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Line 1: {{ISP\|Pragmatic Patents & Industries @ main.put.com\|host=AT&T Services - Carmel, New York, USA}} ~~I've been trying to find more info on Ross Eckler. Do you know where I can find his publications, esp. re: centenarians? Thanks. [[User:Fruits\|Fruits]] 16:39, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)~~ {{Repeat vandal}} ~~----~~ <div style="float: right; border: 1px solid black; padding: 3px; text-align: left;"> ~~Please type a space after periods and commas. I have corrected this in a number of your edits. --[[User:Wik\|Wik]] 04:44, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)~~ '''{{Center\|<U>Archives</u>}}''' <hr width="100" /> #[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:12.144.5.2&oldid=33538593 Page content as of 11:12, 2 January 2006]<br> #[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:12.144.5.2&oldid=482854295 Page content as of 02:50, 20 March 2012]<br> #[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:12.144.5.2&oldid=933211457 Page content as of 11:22, 30 December 2019] </div> == Welcome! == {{#if:\|== {{{heading}}} ==\|}} {\| width="100%" style="background:transparent" \| {\| width="100%" style="background-color:<!-- Bug -->#{{#switch:{{{color}}}\|pink=FFF5F5\|F5FFFA}}" \|style="width: 50%; border:1px solid <!-- Strange bug makes the number sign have to go in front of the parserfunction here-->#{{#switch:{{{color}}}\|pink=800808\|084080}}; background-color:<!-- Bug -->#{{#switch:{{{color}}}\|pink=FFF5F5\|F5FFFA}}; vertical-align:top"\| {\| width="100%" cellpadding="2" style="vertical-align:top; background-color:<!-- Bug -->#{{#switch:{{{color}}}\|pink=FFF5F5\|F5FFFA}}" \| <div style="margin: 0; background-color:{{#switch:{{{color}}}\|cyan=#CEF2E0\|pink=#F2CECE\|#CECEF2}}; font-family: sans-serif; border:1px solid {{#switch:{{{color}}}\|pink=#800808\|#084080}}; text-align:left; color:black; padding-left:0.4em; padding-top: 0.2em; padding-bottom: 0.2em;"><p>Hello 12.144.5.2!</p> <p>Thank you for [[Special:Contributions/12.144.5.2\|your contributions]] to this free encyclopedia. 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Move along...[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:12.144.5.2 the user did!]--[[User:12.144.5.2\|12.144.5.2]] 01:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC) ~~By now you should realize that NOT typing spaces after punctuation marks is a habit I have had for decades,and stick to fiercely.~~ ~~The centenarian researcher A. Ross Eckler Jr. (son of the census bureau official who died in 1991) can be reached at wordways@juno.com.~~ (The above link led to a page detailing Mr. Epstein's reasons for abandoning and denouncing Wikipedia,until the Administrator "Stephen" deleted it as "housecleaning" a year and a half later).--L.E./[[Special:Contributions/12.144.5.2\|12.144.5.2]] ([[User talk:12.144.5.2#top\|talk]]) 01:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC) '''NOW BANNED FROM EDITING EVEN IF I WANT TO.''' Hi. You should create a user, and log on. Your contributions are very useful. Once you create a user you will be able to move pages without cutting and pasting and it generally makes life easier for everybody. [[User:Mintguy\|Mintguy]] (who was in the Wimbledon end at the 1988 FA Cup final). == Nomination of [[:Robert Krebs]] for deletion == <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg\|48px\|alt=\|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Robert Krebs]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines\|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy\|deleted]]. The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Krebs]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. ~~== Cut?...Paste? ==~~ Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.<!-- Template:afd notice --> [[User:Graywalls\|Graywalls]] ([[User talk:Graywalls\|talk]]) 04:05, 21 March 2020 (UTC) ~~I use the Lynx browser,I'm not one of those mousy types who cuts and pastes.Everything I type,I type by hand.~~ Thanks for your view that my contributions are useful...I note that my "Tel Aviv" comment that it's controversial that other countries should get to decide what a given country's capital is has not only been deleted but the page has been protected against this comment being restored. ~~Anyway,I never register for registration-required websites,as a matter of principle.Part of the whole "free content" ethos,IMO!~~ ~~Louis Epstein/le@put.com/12.144.5.2~~ == Notice == You mis-understand my comment about cut & paste. As for "registering" it's not a question of registering, it's a question of creating a user handle that is more identifiable with an individual than an IP address which no-one ever remembers and that could be used by many different people. Other than a user-name and password no other information is required. In fact you are more anonymous with a user-handle than an IP address. Also contribtions from IPs tend to be viewed with more suspicion than named users. Which may explain the Tel Aviv, Jerusalem problem. BTW you could have tried discussing the problem on one of the talk pages, that's what they are for. [[User:Mintguy\|Mintguy]] 05:07, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC) There is a reply to your comment at [[Talk:United States Space Force]]. - ''[[User:Thewolfchild\|<span style="color: black">wolf</span>]]'' 10:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC) == January 2022 == [[Image:Information.svg\|25px\|alt=\|link=]] Hello, I'm [[User:Lectrician2\|Lectrician2]]. I noticed that you made a change to an article, [[:De facto embassy]], but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to [[Wikipedia:Citing sources\|include a citation]] to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User talk:Lectrician2\|my talk page]]. Thanks. <!-- Template:Huggle/warn-unsor-1 --><!-- Template:uw-unsourced1 --> [[User:Lectrician2\|Lectrician2]] ([[User talk:Lectrician2\|talk]]) 04:40, 10 January 2022 (UTC) ~~== Departure...Have You Seen the Last of Me! ==~~ {{Block indent\|''If this is a [[Network address translation\|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?\|creating an account]] for yourself or [[Special:UserLogin\|logging in with an existing account]] so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''}}<!-- Template:Shared IP advice --> == Blocked as a sockpuppet == <div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px">[[File:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg\|40px\|left\|alt=Stop icon with clock]]<div style="margin-left:45px">You have been '''[[WP:Blocking policy\|blocked]]''' temporarily from editing for [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry\|abusing multiple accounts]] as a sockpuppet of [[User:LE]] per the evidence presented at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LE]]. Note that multiple accounts are [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Legitimate uses\|allowed]], but '''not for ''[[Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Inappropriate uses of alternative accounts\|illegitimate]]'' reasons''', and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be [[Wikipedia:Banning policy#Edits by and on behalf of banned editors\|reverted]] or [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G5\|deleted]]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[WP:Five pillars\|make useful contributions]]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the [[WP:Guide to appealing blocks\|guide to appealing blocks]], then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx\|" code. -->{{tlx\|unblock\|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}.  [[User:GeneralNotability\|GeneralNotability]] ([[User talk:GeneralNotability\|talk]]) 23:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)</div></div><!-- Template:uw-sockblock --> :It is the LE user account that should be regarded as a "sockpuppet" of the 12.144.5.2 IP that I have always regarded as primary,NOT vice versa,if one must make such distinctions.[[Special:Contributions/12.144.5.2\|12.144.5.2]] ([[User talk:12.144.5.2#top\|talk]]) 04:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC) ~~Once on Tel Aviv,three times on Jerusalem.~~ == Nomination of [[:Mark E. Petersen]] for deletion == ~~Since Wikipedia refuses to tolerate the statement that the idea of countries deciding what another country's capital is~~ <div class="afd-notice"> ~~is unusual.let alone controversial,I will not be making any further contributions.~~ <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg\|48px\|alt=\|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Mark E. Petersen]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines\|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy\|deleted]]. ~~My email address is above for any who care to write to me.~~ The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark E. Petersen]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. ~~'''Update'''~~ ~~Well,it looks like the edit war on Jerusalem today concluded with the language I deemed essential restored after all.~~ ~~So I may be banging around for a while yet unless the other side forces bias through again.~~ Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ~~==Hi==~~ <!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000\|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000\|<span style="font-size: x-small;">1000</span>]]</sup></span> 19:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC) Hi, I liked your contributions for [[List of chiefs of mystical organizations]]! Feel free to make more contributions and participate more in Wikipedia. Best wishes, [[User:Optim\|Optim]] 22:47, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC) ~~Would you please learn to use spaces correctly? This isn't optional. I challenge you to find any serious website that doesn't. [[User:Evercat\|Evercat]] 00:54, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)~~ ~~If I thought the convention of waste space after punctuation had any merit,I would have adopted it many years ago.~~ ~~Optim,thanks for the kind words.~~ ~~L.E./12.144.5.2/le@put.com~~ ~~It's pretty selfish to expect others to fix problems caused by your laziness. [[User:Evercat\|Evercat]] 20:28, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)~~ ~~It's not laziness,it's objection in principle.I'd much prefer that others DIDN'T impose orthographic conventions I dislike,on what I write the way I write it.--L.E.~~ ~~It takes a lot more effort for others to go through your stuff fixing it than for you to use spaces properly. You're being a pain. [[User:Evercat\|Evercat]] 20:36, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)~~ So. I have fixed your stuff. Poor Yorick has fized your stuff. Wik has fixed your stuff. Zundark has fixed your stuff. Michael Hardy has fixed your stuff. Are you seeing a pattern here? Other people are having to do a lot of work because of your pig-headedness. Stop being a prick. [[User:Evercat\|Evercat]] 23:02, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC) Yeah,I see a pattern...people who think spacing after punctuation makes sense are out to sabotage the work of those of us who use space more efficiently.I am not "making" anyone have this prejudice,and it's their problem if they can't bear seeing stuff typed without that waste space.--L.E. You have no space restrictions: [[Wikipedia:Wiki is not paper]]. We have a [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style]] too that Wikipedians are expected to adhere to. If you don't want to adhere to standard convention - fine, but in doing so you actually are having to make other people fix your work so it adheres to Wikipedia convention. [[User:Dysprosia\|Dysprosia]] 00:24, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC) Look: you won't have it your way anyway. People are going to go after you and repair every article. It'll be like you have typed it the "right" way. You're not objecting in principle, you're just annoying people. So please, pretty please, when editing, stick to the conventions of this site. [[User:Zocky\|Zocky]] 00:58, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC) ~~----~~ Hi again. Just to say that I enjoyed reading your [[Grand Lodge]] article. By the way, it is true that leaving no space after punctuation saves space, but I think there is no need to do that in Wikipedia. You can open a thread of discussion in some wikipedia page, like for example the [[Wikipedia:Village_pump\|Village pump]], present your ideas and propose to change the style of wikipedia so that there will be no spaces after commas and dots, and follow the usual wikipedia style until other wikipedians agree with your views (something not very possible). Your idea about no spaces after punctuation would be very useful for articles intented to be read from old or thin-client equipment such as PDAs, mobile phones, old PCs or computers with limited Internet access (old dialup modems or wireless GPRS Internet where you pay based on how much data you download). But, Wikipedia as it is now, is intented to be read with modern PCs, so there is no consideration about space. Also consider that wikipedia is an online encyclopedia. Have you seen any other encyclopedia with some articles following style X and some others following style Y? I dont think so. In wikipedia the style is important and we try to have a common general style across all the articles. When somebody (including me) edits your texts and places spaces after punctuation, it's not mean that we don't appreaciate your contribution, we do that only because we want each article to conform to wikipedia's style so that the reader won't be confused while reading our encyclopedia. My personal opinion on this subject is that space after punctuation is good because it makes reading easier (so it's good for the reader). Keep up contributing to wikipedia and please consider conforming to the community's standard style (space after punctuation); your contributions are really good. Peace. [[User:Optim\|Optim]] 03:01, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)