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== You're back! ==

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I see you're back - welcome! We need honest users like you, so please don't leave us again :-) [[User:Izehar|Izehar]] 21:18, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Feel free to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Robchurch&action=edit&section=new leave a message] for me on this page; I shall endeavour to respond to everything I get on the sender's talk page, so please sign using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.

Good man. It's good to see you around again. [[User:Blackcap|Blackcap]] [[User talk:Blackcap|(talk)]] 07:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

No, I won't remove comments or criticisms or past messages, but I will archive them every month, if there's something to archive.

==[[WP:MIND]] Mediation ==

Hello, Rob Church! Thanks for the kind words. As for [[WP:MIND|Mind Benders]], all you have to do is to click the "Answer this question" link below each question, type in a subject heading (something like "Rob's answer"), and type your answer and explanation in. Right now, all but two questions have been answered correctly, so when you submit your answer, you will automatically be able to view the correct response (other people's answers). Welcome to Wikipedia, and happy editing! [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk </small>]] 17:47, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

The story looks fine. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 23:15, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for the barnstar! Don't worry, I moved it from my user page to talk page. You didn't mess up anything- my user page is actually quite sloppy, and I've been meaning to reorganize it for quite a while. Anyways, just a quick favor to ask of you- could you sign with the four tildes (<nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki>) on the barnstar on the talk page? Thanks a lot! [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk </small>]] 18:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

:Sander responded on my talk page. As far as the response speed goes. I do not check a page for replies every time, but it doesn't mean I never planned to check it. And I supplied a reason on the deletion page which is the way most people do it. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 11:48, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

::Thanks. [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk </small>]] 18:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

:He is talking about starting a personal feud against him again. I'm backing out of the conversation for now. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 21:24, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

== Jim ==

Please do no vandalise the [[Natalee Holloway]] page. This is your official warning. The next time you do it, you will be permabanned. (Unsigned comment by [[User:BunkyBoopy|BunkyBoopy]].

Thanks for your note, Rob. I won't block Jim for that remark, though I'll put a note on his talk page. The difference between the two editors is that Ben has been warned countless times, and has been blocked a few times for personal attacks. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] [[User_talk:SlimVirgin|<sup style="color:purple;">(talk)</sup>]] 23:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

*As I recall, you are the one vandalising that article. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] 03:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

:Agreed and done. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] [[User_talk:SlimVirgin|<sup style="color:purple;">(talk)</sup>]] 00:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

**Robchurch: thanks for doing your part to keep Wikipedia clean.. {{user|BunkyBoopy}} is either seriously confused or just writing nonsense.. he has recently posted bogus vandalism warnings to people ''reverting'' his vandalism for vandalism, including you, me, and Malathion. [[User:Mysidia|Mysidia]] 03:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

***Thanks for the thanks. I didn't really take any notice of him. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] 03:42, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

== ReversionAdminship and revulsionnomination ==

Dear Rob: Because I think it is a true tragedy that you chose to resign from adminship, and because you're so damned indispensable, I've renominated you. I do hope this isn't too impudent of me to do so, but I really would be negligent in my duty as a Wikipedian not to do so. If perhaps you would be so kind as to accept, I would be truly thrilled; on the other hand, if you don't want to, then that's not a problem. The nomination is at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robchurch 3]]. All the very best, --[[User:NicholasTurnbull|Nicholas'''Turnbull''']] | [[User_talk:NicholasTurnbull|(talk)]] 23:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for nabbing the page vandal. I instituted a 2 hr block on him (the homophobia suggests a male vandal) because he's using an AOL IP, and we get into a world of pain if we block for long on any of those. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 21:25, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

:Rob, I've left a question for you on your RfA. --[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|Jeffrey O. Gustafson]] - ''[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson/Contributions|Shazaam!]]'' - [[User_Talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|<*>]] 20:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== [[WP:RFAr]] ==

::OK, Thanks. --[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|Jeffrey O. Gustafson]] - ''[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson/Contributions|Shazaam!]]'' - [[User_Talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|<*>]] 20:43, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I have signed the RfAr myself and made some very minor changes to wording. Since the changes were to the section you signed, I am bringing them to your attention so that you may remove them if you feel they change the meaning of the statement in such a way that it no longer reflects your views. [[User:UninvitedCompany|The Uninvited]] Co., [[User_talk:UninvitedCompany|Inc.]] 18:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

== Vicious campaign to remove copyrighted images from user space ==

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I'm not sure exactly what basis is being used in this campaign, but it would be appreciated if some reason for this were given. Fair use is not as narrow as some folks think. --[[User:Dschor|Dschor]] 20:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

== kmccoy's RFA ==

To add to this, I'm not personally upset by the removal of the image. If fair use does or doesn't extend that far, is not for me to say, but Wikipedia consensus. What I am upset with is the vandalization of my page. I have always played by the rules here, so all that needed to be done was a note left on my Talk page, and I would have removed the image myself. It's what I would have done had it been your page with the image, because that's the respect and consideration you deserve. You may not have blanked or defaced the page, but, in my opinion, the way you've handled this is even worse. [[User:Baryonyx|Baryonyx]] 16:58, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Rob,

*Thank you for your prompt reply. I'm also heartened by the fact that you took my comments reasonably... seems things can quickly escalate around here, and I'm also glad to see things handled so well. Thank you, and have a happy new year! [[User:Baryonyx|Baryonyx]] 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== FYI ==

Thanks for your support on my RFA. Yours was the last vote, which I'm sure is important somehow. :) [[User:Kmccoy|kmccoy]] [[User_talk:Kmccoy|(talk)]] 23:22, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

In case you didn't know, there's also a [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Freestylefrappe|Request for arbitration]] that's been accepted on Freestylefrappe. I'm sure he'd appreciate anything you could do to counter the pile-on there, too. If you want my personal opinion -- the problem is not Freestylefrappe making mistakes, but an utter unwillingness to admit to mistakes, or learn from them, combined with a gut-wrenching hostility toward most of those who have tried to help. That said, a lot of the evidence piling on (some my fault too, I'm afraid) is from deep in the past before any mistakes were pointed out.&mdash;[[User:Bunchofgrapes|Bunchofgrapes]] ([[User talk:Bunchofgrapes|talk]]) 00:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

== Merit ==

== Yikes! ==

Hi Robchurch, I was not testing Media when you removed it. I was wikifying and reformatting the article and was about to preview the changes, when all of a sudden, it disappeared and I was wondering what happened after I spend a considerate amount of time, trying to get the alignment right. As a matter of fact, new as I am to Wikipedia, I have contributed 5 articles and had edited more than 20 articles so far. Anyway, thanks for your message. [[User:PM Poon|PM Poon]] 05:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, ''thank you'' for the pleasant surprise! I appreciate it. I am a political animal, not unfamiliar with power and authority in Wp (e.g., the ArbComm) and in actuality. Thus, cognizant of last year's process and (IMO) some of the inherent challenges with the ArbComm and its membership, I took it upon myself to contribute in a small way to organise and improve our efforts this year. These weren't without duress (I can elaborate later), but – as with anything – I hope the proof will be in the pudding.

== Merit ==

Separately, I'm disheartened by your recent travails (I do keep an eye on this and that), but I'm sure everything will work out eventually.

No problem, Robchurch. I was just trying to give my two-cents worth. As you can see, I am a registered member and not a vandal, LOL. [[User:PM Poon|PM Poon]] 14:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again! [[User:E Pluribus Anthony|E Pluribus Anthony]] 07:55, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

== Barnstars - to return the favour! ==

:I'm not as skeptical: it just needs to be organised and administered effectively (i.e., neutrally). Some would say that of last year's process too – or anything – so we're ''all'' [[Dirty Pretty Things|dirty pretty things]] in some way. :) [[User:E Pluribus Anthony|E Pluribus Anthony]] 08:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Dear Rob,

== Binomials and trinomials ==

Firstly, may I thank you very much for your generous awards on my talk page - and since you don't have any barnstars yet yourself, I thought I would return the complement!

Sorry if I'm addressing this to the wrong person ... hope you can help. I'm a newbie and still haven't found my way around yet. My question concerns the naming of pages dealing with species (or subspecies) of organisms. For example, the scientific name of the blackbird is ''Turdus merula'', but its page has the colloquial name, ''Blackbird''. This leads to ambiguity (see [[Blackbird]] for a specimen of necessary but rather inappropriate intrusion). The Linnaean system of classification was ''designed'' to be international and (pretty much) unambiguous, and encompasses every species and subspecies known to science. Would it be a good idea to have a guideline suggesting that pages should be so named, with redirects from colloquial names? Just a thought. I know it would involve a '''lot''' of work to rename all those pages in existence; maybe a bot could be devised for the job. [[User:Puffball|Puffball]] 11:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[[Image:raok barnstar.png|left|frame|'''Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar'''<br>Awarded for your unfailing niceness, and being an generally marvellous guy to work with on Wikipedia. [[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 02:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)]]

==block 3RR==

[[Image:Exceptional newcomer.jpg|left|frame|'''Exceptional Newcomer Award'''<br>Awarded for your exceptional enthusiasm, skill, and [[Wikipedia:Be bold|boldness]] beyond your experience. You should be an admin already! [[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 02:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)]]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:Ghirlandajo_.28Short_description:_troller.2C_vandal.2C_Anti-Romanian.2C_nazi.29 can you block the vandal? --[[User:86.106.51.95|86.106.51.95]] 16:49, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[[Image:Barnstar-lightbulb3.png|left|frame|'''Technology Barnstar'''<br>For your excellent scripting work, and all-round technical brilliance. [[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 02:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)]]

== Wiki User Wiki ==

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Are you the guy who hosts the Wiki User Wiki? - [[User:Joshua368|Joshua368]] 13:21, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

:Are you really going to let Homsar shut it down? - [[User:Joshua368|Joshua368]] 23:01, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, that's good. I'm pretty sure he'll change his mind as well, as I got a forum PM from him saying that he's considering doing so. However, if he doesn't, there are a bunch of users (at least ten, probably more) who really want to keep the WUW, and a few would make good leaders. (Not me though, although I like the WUW, I'm too busy to spend much time on it.) - [[User:Joshua368|Joshua368]] 00:36, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

==Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress/Intro==

All the best,

[[Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress/Intro]]

*is the site for historical interest now? to me it looks like vandalism.

:Please respond on my talk page.

:happened to see it vie crypto derk[[user:Eagle 101|Eagle]] ([[user_talk:Eagle 101|talk]]) ([[user:Eagle 101/Desk|desk]]) 00:21, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

::This is the page for reporting vandals, the user is not an admin. (Can you help me here).

[[User:NicholasTurnbull|NicholasTurnbull]] 02:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

:::Would like to make sure we are not missing vandalism especally to this page. [[user:Eagle 101|Eagle]] ([[user_talk:Eagle 101|talk]]) ([[user:Eagle 101/Desk|desk]]) 00:31, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I am about ready to revert it. (can always be placed back into historical interests)[[user:Eagle 101|Eagle]] ([[user_talk:Eagle 101|talk]]) ([[user:Eagle 101/Desk|desk]]) 00:32, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== Speedy tags ==

== Eddie's Hello ==

Please do not place speedy delete tags on articles which do not meet the criteria, such as [[Saginaw Valley Lutheran High School]]. [[User:Kappa|Kappa]] 05:04, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for Your changing Your vote in the AfD to '''userfy''' in the AfD. I actually did it before Your first vote. If You want to give Me any feedback on My contributions, all is welcome.<Br>

== Merit ==

Happy [[New Year]]! -- [[User:EddieSegoura|Eddie]] 00:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

== You're back!!!!! ==

Thanks, Robchurch. I didn't realize that even registered members vandalized! Anyway, did my attempt to improve the article smacks like vandalism? [[User:PM Poon|PM Poon]] 06:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I see you have returned to us, good job, we really are in need of wikipedians such as yourself. Please don't leave again; I hope you continue to stay. May I inquire why you've returned to us, by the way..? -[[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]]|[[User talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] 15:15, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

== Knowing one's rouge from one's rogue ==

== Barnstar Barnstar ==

Well, you're not an admin (yet), I guess, so I can't quite give you the new award, but I highly recommend it for those administrators who are true Rouge Administrators. The way I figure it, a Rouge Administrator is the sort who oppresses people who can't spell well enough or take enough time in writing articles to proofread what they've done. In other words, I am proud enough to be a Rouge Administrator that I came up with the following badge. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 03:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[[Image:Rouge-Admin.png|thumb|center|The nobel ordor of the Rouge Aministrater.]]

[[File:Barnstar Barnstar 2 NoDD.png|left|frame|This is in recognition of your excellent work in awarding Kelly Martin a Barnstar. '''[[User:Cyde|Cyde Weys]]''' _{[[Wikipedia:Two-millionth topic pool|vote]]}^{<span style="position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;">[[User talk:Cyde|talk]]</span>} 18:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)]]

==I don't hate you==

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== What the.. ==

Hi, would you please be patient with me read this through? Thanks. ^^;;

Your [[User:Robsmommy|mom]] is a wikipedian..?! Geez. -[[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]]|[[User talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] 23:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't hate you. You did something stupid yesterday, imo, true, and yes, I was very angry. I got angrier yet when I considered maybe you'd try the same with Ed Poor.

:No. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ^{''[[User_talk:Robchurch|Talk]]''} 00:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to tell you now that I'm not angry at you anymore. I'd like to explain how so. I hope you'll read on, so I can explain why.

:: A joke then...? I'm confused... -[[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]]|[[User talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] 00:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Now when you're angry at a person, you shout at them, because you care for them, and you're concerned about their behaviour. At some point you can get so angry you go right past that point, and you grow really really quiet on that person. I don't know why for sure. Maybe it's a natural instinct, so as not to tip them off to your impending revenge or so?

:::There is no affiliation between us. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ^{''[[User_talk:Robchurch|Talk]]''} 00:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I got really quiet on you for a little while there.

:::So, this user is fibbing then..? -[[User:MegamanZero|MegamanZero]]|[[User talk:MegamanZero|Talk]] 00:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

But then Nicholas told me you're still fairly new. That did change matters.

== Article survey ==

I knew that what you'd done was A Bad Idea, and I was still angry, but less so, and I grew concerned. Like what if I didn't say anything to you, and you'd try something like that again? You might get yourself hurt. And I was still pretty worried if you'd try that kind of stuff on folks like Ed Poor. That, and while I'd come back from ''"the sharpening of knives"'', I was still pretty much in ''"high dudgeon"''.

Hmm... I thought I already posted this. Stupid timeouts. Anyway, no, of course I don't mind annotation. [[User:Zocky|Zocky]] 00:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

So I decided to give you a mighty telling off. To put the "Fear Of God" in you. And by gum, that's what I did. And I hope it DID put the Fear Of God in you. <small>''(And that's all I'll say about the matter here, I shan't dredge it up further.)''</small> But maybe it put the Fear Of Kim in you too. :-(

== Your RfA ==

The latter is an unintended consequence. :-( I probably said a few things more strongly than I intended to as well.

Hello, I'm afraid [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robchurch 3|your RfA]] did not reach consensus (at somewhat under 66% support of total support/oppose, it was not greatly under, however). Generally those who opposed you cited concerns about your behavior towards Deeceevoice; my personal suggestion would be waiting a couple months and trying again. -- [[User:Pakaran|Pak]][[User talk:Pakaran|aran]] 02:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Anyway: here's some things you should know:

== Huh? ==

* I don't hate you. It's always important to tell people that after telling them off, or they might get the wrong idea.

* I'm not angry at you anymore, I told you off, and that's the end of it.

* I'm not going to foldspindlemutilate you. Yes I told you that if you'd try something like that again on someone else, that you Might Get Hurt. I told you that so you understand that it's Not A Good Idea. I will ''never'' hurt you personally. (Or not any worse than telling you off ,anyway ^^;;)

* I'm not going to follow you around or examine your edits more closely.

* I (still) respect you. You're respected in the community, and that's enough for me. :-)

Not sure why you're jumping in on a minor disagreement that's already water under the bridge to me... either that, and/or you may not have recognized/appreciated the humor in my last response to the party in question. Unless I did something in my sleep in the last two days... *shrugs* --[[User:Cjmarsicano|CJ Marsicano]] 14:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I told you off, and that's the end of it. I don't mind if you're angry or hate me for it, because I think I did the right thing. I hope you're not ''too'' angry back at me, but I don't know how I can help it if you are.

== Thanks for reading this far. ==

Thanks [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration%2FDeeceevoice%2FWorkshop&diff=33888313&oldid=33880567]. For that alone I'd change my vote on your RFA if it were still open. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 21:31, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

If you'd like to do a postmortem or debriefing, I reccomend talking with NicholasT or Mindspillage, or someone you respect (and get that person to talk with Nicholas, Mindspillage, and/or me too). If you feel daring, you might even try contacting me on irc again too, I shan't bite your head off (a second time, at least).

:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAlabamaboy&diff=33866524&oldid=33859501 This] might add some perspective. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 21:48, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your time.

== Healing Wikipedia ==

-- [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 11:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Rob, first off I wanted to say how impressed I've been with your actions in apologizing about the DCV stuff. As I said in my vote, it was a hard choice to vote oppose on your RfA. Since then, I've been even more impressed by how you've handled all of the issues and polemics surrounding you RfA. While I won't change my vote this go around, I will support you in the future (after all of this dies down) and would even nominate you, if you wished.

==A Link to the Past==

Hi,

I never had any discussions with A Link to the Past, just deleted a blanking as I would delete any other form of vandalism I came across. If someone else talked with Link, please ask them about it. [[User:Pukachu|Pukachu]] 18:47, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

:Sorry about accusing you of this, but he never provided a user name, and I assumed it was the reverter. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 18:55, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

I wonder if there is a way to heal the issues and differences that DCV's arbitration has brought to the foreground? In some ways, this entire affair has been bad for racial relations here at Wikipedia. Those who don't like how DCV acts have said that their actions are solely in response to DCV not being "nice" (so to speak). Those who don't like what has happened to DCV (like me) see the affair as being driven by racism and bigotry. The funny thing is that there is overlap between the two sides. A number of those pushing to sanction DCV admit that some of actions against her have been wrong and haven't helped racial issues here (and that some of the users pushing the issue against her are doing so for possibly racist reasons). Almost all of us opposed to the actions against DCV admit that she is abrasive and has violated Wikipedia guidelines and should be more civil in her discussions here. What we see, though, is a double-standard at work, with users appearing to gang up against non-minority editors like DCV for being less than civil but not doing the same to white editors. If this subject interest you, I'd encourage you to post you thoughts [[User:Alabamaboy/Healing Wikipedia|here on a special talk page I created]].--[[User:Alabamaboy|Alabamaboy]] 21:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

==RfA==

Thank you for supporting [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Flcelloguy|my RfA]]. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk </small>]] 20:32, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

== IRCwhat Discussiongives? ==

That user called you a liar, and deeceevoice did several times as well. Yes you pulled an all nighter and fired off a "Jerry Mcguire"....or maybe his evil twin....but guess what? You were honest. There were no lies. There may have been exaggerations but you didn't go out there with the intention of misrepresenting anything. In contrast, I have little doubt that both of those users know exactly what they are doing in calling you a liar, and if pushed would use your statements out of context to "prove" that you are a liar. Till then they'll be satisfied in labeling you a liar...again and again. When I say "Rob is not a liar", I am 1) standing up for your (butt) and 2) telling the truth. Wake up -- it's not harassment. What a day it is; you let others slide on the liar claim but laid into me for saying you're honest. -[[User:Justforasecond|Justforasecond]] 21:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I am concerned that last night's discussion was unworthwhile and am hesitant to participate in further such discussions. [[User:UninvitedCompany|The Uninvited]] Co., [[User_talk:UninvitedCompany|Inc.]] 19:09, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Asking me to take my lips off your ass is not a way to make amends, and telling folks you aren't a liar is not my way of worshiping you. I endoresed you for adminship and I regret that I was emphatic about it, but there's little I can do about it now. People are calling you a liar. You don't need to come shout me when I point out it isn't true. -[[User:Justforasecond|Justforasecond]] 22:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

==Sockpuppet==

==Kiss-on-the-butt thanks to RobChurch!==

You left the follow edit comment: ''"Removed sockpuppet accusation as it is unfounded and placed by Dreamguy who causes hassle for anyone editing Vampire)"''. This is absolutely false. The charges were fully described and considered substantial by several people who placed the tag there besides myself. And your description of what is happening on the Vampire page is completely false, the only people I cause any "hassle" for (which is really just me trying to follow normal conflict resolution procedures while being attacked by peopple who clearly are not operating in good faith) are ones who do not work toward consensus at all and are trying to make false claims about why certain edits were made in the past... Many of them are clearly linked to sockpuppets (several of which were outright proven by IP trace and later admission of those involved). I think you are simply glimpsing at the situation and then taking the word of a couple of troublemaking editors (many of whom are currently blocked for proven bad behavior elsewhere) as if they had merit instead of taking the time to figure out what's really going on. [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 23:35, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Rob, you are a great and good Wikipedian, and I'm happy and proud that you supported my nom. I will do my very best to be a good and useful admin, and if I can be of help in anyway please don't hesitate to ask. I'll see you in IRC and on the wiki! [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 00:01, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

:You wrote this on my talk page, among other things:

:''" I suggest that you avoid mindlessly accusing anyone of it "''

:I suggest you stop characterizing my claims as mindless accusations, as there is very strong evidence. Remember that so far, on every name that I have accused of being a sockpuppet that has been completely followed through and checked, I have been correct 5 out of 5 times that the individuals involved were, in fact, sockpuppets. Please see the [[User:Gabrielsimon]] case as well as [[User:Existentializer]] and his immediate followup sockpuppet (the spelling of whose name I forget). The [[User:Pukachu]] and [[User:Devilbat]] cases have many of the exact same signs, and other admins have agreed with me that their actions are suspicious. Perhaps you would like to call them all "mindless" as well? [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 02:16, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

::And speaking of those "mindless accusations" -- David checked [[User:Pukachu]] and [[User:Devilbat]] and they were, in fact, sockpuppets of [[User:Existentializer]]. See [User talk:David Gerard#Sock Puppet Request.] [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 01:00, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

:::I am aware of this, having been in the IRC channel at the time it was announced. I maintain that I reacted as I saw fit at the time. I resent the attitude you take when communicating with me, and would urge a slight tone alteration. Congratulations. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ^{''[[User_talk:Robchurch|Talk]]''} 01:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

::::Correct me if I am wrong here, but you inserted yourself into a conflict for which you did not research the issues beforehand (as being throughly discussed on the Administrator's Notceboard Incidents page), assumed I was acting in [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|bad faith]], responded [[Wikipedia:Civility|uncivilly]], continued to respond uncivilly when I pointed out the situation to you, learned that you were completely wrong in every particular, and then not only did not take the initiative to apologize but when the situation wad brought up again maintain that you did nothing wrong? I would suggest that you have more than a few things you need to work on yourself. [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] 02:43, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

:::::OK, this is about to descend into a (polite, if nothing else) flamewar, so I suggest we agree to disagree. I may well have entered into the dispute without checking all the bases, and for that I can only apologise. Fortunately, you were proven correct, and as far as I can tell, the cause for the dispute has been resolved. If there are any further problems I've caused here, do let me know. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ^{''[[User_talk:Robchurch|Talk]]''} 03:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

==Miguel deRe: CervantesTip Jar Article==

You're welcome. I didn't really want it on my talk page. [[User:WAvegetarian|WAvegetarian]] [[User talk:WAvegetarian|^(talk)]] <small>[[Special:Emailuser/WAvegetarian|(email)]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/WAvegetarian| ^(contribs)]] 07:32, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Robchurch: I happen to be "66.201.16.24" -- I am not vandalising the page in question; the fact of the matter is that I submitted an article on Cervantes, which I later decided to withdraw. I was intent on deleting all versions of my article found in the "history" page.

== ThanksThere foris yourno supporttone of voice in text ==

And I don't know you very well. Thus I don't know quite how to take [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NicholasTurnbull&diff=34465679&oldid=34465625 this.] So I'll just place a bet each way:

[[Image:Janitor's bucket with mop.jpg|thumb|75px|right|'''The mop is mine!''']]

=== If you were being genuine ===

Thank you for voting to support [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Malathion|my RFA]]. I've been promoted, and I promise to wield the mop with good faith, patience, and fairness... except when I'm exterminating vandals with the M-16 recoilless nuclear Gatling mop. --[[User:malathion|malathion]] [[User talk:malathion|^<b>talk</b>]] 07:54, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I think that the way we treat people who violate our norms helps to show our collective character. Thinking back to the Brandt business, our sophmoric treatment of his continued antics reflected poorly on us as well as him. It's nice to see that this opinion is not confined to only my fevered brain.

=== If you were sticking it to me ===

By saying that he was a troll, didn't deserve help, or something of that nature, I'd point out my statement above. Also note that my [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tommstein&diff=34344322&oldid=34336641 offer] both explicitly states I'm not taking sides, and tries to give him an opportunity to back out. Having Tommstein ''"think[ing] more clearly about what happened"'' would have been a good thing, no matter what the circumstances.

Regards,

== Func's RfA :) ==

[[User:Aaron Brenneman|<span style="color:#2f4f4f;">brenneman</span>]][[User Talk:Aaron Brenneman|<sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(t)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Aaron Brenneman|<sup style="color:#2f4f4f;">(c)</sup>]] 12:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

== [[Arvanitic language]] ==

Thank you for supporting my RfA! :) Very much appreciated.

Someone has requested on [[WP:RFP]] that it be unprotected from moves. I noticed that you were involved in the protection back in November, over some sort of naming dispute; is it ready to be unprotected at this point? You might drop by WP:RFP to chime in if you like. &middot; [[User:Katefan0|'''Katefan0''']]^{[[User talk:Katefan0|(scribble)]]}/<small>[[User:Katefan0/Poll|mrp]]</small> 19:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

== Sandertje continues the fight again ==

[[User:Func|Func]](&nbsp;[[User_talk:Func|t]],&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Func|c]],&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Func|e]],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=Func &nbsp;]&nbsp;) 18:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Please handle it. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 19:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

== Wario ==

Also notice that the images are reuploaded with incorrect licensing again after being deleted. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 19:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[[Wario]].

Since it is clear that you are doing nothing. I have taken the position of deleting all communication between me and Sandertje. If you don't agree than though luck, because you don't seem to do anything or take this seriously. [[User:KittenKlub|KittenKlub]] 19:17, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Click the PR request. :3 -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 22:29, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

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I have now opened a new account in my other name Dore chakravarty. I am not sure whether it is correct? I could not get my password for my old name Dore chakravarthy.Probably my earlier actions were assumed as vandalism for my not observing some rules which were not clear to me as a new comer.Hence this new log in, in another name of mine for this purpose only.Please help me.

== Re: Cabal ==

--[[User:Dore chakravarty|Dore chakravarty]] 23:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Aw, shucks. Thanks! In the meantime, you may be interested in [http://wikipediareview.proboards78.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1136878197&page=1 this.] Thanks again!--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]]|[[User talk:Sean Black|Bla]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">ck</span>]] 22:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

==Vandalism==

Anyone who gets their user talk vandalised can't be all tooooo bad, I guess... :-/ [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 01:17, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

*Heh! It's not the first time. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ^{''[[User_talk:Robchurch|Talk]]''} 01:34, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

== got a second? ==

Can you drop by [[Category_talk:Wikipedians_by_politics]] and clarify; [[User:Gator1|Gator]] thought your edit summary [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Wikipedians_by_politics&curid=2847193&action=history] about 'snarkiness' was aimed at him, where as it seemed to be directed at [[User:Kbdank71|Kbdank71]] instead, and he got upset. I have a feeling it's a misunderstanding, but it'd be better coming from you... -- [[User:Nae'blis|nae'blis]] <i>_{[[User_talk:Nae'blis|(talk)]]}</i> 19:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

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==Its me==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:NicholasTurnbull/Mediation_IRC&diff=20786659&oldid=20736735] [[User:UninvitedCompany|The Uninvited]] Co., [[User_talk:UninvitedCompany|Inc.]] 17:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

ok it worked i can edit [[User:Extc|Extc]]

real funny they removed my comment from talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIslamist_terrorism&diff=35704996&oldid=35703462]. [[User:Extc|Extc]]

fine well ambi2 started crashing me gain in irc so i guess wp admins r asshols neways n i wont bother u again i quit this shitty place the islamos can have it[[User:Extc|Extc]]

== User:Robchurch#Jack Black Disambiguation ==

== Wiki ==

Hey, thanks, i think i mentioned you [wink] on [[Talk:Jack Black (disambiguation)]]. [big smile]<br> --[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]·[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 21:10, 2005 August 11 (UTC)

I think you know what wiki I'm talking about. I'd like it back.

_ _ ''[Sigh]'' I write like that too often, sorry. Yes, good, absolutely. <br>

_ _ "Mentioning you" meant that you were the tireless relinker that i was waiting for (but believing that they would have to be a bot-master; early in my WP career, i pretty much burned out in the effort to hand re-lk everything that lk'd to [[Battery]].)<br>

_ _ I didn't anticipate yr thoroughness, so i was planning to add the results of my own less rigorous survey (i considered many as, from their titles, obviously meaning him, and visited only the rest, mostly the names of people); my goal was to ensure & document that every article still lk'd to [[Jack Black]] as of today could be re-lk'd to the actor by a bot w/o further attention, so only new ones would need inspection. You've brought us, quickly, to the stage of routine maint: anything left (non-articles don't generally count) is easy to spot as new, so getting newcomers unlk'd from the rdr is now light work.<br>

_ _ Sorry i was obtuse.<br>--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]·[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 22:56, 2005 August 11 (UTC)

You wanna know the reason for my "attitude lapses"? It's called puberty, and I'm serious.

== [[Earle K. Bergey]] ==

I noticed you placed a <nowiki>{{cleanup}}</nowiki> tag on the article above. Just so you know, I'm working my way through [[List of pinup artists]] creating articles on all the mid-century artists that don't already have one. In support of that, I use a template in my userspace that, for technical reasons, leaves a small amount of cleanup to be done. I always do the cleanup right away, so if you should happen to see me creating more articles, you probably won't need to do any cleanup if you wait a bit. Of course, if you want to contribute to the effort, I'd love the help. I think I've got about 80 artists to go, give or take... :-)

Could I please have the WUW back? I'm really sorry for anything I've done. :-( [[User:WikiFanatic|WikiFanatic]] 07:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[[User:Kenwarren|Ken]] ^{[[User_talk:Kenwarren|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kenwarren|contribs]]} 01:15, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

==User:Rbirkby==

== The Most Noble Tarquin ==

It wasn't vandalism, I was piping the link so that his username appears under "R" in the user category rather than under "U". I actually do it all the time to people's user pages, it's just that this time I didn't leave a message explaining what I did. -- [[User:Francs2000|Francs2000]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Francs2000&action=edit&section=new Talk] [[Image:Uk flag large.png|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 01:16, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks - Ill do my best [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 21:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Rob, it's mainly myself and [[User:Proteus]] that he's up against this time. Oh, and the Manual of Style. Thanks awfully for the kind remark. Yours, [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 22:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, please note that it was Proteus, not me, who rolled-back edits. Generally speaking I try to stay within the guidelines that you enunciated. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 00:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

::Oh dear! Am I up against them - I just cam back to say - For anyone interested in defining future policy on this subject in a definitive way I have instigated a debate here at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#The Most Noble]] [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 10:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

==Watermarked images==

Watermarked images such [[:Image:Alcatraz escapees.jpg]] are up for deletion at [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 January 23]]. Can you please voice an opinion on this on the deletion page (Hopefully to delete) -Thanks [[User:Nv8200p|Nv8200p]] [[User_talk:Nv8200p|talk]] 19:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

==medcabal==

Hi there -- I saw that you were listed as a [[Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal|medcabal member]]; as a fellow medcabalist, I thought I'd drop you a line to say that there are a number of new cases that have been added recently and there seem to be too many for the "regulars" to handle. I suggest giving it a shot! (If you forgot you signed up for the cabal, and want off, sorry to bother you!) Yours, [[User:Sdedeo|Sdedeo]] <small>([[User:Sdedeo/advice|tips]])</small> 19:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

== Hi ==

Thanks for your message on my talk page. As it stands now, I have no problem, but is there a way you could delete the history of the page, as there is some content that I would like to report as a copyvio in previous versions. Let me know :) --[[User:Kizzle|kizzle]] 22:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

== Succesful RfA! ==

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== I want an apology ==

Throughout this issue, Nick has been polite and open to discussion, and your little group has done nothing but push POV, make personal remarks, and be incivil and abusive. Don't push any more buttons - of any user - or you may find yourselves banned out of sheer disgust. Rob Church (talk) 01:00, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

--[[User:Greyfox|Greyfox]] 02:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

If you are what the rest of the admins are like no wonder wikipedia is in trouble. I did not thihk you were involved. but if you wanna be on his side same to you.

I am filing complaints on both of you.--[[User:Greyfox|Greyfox]] 02:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Good some thing we agree on. I don't have anything to lose.

and when was I insulting to Nick. duffer I agree he started it. --[[User:24.206.193.170|24.206.193.170]] 13:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

:I disagree. You've been rude and obnoxious to me, and you still haven't acknowledged that the behaviour of your little group as a whole has been childish and immature. Take it to ArbCom if you want, I really don't care. I've far more interesting things to do with my time. [[User:Robchurch|Rob Church]] ([[User_talk:Robchurch|talk]]) 15:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)