|
*'''If you leave a message here, I will reply here.'''
{{Archive box|box-width=21em|
*'''If I leave a message at your Talk page, please reply there - I'll have it on my watchlist.'''
:[[/Archive 1|'''Archive 1''']]: ''2006-02-26 - 2006-08-29''
{{Archive box|<center>
:[[/Archive 2|'''Archive 2''']]: ''2006-08-30 - 2006-12-28''
:[[/Archive 31|'''Archive 31''']]: ''2006-12-28 - 2007-02-26''<br>
:[[/Archive 42|'''Archive 42''']]: ''2007-02-26 - 2007-05-07''<br>
[[/Archive 3|'''Archive 3''']]: ''2008''<br>
}}
[[/Archive 4|'''Archive 4''']]: ''2009''<br>
[[/Archive 5|'''Archive 5''']]: ''2010''<br>
[[/Archive 6|'''Archive 6''']]: ''2011''<br>
[[/Archive 7|'''Archive 7''']]: ''2012''<br>
[[/Archive 8|'''Archive 8''']]: ''2013''<br>
[[/Archive 9|'''Archive 9''']]: ''2014''<br>
[[/Archive 10|'''Archive 10''']]: ''2015''<br>
[[/Archive 11|'''Archive 11''']]: ''2016''<br>
[[/Archive 12|'''Archive 12''']]: ''2017''<br>
[[/Archive 13|'''Archive 13''']]: ''2018''<br>
[[/Archive 14|'''Archive 14''']]: ''2019''<br>
[[/Archive 15|'''Archive 15''']]: ''2020''<br>
[[/Archive 16|'''Archive 16''']]: ''2021''<br>
[[/Archive 17|'''Archive 17''']]: ''2022''<br>
[[/Archive 18|'''Archive 18''']]: ''2023''<br>
</center>}}
{{-}}
== Invitation to participate in a research ==
== Bye for now ==
Hello,
Thanks for your support on ANI. But those messages really disappointed me. I thought Wikipedia was run by rational people -- that view has now been qualified somewhat. Thanks for your help on [[Forbidden City]] and elsehwere. I think I will be taking a break for a while, maybe for ever. I will still be contactable by e-mail though... Thanks. --[[User:Sumple|Sumple]] ([[User_Talk:Sumple|Talk]]) 05:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah take a break if you're getting annoyed at things around here. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 14:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this '''[https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/962595?lang=en anonymous survey]'''.
== A source for the maximum price on the rail network fares on the Octopus Card ==
You do not have to be an Administrator to participate.
Here are the links to the fare charts of the MTR and KCR:
MTR fare table: [http://www.mtr.com.hk/jplanner/2005faretable_drl_all.pdf]
KCR East Rail fare table: [http://www.kcr.com.hk/html/eng/services/services/east_rail/fare/images/er_fare.pdf]
KCR West Rail fare table: [http://www.kcr.com.hk/html/eng/services/services/west_rail/fare/index.asp]
The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition|Meta page]] and view its [[wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement|privacy statement]] .
Hence the maximum possible fare is $34.8.--[[User:Kylohk|Kylohk]] 09:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns.
== Keep it up! ==
Kind Regards,
I just want to say, great work on the 2008 Beijing Olympics page. It is so refreshing to not see strait up PRC bashing on every topic related to China. We need more people like you to equalize all the anti-PRC propagandas different special interests groups are spreading. Keep up the good work, I support you! [[User:Yongke|Yongke]] 16:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research|WMF Research Team]]
== Editing China-related articles ==
I barely joined in on editting pages and have already started noticing some serious issues with getting articles complete, updated, and standardised. My intent was to upgrade and unify the articles pertaining to China, its history, its people, its languages, and its cultures, but the effort will be maddening considering the amount of information to be posted as well as having everything adhere to a particular style or standard. Would you be willing to work with me in editting and posting articles in this arena? We can't do this alone, and we will need a common standard to come from to do it.
<bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:BGerdemann (WMF)|BGerdemann (WMF)]] ([[User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)|talk]]) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) </bdi>
I posted this message using '''edit''' because I didn't know how else to do it. --[[User:Hanqing|漢慶]] 07:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Research_announcement_list_for_enwiki_Potential_Admins&oldid=27650229 -->
== ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message ==
:Please take a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject China|WikiProject China]] - that's a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject|WikiProject]] designed to coordinate editing efforts for all China-related articles. It should have all the types of information you're looking for. And if not, you can ask for it in the Talk page. Also, Wikipedia is as always a work in progress. Basically that means there's really no end to the editing work that needs to be done. Constant work is required. Happy editing. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 19:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
<div class="ivmbox " style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center; ">
== XXX-American actors categories nominated for deletion. ==
<div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;">[[File:Scale of justice 2.svg|40px]]</div>
<div class="ivmbox-text">
Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2024|2024 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
Thanks for the heads up. — [[User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[User talk:Malik Shabazz|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 04:51, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I wanted to get the opinions of people who might be more knowledgeable on the issue of ethnic minority actors in the U.S. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 05:03, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024/Candidates|the candidates]] and submit your choices on the '''[[Special:SecurePoll/vote/{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|poll}}|voting page]]'''. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{tlx|NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. <small>[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 00:10, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</small>
== Diaoyutai Reference ==
Thanks for adding references. One thing, I didn't see where that exact quote was in the PeoplesDaily2003 article, maybe I'm missing it. One thing, though, I did see was it mentioned was similar: "The name 'Diaoyutai' first appeared in 1403 in the Chinese book "Shun Feng Xiang Song (Voyage with the Tail Wind)." It recorded the names of the islands that the Chinese had passed during their voyage from Fujian to Ryukyu, an independent kingdom up until its annexation by Japan during the late 19th century." This isn't in the Wikipedia article that I saw, but it seems relevant since it's the first mention of the name Diaoyutai. Maybe not, I don't know. I don't know this topic so well as the [[Liancourt Rocks]]/[[Dokdo]] article, so maybe you can add it if it is appropriate. If I'm wrong, sorry to have bothered you, but if you have time please check to make sure that reference covers the quote. Some of us responded to your query on how the policy relates to Liancourt Rocks, by the way, I'm not sure if you had a chance to go back and read it, or if you had any thoughts on that article. --Cheers, [[User:Komdori|Komdori]] 03:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:I've edited the article to better reflect the source. And I'll go take a look at the comments left on the Dokdo article now. Thanks. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 04:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
</div>
== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Three Kingdoms|WikiProject Three Kingdoms]] ==
</div>
<!-- Message sent by User:Cyberpower678@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024/Coordination/MM/01&oldid=1258243333 -->
== Good article reassessment for [[Margaret Chin]] ==
Thanks for all your help with [[WP:3K]]! :-) [[User:Ling.Nut|Ling.Nut]] 12:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
[[Margaret Chin]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Margaret Chin/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 20:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:No problem. Glad to help. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 15:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
== Nomination for merger of [[Template:Hongkongers]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px|alt=|link=]][[Template:Hongkongers]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for merging]] with [[Template:Hongkong Diaspora]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 December 11#Template:Hongkongers|'''the template's entry''']] on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfmnotice--> '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 10:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:Seven Little Fortunes]] ==
[[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|30px|link=]][[:Template:Seven Little Fortunes]] has been [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion|nominated for deletion]]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 March 21#Template:Seven Little Fortunes|'''the entry on the Templates for discussion page''']].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 11:06, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:The World Destubathon|The World Destubathon]] ==
==Penser loves me==
Hello. You're invited to participate in The World Destubathon. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It will be held from Monday June 16 - Sunday July 13. There is over $3300 going into it, with $500 the top prize. If you are interested in winning something to save you money in buying books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for subjects which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested. Even if you can only manage a few articles they would be very much appreciated and help towards making the content produced as diverse and broad as possible!♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 13:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
=== Mao Zedong ===
== "[[:Koreaphobia]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px]]
Why did you claim my addition was unsourced? Just because you deleted the source doesn't mean it was unsourced. (Much of the rest of the text is unsourced, by the way.) [[User:Penser|Penser]] 02:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koreaphobia&redirect=no Koreaphobia]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{section link|1=Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 17#Koreaphobia}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 05:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
:Firstly Jung is an extremely biased source, secondly, the source doesn't confirm everything you added. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 02:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
== "[[:Japanese American involvement in World War II]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px]]
Jung Chang's book is controversial, and certainly she takes an vituperative, attacking tone, but the facts are generally acknowledged to be accurate by many respected historians. If you look at the criticisms of the book, the points I noted have never been criticized. What did I claim that wasn't in the book? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 02:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Japanese_American_involvement_in_World_War_II&redirect=no Japanese American involvement in World War II]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{section link|1=Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 17#Japanese American involvement in World War II}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 05:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
:Are you kidding? Academics have said that many of her "facts" cannot be verified, some even have said that she made stuff up. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 02:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
== "[[:Korean civilization]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px]]
Most academics are uncomfortable with the tone of the book, but there is hardly a consensus that the facts are bogus. http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/biography/0,6121,1498718,00.html
The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Korean_civilization&redirect=no Korean civilization]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{section link|1=Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 July 17#Korean civilization}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 05:42, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
This criticism is mainly for a few events, such as her claim the the Ludong Bridge Crossing under Nationalist fire was a fabrication. The more common criticism is that "the untold story" is not that new or untold. By the way, you seem to be backing away from your original claim that my points were unsourced and that my source didn't confirm all of my claims. Is that an accurate perception? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:No, I'm doubtful that everything you've added is verified by Jung's book. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, look it up. [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
=== Are you just trying to destroy my contributions without explanation? ===
HongQiGong, what's going on, buddy? You seem to be bent on the destruction of my work, even when it is often the only sourced work in a section. Care to explain? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Penser
:Disagreed. Your "work" is often unsourced and extremely biased. Please try to be NPOV. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
False. In many of the articles in which you have recently destroyed my work, there have typically been no references cited, and yet you pick out my contributions for destruction. And by biased, I suppose you mean not hagiographic accounts of the Chinese Communist Party or Mao? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:By biased, I mean you use an extremely biased source, and add text that are one-sided and not balanced. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
=== Unsourced ABC? ===
What are you possibly talking about? The entire article about ABC was unsourced. I provided the only source. How can you possibly single out my contribution? What do you even dispute? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:That source does not even talk about the term "American-born Chinese", nor does it say that it de-emphasizes American-ness. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
The source talks about the "perpetual foreigner" stereotype. The rest of the ABC page is unsourced as well. Shall we delete it all? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:There is already a tag at the top to ask for more references, but the article does have one link in the external links section and one link in the references section. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
So why single out my inadequately referenced contribution? It certainly wasn't an unreasonable addition. [[User:Penser|Penser]] 04:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:Disagreed. I thought it was unreasonable, biased, and POV. Add to that it being unsourced, I took it out. Just add a source that discusses how the term de-emphasizes American-ness and it wouldn't be removed. Otherwise I have to assume that it is your own [[WP:Original research]]. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 04:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
1. First what is reasonable about that? The reasoning was all clearly spelled out in the section. Where was the logical flaw?
2. How can we assume that the rest of the contributions aren't original research as well?
[[User:Penser|Penser]] 04:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:1. It was unreasonable because it sounded like original research.
:2. We can't.
:I've said what I needed to say about this - add a source to back up the claims and it won't be deleted. Maybe Jung mentioned it in her book, too. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 04:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Ha ha. Good one. In other words, it wasn't at all unreasonable and you have no logical objection. Apparently you are just trying to delete my work out of some sort of spite or political antipathy. [[User:Penser|Penser]] 04:12, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
Since you admit we can't assume that the other contributions aren't original research as well, can I assume you'll be deleting it all as well? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 04:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:Nope. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 04:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
=== 3RR violation ===
I count three reverts in a 24 hour period. [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:Previously you said I've violated the 3RR rule - which is false. Thus, warning removed. I would have violated the 3RR rule if I made four reverts or more. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
=== Beijing Olympics ===
Now you've deleted my well-sourced addition about the growing use of the term "Genocide Olympics" to put pressure on Beijing? Are you a professional apologist for the Communist regime in Beijing? What is with you arbitrarily deleting every sourced contribution I make? [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
:No I haven't deleted it. I've moved it to an existing paragraph that was already talking about that issue. Please look at my edit carefully. [[User:HongQiGong|Hong Qi Gong]] <small>([[User talk:HongQiGong|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/HongQiGong|Contribs]])</small> 03:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Oops. Sorry about that. You had deleted so many of my contributions that I didn't look that carefully. Fair enough. [[User:Penser|Penser]] 03:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)penser
| 