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The result of the debate was '''no consensus'''. (5m, 6d) - [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 14:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
===[[Differentiating Functions]]===
I'm fairly positive this article is identical in material to the article [[Calculus with polynomials]], so I move that it be deleted. If I'm missing something important, don't hesitate to let me know. In the discussion, put '''Delete''' if you agree and '''Keep''' if you don't. Comments are also welcome. - [[User:ElAmericano|ElAmericano]] 00:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*It is a while since I did calculus at school. While I am prepared to accept that the article being considered for deletion covers the same ground as [[Calculus with polynomials]] I would suggest that it is beter expressed for those of us who are a little rusty. I suggest a '''merge''' or at the very least some attempt to include material for the layperson in ''Calculus with polynomials''.--[[User:AYArktos|AYArktos]] [[User_talk:AYArktos| (Talk)]] 00:31, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:The thing is, the article is just a proof that the polynomial power rule works. It doesn't explain anything about calculus. I'm ''fairly'' new to Wikipedia (I was around, but not very active, before I registered), so I'm not sure, but is it Wikipedia habit to put mathematical proof for laymen in articles? If so, I will agree with you. - [[User:ElAmericano|ElAmericano]] 01:52, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*This afd nomination was [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion|orphaned]]. Listing now. No opinion. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] [[User talk:Cryptic|(talk)]] 05:15, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
**Sorry, I hadn't done an afd/vfd before and thought you just put <nowiki>{{VfD}}</nowiki> at the top of the page and followed the link here. Should I go ahead and fix it, or would that mess things up? - [[User:ElAmericano|ElAmericano]] 15:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
***It's already fixed. —[[User:Cryptic|Cryptic]] [[User talk:Cryptic|(talk)]] 00:39, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''delete''' unless someone's willing to do some serious cleanup. It has essentially no formatting right now; in my book that's grounds for deletion in itself, in an article that long. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] 05:44, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''delete''' inappropriate redunancy. we're not a textbook. the important facts about differentiation can already be found elsewhere. -[[User:Lethe|Lethe]] | [[User talk:Lethe|Talk]] 06:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' after further cleanup to [[Calculus with polynomials]]. The only part of the proof that I suspect is the use of the binomial theorem. If that's legit, we should keep it. [[User:Gazpacho|Gazpacho]] 06:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' the proof is basically fine; the problem is that it's presented in essentially stream-of-consciousness form, and contains nonsense assertions like "Differentiating is the differentiation quotient in one point". If you want to add the proof to [[Calculus with polynomials]], I have no objection to that, provided it's rewritten to have some logical structure. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] 06:20, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
* It should be renamed [[proof of the power rule in differentiation]] and get a complete rewrite. Unless anybody is willing to do the work, this article should be '''deleted''' or '''redirected'''. [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] ([[User talk:Oleg Alexandrov|talk]]) 06:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''delete'''. The page [[Derivative (examples)]] shows differentiation from first principles already. It may be useful to move the proof there. The other page [[Calculus with polynomials]] is also a bit of a mess. The paragraph on 'Formal Diffentiation' seems out of place, and not at all well explained.[[User:Mattopia|Mattopia]] 06:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
:: I would disagree with moving the proof to [[derivative (examples)]]. That one is a sweet elementary article showing several very concrete examples, and does not need this proof which does not add much value in understanding the derivative for novices beyond what already is in [[derivative (examples)]]. I agree that the [[calculus with polynomials]] article is a mess, that might not hurt being turned into a redirect to [[derivative (examples)]] as well (without copying any of the info). [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] ([[User talk:Oleg Alexandrov|talk]]) 07:11, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. This is text book material, not fit for an encyclopaedia (so transwiki to [[b:Real analysis/Differentiation]] or [[b:Calculus:Differentiation]] is an option). If there is no consensus for deleting the article, it is probably best to merge it with [[calculus with polynomials]]. -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] ([[User talk:Jitse Niesen|talk]]) 12:24, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''merge''' somewhere. Possibly [[Calculus with polynomials]]. I find it hard to beleive that we don't have this proof already somewhere. --[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 12:32, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. I am usually fond of chatty proofs, but this one is too chatty. [[User:Rick Norwood|Rick Norwood]] 14:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' and '''redirect''' somewhere, if this topic doesn't qualify for its own article. This is useful information, and explained in a way I could understand. --[[User:Horsten|TH]] 15:11, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' any useful information to [[calculus with polynomials]]. [[User:Jacqui M Schedler|<span style="color:#663366;">Jacqui</span>]] [[User_talk:Jacqui M Schedler|<sup>★</sup>]] 05:33, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
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