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* I wish to jump on this bandwagon! -[[User:CunningLinguist|CunningLinguist]] 12:11, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
* [[Cultural history of war]] is so much better, so i changed it. This was semi-tongue-in-cheek as a recommendation, but the tongue seems to have been taken out of the metaphorical cheek, so to speak --[[User:Wonderfool|Wonderfool]] 12:16, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
* I'd much rather see [[Military history of Earth war cultures]], or some variant. --[[User:Brian0918|<
* Or how about [[Military history of Heard and McDonald Islands]], or [[Culture of Dronning Maud Land]] --[[User:Brian0918|<
* I don't see this going much farther than a list. --[[User:WizardOfTheCDrive|WizardOfTheCDrive]] 00:51, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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#[[User:Frecklefoot|<nowiki></nowiki>]]— [[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] | [[User talk:Frecklefoot|Talk]] 16:19, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)
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* Extremely famous fantasy artist, has brief bio, no images, and a very limited list of works. For a guy who illustrated/painted for more than 50 years, there HAS to be something we can do to beef this up. In particular some sort of a fairuse/pd image of Frank, and perhaps one or two of his illustrations (if we can find stuff thats legit to use)
**I hear ya, but it's a self-reciprocating problem: if none of us know who he is, none of us can help. -[[User:Litefantastic|Litefantastic]] 01:47, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
***Ever heard of conan the barbarian? he's the guy who made him famous before Arnold got the role. Most fantasy movies in the 1970s and 1980s used him for inspiration.
* Alki, have you tried [[Wikipedia:Pages needing attention]] or even, go crazy :-), [[Wikipedia:Peer review]]? The problem with this type of article is not that it shouldn't be better represented — nobody's arguing against that — but that it's not a stub, and not a topic the community as a whole should look into to spare our encyclopedia public ridicule. :-) CotW is not so much for "beefing up" articles as it is for pounding out articles on major topics that basically have little to nothing ytvfdi'okwsjkl;lkjhgfdsa now. While [[Frank Frazetta]] could do with improvement, it's not exactly a woefully
:I did add him to requested pictures (you probably overlooked him on a page thats EXTREMELY long). I didnt feel
:: *sigh* True enough. I've said it before, and I
* I know nothing about him, but I could read up. --[[User:Sketchee|Sketchee]] 12:49, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)
* I started this articl and would love to see it
* '''Oppose.''' For the reasons stated above: COTW is intended to flesh out ''stubs'' and create articles that are missing. This is already an extensive article, albeit one that could easily stand improvement. Use [[Wikipedia:Cleanup]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for expansion]], or [[Wikipedia:Pages needing attention]] for this type of project. Saying that "most Wikipedians" forget about these other project pages is no excuse; ''misusing'' COTW because you think it gets more attention ought to be strongly discouraged and sets a poor example for the future. This is '''not''' an urgent matter; place it where it belongs and someone with personal knowledge or resources (e.g. a Frazetta compilation) '''will''' eventually come along. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 16:58, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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* I am SHOCKED to see this puny stub for Hieroglyph. It doesnt even mention what they stand for, or give examples!
** Please see [[Egyptian hieroglyph]], which is linked to at the bottom of that page. Quite frankly, any 'general' idea of hieroglyphs, including the [[Maya_civilization#Writing_system|Maya civilization writing system]] or other unrelated writing systems is rather contrived, and I'm not sure this page [[Hieroglyph]] serves any real purpose at all. Perhaps it should be a redirect to [[Egyptian hieroglyph]] (which itself, by the way, would be better named [[Egyptian hieroglyphics]], only because that form is more common) which might mention the Maya system in a small disambig at the top.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 02:34, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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*A four-day [[blizzard]] with [[hurricane]]-force winds, it completely destroyed 19 ships, forced 19 others to be stranded, and killed 250+ people. These same "November gale" winds have caused many devastating storms on the [[Great Lakes]] over the years (including sinking the [[SS Edmund Fitzgerald]]). I've already written up a short intro paragraph, with references, external links, and categories in Notepad, but haven't uploaded it yet. I also made [[:Image:Great Lakes 1913 Storm Shipwrecks.png|this map]] showing where wrecks have occurred. If this doesn't get many votes, treat it more like a request for others to collaborate with -- just leave me a message if you'd like to help with it. Thanks. --[[User:Brian0918|<
*I've started a draft of the article at [[Great Lakes Storm of 1913/Temp]], which is acting as a listing of the sources I have found and will eventually use, and as a collection of parts that have been completed and will probably be used in the final article. Feel free to modify this temporary page, and once it gets more content, it can be moved to the actual page. Thanks. --[[User:Brian0918|<
*'''Oppose'''. Take this as a compliment: your temp article seems excellent even without the daily timeline. This is probably ''not'' an article that a collaboration will improve. I suggest putting what you have in there and putting a tag for it in Peer Review. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 20:35, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:I put it here because there's really no other way to find people who are interested in helping make an article. --[[User:Brian0918|<
::Actually there are MANY ways and you should familiarize yourself with them! [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28assistance%29]] is just one of many; Peer Review is intended to attract people with knowledge in a particular category, but sometimes patience is required. When a topic requires offline sources, especially, it's overly optimistic to expect the motley crew of COTW to do a great job. Most of us are generalists. Note that simply working on an article is often enough to get it noticed. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 02:24, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Moved to actual article. --[[User:Brian0918|<
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*This is just sad. The program/troupe that produced the infamous ''[[The War of the Worlds (radio)|The War of the Worlds]]'' broadcast and included such now-day famous actors as [[Orson Welles]] and [[Joseph Cotten]] doesn’t even have a stub. Anything of this importance should have better than this.
*Agreed. Very influential, so many famous connections. We can certainly fill this in to at least a basic article. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 20:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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*Either this, or your generic [[History of modernization]], [[Modernization throughout history]], or some other variation.
*This is a monumental topic like none other. The volume of academic literature on the subject (modernization theory and other schools of thought on development) is mind-blowing. It is a subject that its difficult enough for a tenured graduate professor teaching it as a course to manage. I suggest that the article stay simple and generic (like in other encyclopedias), as this is really for the realm of professional social sciences, not the reporting of information in encyclopedias. [[User:172|172]] 03:38, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
**There's no reason
***My concern is not size. My concern is the difficulty posed by handling huge volumes of often-competing academic literature on theory. This article is probably a better project for a small number of social scientists than the entire community as a COW. If it is adopted as a COW, we will need to recruit social scientists (e.g., Slrubenstein and Stirling Newberry) to develop the outline and closely monitor the development of the article. (I'd work in that capacity if I had the time.) [[User:172|172]] 03:56, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
****At least we could say for once that an article on wikipedia was definitely created by an expert in the field. --[[User:Brian0918|<
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*Several routes could be taken, including the traditional "history of..."
*Do you mean nonintervention as one of the principles of the international law? [[User:KNewman|KNewman]] 23:34, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
**Yes. --[[User:Brian0918|<
*We should probably choose between Nonintervention and Noninterference (in internal affairs, that is). Or they should be linked with each another. Aren't these pretty much the same? [[User:KNewman|KNewman]] 23:50, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
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#[[User:Historie Pete|Historie Pete]] 16:38, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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*I'm sure there's a better title. I expect you're talking about the contraceptive pill etc? - [[User:Xed|<small>XED</small>]].[[User talk:Xed|<small>talk</small>]] 23:16, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
*Awful, awful idea. Besides, I left my tinfoil hat in my flying car. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 23:18, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
*'''Object'''. Your whole understanding of natural selection and evolution is completely wrong. --[[User:Brian0918|<
*It's a terrible idea, biased and flawed
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# [[User:Bogdangiusca|Bogdan]] | [[User talk:Bogdangiusca|Talk]] 23:27, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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* Pay toilets have a great impact on society today. Yet this article doesn't even exist? I want to know the history of pay toilets, I want to know the country with the most pay toilets, I want to know where the pay toilet money goes to, and I want lots of pictures! [[User:Masterhomer|Masterhomer]] [[Image:Yin_yang.
* I'm amused, but I don't see this being a big article that is actually "needed". --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 21:17, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
* Here's a technical correctness issue: one no longer pays specifically for the toilets, but for the bathroom facilities in general, at least in most pay toilets I'm familiar with. This is illegal in the US (pay toilets existed till the '70s, I believe) but common in Europe. Portajohns go a reasonable 20 to 30 cents, while in some places (train stations) they can go upward of 1.00 euro. I'm curious, by the way, how do pay toilets "have a great impact on society"? Sure, it's annoying as hell to have to fork over 0.50 euro to take a leak, but minor annoyance doesn't count as "great impact", so there must be something I'm not aware of. [[User:EventHorizon | EventHorizon]] [[User talk:EventHorizon | talk]] 04:19, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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*Something so important has only one line (the rest about probability is a random subtopic and shouldn't really count, considering how much info is at [[Subject (philosophy)]]) --[[User:Brian0918|<
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#[[User:Mondhir|Mondhir]] 03:08, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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*Currently a short list of mostly red links. It redirects to [[History of religions]], which may be a different topic. History is covered in [[Religion]], so maybe it's alright as is. --[[User:Brian0918|<
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*I can not beleive there is not a page for Spinning Rims/"Spinners". This is a huge phenomenon in the youth-subculture and has quickly become a multi-million-dollar industry. There are even spinning rim shoes now and spinning rim necklaces. This seems to be the future of rims and its a disservice to Wikipedia to overlook this portion of rim-design. -[[User:SmarterChild|SmarterChild]] 00:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
*Riiiight.... --[[User:Brian0918|<
* COTW is not a "requests for articles" page. This is not the sort of thing that a COTW is good at. Please do read the top of the page before making a nomination. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 00:15, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
**[[Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers]]. [[User:Hyacinth|Hyacinth]] 00:32, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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* This man literally <span style="background-color: #FFFF00"><u>'''''saved over a Billion lives'''''</u></span>, and all he gets is a short intro? It seems like Collaborations have focused almost exclusively on people killing people; how about changing this for once? There's an informative webpage on him [http://www.aworldconnected.org/article.php/311.html here]. Get to work people! --[[User:Brian0918|<
** Agreed that he has been a major force in the twentieth century, but he's also a significant part of the reason why this world is heading rapidly towards the brink of destruction at the hands of overpopulation. Feed these people! Malthus be damned! —[[User:ExplorerCDT|ExplorerCDT]] 03:43, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
***Sounds like some bad reasoning going on there, but go ahead and believe it. :) --[[User:Brian0918|<
****While I was agreeing with your efforts to make a more comprehensive and informative article on Mr. Borlaug, I was establishing the cynic's view of his notability just for the sake of shock value. —[[User:ExplorerCDT|ExplorerCDT]] 04:14, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
*****Allllll-righty then. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 19:03, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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#[[User:Oven Fresh| ✏ <span style="color:#429717;">Oven</span><span style="color:#002bb8;">Fresh</span>]][[User Talk:Oven Fresh|<span style="font-size:120%;padding-left:2px;color:#5a3696;">²</span>]] 01:04, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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