><span style="color: black"> '''the'''</span><span style="color: orange"> '''tiger'''</span>🐯]] ([[User talk:CyberTheTiger|'''talk''']]) 02:16, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== Uw-citevar ==
 
Announcing single-level notice {{t|uw-citevar}}, to advise a user about [[WP:CITEVAR]] issues. I will notify RedWarn and Twinkle. Please make any needed improvements. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 06:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== Template-protected edit request on 15 August 2025 ==
 
{{edit template-protected|Template:Uw-subtle1|answered=yes}}
Change "<nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Introduction|welcome page]]</nowiki>" to "<nowiki>[[Help:Introduction|welcome page]]</nowiki>" [[User:Jako96|Jako96]] ([[User talk:Jako96|talk]]) 17:31, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
:{{complete2}} per [[WP:NOTBROKEN]] – redirect from a page move. '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I.&nbsp;Ellsworth</span>]]'''''&thinsp;,&nbsp;[[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]]&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|''welcome!'']]&nbsp;–&nbsp;<small>02:02, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</small>