AuburnPilot

Revision as of 03:09, 2 July 2007

Latest revision as of 17:58, 26 March 2025

Line 1:

{{not around|3=May 2022}}

{{User talk:AuburnPilot/Header}}

{{User:AuburnPilot/wb}}

{{/Header}}

{{User:MiszaBot/config

|maxarchivesize = 120K240K

|counter = 56

|minthreadsleft = 0

|algo = old(21d)

|algo = old(3d)

|archive = User talk:AuburnPilot/Archive %(counter)d

}}

{{hidden begin}}

{{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=User talk:AuburnPilot/Archive index|mask=User talk:AuburnPilot/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=no|template=User talk:AuburnPilot/Archive template}}

{{adminstats|AuburnPilot}}

{{hidden end}}

<!-------DO NOT EDIT TEXT ABOVE THIS LINE------->

{{-}}

== George W. Bush ==

I am sorry for going against wikipedia policies on the George W. Bush article. I meant it as a joke, and I didn't realize that my intentions were going to offend people this much. I have truly learned a valuable lesson. Thank you AuburnPilot. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Thiemster|Thiemster]] ([[User talk:Thiemster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thiemster|contribs]]) 02:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

== bah ==

sorry bro, its a shared connection, i didnt know, i thought the last thing was months ago{{unsigned2| 05:01, 28 March 2007|210.215.125.76}}

== links ==

Hi,

Sorry if this message will edit your user page but I cannot for the life of my work out how to send a message, a have clicked "leave me a message", and the page I am now looks like a wiki edit page screen.

I just got your second message. By the time I had read your first I had added a few links, and only just worked out how to send you a message. Sorry, I didnt realise it was classed as Valdalism. Can you tell me who I speak to about adding links like TVSquad had, TV.com has etc etc. I understand official sites added, but I cant understand why TVSquad and TV.com are allowed and I am told not to. Is there someone in Wiki I can speak to about advertising rates? I have also told members of my site to stop adding links, some were, but without wiki usernames they didnt receive any messages telling them to stop.

Thanks

simsyboy <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Simsyboy|Simsyboy]] ([[User talk:Simsyboy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Simsyboy|contribs]]) 09:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

== WikiProject Guster ==

{{notice|I see that you've made edits in articles about [[Guster]].<br>I'm trying to create a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject|WikiProject]] to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to the band.<br>If you're interested, please express interest for [[User:Hmwith/Wikiproject Guster|WikiProject Guster]] on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Guster|proposal page]]. Thanks! - [[User:hmwith|[hmwith]]]}}

== Re: My edit ==

:'''Note:''' the below is in reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fox_News_Channel&diff=prev&oldid=132450921 this edit] to [[Fox News Channel]].

Your right next time I will include a citation. {{unsigned2|16:34, 21 May 2007|Ajuk}}

== Cool! ==

I really like wikipedia. It's real nifty like. How did you get started with it?

== Policy shopping ==

In light of recent events, I am considering writing an essay on policy shopping. Your contributions and thoughts (both positive and negative) are welcome and requested. Please find the (very) beginnings of my essay [[User:Blaxthos/Policy shopping|here]]. Thanks! /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 00:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

:It looks interesting. I was reading through [[WP:AN]], as I usually do when I first sign on, and was shocked to find this essay as a topic. MfD'd already? Ridiculous... - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 16:12, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

::AN wasn't really the forum for this kinda comment anyway, and I think I've had some runins with JzG in the past (was he the responding admin for that other disagreement re: semiprot a few wks ago?). One editor took exception to an essay not even written, issued judgement, and attempted to get admins to delete it before it has even been formulated. I must say, I don't really like the direction that Wikipedia has taken as of late, but I feel pretty vindicated that it appears to be a [[WP:SNOW]] of keep. I believe that, with input from the community as a whole, this can be focused more towards what I'm trying to say, which is truely valid and important (IMHO, of course). The picture it paints right now is not nearly ideal or close to the true point... I had ''no'' idea I would receive this onslaught of attention and need to justify it so quickly, or I would have held off on putting it anywhere until it was more properly focused. Is it telling that a few editors (who, incidentally, seem prone to doing exactly what I'm arguing against) are trying so hard to preemptively remove it (censorship even?)? See the [[User talk:Blaxthos/Policy shopping|associated talk page]] for a better understanding of what I'm trying to accomplish. As always, your opinion is well respected and your feedback is actively sought. /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 18:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

===Update===

I think it's now pretty much done (much revamping) and covers the basic points I'm trying to make. Please let me know what you think. Thanks! /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 01:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:Would you suggest any changes or improvements to the essay? You've got my point spot on, but by this point I've probably got my blinders on. Also, may I use your quote within the essay? You worded things very well. Finally, I posted notices to Pump (news and misc)... any other way I can get a broader perspective (more community eyes/feedback) that you can think of? /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 03:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::I'll take a closer look and leave a few comments on the talk page if I see anything. You may certainly quote me...very much appreciated. I think the pump is a great place to get additional eyes; not really sure where else to go. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 02:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Comment ==

Minor grammatical error here: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lilkunta&diff=next&oldid=137234904 diff] "... can't grasp the most concepts of editing". The most what kind?

I've got that user's page on my watchlist because their behavior was so ridiculous. [[User:Joie de Vivre|Joie de Vivre]] 19:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks; left out the word ''basic''. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== AIV ==

Hey, AuburnPilot, I saw you removed two reports from AIV. The top one wasn't adequately warned, but 151.196.57.206 was. Test3, although it's not a last warning, does qualify under our [[WP:BLOCK|blocking policy]], and [[WP:WARN]]. [[User:Cool Blue|<b><font color="#000FFF">Cool</font><font color="#000FFF"> Blue</font></b>]][[User talk:Cool Blue|<font color="#800000">^{talk to me}</font>]] 19:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:True, but the final warning was given at 19:01, and the user was reported at 19:02. Granted the user then edited again at 19:04, had he/she already clicked "edit", the user would not have seen the final warning before making the last edit. Note the anon stopped editing, and as blocks are not punitive, I don't believe a block is warranted. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Intervention against vandalism ==

Hi. I saw that you removed my request for action against [[User:217.42.46.119]], asking if we don't warn users first anymore. The user has had numerous warnings - am I missing something? [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] 19:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:It looks like the final warning was given at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:217.42.46.119&diff=137512414&oldid=136463214 19:08], but the user hadn't edited in nearly two hours prior to the warning. If vandalism has stopped, there's really no need to block (think preventative, not punative). Also, as a potentially dynamic IP, the edits a few days ago could have been made by a completely different person. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

::OK, fair enough. It's just that I only spot the user's vandalism when I get home, which is often a few hours after it's been committed, and it's starting to annoy me! [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] 19:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

:::That's the frustration behind anonymous users...had it been a registered user, I would have blocked since there is no doubt who was committing the vandalism. Even worse, if you look at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrator intervention against vandalism]], some anonymous users aren't even receiving the warnings. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ham is not a valid currency ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:75.3.118.130&diff=137588100&oldid=137587305 You heard it here, first, folks]. :p &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 01:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:Sometimes you just have no choice but to do a little feeding. ;-) - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 02:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Move messup ==

Hey man, I've never tried to move something between namespaces before, and during an attempt to move the essay out of my userspace and into wikispace I screwed something up. I tried to move the associated talk page seperately, as it appears to have moved it into mainspace or something. Do you think you could have a look at my contribs and fix the moves? I was trying for ''Wikipedia:Policy Shopping'' and ''Wikipedia talk:Policy shopping'' respectively. Thanks and sorry for the bother! /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 20:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:Never a bother. I think I've got it straightened out. I went ahead and deleted or repaired any existing redirects just to get it into one place, so feel free to recreate any that should have remained. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 21:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== [[User talk:203.49.225.187|203.49.225.187]] ==

I do recent changes patrol, and came across vandalism by 203.49.225.187. You blocked him on May 11, but he's back. Just thought I'd tell you since I can't block users. '''[[User:Black Harry|<span style="color:black">BH</span>]]''' [[User Talk:Black Harry|(T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Black Harry|C)]] (Go Red Sox!) 01:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

:Nevermind, I notified another admin, and the user was blocked for 6 months. '''[[User:Black Harry|<span style="color:black">BH</span>]]''' [[User Talk:Black Harry|(T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Black Harry|C)]] (Go Red Sox!) 02:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Red-link categories ==

Removed entirely or commented out either one doesn't bother me. I think Basil (IIRC) added them - so I don't know if they are just palceholders for cats he hopes will be there at some point. We can always add cats to the list as new ones are created. [[User:Aleta|Aleta]] 04:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Frinjindoodles ==

Since the above article was removed, I feal obligated to explain to you the ignorance of your ways. Since the Universe is infinite, and always expanding, the chances of Frinjindoodles not existing are very slim. Then, if you put into account that all choices could have been made a different way, it creates an almost limetless chance that frinjindoodles do exist. {{unsigned2|17:59, 14 June 2007|166.82.24.197}}

:Ok. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Edit war? Excuse me? ==

Bogus locking of the Fedor wiki. How is one reversion considered an edit war. Explain now before I start making some post in the admin boards because you are obviously being a biased-tool for someone else. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:68.187.117.71|68.187.117.71]] ([[User talk:68.187.117.71|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.187.117.71|contribs]]) 00:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

:Post to any admin boards you wish, I will not unprotect the article. There is clearly a dispute that has dissolved into simple revert warring, and now you may try discussing things on the talk page. Try to reach a [[WP:CONSENSUS|consensus]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 00:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Do you even bother to read the articles you lock, or so you just read tea leaves? No one in their right mind would allow that material which is 1, complete conjecture, 2. drips NPOV, and 3. does not even come close to passing the "notability" test. Where is the sourcve from a media outlet saying there is some controversy? NONE. Period. You ran in there like john wayne and locke dit up after ONE edit exchange and now you claim that you are telepathic and just "know" that it was "obvious" that instead of an eift warring occuring, you KNEW one was going to happen. Completey ridiculous. You should nto be a mod here, nor should 90% of the moderators, but that's beside the point. Pathetic. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:68.187.117.71|68.187.117.71]] ([[User talk:68.187.117.71|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.187.117.71|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:My friends call me [[Miss Cleo]], but much like your rant above, that is completely irrelevant. I see you've finally attempted a discussion on the talk page, so thankfully the page protection has done its job. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 00:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: LOL. That garbage on there isn't even "debatable" material, not by any stretch of the imagination. It passes not a single wikipedia test for inclusion in an article. not a single ONE! You should not be moderationg things you seem to be entirely ignorant about, but I guess that would limit your prospects, given your response(s) thus far. {{unsigned2|00:55, 15 June 2007|68.187.117.71}}

:Here's the deal. Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). This will produce your signature and a date, which will help other editors follow a discussion. As to the article, it doesn't matter if I'm an expert on [[Fedor Emelianenko]] or not; an [[WP:EDIT WAR|edit war]] is an edit war. Maybe today is your first glimpse at this article, but people have been edit warring over Russion/Ukrainian for longer than just your 3-4 edits. People have been warring over the inclusion of the Russian/Ukrainian flags as well. Unless it's vandalism, no editor has the right to continuously revert an article, which is why we have the ability to block and protect. You may also be interested in taking a look at our [[WP:3RR|three revert rule]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 01:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

::I don't even see how or why there would be any edit warring over Ukrainian/Russian. He is a Ukrainian. It's not like it's rocket science or something. It's just like saying he requires oxygen to live. My name and the date is irrelevant, and I already know that a bot automatically "adds". Work smarter, not harder. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:68.187.117.71|68.187.117.71]] ([[User talk:68.187.117.71|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.187.117.71|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

:People will edit war over anything. See [[WP:LAME]] for a few of the most ridiculous edit wars. As to the name and date, it's actually not irrelevant and the bot ([[User:HagermanBot|HagermanBot]]) is no longer operating. I've been adding the {{tl|unsigned}} template to your posts. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 01:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== 69.117.179.93 and Natalee Holloway ==

Go take a look at 69.117.179.93's contributions today, the first day that the block you placed on him on May 17th expired. You know what to do. [[User:Kww|Kww]] 21:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

:Blocked 6 months by {{admin|Rettetast}} - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 17:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== {{user|74.136.203.214}} ==

I didn't add the image, it is already in wikipedia <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:74.136.203.214|74.136.203.214]] ([[User talk:74.136.203.214|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.136.203.214|contribs]]) 17:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

:That doesn't change the fact you inappropriately added it to the [[Laura Bush]] article. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 17:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::Since when is "really hilarious" inappropriate? {{unsigned|74.136.203.214}}

:::That would be since Wikipedia changed its format from joke book to [[encyclopedia]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 22:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

::::When did that happen? This isn't an encyclopedia!

== email ==

replied. /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 17:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

== help ==

Hi, long time no speak! Are there any rules about user pages. If so look at this one [[User:Jayjj]] Thanks [[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 15:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for pointing that out. [[WP:USER]] gives a fairly comprehensive outline of what is and isn't acceptable within userspace. I've deleted [[User:Jayjj]], reverted his/her edits to [[John R. Bolton]], and left them a blatant vandal warning. Good to see you're still around. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 15:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks From akc9000 ==

Thank you for investigating this for me. I do app. it. I need to work on a network project for a few days so I will not be here but I would like to give you this for your help.

Regards!

Al

{| style="border: 1px solid {{{border|gray}}}; background-color: {{{color|#fdffe7}}};"

|rowspan="2" valign="middle" | [[Image:raok barnstar.png|100px]]

|rowspan="2" |

|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar'''

|-

|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | For the kindness you showed me [[User:Akc9000|Akc9000]] 23:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

|}

:You are most welcome, and thanks for the barnstar. In the end, I think this was simply a huge misunderstanding that has hopefully been resolved. If you ever have a question, concern, or just need another set of eyes, don't hesitate to leave me a message or send me an email. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 23:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== Georgia ==

Got it - thanks for catching that! :) -- <span style="background-color: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> ([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</span></span> 04:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Me again! ==

Hi AuburnPilot, it's me again for another piece of assistance..YAY! hehe!

I posted this message to a guy named MONGO about a dispute he had with someone. I was saying that I didn't see the problem and maybe he should leave the other user's comments on the page. MONGO just removed them!

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMONGO&diff=139450239&oldid=139441169 Have a look please :-)], is there anything I can do - I'm slightly offended that MONGO just blanked me! --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 08:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

:Unfortunately, there's nothing you can do. Since any registered user can remove anything from their talk page, MONGO can blank you. It's definitely annoying, but nothing really that can be done. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 16:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

::No prob. Thanks anyway [[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 17:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Hi. MONGO did the same thing again when I asked him what was wrong. Has he had some kind of problem with harassment in the past or something? [[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 19:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

::::While I'm not personally familiar with the situation, you could take a look at [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Seabhcan]] for a bit of info on the situation. The result of this arbcom decision was to desysop MONGO and under the "finding of fact" section, it states MONGO has been the target of frequent harassment. I don't really know anything about it, and haven't taken the time to read the full arbcom case. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 21:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::Ah well, all I needed to know. If MONGO has had previous harassment problems I understand why verbal challenges could become tedious. --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 10:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to keep mentioning this situation. But it's shocking really. MONGO seems to be really uncivil to those who disagree. Surely he could be warned. I realise I'm not experienced enough on Wiki to deal with it myself, especially as MONGO's edits in other content areas (other meaning non-9/11) are very good. Is there any chance you could take a look at the situation. BTW, I want to give you a barnstar for being so helpful but have no idea how - so consider this a barnstar L.O.L [[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 16:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

:I briefly read through [[Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks]] and it looks like a similar situation I dealt with on [[Talk:Fox News Channel]]. The situation on FNC started back in Oct. 2006 and continued until the beginning of this month. By the end, very few people were able to make civil remarks towards each other. It seems MONGO is in the middle of a similar situation, in that he has been dealing with this one issue over and over again for a very long time. A friendly reminder to keep things [[WP:CIVIL|civil]], along with a diff pointing to what you believe was uncivil couldn't hurt. After that, there's really not much to worry about. As you say, MONGO is a very good editor. And thanks for the semi-barnstar ;-). If you ever want to give somebody a barnstar, there are a lot to choose from on [[WP:BARNSTAR]] as well as a few related awards [[Wikipedia:Personal user awards|here]] and [[Wikipedia:Other awards|here]]. Thanks, - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 05:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

::Is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMONGO&diff=140138738&oldid=139720083 this comment on MONGO's talk page O.K?] :). --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry AuburnPilot. Same issue again - I posted the friendly warning to MONGO and this was his response http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMONGO&diff=140153199&oldid=140138738. I want to take this higher as I don't appreciate my messages being dismissed like that. Where can I go to get this officially sorted out? --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 18:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

If this guy doesn't stop harassing me about NOTHING, there is going to be a problem. I strongly huge you to tell him to get busy writing an encyclopedia and leave me alone.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 18:56, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:You are quite correct MONGO. There '''will''' be a problem. I tried to speak to you, I tried to ask you to consider other people's viewpoints. You have blanked and ignored me several times without good reason. I shall be seeking advice on what to do about this. I honestly cannot comprehend your behaviour towards me. [[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 19:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

::Pushing yourself on others after you've repeatedly been asked not to is at minimum making yourself a pest, and could be construed as harassment. For your own benefit please let it go. Your statement "There '''will''' be a problem" is an uncalled-for threat; MONGO would be entirely justified in asking for administrative intervention. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] 19:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:::But quite frankly, none of this would have happened if MONGO could be bothered to take one second and respond to the concerns of incivility. The edit summary accusing Doctor11 of harassment and telling him to "buzz off" is a perfect example of what MONGO needs to stop doing. This is not harassment; it's MONGO's continued unwillingness to address concerns that are raised. MONGO...take the 10 seconds it would take to respond rather than blanking people's comments. You and everybody else knows that blanking people's comments will always lead to somebody being annoyed. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks for your help AuburnPilot. Be advised that I have decided to consult arbcom. Please could you give your input http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:MONGO --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 19:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::I've left a statement, but I believe a [[WP:RFC|request for comment]] would have been a better first start. This may just be one of those situations you have to put behind you and move on. I realize it's frustrating, but sometimes theres nothing better than moving along, realizing you've taken the high road. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 19:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry! I didn't realise RFC existed! I looked at mediation but it has to be about a specific article. I'll see what MONGO gives as a statement and then consider my position. Although an apology from MONGO would be nice. --[[User:Doctor11|Doctor11]] 19:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

== Please ==

I Driski555 want you to delete my account (not block) because I will no longer be with wikipedia for I have no reason to have an account and not edit. [[User:Driski555|&quot;Nothing else matters&quot;]] 20:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

:Accounts cannot simply be deleted, but you may wish to take a look at [[meta:right to vanish]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 21:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Princeboy ==

Thanks, not blocked on a different computor--[[User:Princeboy|Princeboy]] 05:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

== RFC ==

Though outside your normal "extensive watchlist", I figured you might have some good input on the RFC ongoing at [[Talk:Ted Kennedy]]. As always, I solicit your opinion and not your support (need not be said, but FTR nontheless). /[[User:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] 17:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:I gave it a brief look and I don't really have an opinion either way; I can see the arguments from both sides. As it is just one of thousands of issues that come up, it probably doesn't warrant inclusion on its own. But if the comment that TK opposed the project because it would disrupt the view from his home, that could very well go in the criticism section that is blatantly missing from the article. Either way, I'm stuck on the fence. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 01:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

== I've blocked the sock ==

I have indefblocked Doctor11 as a sock of banned user:Asucena per CheckUser evidence. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|talk]] 08:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC).

== Problems problems everwhere ==

You told me if I ever need a second set of eyes to let you know. Well, I am asking but for a completely different reason. No matter where I go, information in the articles is just wrong and it appears that what happens is that after one editor starts it as wrong, it is feed upon by other editors and it just gets out of control. I really think there needs to be some type of function in wiki to stop this. I suggested something like an expert tag but instead just flags editors in edit mode to say you should have a great deal of background information on this topic before you edit this article.

The issue is, that in complex items such as [[router]], [[network backbone]] two name just two, (look at my history to see what has been going on) you cannot just go by what you find in a cite because the cite that you find can be wrong as well. So the problem gets compounded. Can you think of a solution to stop this? Some of these articles have been complete wrong for over a year.

Is there a way for me to be able to scan for expert tags in the area of networking routing and the internet so I can just resopnd to thier call. I found the first one by accident, and using the wiki links, keep finding the mis-information all about.

Any suggestion would be helpful. Just want wiki to be correct.

My best to you!

--<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 17:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

:I'm out of town at the moment and only have a brief second, but I'll certainly take a more in depth look at the above when I get back home. In the mean time, you may want to take a look at [[Wikipedia:Flagged revisions]]. This is a current proposal that would mark, or flag, certain versions of articles that have been checked and are free from vandalism. There is also the possibility for flagging articles which are at a higher quality that others. Not exactly what you're thinking of, but worth a look. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 21:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

:: I like your proposal and also the discussion on [[Wikipedia:Pushing to validation]]. If I had a vote, I would vote to approve the proposal. Saying this does not help with my current my issue. Even validation will not help with the issues I see. Because an editor can easily find a cite that is not correct. You could cite this and your article looks correct. Without actual '''learned''' knowledge you cannot discern this. It would be like the expert tag but instead in edit mode just flag the person in edit mode that to edit this article they need a working knowledge of the subject matter. This would not stop them from editing it, just warning about this. The tag could only be added or removed by an admin. (If this is possible). When you return, I would love to discuss this with you further. There are article out there that have been wrong since 2005 and other editor, build on the mis-information. And thanks for replying, as I said, this can surely wait till you return. --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 02:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:::First, sorry for the delayed response. My concern with such a tag is that it would have the unintended consequence of discouraging non-experts. Sure it's a nice thought that an expert could give an article an "OK", but an expert has no greater standing than somebody who has zero knowledge on a subject. In fact, I've authored and remain the sole contributor to articles which I know nothing about. That doesn't, however, mean they are inaccurate or in someway less encyclopedic. That's sort of the entire point of this project; anybody can edit anything and everyone is on the same playing field. Our policies such as [[WP:VERIFY]] ensure some standard of quality, and an expert would actually be precluded from editing solely from knowledge due to our policy on [[WP:OR|no original research]]. Anything beyond that and we run the risk of becoming [[Citizendium]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 22:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:::: Actually, I came up with a better solution and it is working very well. I posted notices using a notice box, on the talk pages of the ''problem'' pages and told editors what goes into each article. If they did not follow the rules, I would just revert the edits. And you would not believe what happened! People actually read these things and the problem has been solved. Actually even better, because now there are editors contributing very contructively and I am not doing all the contibutions myself anymore. I am very happy to let other contribute and I just monitor. If they stray, I just post a notice on their talk page. To tell you the truth when I joined the WikiProject Networking I thought it was a hopeless task there was so much mis information in all the aricles but, [[Routing]], [[Routing protocol]] and what I started with [[Router]] all are looking good now and for the first time in years since 2005 have correct data in them. I actually am keeping track on the cleanup. I really dont hear form anyone else in the project but I joined and am helping the other editors so now they are editing very good. For a once I am happy ! This issue is actually closed. But I would like to ask you about another. --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 03:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Fixed ==

<small>(Copied from [[User talk:Can't sleep, clown will eat me]])</small>

How does [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/User_talk:77.100.74.79 the deletion] of this talk page fit G5? Was this intentional? - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 23:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AuburnPilot&diff=141064112&oldid=140918826 Fixed.] - <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me|Can't sleep, clown will eat me]] ([[User talk:Can't sleep, clown will eat me|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Can't sleep, clown will eat me|contribs]]) 23:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

::Great. I figured it was unintentional but thought I'd check before restoring. Thanks, - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 23:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Unblock ==

Thanks for unblocking me! Regards, [[User:DavyJonesLocker|DavyJonesLocker]] 23:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Scroll boxes for references ==

I agree that scroll boxes for references are a ''Bad idea'', and I see them popping up all over the place lately. Has there been some kind of policy change or debate about this? Thanks, [[User:Silly rabbit|Silly rabbit]] 00:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:A template ({{tl|scrollref}}) was created that would add a scroll bar to the ref list, but it was ultimately deleted after [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_June_11#Template:Scrollref|this discussion]]. There was actually a fair amount of discussion on the talk page of the deleted template [[Template_talk:Scrollref|here]], but the talk page was deleted as well. The template people are using to accomplish the same thing as the deleted template ({{tl|scroll box}}) states on the page it shouldn't be used in main space, but people do it anyway. My suggestion would be to remove it anywhere you see it. Unfortunately the discussion was deleted along with the template. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 00:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Unblock Request ==

...please? [[User:65.30.177.4|65.30.177.4]] 07:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:If you're able to edit this talk page, you are not blocked. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 13:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

::Actually, he may be autoblocked. Autoblocked users can still edit talk pages, therefore, they can contact you on you talk. --<small>([[Wikipedia:Editor review/R|Review Me]])</small> [[User:R|'''R''']] ^{[[User_talk:R|Parlate]]}<small>[[Special:Contributions/R|Contribs]]_{[[Special:Emailuser/R|@]]} (Let's Go Yankees!)</small> 23:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:::<s>They can only edit their talk pages, not the talk pages of other users.</s> Apparently a person can somehow still edit talk pages in certain situations, but I believe it applies to registered users, not IPs...could be wrong. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 23:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Dick Cheney ==

My bad, It was Duane Cheney. I didn't notice untill after I posted [[User:Wikimindless|Wikimindless]] 18:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

: Did you even read the first sentence of the source completely before you constructed a paragraph of mostly original research, and jammed it into the Vice-President's article? - [[User:Crockspot|Crockspot]] 18:55, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

::Considering the user ([[User:Wikimindless|Wikimindless]]} has now been blocked for one month due to sockpuppetry, I'm guess the answer is "''no''". - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 22:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Monitoring ==

I just wanted to followup with you and make sure I was not being too bold by listing notices on the talk pages of the articles. It has corrected a series of problems. But I thought it like this. I could keep fixing these things. Or tell the people what they are doing wrong and help them understand so they did the edits correctly. If I teach them how to edit, then I do not have to keep fixing things myself. I much rather it be a team effort. Do you agree? Have a look at the talk page for [[Router]] for example. Also have a look at how much nicer the article is now then before I did the first edit on it. Please let me know. Thanks! --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 03:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:I wouldn't say you are being too bold, as there are even templates such as {{tl|Maintained}} which allow the main contributors of an article to be identified. This helps anybody who has a question related to the article find somebody who is familiar with its content. Looking at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Router&diff=141315893&oldid=139164530 changes] between when you starting working on [[Router]] and its current form, you've done some excellent work and I agree with your approach to a team effort. You might even take a look at {{tl|FAQ}}, which allows you to create a FAQ section on the talk page. This will keep you from repeating yourself if the same issues keep coming up. Looks like you've found a great way to improve articles, while still keeping the community involved. Well done... - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 03:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:: I love this! Thanks for the info! --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 14:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thought you'd like to see this ==

[http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1106770&pageid=2]. Best :) — [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions">^'''{C}'''</font>]] 15:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the link. Certainly better than the [http://wikipediaocd.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/another-typical-ocd-internet-addiction-wikipedia-editor-exposed/ last time] somebody noticed my edits. And just for the record, the person who responded was not me... ;-) - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 18:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== Carbogen ==

Re: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wknight94&diff=prev&oldid=141461960 this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Theory_of_everything&diff=141462422&oldid=141089165 this], it's your turn {{;)}}. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 20:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:It was right of you to AGF. And I had doubts about my block or I wouldn't have unblocked. But now that you point out the IP edits too - and that IP doesn't appear to be very shared - I'd recommend a pretty long block for both the account and the IP. —[[User:wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:wknight94|talk]]) 03:17, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

::Replied on [[User talk:Wknight94]]. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 05:43, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== Unsigned ==

Could you please tell me how you are getting unsigned comments on your help page to be signed with <nowiki>{{unsigned}}</nowiki> ? It does not seem to work for me on my talk page and I getting a number of unsigned notes. --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 22:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

:Since [[User:HagermanBot|HagermanBot]] is no longer operating, I've been adding them myself. When you add the template, make sure you check the history for who left the comment and add it as a parameter within the template. In other words, had you forgotten to sign, I would have placed <nowiki>{{unsigned|akc9000}}</nowiki> next to your comment. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 23:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

== I can't find the guts to do it... ==

Hello! I want to ask you about nominating oneself to become an Admin. It sounds silly, but I couldn't find the courage to do so, and I wondered if you had any pointers about what I could do, or if you think I am suited for the job (really, I want to know).</br>

Thanks,</br>

--[[User:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">'''FastLizard4'''</span>]] ([[user_talk:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Contribs</span>]]) 01:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:From a purely edit count standpoint, I honestly don't believe you could get through an RfA successfully right now. You only have 413 edits total, and over 240 of those edits are in userspace. The greatest problem with the edit count, however, is that you only have 19 edits to main space (articles). Unfortunately, there just isn't enough for somebody to judge your likely actions as an admin. This is also likely due to the fact you only truly started editing at the beginning of May '07 (last month). In comparison, I'd been editing for over 6 months and had just under 3000 edits to main space when I was nominated. I realize this probably isn't the answer you were hoping for, and you certainly don't have to wait six months, but I would suggest holding off on an RfA nomination until you've been editing for atleast 3-4 months. Get involved with [[WP:RfA]], note which nominations pass/fail, and after a few months, submit to an [[WP:ER|editor review]]. I would strongly suggest getting involved in the actual writing of articles; this is the best way to learn policy, see it in action, and better understand its application. Best of luck! - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 03:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks anyway, I have no problem waiting :-)</br>

::--[[User:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">'''FastLizard4'''</span>]] ([[user_talk:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Contribs</span>]]) 03:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== Help with Photos ==

Hi, I need a little help with understanding. I uploaded a series of photos for the [[Router]] article using the same method I saw another editor use. They were flagged as not being logos. Ok so I looked up the information about the proper tag to use and it looks like I should use: <nowiki>{{Non-free promotional}}</nowiki> with the rationale: There are no free replacement photos available that would show this item and or class of product.

But it seems that wiki thinks that these photo's should be replaced with free photos that a person could just take of the items in question. Now I don't know where to go to get a photo of an item that costs about 1 million dollars or more. Some of these other items are easy enough to find online but they are not something you will find in a store. Could you please let me know, exactly what your take is on this. I could just remove all the photos from the article but it looks much nicer to be able to see what you are talking about.

I thought the proper tag to use and it looks like I should use: <nowiki>{{Non-free promotional}}</nowiki> with the rationale: There are no free replacement photos available that would show this item and or class of product; would handle this issue.

Please advise me... Thanks... Al --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 16:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:It looks like you've figured it out and applied appropriate fair use rationales to the images. Just keep in mind, even a fair use rationale may not be enough if another editor believes the images could be replaced by free use equivalents. In this case, even though it may be difficult to photograph the equipment, it's still theoretically possible. You've certainly made a strong case for these images, though. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 05:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks for your thoughts on this. Yes, unfor. I learned the hard way, if you are going to make a point on wiki to defend ones own thought process, use the strongest defense possible from the beginning to avoid a long an protracted debate. If you use your strongest defense first and still lose, well then, you did not waste time debating the issue at least. :-). --<span id="{{{User|akc9000}}}" class="plainlinks" style="color:#002bb8">[[User:{{{User|akc9000}}}|{{{User|akc9000}}}]] ^{([[User talk:{{{User|akc9000}}}|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|akc9000}}}|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{{User|akc9000}}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>])</span>} 22:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Sister Act 3 sock/meatpuppet ==

Re [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gogo_Dodo&diff=141745457&oldid=141715057 your message]: Yup. One very bad joke. Hopefully that's the last we will see of it. -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] 06:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== I need help! ==

Sorry I keep bugging you, but I need more help. I tried to create a category called "Wikipedians who experienced Blue Screens of Death" for my BSoD userboxes (see my talk page for those), but I could never get the category to work correctly. It sorted everyone under "U" for "User:", instead of by their username. Any help would be appreciated, and if you could create it for me, that would be great (just in case it requires the user to be a sys-op to create a category)!</br>

Thanks a million,</br>

--[[User:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">'''FastLizard4'''</span>]] ([[user_talk:FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Talk</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/FastLizard4|<span style="color:#228B22">Contribs</span>]]) 06:40, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:Categories and templates are not my best area, but I believe adding {{tl|Pagename}} to the category will place users in the list alphabetically by their username. In this case, the category would be <nowiki>[[Category:Wikipedians who experienced Blue Screens of Death|{{Pagename}}]]</nowiki> . - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 06:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== re: Gaylord, Minnesota edit. "please stop adding..." ==

Sorry about that. New user here. Just trying to figure out how to have the page edit protected due to recent vandalism.

:No worries. If you'd like a page protected, you can file a request on [[WP:RPP|Wikipedia:Requests for page protection]]. Looking at the history of the page, I doubt the request will be granted, however. Protection is only granted when there is such a large amount of vandalism, normal editing of the article is disrupted. - '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 16:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

== Image:Seal of Galena Illinois.PNG ==

I noticed you switched the copyright tag on this image from released into public ___domain into copyrighted.

Is this really a "derivative work"? It was my understanding that a "derivative work" (in regards to images) is a modifciation to an original. This image was drawn completely from '''scratch'''. I didn't paste any images in there and outline it or anything else. I drew this completely from a blank slate. As mentioned, I did in fact base my drawings off a copyrighted image, but they were not copied from it digitally nor modified. I just used it as a guide. In addition you stated "The image was taken from the city's website, CityofGalena.org". It was not.

Let me know, thank you sir! [[User:Chupper|Chupper]] 22:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:By the way, before I spent those couple of hours creating the seal, I looked at [[:Image:Seal of Los Angeles, California.svg]] and noticed they released it into the public ___domain. Thats what I used as a template for my seal drawing. [[User:Chupper|Chupper]] 22:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::Unfortunately, you looked at one of the rare exceptions ([[:Image:Seal of Los Angeles, California.svg]]) as a base for your work. The Los Angeles image is a rare exception, because it was published in the United States in 1905. Works such as these are in the public ___domain within the United States if they were published before January 1, 1923. Even though you drew the image from scratch, it is still a near exact copy of the original. If you look at [[Wikipedia:Copyright_FAQ#Derivative_works]], a derivate work is anything that is "based on and a close copy of" another work. By your own words above, the image falls into that category ("''I did in fact base my drawings off a copyrighted image''"). The only good news I can offer is that the image still qualifies as fair use, now that I've added the rationale and original source information. - [[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]] [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 00:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== Lifting Autoblocks ==

Can you tell me how you found that autoblock to lift as I couldn't? This probably makes me stupid but I think it may be useful to me in the future. Thanks for your help. [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] ^{''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''} 22:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

:Don't feel too bad; I avoided unblock requests due to autoblocks for the first few weeks I was an admin. I didn't have a clue how to resolve them, but luckily I found a link to the [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~pgk/autoblock.php Autoblock tool]. Whenever a registered user is autoblocked, you can enter the username into the autoblock tool under the section labeled "blockee". This should give you any active autoblocks for that username. You can then click on the link it provides and you will be able to unblock. You can also search for autoblocks by blocker or block id. - [[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]] [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 00:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

== "blatantly false" ==

Please do not falsely accuse me of using "blatantly false" edit summaries. The user was deliberately editing articles to swtich pro-life to anti-abortion. Pro-life and Pro-choice are the terms that wikipedia uses. The user was specifically making these edits to switch wikipedia into having a pro-choice bias as the user did not change pro-choice into pro-abortion, but only pro-life to anti-abortion. Perhaps "removing bias" would have been a better edit summary, but sabotaging articles to be biased seems to me to be similiar enough to vandalism where it would not warrant the accusation of being "blatantly false". [[User:75.32.32.140|75.32.32.140]] 02:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

:I guess we both made a poor choice of wording. Next time, rather than mass reverting, I would suggest trying to discuss the changes with the person you are reverting. - [[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]] [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 03:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)