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=== May 23 ===

====[[Kimberley Katherine Smith]]====

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== Votes in progress ==

====[[Hanyô]], [[Hanyou]], [[Hanyo]], [[Hanyoo]]====

=== Older than 7 days ===

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*All recipes proposed for deletion should be discussed at [[Talk:List of recipes/Delete]]

*'''Demon pages discussion moved to [[Talk:Christian demonology/deletion]].'''

*'''Deletion of number pages like [[one hundred one]] -> [[Talk:List of numbers/Deletion]]'''

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====[[Circumfetishism]]====

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====[[Glad]]====

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===January=[[Kyb 15IE GetEmAll]]====

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*[[Ballot design acorned]] - nearly-incomprehensible original material. [[User:Salsa Shark|Salsa Shark]] 11:49, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Someone's essay. Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 15:58, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Seems to be an honest attempt at an article, but the contributor needs to learn that the first thing in the article must be an explanation ofwhat this is about. I cannot tell if it is a serrious effort or just BS - [[User:Marshman|Marshman]] 17:52, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete unless author makes it vaguely comprehensible. It sounds like it might be a proposal for a new ballot design, in which case delete as original research, but I can't make enough sense of it to say for sure. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 01:00, Jan 16, 2004 (UTC)

**Not a vote. Note the new and related [[Acorn Standard Ballot]] article. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 11:20, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete and watch closely. This attempt at humour has now been posted in multiple places, including in potentially serious articles such as [[protest vote]]. But let's try to win the poster as a contributor. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 17:46, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[W. Thomas Smith, Jr.]] is on cleanup. I think it's worth keeping, but I wanted to make sure before I take the time to wikify. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 19:27, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** I vote for deleteion, he dumps his autobiography and is too lazy and lacking in respect to spend a few minutes formating it for wikipedia, delete the article (and hang the author :).

**Keep. [[User:RickK|RickK]] (Angela suggests this vote is ignored as Rick is voting to keep everything for no reason)

**Delete. Looks like self-promotion, and there's nothing to indicate that he's any more important than thousands upon thousands of other authors and journalists. [[User:Isomorphic|Isomorphic]] 20:11, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Agree w/ Isomorphic, delete. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|<font color=darkblue>ng</font>]] 00:32, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** mv memorialWiki. [[User:Reddi|JDR]]

** Not a vote: Moved entry to 15 Jan because Vfd warning wasn't added until that date. -- [[User:Oliver Pereira|Oliver P.]] 12:04, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete: personal promotion. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 16:46, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Del. --[[User:Wik|Wik]] 19:48, Jan 15, 2004 (UTC)

** Delete. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 22:47, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Keep, just barely. Seems to have written a few somewhat notable books, including one we cite as a reference in our [[Central Intelligence Agency]] article. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 06:12, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

***That "reference" was added by the same user who wrote the listed article. Looks like self-promotion.--[[User:Imran|Imran]] 21:58, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, was a possible copy vio until the author said it was his autobiography. Self-promotion like this should not be encouraged. He doesn't seem any more notable than thousands of other journalists. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 22:01, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

===January 16=[[AberSeeSaw]]====

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*[[McFly]]. This is [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]]'s site and the article was created by him to prove a point about the Wikitravel article listed above. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 04:53, Jan 16, 2004 (UTC)

**Your speculation about my purpose for creating that article is incorrect. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]] 05:06, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**It's not speculation when say it on IRC. Delete. It's a database dump with no users besides Anthony. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 05:08, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**I never said on IRC that I created the page to prove a point. I didn't. And there are users besides me so you're wrong there too. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]] 07:54, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Sub-stub that could have been instantly deleted, but good to give it the 5 days. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 08:35, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete. Any article with an external link as the first word is a huge red flag. [[User:Davodd|Davodd]] 06:52, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

** Delete: content-free. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 18:23, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete, website is not reachable and article is uninformative.[[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 00:55, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

***Website was undergoing a huge influx in hits and went down temporarily. I'm in the process of restoring it now. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]] 03:59, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, not famous. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']]

**Keep. The utility of this is as link to an outside site that is trying to be its own encyclopedia. A link from the article on [[encyclopedia]]s discussing new encyclopedic forms such as wikipedia to this article would be good, in that if the link to McFly changed the only place to chage the URL would be the [[McFly]] article. [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 18:24, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete: no content. -[[User: Moncrief|Moncrief]], 20 Jan 2004

====[[Ben Wilson]]====

*[[Medical Scientism]]

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*[[Kdatlyno]] - a trivial article about a minor charachter in a book [[User:Ledgerbob|ledgerbob]] 09:59, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Species, not character, and fictional universe, not book. Fix the spelling, and either keep or merge into [[Known Space]] and redirect. [[User:Salsa Shark|Salsa Shark]] 10:07, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete: trivial, and fictional to boot. "They are a physically large and powerful bipedel species with muscular build and thick hides growing up to eight feet tall." Come on -- this kind of pseudodetail, which was of course simply pulled out of Larry Niven's hat, isn't material for an encyclopedia. Put it on a fan page. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 22:42, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Merge into [[Known Space]] - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 23:06, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. Pulled from Larry Niven or not, this is valid info. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 19:09, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Metarmorphosis]]====

*<s>[[Protest vote]]</s> (thanks, Vardion), [[Acorn Standard Ballot]] - more original material. [[User:Salsa Shark|Salsa Shark]] 11:11, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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** Protest vote re-written. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 13:14, Jan 16, 2004 (UTC)

** They both need re-writing, not deleting. [[User:The Fellowship of the Troll|The Fellowship of the Troll]] 17:42, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep protest vote. I've never heard of Acorn standard ballot, but it sounds like some people here have. If it's real, keep and rewrite. These do not belong on VfD; protest vote certainly is a valuable topic. [User:Meelar|Meelar]] 20:19, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete [[Acorn Standard Ballot]]. No evidence such a ballot has ever been used. "Acorn standard ballot" (in quotes, exact phrase) gives no Google hits; "Acorn ballot" gives seven. Obvious attempt to use Wikipedia to promote an electoral innovation. No apparent connection with [http://www.acorn.org ACORN] (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). Compare "Instant runoff voting" (in quotes, 22100 Google hits). [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 21:31, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep [[protest vote]] now that it's been rewritten. Delete [[Acorn standard ballot]], as it doesn't seem to be a genuinely used term. (The [[Acorn standard ballot]] article seems to have vanished anyway, though...). -- [[User:Vardion|Vardion]] 00:39, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***You wouldn't think this if Wikipedia correctly handled capitalization when using the "Go" button. ChEcK yOuR cApS. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 01:43, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Technocapitalism]] - appears article author is trying to coin a phrase not in wide usage; article is POV [[User:65.58.3.176|65.58.3.176]] 21:09, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Google search reveals ~500 results, including at least one published book containing the term in its title. Seems to be a real term in at least some use, though I agree the present article is not really an article on the subject. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 21:23, Jan 16, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. There seems to be a variety of definitions of this term. This page seems to decribe the variant advocated primarily by only Suarez-Villa. Anyhow at the moment it's little more than a dictionary definition. --[[User:Imran|Imran]]

**Delete. Dictionary definition. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 01:41, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. [[User:Stirling Newberry|Stirling Newberry]] 19:10, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC) Expanded to include references from D'Souza, Kellner and the popular press. If it's out there, it should be in here.

===January=[[Weston 17Lullingfields]]====

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*[[Micronesian music]] Some anonymous person's comment on life it seems. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 03:44, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Redwolf's on the money. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 05:56, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 07:39, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:SpellBott|SpellBott]] 12:22, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, though it is oddly touching. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:27, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Keep: worthwhile topic. Somebody will fill it in. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 18:32, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. Having it here makes it more likely that someone will fill it in, and it's a valid topic. Valid topic = keep. Even badly written is better than nothing; inaccurate means blank the text, but leave the article. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 01:06, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*** It's not badly written and it's not inaccurate. Like Tempshill said, it's oddly touching. I like it just the way it is. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 05:48, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***(Not a vote) It is touching...pity we can't really preserve it anywhere. Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense doesn't seem the appropriate place. Maybe we should leave it in the article as "someone's comments on Micronesian music"? [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 21:11, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. It's a valid topic and a good start to an article. It's currently a stub and should have a stub notice, and it may not be our conventional stub format but actually it's a very '''good''' stub IMO. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 17:15, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[College Road]]====

*[[One thousand one]] Unless someone wants to do one to nine hundred ninety nine, I don't see a need for this article at present. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 04:11, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 07:34, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. But only if it is expanded a bit. 1001 is a special number often used to mean, well, a lot. 1001 Arabian Nights, 1001 the detergent. 1001 ways to.... 1001 uses for ... Certainly a more famous number than many. (Mathematically speaking, more interesting than almost all of them if we go up to infinity.) And let's not forget 1001 Dalmations. (Thsi film was 101, the book was 1001.)[[User:SpellBott|SpellBott]] 13:08, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Keep. Special significance in Arabic culture. ''Alf layla wa layla'' - a thousand nights and a night. ''Alf sukran wa shukran'' - a thousand thank-yous and a thank-you. And some stuff about fleas I will not mention :) [[User:Anjouli|Anjouli]] 17:22, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***This needs to be added to the article, then, to make it merit survival. At that point it would indeed be a keeper, but right now it's not. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:27, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Add the good stuff, then it's a keeper. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 18:48, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Thoroughly useless.[[User:Robartin|Robartin]] 18:09, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

**Yep, delete. [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 21:11, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep, since its a keeper since the good stuff '''CAN''' be added even if neither you nor I want to do it right now. [[User:BL|BL]] 05:32, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Not a sufficiently interesting number AFAIK, and the criterion should be, does the '''article''' justify the claim that it is? Even a good stub should do this, but this doesn't at present. If someone familiar with arabic culture likes to add the above claims in a suitable form, then reassess. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 21:45, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*[[Noxious trade]] - dictionary definition. Wiktionary? [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 05:40, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Wiktionary. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 05:56, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Wiktionary. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 08:11, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Wiktionary. [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 21:11, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[List of music videos]]. I smell raw duplication of information from [[List of songs by name]]. One only needs to say within [[List of songs by name]] whether that song has a video or not. [[User:Denelson83|Denelson83]] 05:42, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Bogus list. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 05:56, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 07:39, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 09:42, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Bogus list. [[User:Jade Hamblyn|Jade Hamblyn]] 11:38, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Bogus. [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 21:11, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. The vast majority of songs does not have a music video. And I think some songs has more than one. Can someone explain to me why a list of music videos is not suitable for an encyclopedia? [[User:BL|BL]] 05:32, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

***Actually, the article entitled [[music video]] already has such a list. Why not add to that one? [[User:Denelson83|Denelson83]] 09:18, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Nutty Norman]]====

*[[Source routing]] - dictionary definition. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 05:52, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

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**Wiktionary. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 05:56, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[X86-int]] - do we really need encyclopedia articles on assembly language commands? [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 08:22, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. We definitely do not need separate articles for each instruction of a processor. If the author wants to use one article to list the instructions perhaps that might be okay. Anyone doing any x86 programming is going to want to find a book anyways. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 09:42, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete; I agree with all of what Redwolf said. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:35, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 18:48, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete. Also delete [[X86-jmp]]. [[X86-mov]] is a redirect; I guess that's OK. [[X86 assembly language]] has a list of all the instructions, with the text "Click on them to read more about them" -- may want to discourage that. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 00:34, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. We definitely do need separate articles for each instruction of a processor. WP is a reference right? Therefore we need instruction references. And I expanded the page too. [[User:BL|BL]] 05:39, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Not necessary to delete. Redirect back to parent page if too little can be said for an independent article (and change parent article). [[User:Pcb21|Pete/Pcb21]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|(talk)]] 13:19, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[David Barker]]====

*[[Wikipedia:Troll war]]. Has been moved to [[m:Troll war]] at Meta. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 12:38, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 18:48, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 20:56, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Il Vicoletto]] - advert for a restaurant in Sydney. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 13:01, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Advert, delete. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:27, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 18:48, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 20:56, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Keep - it contains no real advertising information - no phone number, no boasting, etc, just a factual entry about what this restaurant really is - an Italian restaurant in Sydney. [[User:Rronline|Rronline]] 04:52, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Non-famous. Non-important. --[[User:Imran|Imran]] 22:03, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[CheShA]]====

*[[Ronald Paul Bucca]] - move to sept 11th wiki? [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 14:47, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

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**Move as stated. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 18:48, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Move, but leave a summary and link behind. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 20:57, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Keep ''if'' fire marshal is at least semi-important. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']]

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*[[Mitch del Rosario]]. Non famous. Mitch del Rosario+Printed Blanks get 2 Google hits. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 19:12, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 19:33, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 20:56, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

** Delete: personal promotion. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 00:34, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Then also delete [[Printed Blanks]], [[Brandon del Rosario]], [[Lawson Terrell]], [[Josh Hoyt]] and [[...Ever Since You]]. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 04:16, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*** I'm cool with that. Go right ahead. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 05:48, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Alt.tv.simpsons]]====

*[[Fair market]] and [[Alexander Temal]]. "Fair market" appears to be idiosyncratic to Alexander Temal (born 1983) who manages only [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Alexander+Temal%22 6 google hits]. "Fair market" was supposedly invented by Alex in 1999. "Fair market" gets plenty of hits on google, but not for Alex's use, rather as part of common terms like "fair market rents" and "fair market value". This may also fall under "original research", since there is no indication that this been published anywhere. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 21:01, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Rewrite Fair market, delete Alexandre Temal. Note that he was born in 1983. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 21:23, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

***How are people supposed to rewrite it when the concept appears not to exist? "Fair market value" is "market value" prefixed with the word 'fair' to indicate that the market value is a reasonable estimate. The first 3 pages of google results for "free market" found no theory of fair market (not even Alex's). Perhaps you're confusing it with [[free market]]? [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 21:28, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

****I voted to rewrite because "fair market value" has that meaning to me. If I misunderstood then delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 21:32, Jan 17, 2004 (UTC)

*****If someone with more knowledge of the subject would like clarify, that would be helpful. If there is a valid topic and I'm mistaken then an article about it could be written (but this does not appear to be it). [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 00:13, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**I don&#8217;t have a problem with the Alexander Temal entry being deleted. It doesn&#8217;t have any independent importance. I thought having a link to the mentioned originator might be something to have for the sake of completeness. Although there are not many hits for Alexander Temal, the one defense I will make is that there would probably not have been many for most other anarchist writers if there had been such a thing when they were alive. The name is reasonably well known to at least a thousand anarchists and socialists, and some who have merely been the victim of random literature distribution. But as I said, the article really has no importance and I have no objection to it being removed.

::As for the Fair Market entry, I do think that has merit. I read the &#8220;original research&#8221; guideline and I don&#8217;t believe this entry is the target of that guideline. It doesn&#8217;t propose facts, or at least I attempted to phrase things so that it didn&#8217;t. As with many other social and political theories, its proponents have a certain perspective on history and the state of the world, and that was presented. It doesn&#8217;t challenge any scientific research or propose any new scientific conclusions.

::Regarding &#8220;fair market rents&#8221; and &#8220;fair market value&#8221;, these are using &#8220;market&#8221; in a different sense. These instances describe the rents or value being offered for trade at prices they would normally be found at elsewhere in the market. That is, the community of trade. Fair market describes such a community being justly founded, absent of undeserved advantage or disadvantage, without dependence of one market participant on another. It isn&#8217;t a fair market something, an estimate of the price it would receive on the market, but a market itself that is fair. Market is used in the same sense as it is in &#8220;free market&#8221;.

::Regarding publishing, many other anarchist writers have not been published until recently by major publishers, and then only as historical curiosities. The publishing that took place prior by small publishers and their own publishing houses is equivalent to the printing and distribution by independents that has been done with Temal&#8217;s work. Someone noted his age, which seems irrelevant. Many entries discuss people who are not yet dead, and placing any other age related restriction would be arbitrary.

::The reason there are few results for &#8220;fair market&#8221; is that it is often mentioned as a component of an encompassing political system. However, the economics are being used outside their political context as an alternative for use within existing democratic and other political models. At least a thousand people are aware of this term. Apologies for the format of this post, feel free to reformat. [[User:Exitil|Exitil]] 00:32, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Delete [[Fair market]]: idiosyncratic to Temal. Delete [[Alexander Temal]]: personal promotion. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 00:34, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*** What are you meaning by idiosyncratic aside from the dictionary definition? If you like, I can have one of dozens of other people post the entry if there's something against the guidelines about my posting an entry about my own system. Is there such a guideline? [[User:Exitil|Exitil]] 00:35, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**** The article amounts to an essay which proposes a notion called the &quot;fair market&quot;. Apart from the essay, the idea doesn't seem to have any significance; the footnotes on the essay say as much. I think it's a good essay and a worthwhile topic, but Wikipedia exists to document existing ideas and not to expound new ones. You seem to be well informed and articulate; why not help with editing other articles -- economics, history, biography, etc. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 19:14, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Del [[Fair market]] unless it has a significant older meaning; otherwise blank it as an idea still too insignificant to require disamb from the older one; if this idea becomes sufficiently discussed for us to cover, we can write the disamb at that point. ([[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]])

***I'm new here, but I dont think disambiguation is the issue. The idea is not a variant of syndicalism, and has important differences that most syndicalists would scream about if they were lumped into the same category as the fair market. It's a legitimate alternative theory.[[User:Exitil|Exitil]] 03:30, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**** The issue is ''not'' disamb, but significance: there is no evidence that Fair Market in this sense is significant to more than a handful of people who may be grasping at straws to get their brilliance Discovered. (BTW, are you aware how few people even know what [[syndicalism]] is or care what syndicalists scream about? I wear a small sneer of pride just from the fact that my knowledge of syndicalism includes the phenomenon of "criminal syndicalism" statutes. And that [[Dustbin of history]] is a more an appopriate redirect to another group.) --[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]] 21:27, 2004 Jan 18 (UTC)

** Delete [[Alexander Temal]], non-famous so far.--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]] 02:05, 2004 Jan 18 (UTC)

**I've moved [[Alexander Temal]] to the user namespace. The resulting redirect can be deleted. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 18:41, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

** Delete. the first half is pseudo-historic rant on how capitalism went bad.

the second half gives no clear definition of the term past the one that one would guess from the name, which is that of naive communism. [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]] 19:39, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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=== January 18 ===

====[[Dumbarton Harp F.C.]]====

*[[History of slavery in the United States of America]] - Not an article, written by an admitted bookseller, just poor info on two books about the subject. [[User:Flockmeal|Flockmeal]] 06:00, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

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** This is not a vote. Do you think this article can expand? Do you think we can list the books under another article? [[User:Optim|Optim]] 06:08, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** Why is a stub with some citations worse than a stub with none? If someone has gone to the trouble of adding some valid references, I don't see the point in deleting the entire article. In short, why not just add the standard "This is a stub" description? [[User:Peak|Peak]] 06:57, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*** But it isn't a stub. A stub would have a sentence of content. Abstain. [[User:Morwen|Morwen]] 10:54, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

** If we're going to have an article titled the "History of Slavery in the USA", then I think it should have some content actually covering the history, not just brief info about some books on the subject. Maybe this article is better listed over at cleanup. [[User:Flockmeal|Flockmeal]] 06:12, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

** Delete; there are thousands of books on this subject, so an article that does nothing but list two of them at random is not really any better than no article at all. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 06:34, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

**Before it was listed for deletion, I listed it on Cleanup. Keep for now. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 07:53, Jan 18, 2004 (UTC)

** Keep, becasue it is listed on cleanup, which seems the better action. [[User:SpellBott|SpellBott]] 09:55, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Should be at least a stub. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']]

**Wrote article. I know someone can do better than it, though. C'mon people! [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 08:09, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep but move to [[Slavery in the United States of America]]. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 09:43, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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=== January 19 ===

====[[Sean Flowers]]====

*[[American Idle]] - describes unfavorable (and probably rare) view of TV show ''[[American Idol]]''. -[[User:Smack|Smack]] 02:57, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete and merge anything worthy into [[American Idol]]. [[User:Mirv|&#8212; No-One Jones]] [[User talk:Mirv|(talk)]] 03:29, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Ditto. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 04:32, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Same here. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 04:39, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:SpellBott|SpellBott]] 06:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, not valid topic. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 07:15, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 15:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete - disguised rant - [[User:Texture|Texture]] 15:51, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**It's a valid typo. Redirect to [[American Idol]] [[User:Raul654|&rarr;Raul654]] 17:10, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

*** Did you read the article? I'm a little incredulous that anyoue could see this as anything beyond an attack piece. It is a single sentence saying that the show is "taking up" valuable time. The article begins "Some thought it was strange that in the midst of a floundering if not drowning economy, wardrumming, questions about the legitimacy of the Bush presidency..." Also included are links to similar attacks on the show. I don't watch the show or find it interesting, but this article is an attack, not a spelling mistake. - [[User:Texture|Texture]] 18:01, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

****Just because the article is an attack not a spelling mistake, it doesn't mean someone might not spell idol as idle in a search engine. If we redirect we catch that traffic [[User:Theresa knott|theresa knott]] 16:29, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

*****I think you misunderstand, Texture. Theresa reinterated what I wanted to say perfectly. Yes, this is an attack rant. Delete the content, and turn the page into a redirect, to catch people who make typos. [[User:Raul654|&rarr;Raul654]] 19:53, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Rant. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:19, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** As it stands delete - but the expression does seem to be used. Gets 3,600 google hits. Yes its partisan - but so are _all_ the slogans on wikipedia. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 18:46, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. It's not NPOV, it's just a rant. [[User:Rdash|Rdash]] 18:52, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete and don't redirect as redirect would be POV. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 23:14, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

***Delete. We don't keep insulting redirects. See [[Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion]]. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 18:49, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

****except [[Dubya]] [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]] 19:43, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Amiga Religion]] - article about fanatical devotion to the [[Amiga]] computer, begins by saying "Amiga as a religion or religious cult seems to be widely overstated as such" --[[User:Smack|Smack]] 04:02, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, merge anything interesting into [[Amiga]]. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 04:37, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete & merge. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 04:39, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Ridiculous. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:19, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[The Black and White Space Marine on the Black and White Bike]]====

*[[Svend-Allan Sørensen]] - apparently a person of little importance --[[User:Smack|Smack]] 04:02, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 04:32, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 04:39, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. This guy exists and is a practicing artist. Not for us to decide if he's the next Picasso. I'm listing on [[Wikipedia:Pages needing attention]]. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 12:47, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. There is no indication that the individual has done anything notable. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 13:39, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Christopher Hsu]] - vanity page. - [[User:Hephaestos|Hephaestos]] 04:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 04:32, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Why do people think anyone cares about them? Put it on your own user page. Sheesh! - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 04:39, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, make a user page for 18.251.6.65, and move it to there. It will look very pretty. - [[User:Ashibaka]] 05:35, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***Good idea. I just did (without the edit by another anon. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 17:17, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 15:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Ambiversion]]====

*[[Truth (Serious Account)]] - looks like an older version of [[Truth]]. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 04:31, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete, article was created by someone who had disagreements over [[Truth]]. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 04:37, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Not the way to handle this sort of dispute, a very dangerous precedent in fact. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 17:03, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Idiocracy]] - one line definition. I can't see how this can be expanded without POV problems. Also an orphan. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 09:23, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. [[Idiocracy]] makes no mention of, and is easily confused with, its [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Idiocracy traditional definition] and its present definition ([http://www.pseudodictionary.com/word.php?id=9256], [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Idiocracy]) is inescapably POV. [[User:Chris Roy|Chris Roy]] 10:29, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 17:17, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Suitable only for Wiktionary, and if I were a contributor there I'd vote to delete it from Wiktionary, too, for not being a word. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 18:19, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Nalgene]]====

*[[Mother I'd Like To Fuck]] - I vote for the immediate deletion of this page. It has no rightful place in an encyclopedia accessible to children. This is an encyclopedia, not a pornopedia. The fringe element who want to know about such topics can always read Penthouse or any similar magazine, and there's (unfortunately) no shortage of such sites on the internet. Wikipedia should NOT, in my opinion, lower itself by accumulating trash which has no literary or educational value. ([[User:Davidcannon|David Cannon]] - Monday 19 January 2004, 11.03pm)

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** Yes. Delete right away. [[User:Tannin|Tannin]] 10:26, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** I concur with Cannon. Delete. [[User:Pollinator|Pollinator]] 06:44, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

** It doesn't qualify under [[Wikipedia:Candidates for speedy deletion]] [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 10:30, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, not because it's overly offensive (there's an article on [[bukkake]], fer dog's sake), but because it can't be more than a definition. [[User:Mirv|&#8212; No-One Jones]] [[User talk:Mirv|(talk)]] 10:40, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**move to wiktionary, or place on a list or something, its no stand alone article. And this is too a pornopedia, look at the article on [[Bomis]] ;) [[User:JackLynch|Jack]] 10:44, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete, but only because Wikipedia is not a slang dictionary, not because of potential offensiveness. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 11:02, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete for all the above reasons. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 15:14, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Wiktionary seems like the right place. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 17:17, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Just because this site refers to a taboo section of human sexuality, you seem to be labelling it as wrong. What is your problem? If it's the word "[[fuck]]", see the entire page on it, otherwise are you concerned that children may be able to learn about '''MILF'''? If that is such a major issue, should we remove articles on [[anal sex]], [[bestiality]] and [[incest]]. Aswell as this, assuming Wikipedia contains no entry for MILF, someone may have to type MILF into a google search, which I'm guessing would provide very few sites dedicated to explaining the concept. As for the educational value, it is useful for someone who would like to understand what the term "MILF" means. Also I think it is very childish and most unfair to compare a serious article of text to a pornographic magazine. This article is here to educate someone who would like to know about MILF, Penthouse serves to titilate the "reader". However I believe the Wiktionary to be a good place. [[User:SimonMayer|SimonMayer]] 19 January 2004 20:27 (UTC)

**I don't see any problem with the [[Mother I'd Like To Fuck]] page. Why you think it's offensive? It a 100% NPOV and encyclopedic article. Certainly keep the information contained in the article. However I have no problem to merge it with another similar article. Do we have any porn-slang article? If ys gimme the link and I will do the merge, and I will make [[Mother I'd Like To Fuck]] a redirect. This info could also be contained in some psychology article explaining the attraction to mature women etc. Please, don't let [[puritanism]] prevail in Wikipedia. Also, the usage of the term MILF is very common and widespread on the Internet and has become part of the porn sub-culture: God [[Google]] says MILF gets 5 million hits and the phrase "Mother I'd Like to F@@@" gets 26 thousand hits! So we certainly have to list this term in the encyclopedia, no matter whether we like it or not. [[User:Optim|Optim]] 22:05, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Delete. Article contains no useful information. If it did, I'd suggest that info be moved to the MILF page. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|Anthony DiPierro]] 03:22, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep or move to Wiktionary--it's right on the borderline. Like it or not, this is a valid piece of American pop culture. P.S. added note on phrase's history. I could see this turning into a valid article, with a discussion of a [[sexology|sexologist's]] view and explanation, etc. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 07:55, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***Keep. Yes it is slang, but, similar to [[Hater]], it is valid, and worth defining here. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 08:27, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**The word was invented by the scriptwriters of [[American Pie (movie)]]. I vote that all three common variants (MILF, Mom I'd.. and Mother I'd...) redirect to a subsection of that article which explains that the phrase came from the movie and has become somewhat popular, particularly on the internet (i.e. some link-farmed porn websites appear to use it), despite orginially being meant in an ironic sense. To my mind we are doing our duty not excluding knowledge, but we are also not giving this rather giggly teenage boy phrase anymore coverage than it deserves. [[User:Pcb21|Pete/Pcb21]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|(talk)]] 13:15, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**I agree with [[User:Pcb21|Pete/Pcb21]]'s extremely sensible suggestion and reasoning. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 14:33, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***Agree with PCB21. Delete and merge.

**Keep and expand or merge w/ American Pie. Not inherrantly any more offensive than other sexuality articles on Wikipedia. This site isn't aimed specifically at children, so while protecting them is all good, in this case it's the responsibility of the parents, not us. In addition, we try to discuss sexuality terms clinically here, not pornographically. --[[User:Zandperl|zandperl]] 15:42, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep, perhaps with modified title, and with a discussion of its origins and evolution. The abbreviation MILF is certainly no longer confined to porn but has become a common colloquialism on sites like [http://www.fark.com fark.com] simply to indicate an attractive woman who has given birth to children. The first time I encountered the abbreviation, I had no idea what the heck it meant and had to run a Google search. A page like this would have been exactly what I would have been hoping to find. It is the abbreviation MILF, however, that is the actual coin of the realm usage, not the full expression. In that sense, I think the page needs modifying in its title. [[User:Decumanus|Decumanus]] 16:46, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Move to MILF, '''keep''' for a while, and see whether it turns into a decent article. I agree that MILF is the term, Mothers etc. is only the ''explanation'' of the term. As for the whole offensiveness issue, this continues to need discussion, but do keep in mind that as Wikipedia is now organized, the page titles are not really very ''visible.'' People are not normally ''taken by surprise'' by a WIkipedia page. On the Internet as a whole, I believe there can be legitimate problems with people, genuinely innocently, search on a term such as "facials" (interestingly enough, Google turns up as high ranking hits on "facials" but not on "facial," good work Google!). This is much less likely to happen in Wikipedia. My main objection is that I think it's unlikely to ever become more than a dictionary entry. I just don't think there's much to say on the topic. IMHO initialism MILF itself does not rank very high on the taboo scale. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 18:04, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Oberschule am Elsengrund]] - I have asked the author(s) to actually write some text on that school. Only if they do not should this article be deleted.

**Please sign your name.... - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 17:17, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**I've looked at the article in German wikipedia and at the school web site. Its a school in east Berlin. I have added to the article but found nothing special. I will put the vfd tag on the page as you didn't. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 17:20, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

**[[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] and [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]], please don't be so strict with me. For the school in question: As far as I'm concerned, adding trivial information on a particular school does not make the article any more encyclopaedic. Encyclopaedias traditionally draw the line at university level: An institution of higher learning deserves its own article, a school does not '''unless'''<br>

::(1) the building that houses the school is of architectural value;<br>

::(2) '''lots''' of famous people were educated there, preferably by equally famous teachers;<br>

::(3) it features prominently in a book or, even better, a movie;<br>

::(4) it was the scene of a bombing, school massacre, etc.<br>

::[[User:KF|<KF>]] 20:17, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Did the policy on schools ever get finalized? KEEP, [[Wiki is not paper]]. [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] 08:19, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Pray, what policy on schools? [[User:KF|<KF>]] 14:41, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Neutral. Current practice and I think policy is to delete such entries, much discussed, sorry I can't provide a link, but I don't think it's a very well thought out policy. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 16:56, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Elena January 20 Filatova]]====

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*[[Telophase]] - dictionary definition. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 03:42, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Expand if possible, redirect to [[mitosis]] if not. [[User:Mirv|&#8212; No-One Jones]] [[User talk:Mirv|(talk)]] 03:45, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**I made it a redirect to mitosis. The mitosis article would have to get a _lot_ more detailed before we would need to farm out each phase into an article by itself. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] 03:54, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

:::It could conceivably ''get'' a ''lot'' more detailed... Alfred E. Mirsky's "The Cell, Biochemistry, Physiology, Morphology, Volume III: Meiosis and Mitosis" runs to 440 pages. Of course I don't know the book, for all I know it could be 435 pages on meiosis and 5 on mitotis. :-) [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 18:11, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Call of Duty: United Offensive]]====

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*[[Formalism (art)]] - dictionary definition. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 03:42, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Delete - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:22, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC) [[Brianism|&#x2299;]]

**This is in fact a copyvio from Merriam-Webster online. I have listed it as such. [[User:Bmills|Bmills]] 14:23, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Political terrorism]]====

*[[Windex]] - only advertisement, I don't expect this to become more then a stub ever [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 14:12, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Delete - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:22, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC) [[Brianism|&#x2299;]]

**If there were an article on [[glass cleaner]]s, it could be a redirect there, but since no such article exists, delete. [[User:Mirv|&#8212; No-One Jones]] [[User talk:Mirv|(talk)]] 14:25, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep, its a major brandname product that I'm sure has a history, composition, and uses that could fill an artilce. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 15:59, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Keep and list on [[Wikipedia:Pages needing attention]]. I'd be willing to work on it. --[[User:Zandperl|zandperl]] 16:22, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Photon torpedo]] Fictional, not much to be said about it. Merge with Star Trek article in section such as "Invented technologies". [[User:MrJones|Mr. Jones]] 14:20, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Merge & <s>Delete</s> Redirect. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:22, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC) [[Brianism|&#x2299;]] - amended [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:26, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Merge and redirect, unless there are some Trekkers out there willing to give it a fuller treatment. [[User:Mirv|&#8212; No-One Jones]] [[User talk:Mirv|(talk)]] 14:25, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep, don't merge. Being fictional is not grounds for deletion, and neither is being a stub. If it needs attention, it should be listed on [[Wikipedia:Pages needing attention]]. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] 14:31, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***It's not a stub, there is nothing more to be said about photon torpedos. [[User:MrJones|Mr. Jones]] 15:02, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

***Keep, there is much more to be said about them - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 15:59, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. This is a decent sized article about a piece of science fiction. Compare to [[One Ring]] (''[[Lord of the Rings]]'', [[Tolkien]]) if you don't like SciFi. Otherwise, see [[Physics and Star Trek]] and [[Physics and Star Wars]] for many other such "inventions." --[[User:Zandperl|zandperl]] 16:17, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

**Keep. Although photon torpedos may have been invented in Star Trek the term is now used in non-trek contexts as well. --[[User:Imran|Imran]] 19:21, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

====[[Alphabetical List of Hoboken streets]]====

*[[Lee Silvan]] nothing seems notable about this individual. Gets very few google hits [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Lee+Silvan%22 10]. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Re]][[User talk:Maximus Rex|x]] 17:08, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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**Fewer than that. One is about Silvan Michelle Lee, two are lists of names in which Lee is the last name of one person and Silvan the first of the next. Hey, ''I'' get ten Google hits! Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 18:26, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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*[[Suave]] If it is a ''kind'' of shampoo it might fit in the WP. If it is a brand, then out with it! [[User:Pfortuny|Pfortuny]] 20:24, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)

===May 24===

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====[[Expression engine]]====

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====[[The egg and the chicken problem]]====

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====[[Vince_Buffalo]]====

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====[[...The Press!]]====

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====[[Guff]]====

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====[[Chung Ling Record]]====

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====[[Chinese cannibalism]]====

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====[[Iraq Liberation Act]]====

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====[[Yayhooray]]====

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====[[Uppercase Day]]====

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====[[Canadian gun registry]]====

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=== May 25 ===

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====[[CCITT X.409 '84]]====

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==== [[Bandwagon Oklahoma Music]] and [[BandwagonOK]] ====

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====[[Tom Jackson]]====

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====[[Windermere Real Estate]]====

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====[[Robert Kyle Wilson]]====

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====[[Massage_Therapy_School_-_NMSNT]]====

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====[[Jetsam]]====

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====[[Knut_Lyngar]]====

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====[[True Magic]]====

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====[[Stepping-stone democrat]]====

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====[[Cap N1ne]]====

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====[[Phartcore_metal]]====

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====[[User:195.93.34.12/message]]====

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====[[Kevin_Anderson]]====

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====[[Stuffology]]====

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====[[Trosh]]====

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====[[Toas]]====

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====[[Jerome War Relocation Center]]====

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====[[Ulrike Köhler]] and [[Jochen Köhler]]====

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=== May 26 ===

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====[[Sexdecillion]], [[Quattuordecillion]], [[Quindecillion]], [[Tredecillion]], [[Undecillion]]====

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====[[David Pearce]]====

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====[[Nick Bostrom]]====

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==== [[Michael H. Hart]] ====

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=== May 27 ===

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====[[Vollis]]====

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====[[Kassandra Hiroshima]] and [[Kassandra HiroshimA]]====

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====[[A. Smith]]====

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====[[Digivolve]]====

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=== May 28 ===

====[[Heck]]====

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====[[Mudgik]]====

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Apologies, was not logged in.

I do not expect you to understand the importance a mutable archive of Mudgik would provide the Mudgik community. The remark is blunderous; importance is relative.

It is not a [[website]] it was a [[MUD]].

It exists today in two forms (I am still researching them).

For more MUDs that aren't 'that important' please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD#Popular_MU*s

Keepers. [[User:Yeago|Yeago]] 04:09, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

====[[Claire Chow]]====

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====[[Bikeshed]]====

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====[[Advanet]]====

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====[[Template:Top seeds for French Open 2004]]====

Is there going to be one of these for every Grand Slam in every year? By the end of the year, will there be four of these on the [[Serena Williams]] page with eighty names listed? At the end of five years, will there be twenty of them on her page? [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|'''K''']] 04:03, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

====[[Miscible]]====

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