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==Oh, youre back==

Weclome back. --[[User:Stevertigo|&#25140;&#30505sv]] 02:41, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

:Thanks, its nice to be back. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 02:57, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

:Ah-- so'o desu. :-) -[[User:Stevertigo|&#25140;&#30505sv]]

::/me makes an expression like Homer Simpson when Lisa is talking about something he does not understand. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 03:03, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

:::Thats Japanese meaning "so is" = undersood/affirmative. -SV

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I usually do try to avoid multiple links to the same word, but I'll add multiple links if they are widely separated (it's annoying and time-wasting to have to scan back through a long article looking for the first occurrence of a clickable link), and/or I anticipate an article being broken up. Philatelic bits are extremely uninteresting to non-collectors, and most likely they will all become their own separate articles at some point. [[User:Stan Shebs|Stan]] 22:07, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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<p>Hi Snoyes,

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<p>I appreciate your attempts to keep my outside link at [[Transcendentalism]] but as you will note, I, for some reason have been denied that privilege. I thank you for trying.[[User:kkawohl|Kurt Kawohl]]

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Thanks Snoyes. Next time I will post to a sysop's talk page. I did at least make the summary descriptive in the hope that a passing sysop would notice it on Recent Changes. :)

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You seem to be under the impression that I am the original poster of that material on [[Talk:Transhumanism]]. I am not, however I see that your reverts to that user's edits are creating an adversary, and that may be counterproductive. [[User:207.112.31.5|207.112.31.5]] 03:40, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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Your opinion that the text did not attempt to improve the article is just that: ''your opinion''. Before reverting what you think is junk, let it stand for a few days. It's not going to create chaos in that short a time, and could start a useful discussion. Old cruft, of course should be fair game. [[User:207.112.31.5|207.112.31.5]] 03:51, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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a situation which is not desirable, and which can easily be avoided.

Hi Snoyes,

If you have any questions please see [[Help:Image page#Description of the image|Help:Image page]]. Thank you. [[User:Sfan00 IMG|Sfan00 IMG]] ([[User talk:Sfan00 IMG|talk]]) 12:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:Add-desc -->

I guess you'll take this out, but for what its worth:

Is anonymous edit as bad as all that? I put my first wikipedia contribution up today, and the [[Alfred Tarski]] article, while missing much, has much more than it did before. (Thanks for helping clean up the formating on it.) I never would have taken the time to post it if I had to register first, as I wouldn't have know how easy it was to get a positive change made. Anyway, I am new here, so I don't have a sense of the costs of anonymous edit, but I now know enough to think that there is at least some virtue.

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== Nomination of [[List of pharmacies]] for deletion ==

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:Hi Brian. I don't understand what you mean by "take this out" - do you mean delete your posting to my talk page? Of course not. I think you have slightly missed my point on anonymous edits. Obviously there is a great benefit from 'proper' anonymous edits (ie. edits that contribute information, correct errors, etc.). My attempt was to try and wheigh these positive contributions against the negative contributions. So the negative contributions of +- 1/4 of anonymous edits is that they are vandalous. However, there is an addition to that negative cost: namely, that users have to police ''Recent changes'', and undo the negative changes made by _some_ anonymous editors. This time could obviously be better spent on making contributions themselves. You are of course right that one has to factor in the possibility that a significant number of anon editors will not contribute if they have to sign in. My number gathering was pretty much meant to give some solid statistics on anonymous edits. I am pretty sure that wikipedia policy will not change in the near future to require anons to log in. Cheers, [[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 18:32, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Hi Snoyes,

I had assumed that since I wasn't a signed-up user, my addition would count as unsigned. (Of course, I could have read the policy carefully!) I can see your point about possible furstrations from anon. edits, but I know that many folks won't sign up for something on the web if they cannot test it out first. Anyway, I am now a signed up member! Best, [[User:Vanden|vanden]] 23:59, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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I make my chess diagrams with [[ChessBase]]. The ChessBase look is now the most common in chess publications, I think, and there is a free version available, but it's Windows only, as far as I know. I did come across something a couple of years ago that let you make diagrams by just dragging pieces around - very easy to use, free, and I think it was cross-platform, but the resulting diagrams looked bloody awful, so I ditched it. Standardising on one look would be great but I'm not sure it's really practicable. Better to just let people use whatever software they happen to have, I think. --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]]

Hi Snoyes! As a [[:m:Stewards|Steward]] I'm involved in the upcoming [[:m:Help:Unified login|unification]] of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see [[:m:Single User Login finalisation announcement]]). By looking at [[Special:CentralAuth/Snoyes|your account]], I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on [[Special:MergeAccount]] and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my [[User talk:DerHexer|talk page]]. Cheers, —[[User:DerHexer|DerHexer]]&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:DerHexer|(Talk)]]</small> 22:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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== Nomination of [[:List of pharmacies]] for deletion ==

Hey, where did you get those pics of Cadamom? Are they public ___domain? I'd like to know, in case there are other spices there we can use. Thanks. [[User:Dgrant|dave]] 20:42, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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:Il me semble qu'il y a seulement 2 autre epices sur le wiki francais qui on un image, cannelle et gingembre. J'espere d'avoir un camera digital a Noel...je prendera des photos de mes epices chez moi. J'ai au moins vingt epices, entiere/graines et en poudre aussi. [[User:Dgrant|dave]] 21:07, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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In [[Mount Rushmore National Memorial]], why did you remove the link to [[Gutzon Borglum]], and the italics on "See also"? There is no page yet for Gutzon Borglum, but presumably there will be someday. (Actually, it looks like someday = today; a page was just added.) Italics for "see also" is correct according to [[Wikipedia:Boilerplate text]]. [[User:Michael Shields|Michael Shields]] 22:04, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Hi,

All the photographs of spices I put on the french Wikipedia are mine and you can use them, free of right.

[[User:Nataraja|Nataraja]] 11:45, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Thanks, I was debating removing that one ("obscene")in my mind - [[User:Marshman|Marshman]] 18:28, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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:No problem! --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 18:41, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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No problem<G>. I'm glad RickK noticed it, cause I noticed him noticing<G>. __ [[User:Someone else|Someone else]] 04:51, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Re: [[Universal joint]]: Thanks! I've been looking for some excuses to do some 3D modelling or other kinds of illustration for Wikipedia. I did a bunch of pics for [[Screw]] recently, also. If you can think of other things that could use diagrams like this, please let me know! -- [[User:Wapcaplet|Wapcaplet]] 00:46, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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<h2>[[Staufen]]/[[Breisgau]]</h2>

Hi,

Whereas the town (not a village) of Staufen is part of the district [[Breisgau-Hochschwarzwald]], ''Breisgau'' isn't identical to the district. The landscape named so covers roughly a third of Breisgau-Hochschwarzwald, so maybe someone should create an Breisgau article. If the server will work with me, I'll try to do a stub. -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 21:09, Nov 12, 2003 (UTC)

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This will assist those reviewing the many many "free" images on commons that have not yet been transferred to Commons.

Great idea. One nitpick:

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== I have sent you a note about a page you started ==

: ''except insertion of interlanguage links which were ignored''

Hello, Snoyes. Thank you for your work on [[Zambesia]]. [[User:North8000]], while examining this page as a part of our [[WP:NPP|page curation process]], had the following comments:

I think you should count those as contributions. Also, could you differentiate between # of edits for the IPs? I suspect IPs with small numbers of edits or with a very recent first edit are worse. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 23:16, Nov 12, 2003 (UTC)

{{Bq|1=Good start. The article has a sever problem with lack of sources and sourcing but I'm marking it as reviewed because IMO it meets the criteria for existence of an article.}}

: Always good to see real numbers and analysis. The signal/noise ratio was actually better than what I suspected. And I'd side with DQ -- insertion of interlanguage links as metadata is a valid positive contribution. [[User:Fuzheado|Fuzheado]] 00:37, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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::I was a bit unsure myself about what to do with the interlanguage link edits. In the end I decided not to include them, in part due to my desire to have a cross-language log-in for all wikipedias and other wikimedia projects. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 00:41, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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The statistic is helpful to know. A quarter. I think that is very high. Much higher than I expected. I had been under the impression that "[All] anonymous contributor is the [constructive] foundation of a truly free Wikipedia". But of course I'm not anymore against anon editing than before. Had WP been a register-only encyclopedia, I wouldn't have bother with it until probably much later, if ever.

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Does "removed vandalism" including those deleted? It's another informative number to have separately.

--[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 01:05, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:Yes, it includes all the newly created nonsense articles that were deleted.

Can you give an update later on how many of the missed vandalisms got fixed? [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 01:53, Nov 13, 2003 (UTC)

:You're right that is an interresting statistic to know. However, I corrected everything after finishing the data-collection. (Which was 2 to 15.5 hours after each of the edits). The rationale behind this was that if it wasn't corrected in 2 hours after appearing there was basically no possiblity of it being found via the [[Special:Recentchanges]] page. After this period it would have to be stumbled upon by some other means. I will do another such half-day survey this weekend and then not correct the vandalism and check back to all of them in a weeks time. I'll also do a more detailed analysis, looking at what proportion of annonymous editors (as opposed to edits) were vandalous. Any other suggestions welcome. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 02:03, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:Pages that are watched by an editor that looks at WP twice a day are likely to get fixed even if they go unnoticed on recent changes. I probably only see a small percentage of recent changes, since there are now so many of them, but there's also no chance that a change to a page I'm watching will get by. So it would be interesting to know how many pages are being watched by somebody. For the record, I've always been against anon editing; it might have helped in getting WP started, but at this point I'd just as soon prune out the people who are unwilling to make even the tiny commitment of a user name. GNU and Linux have very tough hurdles to contributing, and even so they're continually swamped with proposed patche. [[User:Stan Shebs|Stan]] 07:52, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

: ''Therefore, the only way that these will be corrected is by someone stumbling upon them.''

You missed watchlists and "related changes", which are an important way of catching changes over a longer-scale time period. Interesting project - I may try to replicate your results. [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]] 18:29, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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I agree with Martin; I regularly find vandalism (or just incorrect edits) via watchlist and related changes. I have made a [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=842401&group_id=34373&atid=411195 feature request] though, for a recent changes page that only shows IPs, based on your findings. [[User:DanKeshet|DanKeshet]]

:You're right, I kind of forgot about the watchlist and related changes. I'll definately note it when next I do a follow-up analysis. But unfortunately that is not the sort of thing that I can really quantify, so it won't really affect the numbers as such. It will simply make it more likely that vandalous edits are caught and are not stumbled upon by mere chance. Thanks for making that feature request on SF. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 21:31, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:: You could go and reverify the state of the articles after a week - there were 16 of them right? Or did you fix them yourself? [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]] 21:50, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:::I fixed them a couple of hours after finishing collecting the data. I'm doing another more detailed survey some time soon though, and will fight my urge to correct the vandalisms and check back a week later. --[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 21:55, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:: Sometimes you should consider that some "obvious" POV are in fact NPOV. Please be more careful. [[User:195.218.110.143|195.218.110.143]] 16:40, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)~

I'm just astonished! A quarter is vandalism? I have an impression that perhaps 5% of IP stuff is vandalism on Japanese wikipedia. Some people at ja. also have a theory that many first-time IP users do vandalism after they click a red link and be presented with a blank edit box in front of them. Does that happen a lot? Or people vandalize even existing articles? I am also wondering how much of vandals would be repeat offenders vandalizing multiple pages at a visit. And did you find any cases of an IP user cleaning up his/her own vandalism? Or an IP user reverting another IP's vandals?

Well, anyway, I am looking forward to seeing further stats. [[User:Tomos|Tomos]] 21:00, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Apparently my sound program is having some problems. *sigh* I'll keep working on it; thanks for pointing it out. - [[User:Hephaestos|Hephaestos]] 18:31, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Hi Sascha, here's another comment about your edit stats that I have moved off the village pump as that page was up to 83kb again. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 20:08, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

== anonymous edit statistics ==

:Very interesting. The thing that most caught my eye is your conclusion that "a quarter of anonymous edits are counterproductive". Does means three quarters are productive? Given that if they weren't anonymously editing, many perhaps most vandals would just be setting up glove-puppets to get at us anyway, that doesn't seem too bad at all to me.

:The observation about the bad edits that were missed is also interesting. This brings us back to approval mechanisms. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 18:52, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:interesting, though the conclusion that 16 were missed goes too far, IMO, because people like me catch vandalism by looking at watchlists. If I find vandalism on anything I'm watching, I take care of all vandalism by that IP. A followup study of those 16 unreverted edits two weeks later would be interesting. [[User:JamesDay|JamesDay]] 15:48, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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About the Elon proposal: If all the Palestinians currently in WB & G became Jordanians, then Jordan would have a clear majority of Palestinians as citizens. The story goes that this would amount to the creation of a Palestinian state. It isn't a great story, but those articles have a lot more serious problems than this one. --[[User:Zero0000|Zero]] 00:33, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)

== MY BAD ==

ID personally like to apoligze fo vandalizing this sit twice today i didnt know it was such a big deal. just trying to be humorus anyway ireally am sorry.

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Just because something is true, doesn't mean it isn't part of the [[Bush family conspiracy theory]]. [[User:Lir|Lirath Q. Pynnor]]

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Oh the article definitely needs improvement, this is all a work in progress. But deleting stuff won't solve the problem. [[User:Lir|Lirath Q. Pynnor]]

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Thanks, Sascha, for changing the Africa pic reference, I appreciate it. I had no idea the page references were changing. I'd better check the other Earth Observatory pics I've uploaded!<br>

[[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 20:26, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

:I see from my Watchlist that you are very kindly changing all my Earth Ob pic references. Thanks for your work.<br>

:[[User:Arpingstone|Adrian Pingstone]] 21:53, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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I would like to express a heartfelt thanks to: [[User:Cyp|&#922;&#963;&#965;&#960; ''Cyp'']] , [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogostick]], [[User:Snoyes|snoyes]], [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] , [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]], [[User:Hephaestos|Hephaestos]] , [[User:207.189.98.44|207.189.98.44]] , [[User:JamesDay|Jamesday]], [[User:Pakaran|Pakaran]] for nominating me and supporting me. It is encouraging to know that my efforts over the past 6 months have been appreciated. I prize your actions all the more knowing that many of you were not familiar with my work and had to do some research to decide whether to support me or not (because I limit my contributions to the 750 business/economics articles) . Thank you for the time, the effort, and the confidence.

There was a minority that did not support me because of my name. It seems that half have a problem because they read “shat” into it and half because of the word “god”. I find this amazing. The people that read “shat” into the character string had to ignore the commonly used word “hat” and pick out a word that has not been in common use for more than a century. My spell checker is currently telling me that the word dosn’t exist. One complainant insisted on converting “Monad” into “gonads” and “Excrescent” into “excrement”. Another saw “a dog eating a bone” as a sexual act. All I can say to these people is “Get professional help”.

As for changing my name, I have decided not to do that for two reasons. One is a philosophical reason. For an explanation, read The Crucible, particularly where John Proctor declares the importance of your name. The price of adminship is too high. The other reason is a practical one. I find it useful to use the same name on all my online activities. It is interesting that two universities and several commercial sites don’t have a problem with my name. Maybe it is not all that surprising since they are not inhabited by trolls trying to forward their cause.

Hope to see you around the business/economics pages in the future. [[User:Mydogategodshat|mydogategodshat]] 03:07, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)