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The result of the debate was '''no consensus''' (4 keep, 1 delete, 2 merge). '''[[User:Jaxl|<span style="color:darkblue;">Rob</span>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">e</span>]][[User talk:Jaxl|<span style="color:darkblue;">rt</span>]]''' 23:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
===[[Tom Freda]]===
Non-notable. '''Delete''' --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[User:Spinboy|Spinboy]] 02:49, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
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'''NOTE:''' This page was deleted for some unknown reason, and was recreated by Spinboy. I've restored it to its original undeleted version. --[[User:Blackcap|Blackcap]] | [[User_talk:Blackcap|talk]] 22:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
'''FURTHER NOTE:''' The admin responsible was [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]]. Please see [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive45#Large scale AfD unlisting|WP:ANI#Large scale AfD unlisting]] for details. --[[User:Blackcap|Blackcap]] | [[User_talk:Blackcap|talk]] 22:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per my argument at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre L. J. Vincent]]. --[[User:Blackcap|Blackcap]] | [[User_talk:Blackcap|talk]] 06:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
**Semi large? It's not that large. --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[User:Spinboy|Spinboy]] 06:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
*As above. Depends whether the organisation is notable or not. If it is, these two need to be kept. [[User:The Land|The Land]] 11:33, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
**They've been in the news recently, at least the organization, due to the new [[Governor General of Canada]]. That being said, they aren't as big an organization as the [[Canadian Federation of Taxpayers]] for example. They're just a small blip on the Canadian spectrum. --[[Image:Ottawa flag.png|20px]] [[User:Spinboy|Spinboy]] 16:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
***Actually, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, despite its name, has only ten voting members so I suspect the CCR is actually "bigger" if not as well funded. [[User:HOTR|Homey]] 01:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Weak keep'''. I guess you could categorise them as a major Canadian republican body, in that they seem to be prominent within the very small Canadian republican movement. They do get some google news hits. [[User:Pburka|Pburka]] 16:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' into [[Citizens for a Canadian Republic]]. Unlike [[Pierre L. J. Vincent]], Tom has no notability out of the CfaCR. -- [[User:Corvus|Corvus]] 18:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
**Mmmmm... good point. However, if the organization is considered significant, he may warrant his own article. Depends: [[m:eventualism]] vs. [[m:mergism]]. I think I'll stick to my original vote for now, though. --[[User:Blackcap|Blackcap]] | [[User_talk:Blackcap|talk]] 18:29, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Merege''' as per [[User:Corvus]]. Seems to have no sepeerate notability -- at least none is asserted in the articel as it stands. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:36, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - he's regularly interviewed by radio and tv and quoted in newspapers, particularly when there's a royal visit as well as on or around [[Victoria Day]] for the past few years. If [[John Aimers]] (of whom it can be said has no notability outside of the Monarchist League of Canada) merits an article, so does Freda. [[User:
*'''Keep''' - He's a co-founder of Canada's first republican movement (an achievement in its own right), their main anglo spokesperson, and as Homey just mentioned, he regularly speaks on behalf of organized Canadian republicans in the media. And again, if the head of their monarchist counterpart deserves a page, so should the head of the republicans. As far as the significance of the organization is concerned, they recently formed a strategic alliance with the republican movements of Austrailia, NZ and UK. So not only are they recognized in Canada as the voice of Canadian republicans, but also internationally. I think it's obvious what's happening here. The attempts to delete this page are coming from monarchists who will do anything to sabotage the republican movement. I hope admin will see through these attepmts for what they are - vandalism. [[User:MC Rufus|MC Rufus]] 01:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
* <s><small> (vote actually by [[User:Olaf 2|Olaf 2]], forging [[User:MC Rufus|MC Rufus]]'s signature.) '''[[User:Jaxl|<span style="color:darkblue;">Rob</span>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">e</span>]][[User talk:Jaxl|<span style="color:darkblue;">rt</span>]]''' 23:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)</small></s>
* No, the vote wasn't forged. My roommate forgot to log out and I had assumed I still was. My apologies [[User:MC Rufus|MC Rufus]] 11:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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