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==A general issue==

Hi. Mr. Lupu makes bases his vision on ill-constructed arguments and untenable assumptions. I genuinely enjoy working with you, and I consider you a good contributor, but I fear I am also adamant on the issue of the Holocaust in Romania (and, of course, elsewhere). I consider that sort of information highly improper, and I think the general principles of wikipedia, as well as the majority of contributors, will agree with me. I personally am saddened if that article may in fact reflect your own opinions, and will continue to enjoy collaborating with you only to the measure where you do not promote any of them into future articles. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 15:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

: Sorry, I didn't read that article carefully, just a few paragraphs related to the Nicholschi stuff. I will have to read it all to form a considerate opinion, and then I will reply. In the meantime, please do not jump to conclusions. Thanks. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 15:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

: OK, upon skimming through the paper in question, I can see now what the problem is. I assumed the article is of academic quality, since it was presented at an international conference, [http://www.helsinki.fi/iehc2006/sessions41_80.html], and the author himself is an academic. But I must confess I'm not familiar with the milieu of historical research. I guess one must be more careful when using sources from there than with the scientific milieu, with which I'm more familiar. At any rate, thanks again for drawing my attention to this issue -- it's been educational. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 15:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

::I'm sorry myself for assuming it reflected you opinion. I myself had glanced through it previously, and failed to note the problem (I was not previously familiar with the scandal involving Corvin, and I think I was either using a highlighted HTML version or simply looking for the parts you had referenced, without checking out the rest; I re-read it because the innocent title stuck with me, and was looking to see if and how it might have helped elsewhere). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 15:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

==A format suggestion==

I have just noticed on your user page that you linked to categories by their address ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Alumni_by_university_in_the_United_States Alumni by university in US], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Faculty_by_university_in_the_United_States Faculty by university in US]). I have a suggestion to make: consider using

:Category

as in <nowiki>[[:Category:Romanian politicians]]</nowiki>

(it transforms itself into a link - [[:Category:Romanian politicians]]) [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 16:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

== An article which you started, or significantly expanded, ''[[Alexandru Nicolschi ]]'', was selected for [[WP:DYK|DYK]]! ==

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:You're welcome. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 00:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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== [[Akane Yamaguchi]] ==

[[Romanian anti-communist resistance movement]]

Hello. Help copy edit and improvements for article. Thanks you. [[Special:Contributions/58.187.77.36|58.187.77.36]] ([[User talk:58.187.77.36|talk]]) 09:48, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

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: You're welcome. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 03:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

==Macaulay2==

== [[William Lowell Putnam Mathematical Competition]] ==

Thanks for voicing an opinion on the Macaulay2/Macaulay merge, and thanks for adding the sentence about packages. I moved that sentence up to the top section, where it seemed to go better than in History, and wrote the wrong thing in the edit summary ('contributors' should be 'packages). David Eisenbud I think should go under history, since he wasn't originally listed as a main developer, but now is. Anyway, I hope you aren't offended that I moved your sentence (or confused by my summary). I'm certainly not trying to violate [WP:OWN], and it goes without saying that you should make any other changes that you think are appropriate.

Related to the same article, do you think it was correct to upgrade the article rating to Start? (I'm not sure what the etiquette is for articles covered by a project with no formal rating policy.)

I see you've added a number of links to participants, but you've also included some [[redlinks]]. Were you intending to write articles on them; did you (or Wikipedia) misspell the name; did you intentionally create redlinks, or am I missing some other plausible option. &mdash; [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] | [[User_talk:Arthur_Rubin|(talk)]] 16:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[[User:Russ Woodroofe|Russ Woodroofe]] ([[User talk:Russ Woodroofe|talk]]) 15:28, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

* No problem, it looks better this way! I think the rating of "Start" seems appropriate now, though I'm not sure what the formal rating procedure is, either. I would also argue that the M2 article should be of mid-level importance, rather than low-level importance, as it is presently rated. But the case for such a rating may have to be enhanced further, e.g., by highlighting the sheer number of associated packages and contributors, the (relatively) large number of users, the continued NSF support, and the significant number of publications that quote M2 as an indispensable research/computational tool in the area. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 15:39, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

: Going through the list, I fixed various links, and added new ones to existing articles. But I also noted some glaring omissions, so I put some redlinks, as a marker (or reminder if you wish) that one should probably have articles about those people. Now, I'm relatively new to Wikipedia (been at it for about a month and a half), so I'm not sure this is the correct procedure. I'm sort of thinking of adding articles on those people, but I'm not sure yet. So what's the right procedure in such a case? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 16:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::You will excuse me for intervening (it is merely that I have your page on my watchlist, since you seemed to want to reply here), but I feel I should tell Arthur Rubin that there is nothing wrong in creating redlinks, and there is no need for them to be deleted or anything. From what I have noticed, some users have misinterpreted a vague (and new?) guideline, and they have probably never found the immense use that redlinks have in editing. One is not supposed to add relevant information only when available, and it is rather absurd to assume that wikipedia has covered all things essential and all redlinks are "trivial" until proven relevant. IMO, you did a great job, Turgidson, and there is no rule you have broken. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 16:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

==Last questions==

::: Thanks for the feedback, [[User:Dahn|Dahn]]. Actually, I've been wondering for a while what to do about these redlinks. I've seen them abused -- e.g., people ranmdomly putting wikilinks around any name that appears in an article. So I've been pretty careful not to do that, except in very select situations, where I really feel that the person in question deserves an article -- as a way of "flagging" things. But the above inquiry from [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] made me nervous about my assumption, so I'd still like to hear his opinion, and possibly more about the subject, which seems to be of some importance, at least to me. Thanks again to both. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 16:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not know what it means to be an admin, and what it means to be a volunteer, but I went through hell to get someone to repair the damage on my biography page -- which was made by some troll whom they blocked 18 months ago, and who had an agenda against me, raising phony doubts. They simply went on in his track, pretended "verification" and "self-promotion", but would not make any search, leaving the page as it looked, damaged. I had to get really angry to get to talk to some halfways mature people: they did the repair, but of course, like in police, covered their younger colleagues. Briefly -- I remained quite disapointed of this environment, so I wanted to ask you: who is allowed to do what, and is there no practical way to get in touch directly with a mature and responsible person, when all kind of button-players seem to miss the point, but enjoy sending you to read all of the unrelated policies? Briefly: is there some escalation line, help line or similar, how does one get competent attitude, in this world? I would be grateful for some simple hints. Thanks!

PM[[User:PredaMi|PredaMi]] ([[User talk:PredaMi|talk]]) 20:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

:::: Creating redlinks in an inherently ''incomplete'' list (such as, for example, [[January 1]]) is questionable at best, and in violation of the instructions of those pages, anyway. However, even in a potentially complete list, such as this one, because of possible name conflicts, (and the fact that most people who create an article don't check the "what links here" page to see if anyone else is referring to it), I think that, unless someone is ''clearly'' notable, one shouldn't create a redlink to his name. If you're willing to monitor the article to make sure that the links are to the correct person, I have no objection to their inclusion, but I think that monitoring ''should be'' a real requirement for the creation of redlinks to persons' names. It's not in the Wikipedia guidelines, but it could harm the article to have redlinks mysteriously become blue by pointing to a different person's article.

(Continuation of : Hello, Mr Turgidson,

:::: It should be pointed out that my first edits to Wikipedia, as an anon, were correcting my name as it appeared in the article; IIRC, there were 3 "Arthur L. Rubin"'s and 1 "Arthur Rubin", which were all me. It should also be pointed out that I did not <u>state</u> that you were violating some rule, although I can see the implication. &mdash; [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] | [[User_talk:Arthur_Rubin|(talk)]] 17:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I contact you since I have seen you are one of the last having done something on my Wiki page, which has been totally messed up. I do not know who is responsible

::::: Thanks for the explanations, I will take them into due consideration. My feeling right now is that this whole thing is debatable. I would like to hear more opinions and/or feedback before solidifying my own opinion on the matter. In the meantime, as before, I will be very cautious in adding a redlink, and use the procedure only sparingly. Also, if you feel that any of the added redlinks on the Putnam page is not valid, please feel free to delete it (some were there before, and some of the previous redlinks I fixed, by redirecting them to the correct pages). And, oh, by the way, congratulations on having won the Putnam four times -- that 's quite a feat! [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 17:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

for the vandalism, nore when this vandalism happened, since I do not visit often my own Wiki page; I do not even know if there is anyone responsible, and I would like indeed to know.

I wish my page to be restaured to its normal state which it has since 15 years, and vandalism be blocked somehow. Or if nobody is responsible for blocking vandalism, let me know.

Hoping you can help me find an answer, I thank you in advance

::::: A follow-up -- one of those redlinks is gone: I created a stub for [[Roger Howe]]. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::::: Upon further thought, I think tend to agree more with [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] than with [[User:Arthur Rubin|Arthur Rubin]] on the potential usefulness of redlinks, at least when used judiciously. As a concrete example, in creating the stub for Roger Howe, I felt the need to put a link to his advisor, [[Calvin Moore|Calvin Cooper Moore]] [http://www.genealogy.ams.org/html/id.phtml?id=32896]. I think this is a justified way to flag the need for a new page. One more example. In editing the page for [[Masaki Kashiwara]], I realized he was a member of the [[French Academy of Sciences]]. I hesitated about creating a new category, but then, in looking for it, I realized there were already two "redlinks" to this category, so I went ahead and started it, at [[:Category:Members of the French Academy of Sciences]]. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 21:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::Thank you. My thoughts exactly: it is rather like the magician trick where, if you pull the sheet away, all objects remain in their place (whereas removing redlinks is usually like taking all those objects, placing them aside, pulling the cloth away, then placing all objects in their original positions). As for redlinks with questioned usefulness: adding them is no different from adding irrelevant links or unwikified idiocies to any text. That is to say that nobody can prevent anyone from adding crap, and that the very same system of supervision and peer review will apply to all irrelevant additions (and, in case it does not apply, it simply means that no one is in the forest to listen to falling trees). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 21:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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==[[Andrei Şerban]]==

Hi. Truly great work on that article. I had just discovered it before noon, and watchlisted it for later cleanup; in the evening, it's spotless! [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

: Thanks. The subject deserves it -- I think he's a great director. Actually, it's rather amazing in hindsight that he did not rate an article (btw, there is none on ro.wiki!) I need to put this aside for a while, and get back to work on non-wiki stuff. But I still think the article could use quite a lot of improvements. Eg, a photograph (but it's almost impossible to find one that passes muster with wiki!), references in the text (but I'm not sure how best to organize that, I still need to learn what's the best way to do it, especially when the sources are so diverse), and perhaps some bulleted lists of plays directed, etc. So much to do, so little time.... [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 21:08, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

::I'm willing to help in the future (I'll work with whatever system of references you decide to use). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 21:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

== Birthdays ==

Hi again -- Sorry, I do not know how to let you know I talk to you, other than writing here. My page was a normal functional one, with a picture and normal text, for 15 years.

See [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of birthdays]]. [[User:R.e.b.|R.e.b.]] 21:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Now someone signaled me, it is a wreck -- and I see that there was a troll Skywalker or so, who boycotted it, and he was then removed, but the page was never restored. What the

: Thanks for letting me know -- I didn't know about the policy, but now that you pointed it out to me, I understand where it comes from. Also, I think I know what prompted this message, so I reverted the change in question. If there is anything else that needs to be done, please let me know (or simply go ahead and change it). Best, [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 21:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

huck of an organisation is this. When it come to censoring a contribution which says things someone does not love to hear, Wiki immediately reacts. But when it comes to restore

after vandalism, nobody around... Is it not possible to restore back to the FUNCTIONING condition before Skywalker jumped it? I talked to you, since my gut feeling was right -- at

least you are a mathematician, I do not know what function you have here or so. So if your are not the right person, do not take it wrong - I simply want my personal page restored

in a decent condition, how it has been around for 15 years. No restore facility around? Or did he succeed to destroy the backlog file?

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==Q: University of Iaşi==

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Hi. I just noticed your contribution to the list. I want to ask you: should we also include faculty who were alumni on the alumni list? I could go either way, but let me know what you think. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 18:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

: Hmmm... I don't know. For example, I made a comment about this issue at the [[University of Leiden]] talk page -- Ideally, more opinions should come into play, before settling on a solution. In the meantime, I would reiterate my suggestion elsewhere: separate categories with faculty and alumni are needed for major Universities such as the one from Iaşi. Once those are in place, and respective links are established, the task would be easier, and more systematic. Makes sense? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 18:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:: Upon further thought, yes, it seems logical to include people who were both alumni and faculty on both lists. I've seen it done elsewhere, come to think of it -- at Princeton, Harvard, Columbia, etc. (At Cambridge and Oxford, though, it's a bit different, and as for the University of Paris, it's very confusing, I find.) At any rate, take [[Dimitrie Gusti]] as a concrete example: he belongs to both lists, right? By the way [[George Pruteanu]] is listed as faculty, but I could not see that mentioned explicitly in the article (only in the Categories). If such list of faculty and/or alumni is to be done well, one should double-check the info, and make sure it's explicitly mentioned in the article about the respective person, I'd say. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:02, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

==Disambiguation link notification for February 1==

Thanks for the response. I agree with your points, but I want to point out that listing is generally easier before categorizing (you end up with just one place from which to select cat entries, and red links stay there as reminders). My main reason for asking was so that I know if I should contribute to both (although it looks like you've currently covered most or even all such entries). About Pruteanu: yes, you're right; I'll remove him until further notice. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 19:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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: I bit the bullett and started those 2 categories. I wouldn't do this for each and every University in Romania, but say, for Bucharest and Iasi (already done) and Cluj, plus a few others, I think it's worth it. By the way, I made a comment in this general area a while ago [[Talk:Dobruja#Byzantines_and_Bulgarians]], but it surely was the wrong forum to address the issue. Is there a better venue to possibly start such a discussion? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::We agree (including on the "not for each and every" issue). It is an interesting point you raise on the Dobruja page, but I think you should look at it from another perspective. As it is, info on natives and culture goes into articles on constituent cities of the region (let's face it, Tulcea County is not much to contemporary culture besides the city of Tulcea); I also think that is where readers expect it to be, and, given the centrist patterns of Romanian administrative geography, if we do not establish a level on which to expand the issue, we would risk duplicating the exact same info on concentric pages (region, county, city). Another thing to consider is that post-1918 cultural references shy away from any mentions of regions (which has left some consequences we would not be able to avoid - such as it becoming a tad ridiculous to refer to the contemporary culture of Wallachia, which is probably not the case of Dobruja or Transylvania). I would add a section on culture for all regions, but I would center it on historical tradition, ethnography, speech patterns et al, and less on universities and theaters (which I could detail in articles on respective cities). As to lists and categories for natives, in a previous discussion with Bogdan and Biruitorul, I raised the issue of creating a "tree" from cities to regions, through counties (eventually, a "List of natives of Dobruja" would be merely a collection of lists to natives of counties; the same for categories, mutatis mutandis). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 19:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::: Tulcea: Well, OK, but still, there is at least someone born there that I heard of: [[Grigore Moisil]]. Dobruja (well, I still think of it as Dobrogea): the point I was trying to make there was that the discussion was too much about historical minutiae (prompted I assume by various ethnic grudges, or whatnot), instead of whatever one could say its contributions to the wider world are in the here and now (or at least, in the past century or so). Which brought me to the fact that no University from that region is even mentioned -- deafening silence, as they say. Universities: I'm thinking of a list -- nothing complicated, to start with. I found one in that ref mentioned there, with some classification scheme which makes some sense. Tree of knowledge, with concentric circles and all the rest: that sounds too ambitious for me! That would be great for an encyclopedia, but it sounds like a year-long project to me, at the very least. Is there enough manpower (and/or willpower) for that? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::Tulcea: what I actually meant was that Tulcea County is not much beyond Tulcea City (where Moisil is from). Dobruja: it is best if we leave most information about it to the realm of history (although this goes into far too many details, and, last time I checked, needed serious copyediting for NPOV); we could establish a culture section, but info there ought to be mostly ethnographic and ethnocultural etc. (which is unlikely to feature in other articles, and which would be a nice and valuable addition, as well as consistent with the fact that, next to history, most present-day references are on ethnography); I would leave other info to be dealt with in articles on cities (consider that a mention about Ovidius Uni is likely to be made in the article on Constanţa, and that natives are about to be detailed there; in general, I avoid listing natives in articles on regions, unless the lists prove to be very short - otherwise, we have to either pointlessly drag a text that could be neatly folded into detailed sections on a tighter geographic level, or select just a few names for the overall list, which strikes me as POV - as a provisional solution in the Transylvania article, where Romanians and Hungarians were engaged in an idiotic battle over how many names of each community should be included, I simply moved it to [[List of Transylvanians]],which has room to grow and can be eventually folded into county sections). Universities: I'm not sure I know what you mean. Tree of natives: it is feasible,perhaps not in one go (it's just that it is boring); hell, if Bogdan has done so much to fill [[:Category:People from Bucharest]], everything is possible :). We are currently [[:Category:People by city in Romania|pretty ok on the city level]], and, if it weren't for inane debates such as the ones on [[Talk:List of people from Iaşi]], I'd have more interest in sorting them out. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::: List of Universities: there is one here, [[List of universities in Romania]], but it's (a) far from complete, (b) more redlinks than bluelinks, (c) gives no sense of quality involved. I guess (a) and (b) can be fixed (with a lot of work for (b)), but (c) would surely be controversial. Still, methodology to do such rankings in a more-or-less objective fashion is being developed, see eg [http://www.ad-astra.ro/universitati/]. Could any of that info be used in wikipedia? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 20:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Good points. What I would do to reflect methodology is to fit them in a table in some [other] objective order (alphabet, city, etc), and list next to each other x rank awarded on y scale. Does this sound like a good idea? [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::Sounds very reasonable to me. Couple of questions, though: would one start from the existing list on wiki, or from the one on ad-astra? I'd say the union of the two, just to make sure -- with the ones not ranked, well, not ranked (and, most likely, but not necessarily, redlinked). Second, is there a copyright issue here (in terms of using the info from that site)? I'd say no (looks public ___domain to me), but I'm not an expert at that... [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 20:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Myself, I would alphabetize (order them irrespective of the ranking, and include the ranking for reference, with an _ or something for those not ranked). I'm don't know much about copyrights, but it looks like the content is [http://www.almamater.md/articles/1322/index.html freely mirrored], and that all you need is to link to the source. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::: OK, this is convincing. I may try to do this at some point, but it will be rather time-consuming, so I would hate to spend the time and effort, only to have someone else duplicate it. I'm not sure what the best procedure is in such a case: should one start a stub, or should one work in a sandbox, or what? Also, btw, I put some somewhat-related comments in the Romania talk page, which were prompted in part by this discussion. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 21:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::::I suggest the sandbox. About the Romanians article: I am slowly but surely losing interest in that article; it has been hijacked by solicists and people with POVs, and there is little info in there that actually connects with the topic of the article (the History section, besides being a rant of cliches, actually relates to Romania and duplicates content; the format is chaotic; the overall feel is embarrassing). Nevertheless, the info you want to add, although it allows me to presume that you have an interesting meritocratic ideal, may be judged not to be of encyclopedic value (it may IMO, but the main problem I see is that it is subject to rapid change, more so than the overall numbers - think about Romanians in Italy and Spain, where demographics are likely to go berserk every now and then). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 21:54, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::::OK, I will try the sanbox -- haven't tried it yet. As for the Romania talk page, I've tried to get the discussion back to something hopefully more meaningful. If it doesn't work, oh well. And, as for the fact that those numbers are fleeeting -- yes, good point. One should focus on longer-term trends, not on snapshots, at least in the context of an encyclopedia. But still, one should also take into account what's "relevant"--it's a balancing act. The fact that Romania produces an educated class of people, a significant proportion of which chooses to go elsewhere, is significant, I think. Maybe a proper place to describe the situation, and put it in a wider context, would be at [[Romanian Education System]], which is in rather poor shape right now, I think (though [[Healthcare in Romania]] is even in worse shape). [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 22:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::::Agreed. (On the issue of the "Education System" article, I remember walking by it, noticing the fact that the title broke wikipedia rules on capitalizations, glancing through it for 5 seconds, my eye starting twitching, and ultimately giving up. If you say the "Healthcare" one is ''worse'', I can't even convince myself to click the link.) [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 22:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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:: Sorry, I'm having some trouble with the alumni category: looks like I also created a separate page (not a category) by mistake. Is there a way to delete it? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::No prob. Done (there were other ways to deal with it, but redirect struck me as the best one to use). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 19:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

::::Thanks! Multi-tasking is too confusing, sometimes. :) [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 19:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::Yep :). It has happened to all of us at some point or another. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hi again. I recently bumped into [[History of Romanian education|this monument]]. It seems that it is connected to what we were talking about, and thus at the core of your interests. The article is pretty much useless as it is, a mess edit-wise, and its POV value is through the roof. Do you think it is worth keeping it at all, or do we merge it with something? [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 16:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

: Omigosh! This is quite a mess. Maybe one can extract some useful info from it, and merge it with something existing, like [[Romanian Education System]], whcih is not much better, but at least has some nice pics. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 16:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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== Vladimir Socor ==

You wrote: "if one wants to engage in a polemic about IASPS, I think that should be done in a separate article, not here."[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vladimir_Socor&diff=105993824&oldid=102117813]

I wholly agree with you, and that has always been my principle in other articles. In this case, however, [[Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies]] is red-lined which is why I added descriptive words afterwards. In light of your concerns, I have now modified this to a version closer to NPOV.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Socor&diff=106042149&oldid=105994183] When [[IASPS]] gets it own stub, let us move the qualifiers and description there. I hope that this addresses your concern and your npov-tag issue. Please note: I may not respond right away, because I am mainly on a wikibreak. [[User:William Mauco|Mauco]] 13:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for supporting my point in [[Alexandru Nicolschi]] article, in [[Securitate]] article some people want to keep mentioning that he was Romanian, I don't see how could that be non-POVish taking into considerations that:

# He was not born in Romania, he was born in imperial Russia.

# He was Jew at least from father side.

# He had Soviet citizenship at the time he entered Romania, and he entered Romania with forged acts to spy against Romania.

If he later on got Romanian citizenship that's something of no consequence and probably not worthy to be mentioned in the context of "who was actually a Romanian born in Bessarabia" which is misleading. -- [[User:AdrianTM|AdrianTM]] 02:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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: I'm not quite sure what to say, since I haven't edited the page on the Securitate, just the one on Alexandru Nicolschi. I remember though being confronted with a similar question when starting the page for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexandru_Nicolschi&oldid=97056912 Nicholschi], sometimes in late December. I used at the time the info coming from the [http://www.memorialsighet.ro/en/sala.asp?id=7 Sighet Museum] ("The position of Director of D.G.S.P. was entrusted to Gheorghe Pintilie (Pantelei Bodnarenko, of Ukrainian origin), who held the rank of General-Lieutenant, while two other Soviet agents were named Deputy Directors, Alexandru Nicolschi (Boris Grünberg, NKVD officer since 1940, from Basarabia) and Vladimir Mazuru (Ukrainian, born in Northern Bukovina) who received the rank of Major General"), but left out the details about ethnic origin, etc. In the present version of the article, this still is the case. Now, how would this apply to the other page you mention, I'm not quite sure, but the facts you lay out seem well established, and accepted by all editors (yes?). So perhaps it's "just" a matter of striking the right balance between saying too little, and dwelling too much on this or that. I know it's easier said than done, but I hope it can be worked out. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 03:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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[[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] thanks for supporting keeping the article Macrohistorical battles tied to the existence of European civilisation. I am also partial to Hanson - I love his explanation of how infantry can withstand cavalry, and his evolution of Roman Legions to Frankish levies. I also loved his analysis of how the Umayyads were able to destroy 2 giant empires on three continents in less than 100 years before Martel put a stop to them, along with the Bzyantines. (and you are right on more battles needing inclusion, especially Lepanto!) I think this article, which I did not write, needs a lot of work, but that the effort to end it is because of POV issues rather than a legitimate need for deletion. Shoot, trying to wrap it into European history would just leave that even longer! [[User:Oldwindybear|old windy bear]] 00:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

: Sure -- no problemo! I'm here to help: still kind of new, and feeling my way around. Although I haven't touched this subject (yet), the discussion about "Macrohistorical battles" piqued my curiosity. It's the first time I heard the word, but after seeing the Hanson mention, I remembered reading a nice article by him on this very subject, and that's what clinched it for me. By the way, and in another vein -- another article of Hanson that stuck in my mind was the one about [[Anabasis (Xenophon)|Xenophon's Anabasis]]. What a gripping story! [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 02:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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::Hanson was also the kicker for me, ironically. I have his book ''Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power'' plus a number of his articles. If you have not read the book, you should, because you will love it! He uses the article on Tours/Poitiers to explain why Frankish infantry was able to stop Islamic cavalry, and the evolution of the infantry in the west from the Greek Hopolites to the Roman Legions, to the Frankish freedman levies. It is fascinating! [[User:Oldwindybear|old windy bear]] 12:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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: Hmmm... Haven't tasted [[Löwenbräu]] lately -- the version available at the corner store is just too watery, and tastes like the tin can in which it is sold. But maybe it tastes better in München, when served fresh from a keg at the [[Hofbräuhaus]]? The beer of the [[Schwarzwald]] is not bad, but again, too thin after one becomes familiar with British-style beers such as [[Stout]], [[Porter (beer)|Porter]], or [[India Pale Ale]], where one can actually taste the [[hops]]. Of course, Belgian beer (for example, [[Leffe]]) is also very interesting, and full of tradition. But, when it comes to [[Stella Artois]], I actually liked better the one brewed in Cluj -- quite crisp, better mountain water, perhaps? I could go on and on the subject, so I better stop -- or write an article about it! [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 20:38, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[:Theodor Burghele]] ==

: Sure, go ahead -- he's put in yeoman work on it. I'll be on a wikibreak for a few days. Take care, [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 13:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Done: [[Marius Oprea]]. <tt class="plainlinks">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</tt> 04:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

:Great! [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 04:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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==Funnies==

Necessary corrections such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emil_Calmanovici&diff=109107016&oldid=109073816 this one] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proclamation_of_Timi%C5%9Foara&curid=1298153&diff=114302041&oldid=114295761 this one] could easily lead to not entirely unfounded suspicions that Dahn is in fact an idiot :D. My defense is rather shabby, I guess: while in the latter case I was reading Deletant's opinion and it originally seemed that Hungary did not have lustration (which lead me to split the text into "Czechia, Poland... and Hungary", forgetting to the details when I looked closer), the former is just me not having a sense of proportions. Anyway, this was mainly to thank you again for being such a careful editor. Cheers, [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 14:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

:Actually, I had also seen the 18,000 km² bit, and thought it was quite odd, but I was not 100% sure what the correct unit of measure should apply, so I waited for someone else to catch and fix it. But for the second bit, there were no ifs or buts, so I went ahead. While at it, one comment: good idea to create [[:Category:Romanian Revolution of 1989]]. I was led to the article about the Proclamation of Timişoara from a different article (on Mad Forest), which also links to this category. Any way to further populate the category? I am not quite sure what the temporal boundaries are -- Timişoara pushes them to March 1990; would, e.g., the [[Golaniad]], from May 1990, still fit into the aftermath of December 1989? [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 15:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

::Interesting questions. The idea for the cat is actually Joe's (well, to quote Arghezi, I could have maid such a nail, but I didn't think about it). Since, as we stand, I'm not touching the revolution article with a 10-foot pole, I just thought I'd operate an emergency intervention and do the minimum necessary. Also, I can theorize that subarticles from the Revolution one could be created in the future (such as one on the Otopeni Massacre, or one two separate ones for Bucharest and Timişoara - detailed as "main article" from their mother).

::The rest is open to scrutiny: I would include both the Mineriad and Golaniad in the cat (or, at least, could see a point in doing so), but I encourage others to take the final decision in this respect. Since we are at it, a subcat for [[:Category:People of the Romanian Revolution of 1989|People of the Romanian Revolution of 1989]] is called for, but bound to be a headache and battleground. What's your say? [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 15:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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== Szekely ==

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Sigismund resigned in favor of Andrew Bathory before Michael entered Transylvania. I believe the event referred in that paragraph is the [[battle of Şelimbăr]]. I won't modify that paragraph until a 24h interval will ellapse to avoid 3RR. [[User:Daizus|Daizus]] 05:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

* If you're sure of that, why not, go ahead. I was just going from what I read in the articles on Sigismund Báthory and Michael the Brave, where their alliance is mentioned. This also corresponded to my dim memories of the subject, but I don't have a history book with me to check. My suggestion though would be to first build the case -- perhaps by starting an article on Andrew Báthory and/or adding explanations in the other relevant articles -- so as to avoid any further confusions in the article on the Székely, which for some reason seems kind of hotly contested. Just a thought, please do whatever you think is best. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 06:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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== Roma minority in Romania ==

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*Ok, thanks for your help on that article. I don't know much about Roma communal leadership, but I was thinking, do these anecdotical disputes really have marginal importance? IMO, they don't seem to reflect the actual grassroots organization that the Roma community has. Please tell me what your opinion is on this.

*Yeah, I'm sorry about all that. I speeded the article late at night (because it met [[WP:CSD#G5|CSD G5]]). Then I went to sleep, and it was only until I got up when I realized the controversy that I had created. Sorry again.

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Since you seem to lend some epitomic significance to the episode of the death of Tănase (…and I agree with this), I may report an amusing story about how news are made:

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On 5th February 2003, under the name of my maternal grandfather (Marin Bărbat), I posted [http://www.karpatenwilli.com/gaeste09.htm here] an anecdote about the death of Tănase. About one year later, [[User: Jmabel]], searching for infos for his newly created [[Constantin Tănase]] comes across my short story, as he notes

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Constantin_T%C4%83nase#German-language_site here], then, he translates it and makes a

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constantin_T%C4%83nase&diff=9497820&oldid=9497816 section] out of it. After several weeks, I accidentally discover Wikipedia and bump into the [[Constantin Tănase]], where I am discovering… my anecdote. I’m posting to Jmabel

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jmabel/Archive_33#Around_Tanase.27s_Death_Story welcoming] this coincidence. (Very interestingly, on the rowiki an account of Tănase’s death reproducing the initial story - in German - was [http://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constantin_T%C4%83nase&diff=147697&oldid=135156 edited]

already in Nv 2005).

Now, here it comes: in January 2007 the [http://www.jurnalul.ro/print.php?id=70009 article] you discovered in Jurnalul Naţional resumes the anecdote in quite identical terms with its German vs. rowiki vs. enwiki versions.

Do we have here to do with a case of circular information ? Anyway, the chronology is: German version, rowikiversion, enwiki version, Jurnalul version, all quite identical. Should we ask Paula Mihailov Chiciuc from the Jurnalul, where she has her story from ? (Wouldn't it be tactless ?) Should Wikipedia have contributed to spreading and legitimating the anecdote my grandparetns used to tell ? Funny....--[[User:Vintila Barbu|Vintilă Barbu]] 18:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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:Oh, if you heard a similar story about Tănase’s death, this is reassuring me, because initially, as I put in circulation this story, I was astonished to note that nobody seemed to have known it, while I always had supposed that the story was a best-known one. Glad to see that I am not the only one left… As for the telefonul fără fir, it’s already here: in the original version Tănase simply disappears shortly after resuming the show with “eu tic, el tac”. In the rowiki, enwiki and especially Jurnalul, Tănase is “found dead” two days after resuming the show. I don’t need to stress which version is more plausible. (Besides, as far as I know, there is no known tomb of Tănase)

:Inasmuch as I am still able to perform serious work and not just anecdote telling, I’ll try completing the Soviet occupation with some more aspects, like “Soviet counsellors”, IMO, a crucial aspect of Sovietisation. As for the title, I reconsidered my choice: it remains “occupation”… unless you accept “Sovietization” … :-) --[[User:Vintila Barbu|Vintilă Barbu]] 19:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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Speaking of the article, I'm going to have to most regretfully suggest that for accuracy you consider removing (!) the accurate diacritics you added in the armistice signatory quote, as it is then no longer quoting verbatim the (English) version. <small>SIGH!</small> And, of course, we haven't even addressed the freely interchangeable Roumania, Rumania, but never Romania.<span style="font-size:9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp; [[User:Vecrumba|Pēters J. Vecrumba]]</span> 18:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)<br>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Unless we know for sure the diacritics were on the original. Given the Soviet system of butchering names transliterated to English (convert native to transliterated Russian, then transliterate to English insuring to ignore the native spelling, for example, yielding "Zveiniex" for the Latvian "Zvejnieks"), I'm surprised the names are as accurate as they even are!<span style="font-size:9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp; [[User:Vecrumba|Pēters J. Vecrumba]]</span> 19:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

...got your message, if you take a look again during editing, you'll see that the Wiki article references all have the appropriate diacritics and almost all already have an article.<span style="font-size:9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp; [[User:Vecrumba|Pēters J. Vecrumba]]</span> 21:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

...looks perfect. :-)<span style="font-size:9pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">&nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp; [[User:Vecrumba|Pēters J. Vecrumba]]</span> 02:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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:The more I am considering about how long “Soviet occupation” lasted, the trickier the issue appears to me… Arguments have been quite exhausted on the talk page. When deciding upon the duration of the Soviet occupation, I would suggest focusing on the direct influence Soviets had on Romanian life rather than on simple military presence. In face of the difficulties and complexities related to the legal status of the Soviet presence, using the criterion of “Soviet direct involvement” in Romanian life, could probably simplify analyse and help circumscribing those aspects relevant for qualifying the presence as occupation. Let me try examples: imposing the Groza gvt. by Visinski in March 1945, the Sovroms (already done), the Soviet counsellors, the Russification measures in education and culture, etc. I am aware of the considerable difficulties in ascertaining “Soviet direct involvement”. What is directly attributable to the Soviet presence and what is only of “Soviet inspiration” ? Was “Piteşti re-education” imposed by Soviets through Nikolski or only Soviet-inspired? Same question for the Danube-channel. Actually, all these dilemmas subsume under “Is a puppet regime an occupation regime ?”. I think not. I vaguely recall some Soviet directives on how newly constituted satellite –countries are to be governed. I should find that document. Probably we should limit – as you say – the “Soviet occupation” to the first years up to the proclamation of the People’s Republic, creating an in-depth article about “the first years of the Communist regime” including of course the Dej era (already as sections in [[Communist Romania]] article), highlighting the Sovietization and the creation, through a puppet regime, of a state mirroring and caricaturing the Soviet Union. (Btw, I think recalling someone having said just after 1945, what the new People’s Romanian Republic will mean: “I.V. Stalin plus I.L. Caragiale”. Anyway, se non è vero, è ben’ trovato. --[[User:Vintila Barbu|Vintilă Barbu]] 09:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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Could I please persuade you not to use "ibid." (or "idem")? Whenever a change is made to the note, it becomes extremely difficult to make changes accordingly. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 19:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

:No prob. It's just that I was going through [[July Theses]] (kudos, btw), and it was demanding to all those changes (the real problem is when a third person decides to edit and doesn't notice, which could make "ibid" references useless and that much harder to correct). To tell the truth, I haven't seen you use that much - this is why I thought I'd stress the potential for problems: it was better for me to let you know now than for us to be revisiting each and every article. I generally adapt my style to what is already in there, but this was something I couldn't help but change. Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience. Cheers. (PS: I was that abrupt because I had the text open in another window and editing it as I posted here.) [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Oh, right - sorry (well, I'm guessing he reads this as well). On the cite formats, i can go with whichever one is used, so I have no clear opinion about that. In case you guys feel more accustomed with one in particular, I will try to abide. Though I'd rather not use the format's metadata (or whatever the script that tells you where to place what portion of the title/name is called) - it's just ugly. In case you want to reach a consensus on this particular issue, i suggest the notice board's talk page (though I must say that, aside from the usual bunch, I suspect most editors on Romanian-related topics won't even know what you're talking about :)). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 21:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi. The root of evil here is that the [[liberation of Romania]] was redirected to [[Soviet occupation of Romania]] by Krohn, which is POV-forking in my opinion (see also the discussion on the [[Talk:Armed_Forces_Day#Liberation of Romania|talk page]]). How should we proceed, should we rewrite the Liberation of Romania article or simply propose it for deletion? Thanks, [[User:Mentatus|Mentatus]] 13:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

:I have proposed splitting [[Soviet occupation of Romania]] into two articles. The [[liberation of Romania]] can then discuss the relative merits of the Romanian and Soviet forces in the liberation. -- [[User:Petri Krohn|Petri Krohn]] 15:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the split, since the liberation and the subsequent occupation are two different things, because simply redirecting the Liberation article to the Soviet occupation of Romania was POV. I don't deny the merit of the Soviet forces (and I think no realistic person would) in driving the German and Hungarian forces out of Romania (the Romanian Army couldn't have achieved that by herself). [[User:Mentatus|Mentatus]] 16:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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As the header says: Happy Easter! [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 10:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

:Well, the 1978 Dictionary says "Aristizza", with no alternative given (I'm guessing it's due to either inconsistency at a time when no alphabet was really set - like for "Hasdeu", "Mateiu", "Millo" etc - or some personal quirk). For the other possible variants, we have redirects. I generally pay little attention to the generic lists, precisely for the reason you indicate (it makes them hard to maintain, but, on the plus side, people who may otherwise destroy articles channel their energies in that area). I suppose linking applies to Strunga as well (I just went with what caught my eye).

:People still come up with that absurd theory about "redlinks being bad", and it is amazing that so many people would rather spend their time disrupting articles in this way, instead of contributing content. It also seems this is powered by cultural imperialism, based on what the average Anglo-Saxon suspects is irrelevant (especially annoying since it is implied that, instead of creating one good article, we should fill the room with one-sentence stubs, so that we may then have to explain, as has happened, if they are notable enough...). I say you needn't worry about the "policy", and, if this keeps going, I'll go and ask Jimbo himself about it.

:Btw, that is a nice article, and long overdue. Congrats. (Minor style suggestion: the opening paragraphs make heavy use of the word "she", which I would replace here and there with a "Popescu", for variety's sake.) [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 22:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for your work on [[Patrick du Val]]. I didn't get around to putting in more details of his work, which I think is currently lacking. I have his obituary from the Bull LMS but I am not so familiar with algebraic geometry. Please feel free to add to it more if you feel so inclined. [[User:Billlion|Billlion]] 08:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==Ang[h]elescu & Lido==

Hi. I agree with you that Angelescu is the most common form. Still, to expand on the issue, I think discussions on what the most common form is are bound to lead us nowhere in some cases of the same period (for example, Mihai or Mişu Pherekyde is also known as Ferechide, Pherekide, Ferekide, Pherechide, Ferekyde, Pherikide, Ferichide, and even Phereckide), so we may have to go with something common instead of looking for the most common, especially since these people are a bit too obscure for a google hits-based decision. This is just to say that Angelescu may be the lucky exception. I don't know why Bogdan hasn't answered, but I see he is being harassed by some users (one of whom is Bonaparte), so I don't blame him in case he decided to distance himself from the project (though I must say it would be a shame). Then again, I have been exceptionally tardy with my own replies over the last weeks - mainly because I started working randomly on some articles that were overdue. Btw, Ornea's books on [[Constantin Stere]] are a superb source on all sorts of people from the 1880-1940 period, but are difficult to search through (I bumped into a lot of info, some of which is about Angelescu, but it will take me time to build them into articles). In the meantime, you could ask another admin for the move.

I cannot really say what the deal with Lido is - the Păunescu businesses, except for B1 TV, are mysteries to me. I agree that we should have an article, but I wouldn't really know where to start (especially since googling it led me to a lot of commercial sites which we would have to avoid in creating the article, making the search more difficult than usual). As you may have noticed, I tend to concentrate my attention on one topic at a time (which, I admit, makes me a difficult person to work with). Though, in case you are in a hurry with the Lido article and want to start it right away, I will be visiting it in the future to see if I can add some stuff. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 16:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

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I'd like to know. It's perfectly legitimate to caution readers against unverified research. In fact, it's imperative. [[User:Wysdom|Wysdom]] 23:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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:I think it would be good if we expand a little the WWI section and maybe add something about the Romanian Anti-communist intervention in Hungary (1919). Also in the current state section, we may add something about the vehicles recently acquired (humvees, piranha IIIc, ghepards) and the native produced: MLI-84 Jders(I couldn't find anything related to this vehicle in the hole wikipedia!), and maybe the modernization of the TR-85. Could you please try to do these things? Cheers, [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 20:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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:::Yes, the WWII can also be expanded. I thing you can name that section "Cold War" or something like this ([[Romanian Air Force]] has a "cold war" section). So can you take care of the history part? And I could take care of current state , present structure, etc?? [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 11:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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::::Turgidson, we have big problems with some images which will be deleted until 7 May if we don't put the proper licence tag(TR-85 image, TABs image and LAROM image). I wrote an email to the Ministry of Defence public relations office, but I don't know how soon they will reply me. I don't know what to do anymore and I think it will be a disaster for the article if those images will be deleted. Oh, image copyright tagging is really the most annoying thing on wikipedia. How can we fix this problem? [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 18:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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:::::No, I uploaded them. Hope the minister will reply me soon (but I really don't believe that). When you are editing the history section you could add some informations about imported weaponry (the Ro Air Force article is a quite good guide), ex: in the cold war section you can something about imported soviet tanks (T-34, T-55, T-72, etc). Best, [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 11:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

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What do you say about that graphic in the present organization? I think it just doesn't belong there. Maybe we should move it...? I really don't know, [[User:Noclador|Noclador]] may get upset if we remove it because he worked a lot on it. [[US Army]] , [[Russian Ground Forces]] and [[British Army]] articles do not have this kind of graphic. Cheers, [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 20:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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:Turgidson, if you are still interested to help in the history part of the [[Romanian Land Forces]] article, I found a good source of you about the sovietization of the romanian army - [http://www.curierul.forter.ro/11arh/191.pdf 1] (page 9). Best, [[User:Eurocopter tigre|Eurocopter tigre]] 18:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

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You are right and I just added the link and changed the expression ref. Braşov County at [[János Apáczai Csere]]. I'll check again the policy and if I am wrong I'll put back the old names. --[[User:Roamataa|Roamataa]] 19:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

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::It's OK, you can call it Cluj (usually in colloquial speech it is called Cluj, but the official name is Cluj-Napoca and has to be used). Now about the issue of double names the point is that I just saw places where the Romanian names are not even specified. In case of Cluj anyway, before 1550 there were many Transylvanian Saxons there, and as far as I know they were for a long time the majority. And this way we could start a new debate which name to use - the Romanian one, the German one or the Hungarian one? But anyway you should think that when a reader will read Kolozsvár will have doubts about what's this city. In my opinion in this situations it should be used the official today English name and should be specified the names most used in that time - this way the reader will know exactly what city is about (something like ... it was in 1430 in Cluj-Napoca (named at that time Kolozsvar, Klausenburg, Cludiopolis or what name it is)). Or something like this. I intend to study the procedures and clarify this. I prefer also to use clear and uniform standards --[[User:Roamataa|Roamataa]] 05:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, if you are or will be on WP these days, may I ask you to please watch [[Traian Băsescu]], giben that it is tagged a current event. I and Dl.goe have copyedited recently some sections of the article, then an old acquentence has rv it. If you feel like copy editting it, please be my guest. I will not mind if someone edits, even massively, incl what you might guess i would disagree, as long as it is honest copyedit, not blant rv without even reading. If you have time and interest...:[[User:Dc76|Dc76]] 16:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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:Hi, thank you very much for your answer. My worry about Traian Basescu, as well as about Soviet occupation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina is mainly b/c it is so easy to vandalize them. Therefore, the "vigilante" attitude. Of course, I do not want to pick on genuine editing, even if I do not agree with the idea. And of course I don't like the vigilante idea, but unfortunately leaving such articles in a desastrous state for 90% of the time is worse.

:I find very interesting and useful your previous idea with International reaction in SOoB&NB, but unfortunately I haven't had yet the possibility to follow it through. The new article is interesting, and I do believe the links you put are justified. One potential problem I see with it, is that some people can blame of Original Research if there is no scholarly sourse in the article that uses the term. Another aspect that I think should at least be mentioned is that Soviet ocupation was in the mind of some/many Russians a re-colonization of what the Russian Empire lost in 1917-20, so in some Russian minds the difference was not too big than French in Algeria for example, or Japanese in China and Korea. If I will find something interesting to birng to that article, I will. Until then, if you need precise translations from Russian, I am available. Have an nice break. bye:[[User:Dc76|Dc76]] 18:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi! But I didn't see any medal. It's ok, just hoping the users will replace photos of 2007 with some newer. Many have changed. [[User:.karellian-24|.karellian-24]] ([[User talk:.karellian-24|talk]]) 20:46, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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A Romanian user, Roamataa began deleting minority language names in the infoboxes, see for example [[Bistra, Maramureş|Bistra]] and [[Moldoveneşti]]. Indeed Roamataa deleted Hungarian names all over the infoxes in Cluj County (about a dozen villages). As far as I know there was a consensus among Romanian users that they accept bilingual infoboxes (with 20 % population limit), and there was no problem with them in the past half year. Please try to speak with Roamataa if it's possible about his campaign. [[User:Zello|Zello]] 00:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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I tried to change and edit a recently deleted article (list): [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Biophys/agents]. But does it really make any sense? What do you think? Thank you. [[User:Biophys|Biophys]] 02:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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Ups! Sorry for the mistake. That's what happens when I read hastily. I'll remove that observation from my comments. Greetings,

:{{Re|SunDawn}} Thanks for the kind note. Much appreciated. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 13:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Any thoughts regarding the best format for the RoLF structure?? Should it remain like is it now, or should it be changed?

Victor12 proposed the next format:

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== Category:ErdősWhy number 2colon? ==

Hi. I noticed that you changed a few <nowiki><math>f: X \to Y</math></nowiki> to <nowiki><math>f\colon X \to Y</math></nowiki>. There does not seem to be any point in doing so. Can you explain your reasoning here? [[User:PatrickR2|PatrickR2]] ([[User talk:PatrickR2|talk]]) 03:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

The category page says the source used is the list from [http://www.oakland.edu/enp The Erdös Number Project]. They give the criteria they use, and I can see, for example, why they consider [[Armand Borel]]'s Erdős number to be 3. If you want to use a different source maybe you should propose that on the category talk page or something. [[User:Ntsimp|Ntsimp]] 04:31, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

:The Erdös Number Project says, "Not normally included are joint editorships, introductions to books written by others, technical reports, problem sessions, problems posed or solved in problem sections of journals, ''seminars'', very elementary textbooks, books on history, memorial or other tributes, biography, translations, bibliographies, or popular works." (emphasis added) Chowla and Borel's joint work was a seminar. Yes, this is arbitrary, but it's the only source claimed for the category. If we're going to use some other source, I think it should be explained on the category page. Don't get me wrong; I'm excited about adding articles to the Erdős number categories. I'm glad you've been doing that for a long time. I recently got the number of articles in the Erdős number 1 category over 100, and a few days ago I started going down the entire list from the Erdös Number Project and adding existing articles to the Erdős number 2 category; I'm almost done with the Bs. I'm just trying to get the category to reflect what it claims to. [[User:Ntsimp|Ntsimp]] 13:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

:I always use \colon (in latex, or in math mode on wikipedia) to denote functions such as <math>f \colon X \to Y.</math> The reason is that this provides the "right" amount of spacing between the function f and the ___domain X (i.e., a tiny bit closer to f than to X), as opposed to the usual : used in normal punctuation, or sometimes in math mode, as in a set delimiter, such as <math>\{ x\in \R : x>0 \}</math>, where : (or the alternative, \mid) uses equal spacing on both sides. I hope this answers your question, but if need be, I can try to dig out a reference where this is explained (I'm sure I learned this tex rule a long time ago from a good source, but I forget right now which one). [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 03:34, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

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::Thanks for the explanation. I have to admit that I never paid attention to this difference between <math>f:X\to Y</math> and <math>f\colon X\to Y</math>. I see now that there is one, but it never bothered me before and still doesn't. I would venture that the number of people bothered by the first version here is an extremely small minority. It does not seem enough to merit these edits, in my opinion. But I see where you are coming from. [[User:PatrickR2|PatrickR2]] ([[User talk:PatrickR2|talk]]) 05:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello there, may I suggest adding language template from Babel to your userpage, so other editors can be aware what languages you know and can help with?--_{<span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|&nbsp;Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&nbsp;]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span>} 05:25, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

:::And actually it could even be debatable which version is "better". [[User:PatrickR2|PatrickR2]] ([[User talk:PatrickR2|talk]]) 05:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

:No problem. Making rude comments about editor's nationality is violation of [[WP:NPA]], assuming bad faith because of it is a violation of [[WP:AGF]] - such user should have been warned and/or blocked for harassing you. PS. Out of curiosity, did you feel my message above was pressuring you in any way?--_{<span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|&nbsp;Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&nbsp;]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span>} 16:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

::::This is the format recommended by the [[American Mathematical Society]], according to their [http://tug.ctan.org/info/short-math-guide/short-math-guide.pdf Short Math Guide for LATEX] (page 12): "Note 1. The : by itself produces a colon with class-3 (relation) spacing. The command \colon produces special spacing for use in constructions such as <math>f \colon A\to B.</math>" [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 11:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

::Ah, Vlad. Well, he was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Vlad_fedorov blocked for 1 month] for, among other things, such incivility. In the future, you can report such incidents to [[WP:ANI]] (unfortunatly, a dedicated place to this, [[WP:PAIN]] and [[WP:RFI]], were taken down, long story...). Dealing with incivility is not easy and not pleasant, but we cannot allow Wikipedia to be turned into second Usenet of incivil troll haven.--_{<span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|&nbsp;Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&nbsp;]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span>} 18:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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<blockquote>'''References are all connected to the subject of the article. No evidence of independent notability.'''</blockquote>

Yes, and I'll fix it. Sorry. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 23:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

:Hm. Given that it is clearly copyrighted material, I would have to say that the first step is to revert it. However, I have a few modest proposals: since you worked on the text, you could sandbox it to save your work, and then expand on it/modify it; me and Biru were discussing a common project of randomly expanding an article on some Romanian politician of the 1800s as an informal collaboration, and your name also came up in the process - as an editor who may be interested in this. With this in mind, we could pick MK and, say, work together in the same sandbox (at your convenience). In fact, when I proposed this, Biru mentioned MK as a likely choice, and I tended to agree.

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:Still, over the following day or so, I'm not going to be as active as usual - I tend to take breaks after [[Ion Heliade Rădulescu|making major edits]] (feel free to copyedit, byw), and, as you know, something infuriating is going on in certain articles (making me rather depressed). But, in case you agree with the proposals, we'll start it in due time. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 18:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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::Righteous. I guess I will see the sandbox the moment you create it (it usually links to this page, which I have watchlisted). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 19:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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<blockquote>Your guidance has yet again blossomed: the Project is going to be Kogălniceanu, if you agree to it. It came about by accident in a chat I had with Turgidson, and the idea is that he is going to sandbox is for us to work on. Which is nice, because I have a comprehensive article on all his family to cite from. There is the matter of how to avoid edit conflicts; my proposal is that we use the text already present as a template on which to add from other sources. We then map out a plan on how the article should be structured to trace the main events and avoid repetition, while figuring out what future or present articles link to the page and where (kinda like what we planned with the labor movement); for example, we could have a ''Main article: [[Dacia Literară]]'', a ''Main article: [[Cuvânt pentru deschiderea cursului de istorie naţională]]'', a ''Main article: [[Secularization of monastery estates in Romania]]'' (or just links to all of these in the text, depending on what sources dictate to us). We then each indicate our sources - we divide those we all have access to among us, and then we each introduce from his side to the text already in there. More or less the same thing for sources only one of us have access to. The best way to do this is, basically, to add everything relevant from each source, one source at a time (we could each start editing in one go, and mark an edit summary as "done" when we have finished). Sounds like a plan?<br>

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:Fine by me. Here is what I propose: as an initial step, I will rephrase the text already in there, and add notes to it as a reference. Then I will merge with info from a Magazin Ist article. I'll most likely finish this tonight, but I may have to interrupt it for a while. I left further details on how I think we can go about it from there in my previous message.

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:Just to be clear: did you mean you prefer American English? [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 14:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

::Perfect (and yes, I too prefer American - it is just that I was under the impression that you tend to edit in British). Btw, it just occurred to me: we can tag it <nowiki>{{inuse}}</nowiki> when we want to avoid edit conflicts (unless we all tag it "inuse" at the same time, it should work out fine). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 14:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you again for everything. I put MK on hold for just a bit - only to fill out a related redlink which I will soon unveil for the world to see. Btw, I'm now aware I left unanswered a comment you made on an unrelated talk page - I want to assure it is not because I ignored it; until recently, I simply did not see it my edit history, and then I postponed it until it is acknowledged that a particular user has flown too close to the Sun. Hope you didn't feel offended, but I simply did not want to give him the opportunity to make other speculations about the nature of my contributions. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 20:19, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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:Damn, I didn't notice you were editing at the same time. I apologize for any edit conflicts. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 23:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Hello, can you help us revert the changes made to Romania's geographical position which indicate the crossroads version including the given sources, the account that kept charging was banned for sockpuppetry

Thank you [[User:Andymxm|Andymxm]] ([[User talk:Andymxm|talk]]) 13:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I've noticed your good contributions to that article. I just wanted to ask you for a favour, can you, please, withhold from reverting [[projective resolution]] to [[projective module]]? I know it's a redirect at the moment, but there are a couple of reasons to do it this way. Firstly, sooner or later projective resolution will become a separate article, and it's good to keep this option so that the link is more precise (in fact, even now it's possible to redirect to a section in Projective module). Secondly, there is a danger that someone editing this article will remove the wikilink to projective module that appears twice in the same sentence, once as projective module and once as projective resolution. That would be worse than having a redirect. Please, let me know what you think. [[User:Arcfrk|Arcfrk]] 04:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

* OK, thanks for letting me know. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 14:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

==A sourceGas youfield mayarticles find useful==

Hi. I was expanding the article on [[Serge Moscovici]] (with what I could - his contribution to psychology is beyond my reach). Anyways, I found [http://www.idee.ro/holocaust/pdf/mem_supr.pdf this pdf], which you might find useful for the article on the Soviet occupation (I have taken the latter off my watchlist a long time ago, when I noticed the two sides were simply talking past each other, and unsourced or plain idiotic claims were being introduced in the text). Anyway, the pdf is probably among the most useful third-party ones we will ever find on this subject, and has some very lucid accounts while tapping into sources that are usually ignored. Aside from its immense uses in other articles, see the sections about what the Soviet army was noted for by Holocaust survivors, Moscovici included (the pages are not numbered, but the relevant information is present around the references marked 40 to 50, afaict).

Thanks for your work on these!

I will probably pay some attention to that article in the future, but it is just too heated for me as it is. As a side note: I don't know if anyone noticed when I brought it up in the past (several times!), but the info about what one of the sides wants to call "liberation" (i.e. 1944, not 1954!), is best directed at the [[Battle of Romania (1944)]] article. I mean, what use would that article have otherwise?

FYI, I have made a summary list of articles and their proposed deletion status at [[User:A. B./Sandbox2]].

Hope this helps clarify some stuff on that page. Cheers, [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 12:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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: Thanks for the words of encouragement; I can certainly use some in the face of the relentless deletion juggernaut I am confronted with, one that can never be satisfied, no matter how many pertinent facts and references I adduce. And that's not an easy task, given the rather esoteric nature of the subject, and also because I do not have an infinite amount of time to deal with this. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 05:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:Complicated stuff. Well, here's my view, in case Piotrus gets his vote (I do not object to his proposal, we can work with and around it). We keep "occupation" for the overlap, and "main article" it to whatever articles are established by use. For the liberation of Bucharest, we could simply expand on the King Michael Coup, as a section at the very end of the article (with a "main" to whatever). We could then expand on the fighting in Transylvania in the [[Northern Transylvania]] article, using much the same system. In addition, we could add stuff on both at the end of "Iassy-Kishinev Offensive". Then we tie them all with a ribbon and summarize whatever is to summarize in the "Romania during WWII" and "Communist Romania" articles. I well and truly hate clutter articles and POV-forks of the kind some users on both sides feel like creating, and I think anything can be voiced informatively and NPOV, no matter what system we end up with (I just glanced over the Soviet occupation article again, and I note it breaks with about a gazillion guidelines). What do you think?

::If you're satisfied with the references, just remove the proposed deletion tag. See [[WP:PROD#Objecting]]. At that point, deletion can only occur at [[WP:AfD|AfD]] where other editors can evaluate your sources.

::Also, a few days ago, I added some references to the bottom of [[List of natural gas fields in Romania]] - perhaps they can help some of these fields. --<span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Futura">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] ^{([[User talk:A. B.|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A. B.|contribs]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/A._B.|global count]])}</span></span> 05:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

:::OK, thanks for the advice. I will look at those added references, but not right now, I'm out of gas. :-) [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 06:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

::::Thank you for all the work you've done!

:Serge and Henri don't appear to be related, afaict. Then again, I know nothing about Henri (to my shame). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 12:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

::::I've updated [[User:A. B./Sandbox2]] to reflect the latest changes including recent additional proposed deletions. --<span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Futura">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] ^{([[User talk:A. B.|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/A. B.|contribs]] • [[Special:CentralAuth/A._B.|global count]])}</span></span> 07:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

== RFC on [[User:Petri Krohn|Petri Krohn]] ==

== I have sent you a note about a page you started ==

In response to calls to this effect on the [[User talk:Digwuren/Petri Krohn|talk page]], I'm moving forward with the [[WP:RFC/U]] with only the last six weeks worth of edits fully classified. Please take a look at [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn]], which, after minor editing and addition of the most recent 'interesting' diffs, is supposed to become the main RFC around 21:00 UTC tonight. If there are reasons barring you from endorsing the current summary, I would like to learn about them as soon as possible so the main summary can be endorsed by as wide a coalition as possible.

Hello, Turgidson. Thank you for your work on [[Mamu gas field]]. [[User:Ingratis]], while examining this page as a part of our [[WP:NPP|page curation process]], had the following comments:

Thanks in advance. [[User:Digwuren|Digwuren]] 15:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

{{Bq|1=Thanks for creating this article, which I've reviewed, as the sources you've added seem fine to me. I was sorry to see from the above that you've been having deletion problems - it seems to be the flavour of the times, unfortunately. Nil carborundum.}} [[User:Ingratis|Ingratis]] ([[User talk:Ingratis|talk]]) 10:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Improper_image For your information].:[[User:Dc76|Dc76]] 18:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thank you very much for the kind words. OK, keep on truckin'. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] ([[User talk:Turgidson#top|talk]]) 14:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

== [[WP:RFC/U]] on [[User:Petri Krohn|Petri Krohn]] filed ==

== Note ==

You might be interested to know that [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn]] has been filed. [[User:Digwuren|Digwuren]] 20:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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if you see soon, just by clicking few names shows roster section is outdated, appreciate if can help. sadly some pages arent checked often so users do as pleased [[Special:Contributions/93.138.234.163|93.138.234.163]] ([[User talk:93.138.234.163|talk]]) 15:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

My apoliges are presented [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Petri_Krohn&diff=139452749&oldid=139421403 here]. -- [[User:Petri Krohn|Petri Krohn]] 16:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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I didn't get a chance to reply and clarify a bit what must have seemed like cryptic posts On the Soviet occupation: the problems I see mainly have to do with copyediting, and were probably caused by the constant warring - we probably share the overall perspective on what that article needs to look like. For example, though I did propose applying "Soviet presence" (which could cover the meaning), with "occupation" as the alternative and secondary name, if consensus was reached on the name, then "occupation" should be the title and bold-letters "presence" in the first line of the article. Other stuff involves casual, incomplete and competing formats in references, superfluous language icons, overlinking, etc.

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I'm glad Biruitorul cited me on the "not disputed if a bunch of wikipedians state it is disputed" thing, since I that exact same attitude in respect to Anonimu's arguments. Furthermore, and you can quote me on this, establishing a name should not rely on what sources "do not" say (ie: sources that do not use the term "occupation"), but on what sources do say (ie: sources who explicitly argue that it ''was not'' an occupation); this, of course, in the event that sources "not" discussing the occupation or arguing that it was not one exist and are not solely of the "Party lectures on history" kind. My main point about the Holocaust survivors' paper was a bit vague, I guess, and I did not gather from your answer that you had noticed my point, so, just in case, I will clarify it: somewhere around references 30-50, after discussion on the liberation from camp et al, there is a very interesting testimonial on the negative effects of Soviet presence (stuff such as "you're free from the camps, now come and work for us in Central Asia"). This may, among other such accounts, give a fuller picture of the events, and one would think that the "Legionaries and their Waffen allies vs. The Liberators" canard* will take an additional blow (just in case it was required). I can only help my comments will prove helpful.

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On an unrelated issue: it may seem like I hogged the Kogălniceanu project for a while now, given that I introduced the "to do" with the words "what ''I'' plan to do next"; well, to be sure, I never did mean it sound like "let's see you watching me do it", and nor do I want it to seem like I'm telling you to add the stuff yourself - unless, of course, you want to (and I am aware of the fact that you may wish to invest your energies elsewhere for now). In case you do want to, you could jump ahead of me in using the "to do" goals, and you can just as well discard them altogether. It's really up to you.

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I can never thank you enough for your kind and supportive words in relation to many other issues. I was a bit backlogged these days, for which I apologize. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 09:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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<nowiki>*</nowiki>well, I did see the "this comrade is under attack" picture - I have to say that I never pictured Biru that out of shape, and Anonimu with that much talent for drawing :). I don't know if I'm in supposed to be one of the guys that group portrait, but then again, some would say I feature prominently in [[:Image:WhiteArmyPropagandaPosterOfTrotsky.jpg|this one]] ;).

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:I simply reverted it to your version, since what that personal political statements in article spaces is clearly not the way to go (though, I have to say, the article in both stages leaves a lot to be pine for).

Thank you for helping to improve the article on [[Adriana Georgescu-Cosmovici]], much appreciated!

[[User:GnocchiFan|GnocchiFan]] ([[User talk:GnocchiFan|talk]]) 07:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

:About moving MK, it really is up to you (though, in case you want to do it soon, allow me to fill in the Freemason stuff first - it is what I was going to do next). It's a shame that you haven't seen the picture: perhaps not Hieronymus (it looked more [[Steve Ditko|Ditkoesque]] in style, and reminiscent of [[Captain Planet|other great works]]), but worth every piece-of-colored-paper-I-used-to-pretend-was-money-when-I-was-a-kid. [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 13:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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I loved the Nixon analogy ;). [[User:Dahn|Dahn]] 13:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

That does happen once in a while. Your options would be to (a) revert the edit yourself and then redo it if it's that important, (b) just make another minor edit to the article so that you can use "Prior edit was by me but the system logged me out by accident" or something like that as your edit summary, or (c) just let it go as not the end of the world. But it isn't really the kind of thing that would be a major priority for an administrator to step in and delete the prior edit — that's a thing we can do in extreme circumstances (like when an edit contains extreme BLP violations or tries to dox the home address and phone number of an individual), but not a thing an administrator would normally be authorized to do in a minor-inconvenience situation that you have other alternatives to resolve yourself. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 14:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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:: Thanks, [[User:Dc76|Dc76]], for answering the question — you obviously know much more about this issue. Indeed, it would seem appropriate to have a more in-depth coverage of the subject. Let me know if I can help. [[User:Turgidson|Turgidson]] 17:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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:::No. I do not know much more about the issue. It just happened that I ran across this information more often than you. "To know" means to study it in depth, which I almost never did, everything was out of sheer curriousity for me. There is insuficient bibliography, but even the one that is, is already in many dosens of books and articles, etc. Let me paraphrase Dahn a bit and say that someone is definitively studying this in depth nowadays, and all we need is to find these sourses. If I'll have more time, next weeks/months I'll try copiling a list of such sourses, and post it on my userpage, so that people can add items to it, and know what books exist, what to find, where. At least a very provisional list. And that is something, you definitevely could help with. I will let you know when I progress a bit more.:[[User:Dc76|Dc76]] 17:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)