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== SVG : Insertion of links or special functions in SVGs == ▼
[[Image:Bitmap VS SVG.svg|thumb|One of the reasons why you should use SVG instead of other file formats.]]
Is the insertion of Wikilinks into SVGs a possibility? I read on Inkscape's website that you can add links. --[[User:Seans Potato Business|Seans]] '''[[User talk:Seans Potato Business|Potato Business]]''' 01:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
[[SVG]] (Scalable Vector Graphics) resources. Why SVG, one might ask? Look to the image on the right. SVG images stored at Wikipedia or on the [[Wikimedia Commons]] aren't actually what you see in your browser when viewing Wikipedia articles. [[MediaWiki]] converts the SVG image to a [[Portable Network Graphics|PNG]] image. The SVG format is the working format of the stored image so that people can more easily convert images for use in different languages. If you're using a browser other than [[Internet Explorer]], just keep clicking the image and you'll eventually get the full-size image, which will be the SVG version. For example; keep clicking the image to the right.
:Yes, SVGs can display links or special functions, but :
:# All web browser don't understand SVG images ;
:# So, Wikipedia first convert our SVGs into PNGs to display them on Wikipedia ;
:# Accordingly, add special function to our SVG (i.e. links, SVG animations, clic-on functions, ...) are currently useless.
Yug 18:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
{{further|commons:Commons:File types#SVG{{!}}Commons:File types § SVG}}
::There exist templates to overlay links onto images. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 21:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::You can look at [[:fr:Wikip%C3%A9dia:Atelier_graphique/FAQ_SVG#Include_dynamic_SVG_functions_into_my_SVG_for_Wikipedia_.28-this_don.27t_work_currently-.29|this section for animated SVG]]. For links, I seen it (some website are totally in SVG, but 70% of the internauts can't view them -___-" because they use [[Internet Explorer|I.E.]].), but never on wikipedia. Yug 12:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Somehow, the EasyTimeline extension embeds links (I think in an overlay), but I can't figure out how. Anybody got advice that's in English? [[User:Dhatfield|Dhatfield]] ([[User talk:Dhatfield|talk]]) 17:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
== SVG help and categories ==
== Help : I look for a good software... ==
*[[Wikipedia:SVG Help]] – can ask for help here, too
We already made a page introducing most use sofwares, all free, on [[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Software]] where links are display to download them.
*[[commons:Help:SVG]]
*[[meta:SVG image support]]
*[[ :fr: WikipediaWikipédia:Atelier graphique/ FAQ_SVGFAQ SVG]] – in French▼
*[[Wikipedia:Collaboration to convert graphs to SVG]]
=== Categories ===
▲[[fr:Wikipedia:Atelier graphique/FAQ_SVG]]
*[[:Category:Scalable Vector Graphics]]
:Or, if you are allergic to choices: GIMP and Inkscape. Viola! [[User:Dhatfield|Dhatfield]] ([[User talk:Dhatfield|talk]]) 17:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[commons:Category:SVG]]
*[[meta:Category:SVG]]
*[[mw:Category:SVG extensions]] – [[MediaWiki]] extensions
== Graphic Lab resource pages ==
== Help : I don't understand the graphics workflow ==
I have been reading about your need for people who are able to process photos and diagrams and would like to offer my skills. I've looked at the 'images to improve' page and still can't see how the work-flow is supposed to work. There are instructions for people to request an image edit but I can't see how a prospective artist can 'sign up' for doing a specific job. If I just download and edit an image, then upload it to the commons, how does the system know about it? Surely you don't want people to overwrite files? is there a version control system to recover from someone corrupting a graphic?
What is to stop multiple people working on the same image? or for that matter a whole series of people tweaking the same image - possibly making it worse?
What exactly does 'Stale' mean - does it imply that a particular graphic artist is stumpped? if so, is that a green light for anybody else to have a go?
Please can somebody direct me to a tutorial with step by step instructions on how to sign up for a job, the correct way to download the image and the mechanism for linking the edited file with the original article. I've looked in vain for any pages which explain this. I am keen to help but am frustrated by the user hostile interface! If such information exists, then perhaps it would be a good idea for a link to be provided on the 'images to improve' page. I was directed to the 'images to improve' page in the hope that I could begin work immediately but I'm afraid I've hit a brick wall. I wonder how many other graphics specialists have been turned away from helping for the want of a well written tutorial.[[User:Thepixelator|Thepixelator]] ([[User talk:Thepixelator|talk]]) 14:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
*[[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Resources/PDF conversion to SVG|PDF conversion to SVG]]
:Hi. I'm kinda n00b to this Graphist thang myself (but not WP), so I'll explain the process. Download image, fix, upload to overwrite existing using DerivativeFX on Wikimedia if you can, or overwrite on WP and hope Lokal_Profil fixes the mess you made of the licensing - or that's what I do :)
*[[Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Resources/PDF conversion to SVG/Adobe Illustrator|PDF conversion to SVG/Adobe Illustrator]]
:Why?
# It seldom happens that two people work on the same image at the same time, but it occasionally happens. No biggie - then the originator gets to pick the better one. If you are concerned about this, leave a note under Graphists Opinion that you are "on it" - many people do it as a courtesy.
# Every overwrite of an image leaves the original image intact as a possible revert (in case of vandalism or incompetence), or anyone can link to the original image if they prefer it. No data is actually overwritten - this also puzzled me, but there it is. However, on the assumption that your new version is better than the old one, the new one gets put on all of the pages that reference that file (at least on your next browser cache clear - Shift-F5 in Firefox). So people don't have to be informed that there is a new image if it's the same format, they just get it automagically. For a raster to vector conversion, the linking pages have to be changed, but the originator normally does that.
== SVG fonts ==
:Other questions:
:Download the image by clicking on it and then look for the 'full resolution' link at the bottom of the page. Right click, save, fix.
:Stale means that it hasn't been done in a while and is normally a prompt for the originator to do something eg. provide better source or a .pdf version. Of course, it can apply to really tough jobs that nobody has the energy to tackle.
:Only other advice I can give is: have fun, be polite and Don't Feed the Trolls. If you've got any other questions, ask away. [[User:Dhatfield|Dhatfield]] ([[User talk:Dhatfield|talk]]) 16:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[meta:SVG fonts]]
==Q. about specific crappy image==
[http://www.well.com/Temp/crappy_image.png This]] is the best quality copy of a particular image that is available. It is from a microfilm photo, with too much contrast, that was scanned in at 4-bit color depth, so it does have greyscales. Mucking about with it in GraphicConverter, [[:Image:William A. Spinks passport photo 1924 no sig.png|this]] is the best I've been able to do with it (including mirroring horizontally so that lit side of face is toward text, as seen at [[:William A. Spinks]]). Is it plausible to improve this image further, or is this a lost cause and not worth adding a request for? — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> [[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]] [[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]] <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 16:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
== Tutorials ==
* [[Wikipedia:How to draw a diagram with Inkscape]]
*[[:Image:Tutorial-cartography (basic).svg]] - Learn quickly how to draw [[SVG]] maps, '''to open in Inkscape'''.
*Learn SVG: Taming SVG one Tutorial at a Time - Learn SVG : Tutorials, Maps, Books. [http://learnsvg.com/tutorials/tutorialBasics/]
*[[Open Directory]] - Computers: Data Formats: Graphics: Vector: SVG: FAQs, Help, and Tutorials. [http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Data_Formats/Graphics/Vector/SVG/FAQs,_Help,_and_Tutorials]
▲== SVGQuestions :about Insertioninsertion of links or special functions in SVGs ==
See the talk page, [[Wikipedia talk:Graphic Lab/Resources/SVG]], and the talk section titled "SVG : Insertion of links or special functions in SVGs."
== See also ==
*[[commons:Commons:File types|Commons:File types]]
[[Category:Wikipedia Graphics Lab|SVG resources]]
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