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== Criticism (Opinion) ==

==Copyvio history for this article==

*Deleted (under the original title [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Michael+Crow Michael Crow]) as a blatant copyright violation from [http://www.asu.edu/president/meetthepresident www.asu.edu/president/meetthepresident] on 27 March 2006

*Recreated, again with copyvio, blanked and new non-copyvio version begun at [[Michael Crow/Temp]] on 21 May 2006

*Article deleted and replaced with content of [[Michael Crow/Temp]] on 12 June 2006

*Copyvio re-added with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=108723357&oldid=108674983 this edit] on 16 February 2007

*Copyvio partially removed with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=165712388&oldid=165711690 this edit] on 19 October 2007

*Copyvio from [http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow] re-added with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=next&oldid=327491025 this edit] on 23 November 2009

*Copyvio [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Michael+M.+Crow removed and revisions containing it deleted] on 20 November 2011

*Copyvio from [http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow] re-added with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=prev&oldid=505012345 this edit] on 31 July 2012

*Copyvio [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=next&oldid=523232186 removed] on 16 November 2012

*Copyvio from [http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow] re-added with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=523374238&oldid=523305850 this edit] on 16 November 2012

*Copyvio [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=523374924&oldid=523374377 removed] on 16 November 2012

*Copyvio from [http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow] re-added 4 January 2013 (twice), 11 January 2013 (twice), and 5 February 2013 by three anonymous IPs tracing back to ASU ([[Special:Contributions/149.169.164.12|149.169.164.12]], [[Special:Contributions/149.169.244.244|149.169.244.244]], and [[Special:Contributions/149.169.212.82|149.169.212.82]]).

*Copyvio removed 4 January 2013 (twice), 11 January 2013, 12 January 2013, 5 February 2013. All copyvio versions from 4 January to 5 February 2013 [[WP:REVDEL|revision deleted]] on 5 February 2013 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Michael+M.+Crow]

- [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 09:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC) <small> Updated by [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 06:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)</small>

== Article stubbed ==

"Michael Crow has 'corporatized' Arizona State University, creating an environment of market-like competition. This model may be appropriate for corporations, however the purpose of a university is not to maximize profit. Some aspects of his leadership are distancing the university administration from both students and faculty. He also encourages tuition increases at a rate which many believe to be beyond reason." -Anonymous

I have stubbed this article for several reasons. First and foremost, almost all of it was a blatant violation of Wikipedia's [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright policies]] — virtually verbatim from [http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow]. Even if it had been released under a free license, its tone was wildly unencyclopedic [[Public relations|"PR-speak"]] and basically an advertisement for the university. Secondly, there are BLP concerns with the addition of unsourced rumours and [[WP:COATRACK|coat-racking]]. Thirdly, the material about Obama speaking at the commencement is pertinent to the university's article not to Crow's.

"[[Arizona State University]] is a traditional university, and Michael Crow is attempting to transform it into what he regards as 'The New American University.' Like any organization, many people aren't comfortable with change, and they need to be convinced that the new way is truly the better way. Where Dr. Crow fails as a leader, is in failing to actively convince people of the need for his change initiatives. He leads in a very top down 'theory X' manner, rather than a collaborative and inspirational way. People are afraid to openly criticize Dr. Crow for fear of punishment or adverse retribution. Perhaps to some extent he does use enthusiasm to motivate and inspire people, but he also leads by fear. To those around him in his inner circle of friends and educators he may be a passionate and impressive man, but to many in the university he is just a name - pushing changes for which no rationale or reason is provided. Dr. Crow needs to work on being more like [[Martin Luther King]], and less like [[Darth Vader]]." -Anonymous

Editors are welcome to build this article back up but you must do so '''in your own words''' and write in a '''[[WP:NPOV|neutral, non-promotional]]''', encyclopedic tone. This is an encyclopedia article and a '''biography''', not the university's brochure nor a soapbox for factions who are critical of him and the university. A balanced article can and should include criticism, provided it is not given undue weight and is meticulously sourced to reliable independent publications, and no, cfraa.org is not one of them. I've checked the edit history of this article, which seems to be a series of subtle edit wars between those determined to use it for the university's PR and those who are determined to use it to express their grievances about the university in general, but are using this biography to do it, i.e. [[Wikipedia:Coatrack|coatracking]]. '''Neither''' of these approaches is appropriate or acceptable. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 07:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

"Dr. Crow is well known in the Phoenix area to be a controversial leader. He has had several confrontations with local media and less well publicized confrontations with government officials."

*I strongly urge both sides involved here to collaborate on this talk page as to how to best take this article forward. Before you do, please familiarize yourselves thoroughly with our policies on [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]], [[WP:NPOV|neutrality]], and [[WP:VERIFY|verifiability]]. And while you're at it, look up "biography" in a dictionary. As a so-called "biography" this article was absolutely dreadful and profoundly uninformative with virtually no information on this person's actual life prior to assuming the presidency of the Arizona University 10 years ago. If you can't collaborate to ensure that this develops as a proper encyclopedia article, I will not hesitate to bring these issues to the [[WP:BLPN|Biographies of Living Persons Noticeboard]]. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 08:13, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

It's not unverifiable at all. Do a search on "Michael Crow" and you can find numerous written articles specifically criticizing his leadership. The [[Phoenix New Times]] has published many of them. I don't think it's a stretch to call him controversial, neither is that an unfavorable accusation anyhow. If you want verification, speak with university students, speak with his subordinates (with the promise of anonymity of course). He IS controversial, loved and hated by people passionately. The public criticism is beyond what other public figures attract. The two statements above are very general, and only scratch the surface of accusations made against him. Read [http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-04-26/news/asu-inc/ ASU Inc] if you would like to explore more about Crow's controversial leadership.

*'''Update''' I have re-expanded the article with a basic biography that covers Crow's academic and personal life up to and including his appointment as the current President of ASU. At some point, it would be useful to have a subsection in the biography covering his tenure at ASU in more detail. However, this should be '''impeccably sourced''' with a neutral point of view and without undue weight given to "controversies". If you are from the ASU press office or are a disgruntled student or employee of the university, you are almost certainly not the best editors to take on such a section. Some of the stuff that has previously appeared in this article has been quite ridiculous, from blaming Crow for a shortage of parking places to the alleged "censoring' of some of the more puerile stunts in the student newspaper. Others were verging on the libellous. Conversely, an airbrushed hagiography stands out a mile away and actually detracts from the subject's reputation rather than enhancing it. The articles in the [[Michael_M._Crow#External_links|External links section]] from ''[[USA Today]]'' and the ''[[Arizona Republic]]'' are probably the best independent sources to start with for writing the subsection. Material from the article in the ''[[Phoenix New Times]]'', should only be used if it can be corroborated by other sources. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 17:51, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it would be fair and balanced for the page entry to explore such strong opinions about him, and I think it is positively skewed to exclude them. Crow has hecklers, like any leader, and perhaps gets personally attacked for his actions, but again, we need to be fair and balanced.

== Please observe talk page guidelines! ==

== Plagiarism of original content ==

I have just finished restoring this talk page and archiving the pre-2011 discussions to [[Talk:Michael M. Crow/Archive 1]]. Over the years, multiple messages have been deleted, signatures deleted, messages moved etc. The most recent occurrence was today. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMichael_M._Crow&diff=525556483&oldid=523526217]. Talk pages are meant to be a complete record of the discussions. Deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, and especially removing or altering the messages of other editors. See [[WP:Talk]] for an explanation of how to conduct yourselves on article talk pages and the rare circumstances when it ''may'' be legitimate to delete or refactor a comment, e.g. defamation, copyright violation, a severe personal attack on another editor, or off-topic chat/nonsense. The majority of the illegitimate comment deletions were done by [[IP address|IPs]] tracing to [[Arizona State University]]. If you keep this up, you are liable to find yourselves blocked. So cut it out. Note also:

CORRECTION: Original source of the text cited in the false accusation below - www.asu.edu/president/meetthepresident.

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[[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 18:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request on 18 February 2013 ==

This page was largely plagiarized by user Mdesquer on 23:36, 16 February 2007. I have found the original source of Mdesquer's information, which is verbatim off a press release page on NAU's website [http://www4.nau.edu/president/communications/speakers/crow.asp here]. Although the information started out as blatant plagiarism, the page has since changed somewhat, and obviously in the process of changing further. So copyright violation should not be an issue with more work and a few more iterations. To answer the question of why it doesn't seem objective, the original was not written objectively, but it was in fact a positively skewed press release. I have added facts, as well as added a criticism section, which should be maintained and even expanded to promote balance.

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So, apparently the material wasn't plagiarized from NAU's website, but from ASU's website. Makes no difference, just the same, someone copied over material without citing the source. The fact that it is an official page on the servers of Micheal Crow's university only emphasizes that the source material is positively skewed.

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The external links and news media references are presently biased in a self-promotional manner by Michael Crow. He is a very controversial figure in the community and the community at large. Therefore I suggest adding some balance and reference the following new articles:

"Once Collegial, Research Schools Now Mean Business", B. Wysocki, Jr. Wall Street Journal, May 4, 2006.

== New page started ==

ASU's True Colors, Jana Bommersbach, August 2009, Phoenix Magazine, page 152.

I've started a new page at [[Michael Crow/Temp]], without copyvio and hopefully without quite so much PR puffery. -- [[User:Kazrak|Kazrak]] 04:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I would also suggest deleting several of the current references which are largely PR pieces for Michael Crow, to make the number of such PR pieces be balanced by these two and the ASU, Inc. article by Megan Irwin.

In reality, Micheal Crow's clashes with the The State Press are minor and insignificant, and the "Clashes" section is flagrant self aggrandization by someone who obviously is or was employed by The State Press.

The external link to the President's web site is quite self promotional. If this will be included in the article, I would suggest also linking to the site of Citizen's For Responsible Administration of ASU, which provides a different perspective on Michael Crow's administration. http://cfraa.org.

There should be more emphasis on ASU's drastic climb in rankings since he took office, rather than petty accusations on who he upset at the school's newspaper. [[User:162.135.0.6|162.135.0.6]] 00:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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==Clashes with the ''State Press''==

[[User:Asusparky|Asusparky]] ([[User talk:Asusparky|talk]]) 00:28, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

It should be noted that President Michael Crow's actual request of the State Press was that the newspaper establish a formal editorial policy in order to address inquiries regarding the publication's content. [[User:Mdesquer|Mdesquer]] 23:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

:All of the external links except for the link to the ASU Office of the President website are inappropriate under the [[WP:EL|external links policy]] and have been removed. I have incubated them here on the talk page just in case they are useful for verifying ''specific'' statements made about Mr. Crow on the article.

:The external link to the ASU Office of the President website ''is'' appropriate and I will not remove it. I will also not add a link to a website that exists specifically to criticize the article subject, unless that website is used to verify ''specific'' statements made in the article.

:As for the article as a whole, I see no overly promotional tone. I have seen many, many blatantly promotional articles and this does not fall into that category. If the "controversy" on Mr. Crow is as well-documented as you indicate, please provide text to add to a new "Controversy" or "Criticism" section. Keep in mind that since this is a [[WP:BLP|biography of a living person]], any contentious information about him must be referenced to [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] and appropriate weight must be given to such discussion. This article cannot become a [[WP:COATRACK|coatrack]] for a group or multiple groups' criticism of Mr. Crow. Cheers, &mdash;<span style="color:#808080">[[User:Kuyabribri|'''KuyaBriBri''']]</span>^{<span style="color:#008080">[[User_Talk:Kuyabribri|''Talk'']]</span>} 17:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

*'''Press articles'''

**Irwin, Megan (26 April 2007). [http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-04-26/news/asu-inc/ "ASU, Inc"]. ''[[Phoenix New Times]]''.

**MacEachern, Doug (14 December 2007). [http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special48/articles/1214crow1216-ON.html "ASU's Michael Crow first 5 years"]. ''[[Arizona Republic]]''

**Pope, Justin (25 March 2007). [http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-03-24-asu_N.htm "Arizona St. strives for simultaneous growth, quality"] ''[[USA Today]]'' *(via [[Associated Press]])

**Stripling, Jack (16 July 2010). [http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-07-16-ihe-arizona-state_N.htm "Arizona State U. has problems, just how its president likes it"], ''[[USA Today]]''

**''[[Time Magazine]]'' (11 November 2009). [http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937938_1937933_1937917,00.html/ "10 Best College Presidents: Michael M. Crow"]

== New Controversy Section ==

As per the suggestion of the editor, I have added a Controversy section, which documents the controversies which Michael Crow's administration of ASU has raised as well as how these appear to be a style of Michael Crow, rather than simply something the ASU administration has done.

In 2003, a memorable '''''[[State Press]]''''' spoof cover featured a simulated photo of ASU president [[Michael Crow]] passed out in a bathtub, with vomit on his shirt and a bottle of cheap vodka cradled on his arm. Crow later complained about the photo to the '''''State Press''''' editorial board.

The Phoenix New Times article documenting the K. Milun case is an important document to reference, because the settlement of that case allegedly contained clauses preventing Dr. Milun from further discussing the case. It should also be noted that such a sealed case settlement is contrary to the public interest and is likely contrary to law in the state of Arizona.

In spring 2004, an article about alleged mistreatment of employees at ASU's Department of Residential Life was criticized as one-sided by the department.

In reviewing the data on this controversy, it is also important to note that Michael Crow's administration has a well-paid PR machine, which constantly pressures the local press here in Phoenix to run promotional articles. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Asusparky|Asusparky]] ([[User talk:Asusparky|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Asusparky|contribs]]) 18:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

State Press Magazine created a stir in fall 2004 by publishing a full-page cover photo of a woman's naked, pierced breast on its cover; the publication drew criticism from prominent conservatives and ASU boosters such as Ira Fulton, who felt the university's administration needed to have more oversight regarding editorial decisions.

:No, what I suggested was:

:''"At some point, it would be useful to have a subsection in the biography covering his tenure at ASU in more detail. However, this should be impeccably sourced with a neutral point of view and without undue weight given to 'controversies'."''

The incident may have led to the actions alleged in a November 2004 [[Phoenix New Times]] article, "Quid Pro Crow: ASU's president puts the squeeze on freedom of speech to please his biggest donor" [http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issues/2004-11-18/news/feature.html Quid Pro Crow]. The article drew national attention and was featured on several media news Web sites. The paper also won an award for the way it handled pressure from the administration concerning content.

:As I also pointed out above, as a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moonriddengirl&diff=prev&oldid=523233815 self-admitted] editor of a website entirely devoted to criticising Crow (cfraa.org), you are probably the last person (along with Crow's office at ASU) who should attempt such a section. I have copy edited the section considerably and added further references.

:I removed references to primary court documents per [[WP:BLPPRIMARY|our BLP policy]], and kept only 3rd party reports of the case. I have also removed an article which is not hosted on the sites of either the author, or the magazine in which it was purported to be published, but is instead hosted on your website. I have renamed the section which was basically about his management style, along with criticisms of it as "Presidency of Arizona State University", and made it a sub-section of his biography. In general [[Wikipedia:Criticism|"Controversy" or "Criticism" sections]] (titled as such) give undue weight to criticism. In this case, the "controversies" consist of 3 lawsuits brought against ASU and 1 against Columbia, all of them by professors who had lost their jobs and/or funding. None of them were brought against him personally. Two of them were settled out of court, and two of them have been unsuccessful. It is also good practice to specify the sources of the criticism and praise in the text of the article rather than presenting them in Wikipedia's voice. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 09:42, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

=="Controversy" section re [[Theresa Cameron]]==

I have removed this section which an anonymous IP has repeatedly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=571278348&oldid=563675062], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_M._Crow&diff=next&oldid=571286195] tried to add:

#This is not a "controversy" pertaining to Crow, and it is an unsubstantiated distortion. It is a controversy (if at all) pertaining to [[Theresa Cameron]]. Crow sent the letter of dismissal to her on the recommendation of the (then) Dean, [[Wellington Reiter]]. In the ''Phoenix Magazine'' report of the court case against ASU (note that it was <u>not</u> a lawsuit against Crow), Cameron is reported as admitting she could not personally point to any evidence that showed Crow had discriminated against her. [http://www.phoenixmag.com/lifestyle/valley-news/201109/asu-discrimination-case/ "The jury deliberated and dismissed Cameron’s claims. Allegations of gender discrimination, disability discrimination and denial of due process were also dismissed by the court earlier in the trial process."]. This reference from ''Phoenix Magazine'' in no way characterises this as a "controversy". Additionally, there is no evidence of enduring, widespread, and significant press coverage of this event to justify its inclusion here. Instead what we have is a brief article in a local magazine factually reporting that that the court case was dismissed by the jury and an opinion post in a blog with 3 comments. See also my comments above concerning "controversy" sections.

#There are no reliable sourced supporting the claim ''"Dr. Cameron was seen by many members of the academic community as arbitrary, unfair, and discriminatory"''. The only reference given is the opinion of one person in a blog posting who claimed her dismissal was unfair. Please read [[WP:Reliable sources]], particularly as they pertain to the [[WP:BLP|Biographies of Living persons]].

#Neither of the two sources supports any of the following claims:

::''"Copying material onto syllabi, however, is widely regarded as common practice among professors"''

::''"Dr. Cameron's firing is the only known case of a tenured faculty member being fired for using another instructor's syllabus without attribution."''

::''"The move to fire Dr. Cameron was strongly opposed by the University Faculty Senate."''

[[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore|talk]]) 14:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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== COI edit request August 2025 ==

{{Edit COI}}

Hi, I'm a paid editor with [[Arizona State University]]. The media team at ASU spotted an inaccuracy in Crow's article that needs to be fixed.

Crow joined the board of In-Q-Tel in 1999 but was not its board chair until 2006. I wish there were more contemporary references, but it is in [https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2021/12/09/michael-crow-talks-in-q-tel-board-role.html this] paywalled 2021 article from the ''Phoenix Business Journal'', which is the only needed new reference.

{{TextDiff|In 1999, Crow was asked by [[Director of Central Intelligence]] [[George Tenet]] to become chairman of the board for [[In-Q-Tel]], the CIA's venture capital firm|In 1999, Crow was asked by [[Director of Central Intelligence]] [[George Tenet]] to join the board for [[In-Q-Tel]], the CIA's venture capital firm; he became its board chair in 2006.}} [[User:Melted Brie|<span style="color:#8c1d40">Melted Brie</span>]]^ASU ([[Maroon &amp; Gold|onward to victory]] · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Melted Brie|c]]) 17:38, 15 August 2025 (UTC)