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=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tom Sayle|Tom Sayle 5]] ===
{{rfcu box|case=Andy Bjornovich|filed=18:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)}}
* {{checkuser|Andy Bjornovich}}
*{{checkip|79.74.68.121}}
*{{checkip|79.74.100.20}}
*{{checkip|79.73.66.45}}
*{{checkip|79.73.69.110}}
*{{checkip|79.74.107.241}}
*{{checkip|79.74.13.91}}
*{{checkip|79.74.21.82}}
*{{checkip|79.73.87.222}}
*{{checkip|79.73.44.34}}
*{{checkip|79.73.89.83}}
*{{checkip|79.74.87.148}}
*{{checkip|79.74.59.188}}
*{{checkip|79.74.13.91}}
*{{checkip|79.74.84.119}}
* '''[[WP:RFCU#code letters|Code letter]]: G'''
*'''Supporting evidence'''
This is a bit of a different request. [[User:Andy Bjornovich|Andy Bjornovich]] aka Tom Sayle aka [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tom Sayle|55 other names]] has requested unblock. He has been denied, twice, but another admin ([[User:Sandstein|Sandstein]]) asked him to provide a list of all his other accounts as a first step towards possibly being unblocked. They're listed above, but they're all IPs; I find it unlikely that there are no named accounts we don't know about yet.
[[User:Coren|Coren]], as the original blocking admin, has also denied the request, asking Andy/Tom to work through the 2nd chance process. Assuming in good faith that Andy is able to work within those constraints to post an article to his talk page (though [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndy_Bjornovich&diff=254028915&oldid=254027806 initial edits are not promising], he has put up a proposed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndy_Bjornovich&diff=254031489&oldid=254028915 dab page]), I'd like to see him have the chance to be unblocked--''if'' he has been honest about disclosing all other socks.
A (very) quick chat with a CU told me that this is a reasonable request to make, so I'm asking on the basis of 'clearing out the sockdrawer', given the dozen new IPs that have been provided. //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#00009C;font-size:80%;">'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #00009C;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;"> </span>]] <small>16:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</small>
Update: adding {{userlinks|79.74.13.91}} per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andy_Bjornovich&diff=next&oldid=254045068 this diff]. //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#00009C;font-size:80%;">'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #00009C;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;"> </span>]] <small>17:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</small>
:A quick note that this may be moot; the editor in question has continued to attempt gaming the 2nd chance process by submitting sub stub BLPs. I've redirected their talk and protected given that there is no desire to actually work on the encyclopedia, but a great deal of wasted admin energy wasted. — [[User:Coren|Coren]] <sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 19:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hah, you beat me here! :P I think it's still worth asking CU to clean out anything remaining in the sockdrawer. Given your prot of his talkpage, I have the feeling weel be seeing either more anons or more named in 3..2..1... //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#00009C;font-size:80%;">'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #00009C;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;"> </span>]] <small>19:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)</small>
*'''Adding''' {{checkip|79.74.84.119}}; same range as Tom Sayle; behaviourally similar (adding self to category 'looking for admin help' without using adminhelp template); knows who Wafulz (original blocking admin) is and his email adx. //[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#4B0082; font-size:x-small;>'''roux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Roux|<span style="border:1px solid #4B0082;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;color:#4B0082;"> </span>]] <small>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Roux|editor review]]<small>20:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</small>
{{Likely}} Re: this last one. Note to other admins, the editor may be trying to get back into enwiki through SUL from other wikis (including commons). Please contact Lar or me if necessary. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 02:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
*'''Note from ACC''' Recently (within the last month) we have received multiple requests through ACC for accounts from one of the listed IPs as well as others under Tom Sayle rangeblocks (omitted for privacy), so the user may be trying to circumvent the system using ACC as well as SUL. Contact me if necessary. --[[User:Terrillja|<span style="color:#003300;">Terrillja</span>]][[User Talk:Terrillja|<span style="color:black;"><sub> talk</sub></span>]] 07:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tom Sayle|Tom Sayle 4]]===
{{rfcu box|case=Just Plain Brittish|filed=18:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)}}
* {{checkuser|Just Plain Brittish}}
* {{checkuser|Mrs. U. I. O. P., Mr. O'. de la Qwerty}} (already blocked, included for comparison)
* {{checkip|79.73.54.44}}
* '''[[WP:RFCU#code letters|Code letter]]: F'''
* '''Supporting evidence:''' as per usual; correcting spelling of other users on talk pages/editing or refactoring comments [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PeterSymonds&curid=3342426&diff=250669842&oldid=250655755],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:64.230.92.23&diff=prev&oldid=250632064],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Soulscanner&diff=prev&oldid=250476962]
*idiosyncratic editing of policy pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Don%27t_template_the_regulars&diff=prev&oldid=250671014] (adding link to policy [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Do_template_the_regulars&action=history edited 4 times by confirmed socks]) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Responding_to_threats_of_harm&diff=prev&oldid=250662418], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry/Notes_for_the_suspect&diff=prev&oldid=250523592 editing page last edited by another confirmed sock of his]
*seems to be doing the usual outing of self [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Roux&diff=prev&oldid=250654335], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mike_Rosoft&diff=prev&oldid=250654598]
*idiosyncratic 'tidying' of various user pages [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:David_Q.A._Pritchard&diff=prev&oldid=250672703],
::(in fact, may want to check userpages edited, as this puppeteer has a history of talking to self via other socks)
*creation of redirects [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=U._Stephens&diff=prev&oldid=250403975], standard behaviour for this sock
['''[[User:Roux|<span style="color:#36454F;">roux</span>]]''' » [[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:#36454F;">x</span>]]] 18:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
{{Confirmed-nc}}
#{{checkuser|Just Plain Brittish}}
#{{checkuser|Brittish incompetance}}
Once again, a small range and a big range. The small range is {{IPblock}} for now. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 21:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:{{clerknote}} blocked and tagged already. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 22:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tom Sayle|Tom Sayle 3]]===
{{rfcu box|case=O'delanca|filed=19:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)}}
* {{checkuser|O'delanca}} (Already blocked by [[User:Lar|Lar]])
* '''[[WP:RFCU#code letters|Code letter]]: F'''
* '''Supporting evidence:''' as per usual; idiosyncratic enforcement of WP rules; creation of user subpages (e.g /Chess and User_talk/chess); editing of policies; etc. Already blocked, but I filed this so the rest of the current sockfarm can be rooted out. Can we do something more permanent? <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 19:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
**{{Confirmed}} Technical and behavioral evidence indicates that the following account is a sockpuppet of Tom Sayle:
***{{checkuser|O'delanca}}
**As for the farm, this is a highly dynamic system. Last time I checked >65K IPs, this time over 100K. The last sweep caught almost all of them. There is a small range that is different from the standard, and that is being hardblocked, but to hardblock >110K IPs because of this puppeteer is a bit much. So the small range is {{IPblock}} and the large one will require vigilance, I'm afraid. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 19:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
**{{clerknote}} Blocked & Tagged. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 20:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
===[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tom Sayle|Tom Sayle]] 2===
{{rfcu box|case=Tom Sayle|filed=21:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)}}
*{{checkuser|Tom Sayle}} (incl as puppeteer)
*{{checkuser|1=Supersonic Pokémon}}
*{{checkip|1=79.73.5.12}}
*{{checkip|1=79.74.45.225}}
*{{checkuser|1=Supersoniquizard}} (openly admitted)
*{{checkuser|1=Stereotyper}}
* '''[[WP:RFCU#code letters|Code letter]]: F, G'''
* '''Supporting evidence:'''
:*Same behaviour; welcoming self on [[User talk:Supersonic Pokémon|talk page]], awarding self [[User:Supersonic Pokémon/Prize cabinet|barnstars and awards]], notification of having Asperger's, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiPint&diff=prev&oldid=247804337 editing some] of the same articles/templates as [[User:Thomas Sales]] in the same way.
:*Appears to confirm previous identities [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Roux&diff=cur here]
:*Admits to IP vandalism [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Supersonic_Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=19933750&diff=247810517&oldid=247810097 here]
:*Confirms all sockpuppets mentioned in this case in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Supersonic_Pok%C3%A9mon&curid=19933750&diff=248595698&oldid=248012918 this] unblock request.
:*This is all copied from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Tom_Sayle_(4) SSP].
<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 21:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{confirmed}} {{checkuser|Tom Sayle}} = {{checkuser|Supersonic Pokémon}} = {{checkuser|Supersoniquizard}} = {{checkuser|Stereotyper}} = both IPs. <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] </span><sub>([[User talk:Nishkid64|Make articles, not wikidrama]])</sub> 03:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:{{clerknote}} Named accounts blocked & tagged. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 04:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mr. SvMvP|Mr. SvMvP]] ===
{{rfcu box|case=Mr. SvMvP|filed=19:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)}}
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* {{checkuser|Mr. SvMvP}}
* {{checkuser|Mr. Templatedtalkpagediter}}
::*This one redirs to [[User:Mr. SvMvP]]
* These last two are already banned as puppets of {{checkuser|Tom Sayle}}
:* {{checkuser|Disliker of humanities}}
:* {{checkuser|Mathematiquizard}}
* Known IPs used:
:{{checkip|1=79.73.93.44}}
:{{checkip|1=79.74.63.15}}
:{{checkip|1=79.74.0.15}}
:{{checkip|1=79.74.8.46}}
* '''[[WP:RFCU#code letters|Code letter]]: G'''
* '''Supporting evidence:'''
Same MO; same age; welcoming self on talk page; shows a far greater knowledge of WP than would be expected from a brand-new account from a 13-year-old kid. Compare userpage with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mathematiquizard&oldid=246130152 this]; compare reactions at [[WP:SSP]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Tom_Sayle_(3)]) with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mathematiquizard&oldid=246272779] (see unblock requests).
Was referred here by [[User:Scarian]], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Tom_Sayle_(3)&curid=19907815&diff=247224595&oldid=247223685]. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 19:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I think you'll find they appear to be blocked as puppets, not banned.--[[User:Mr. SvMvP|Mr. SvMvP]] ([[User talk:Mr. SvMvP|talk]]) 19:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mr._SvMvP&curid=19891309&diff=247231623&oldid=247222289 This] may also be useful (spamming unblock requests), as well as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mr._SvMvP&curid=19891309&diff=247232108&oldid=247231623 this], where he courteously provides us with his IP; 79.74.8.46 (added above). <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 19:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
{{Confirmed}} Technical and behavioral evidence available at this time indicates that the following editors are related to each other. There will likely be overlap with [[:Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tom Sayle]]:
#{{checkuser|Æconomique}}
#{{checkuser|AmyW1}}
#{{checkuser|André Ó'déłámóñtŕágñéáúxtéíxtéíŕá}}
#{{checkuser|Andy Bjornovich}}
#{{checkuser|CaRainford}}
#{{checkuser|CFrancisW}}
#{{checkuser|Chris Wattson}}
#{{checkuser|Disliker of humanities}}
#{{checkuser|DrJessW}}
#{{checkuser|EKGFW}}
#{{checkuser|FeWo}}
#{{checkuser|FQz}}
#{{checkuser|HeCaFo}}
#{{checkuser|JDJL}}
#{{checkuser|KaMans}}
#{{checkuser|KatJack}}
#{{checkuser|KBrownY}}
#{{checkuser|LExperazzard}}
#{{checkuser|Mai Lee1}}
#{{checkuser|Mariadomican}}
#{{checkuser|Mathematiquizard}}
#{{checkuser|Mike Sales}}
#{{checkuser|Mr. Opensockpuppeter}}
#{{checkuser|Mr. Secondattempt}}
#{{checkuser|Mr. SvMvP}}
#{{checkuser|Mr. Templatedtalkpagediter}}
#{{checkuser|OttisF}}
#{{checkuser|RosiSay}}
#{{checkuser|RRobinson1}}
#{{checkuser|SeWa2}}
#{{checkuser|ShakerahF}}
#{{checkuser|The open sockpuppet}}
#{{checkuser|Thomas Sales}}
#{{checkuser|Thomas Sayle}}
#{{checkuser|Tom Sales}}
#{{checkuser|Tom Sayle}}
#{{checkuser|YPLR}}
{{Clerk Request}} The main account seems to be {{checkuser|Tom Sayle}}. Perhaps this should be refiled?
-- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 20:06, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
*{{Clerk Request}} Question: does this mean I should change 'suspected' to 'confirmed' sock on his userpage, blank & redir everything? Or does the blocking admin handle that? <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 20:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Oh dear, might also want to check these, per [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:79.74.33.152&oldid=228217954 this]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wafulz/Archive_20#Tom_Sayle_nonsense this] diff from Wafulz' page (I think he did the first Tom Sayle block) should also be handy.
{{checkuser|MaCMMJW}}
{{checkuser|GAJW1}}
:<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; color:navy;">'''[ [[User:Roux|<span style="color:olive">roux</span>]] ] ['''[[User talk:Roux|<span style="color:olive;">x</span>]]''']'''</span> 20:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
{{Likely}} -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 20:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
*{{clerknote}} Okay, case merged from [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mr. SvMvP]]. Also all confirmed socks have been blocked & tagged appropriately. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 21:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
**Thanks! -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] ([[User talk:Avraham|talk]]) 02:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tom Sayle|Tom Sayle]] ===
{{rfcu box|case=Tom Sayle|filed=01:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)}}
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I semi-prot'd Half's talk page for a month last night. All the range block possibilities I tried came up /17 which would block over 32K IPs, which I'm not comfortable with. Therefore, this is {{deferred}} another CU for additional input. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — [[User:Rlevse|<span style="color:#060;">'''''R''levse'''</span>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 11:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
*First off, {{likely}}-->{{confirmed}} that Tom Sayle is a reincarnation of {{
:{{clerknote}} Interesting that there is no user creation log for [[User:Mr. Secondattempt]]. Part of an ancient sleeper sock drawer? —[[User:Wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:Wknight94|talk]]) 13:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::User:Mr. Secondattempt is an SUL account created on wiktionary. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 18:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::<small>[http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Mr.+Secondattempt You learn something new every day...] —[[User:Wknight94|Wknight94]] ([[User talk:Wknight94|talk]]) 18:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)</small>
::Just to clarify, Thatcher, are you saying that you would, based on the checkuser evidence of the range listed above, support a 79.74.0.0/17 anon-only rangeblock? Just want to be clear that this is a good idea before we do it... --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 17:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the problem can be dealt with by semi-protecting Half's talk page, that would be the more conservative approach. On the other hand, an anon block on the range will have little collateral damage. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 18:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks. If the problems stay contained to Half's talk page, then we shouldn't need to rangeblock. His talk page is semi-protected now. If this guy starts acting up again, and starts causing more wide ranging problems, I will consider it. Thanks. --[[User:Jayron32|Jayron32]].[[User talk:Jayron32|<small>talk</small>]].[[Special:Contributions/Jayron32|<small>contribs</small>]] 18:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
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