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{{User|adam1213}} – [Your nomination/description of the user]
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{{User|Adam1213}} – [I remove vandalism]
:''I want to be an admin [[User:Adam1213|<b><big><span style="background-color: #FFFF00">&#9786;</span></big><span style="background-color: #FFFF00"><span style="font-size:large;color:#FF9900;">A</span><span style="font-size:large;><span style="color:#00FFFF;">d</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">a</span><span style="color:#00FF00;">m</span>1213</span></span><big><span style="background-color: #FFFF00">&#9786;</span></big></b>]]|[[user_talk:Adam1213|<span style="color:#C0C0C0;">talk</span>]] 06:06, 14 October 2005 (UTC)''
'''Support'''
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'''Oppose'''
# This candidate might be doing a good job at removing vandalism, but I doubt he is ready enough for administrator powers. Try again in several months (not [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Adam1213/old|in one week]]). [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] ([[User talk:Oleg Alexandrov|talk]]) 06:06, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
#<s>'''Oppose'''. I hate to come off the bat with this, but I feel like not enough time has passed since your last RfA, which is listed below. I think the more appropriate choice would have been to create a new RfA page, but link to this one. Either way, I think it's still too soon. [[User:Evilphoenix|&Euml;vilphoenix]] <sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Evilphoenix|Burn!]]</b></small></sup> 06:15, 14 October 2005 (UTC) </s><br>'''Strong Oppose'''. User blanked my oppose vote the first time I posted it, amongst re-factoring this page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Adam1213&diff=next&oldid=25489011]. User has also been engaging in asking for support on IRC, which I object to. [[User:Evilphoenix|&Euml;vilphoenix]] <sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Evilphoenix|Burn!]]</b></small></sup> 0506:5819, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
# '''Strong Oppose''' My interaction with this user (realtime on irc) has shown me that he's a little bit immature. His reaction style can also be seen at [[User_talk:JIP]] when JIP ask him to put a different topic under the header section of a different topic. I don't know if it bad faith or not, but he was still not understanding somethign as simple as starting a new section when editing a page, so I don't feel comfortable giving him the shotgun. Moreover, this renomination a week from the closing of the past one is more evidence about the immaturity of this user (he can't stand the result and he can't wait until the issues are fixed). So no, this user cannot have the shotgun.
#:Although he also seems overly eager to get the admin bit, it seems to me that he fails to show complete understanding about what adminship is about (it is NOT just the rollback button for RC) after all, no big deal, right? Also, pretty much never uses [[Wikipedia:Always fill in the summary field|edit summaries]].
#:Also, about my comments below about he believing adminship = RCpatrol and RCpatrol is a race against time. In his hurry he is sometimes reckless, reverting and moving on without bothering to check the article's history for the last good version or simply reverting to the bad version: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fictional_country&diff=prev&oldid=25027667] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Your_mamma&diff=25187494&oldid=25187465] when actually thr the last good version by Rdsmith4 was a few versions behind [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Your_mamma&diff=22469110&oldid=22368906]. Fixing vandalism is more than just clicking rollback as it seems to him, it implies checking history and sometimes *gasp* doing manual reverts.
#: So let it be clear thatn I'm not opposing basing on editcount. -- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:58, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
#::When reading his comments, it appears that he '''was''' using the "+" button like I told him to, but leaving out the section title. This caused the text to still appear under the previous section. He has now learned to write proper section titles and I feel the matter is settled now. [[User:JIP|&mdash; <span style="color:#CC0000;">J</span><span style="color:#00CC00;">I</span><span style="color:#0000CC;">P</span>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 07:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' I don't think that Adam1213 has shown the understanding of Wikipedia policies and practice needed to be an admin. Fighting vandalism is commendable, but it isn't a good way to pick Administrators. --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 06:45, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
#: Exactly, adminship is not the same as RC patrolling. -- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:58, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 
'''Neutral'''
# I feel awful writing this after having been in a personal dispute with the user mere minutes ago, but I don't think he's quite experienced enough yet. [[User:JIP|&mdash; <span style="color:#CC0000;">J</span><span style="color:#00CC00;">I</span><span style="color:#0000CC;">P</span>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 06:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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'''Comments'''
* Could you expand further on the questions? How do you plan on helping users on conflicts? Any Main namespace editing contribution you're proud of (that is, nontemplate and nonuserspace? Using edit summaries isn't dealing with hot conflicts. Please expand on your answers. -- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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* Also, can you explain the relevance of the templates [[Template:Vw]] [[Template:Vw2]] [[Template:Vw3]] [[Template:Vw4]] [[Template:Vw5]], [[Template:Vw-n]], [[Template:Vw2-n]], [[Template:Vw3-n]], [[Template:Vw4-n]], [[Template:Vw5-n]]? They all seem duplicates of the standard "test" templates except for the autosign. Are they really that needed? You say becuase it speeds up vandal warning, but truly, how much time you lose typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> ? a second and a half? It's not a race, and in your hurry, you never seem to use edit summaries, which is much more useful regarding RC than the autosignature.
: Please don't remove my comments, even after you asnwer them. -- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:43, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
* Can you explain which sysop functions you think you need/will use and why, for those things why aren't your current permissions adequate? --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]<sup>([[User_talk:Pgk|<span style="color:mediumseagreen">talk</span>]])</sup> 07:03, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 
 
'''Questions for the candidate'''<br />
''A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:''
:'''1.''' What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about [[Wikipedia:administrators|administrators]] and the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]].)
::'''A'''. I would do RC Patrol anda lot. I would help new users trying to work things out and tryusers tothat solvecant conflicts.work something out.
:'''2.''' Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
::'''A'''. My vw (vandalism warning) templates. They have the same naming system as the test
:ones but they have automatic signatures. This will save time when you are trying to warn
:users about vandalising and remove vandalism at the same time.
:: '''Comment''': Well, this hurry you have actually hurts more than it helps. Given that you almost never use edit summaries and sometimes youre reckless in your hurry. -- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users : have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
::'''A'''. yes. I have put mythe reasons for my opinion in edit summariessumaries some times messages the user. SometimesThe inproblem commentsis normaly solved by just doing this.
::: '''Comment''' Yes, most of the times. The question is about the hot conflicts when this is not enough. What would you do in those cases? Block the other party?-- ([[User:Drini|drini's page]]|[[User talk:Drini|<big>&#x260E;</big>]]) 06:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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::: '''Question''' Have you been involved in any nasty conflicts? If you have, can you point out some examples, and explain how they were resolved? Thanks, --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 07:02, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I did not blank the opposed vote or if I did it was an accident
 
Please speak to me before you vote. Even if you end up voting against me being an admin for some reason you will be able to make a comment.
If you want to speak to me you will probably find me in wikipeida-en-vandalism
 
It has been soted out with jip and he did not ask me about topic. I always click the new section button when adding to someones talk page. With the comment I cant take it when I dont get my way or something like that, that is not right. I like to hear others opinions and come to a conclusion.
 
I did not remove your commence on purpose I was editing the page and it must of been overwritten
 
 
 
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Last time... I Stopped it so please below I have left it so that users dont get anoyyed
 
 
Please read what I have said below before voting and just saying not enough edits
 
'''Support'''
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'''Oppose'''
#I will be delisting this nomination. Its good faith, but you're just too new. [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]) 23:56, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' This user only has around 150 edits, despite making first edit in May 2005. He also did not show a command of Wikipedia editing in creating this self-nomination. The answers to the questions do not show a grasp of policy or basic Wikipedia guidelines. Maybe, if you continue for another six to eight months with good, Wikipedia editing, we can revisit this nomination. Until then, I cannot approve this nomination. [[User:Bratsche|<font color="#006666">Bratsche</font>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bratsche|<font color="#FF6600">talk</font>]] | [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="#339900">Esperanza</font>]]</sup> 23:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' as above. Many of the small number of edits were to own user page to boot. [[User:Fawcett5|Fawcett5]] 00:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. Lack of [[edit summary|edit summaries]]. [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] 00:42, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. You are joking right? You don't meet a single one of my [[User:Marudubshinki/Admin standards|standards]]. --[[User:Marudubshinki|Maru]] [[User_talk:Marudubshinki|(talk)]] 00:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. While this user has been around since May 25, he has only been truly active on Wikipedia for about three days. It is much too soon for the community to make an informed decision on Adam1213's trustworthiness. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]''&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 02:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''': this really shouldn't have proceeded.--[[User:Cyberjunkie|Cyberjunkie]] | [[User_talk:Cyberjunkie|Talk]] 03:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. The user claims having removed lots of vandalism while in fact, a good part of the removals wasn't vandalism at all. - [[User:Introvert|<font color="#004161">Introvert</font>]] [[User talk:Introvert|<font color="#004161"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 03:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. In addition to leaving notes that he removed vandalism, he is leaving behind new original vandalism in the same edit! At least on some. Strange case this Jekell and Hyde. [[User:Stbalbach|Stbalbach]] 05:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 
 
'''Neutral'''
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'''Comments'''
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You cant rate a user on how many edits they make entirerly.
I have removed lots of vandalism quickly. Try prove me worse than a user that has been on wikipedia a long time. There edits will be greater. But does this mean that if I was an admin and they were an admin they would do a better job? I really dont think so at all, they will contributed to a lot of articles, I will do the same but also remove a lot of vandalism.
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Think of the huge ammount of things that I will acomplish for wikipedia not what I already have.
 
Why do you think that I am not ready for them?
I have found admins with below 1200 edits
If I do not use them how would that be a problem.
 
Last time... I Stopped it.[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Adam1213/old|The link to the things last time (unfortunatly they are mainly bad)
'''Questions for the candidate'''<br />
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''A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:''
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. <span style="color:red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.''</div>
:'''1.''' What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about [[Wikipedia:administrators|administrators]] and the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]].)
::A. I will remove vandalism very fast. I will speak about ideas to change certaint things about the GUI and if aproved changed them
:'''2.''' Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
::A. Yes all of them but mainly the ones where I removed vandalism in not to long.
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
::A. Yes I have seen this, I think that on the talk page the reasons to add or delete something need to be stated this alone can even fix this problem. But an admin might need to help them get in to negotiating
 
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I have an idea on making it faster to find people vandalising.
There needs to be a search function for in artciles and a list of pages with commonly used vandalsit's words (boring, is the king, is shit)