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Thanks for the revert to my bots report page, its much appreciated :) [[User:Lloydpick|Lloydpick]] 10:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

*My pleasure. --<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:56, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== subject ==

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Request - Hello Hello Talk,

My contribution: A Rose for Emily - Discussion Questions. I hope this entry will not be removed again because I certainly believe that this link is useful for wikipedia visitors (especially for students who study American literature) and includes original work. I have difficulty understanding how some contributors delete entries without consulting the contributor. The fact that the link gives access to a blog should not mean that it has no place in wikipedia. The blogger is a university instructor. Thanks. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Literature2007|Literature2007]] ([[User talk:Literature2007|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Literature2007|contribs]]) 07:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*Your adding links for a website (alinihatekenblog.wordpress.com) to numerous articles is categorized by Wikipedia as [[WP:LINKSPAM|linkspam]] and has been reverted. Please do not continue adding links to this site. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:36, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Control. You have removed my contributions again. I refuse to contribute to wikipedia again. I think wikipedia is becoming a site of power struggle. You should have examined the content more closely before removing the links. I have explored the questions in my classes and they have worked really well. Anyway, I am not going to waste my time contributing to wikipedia anymore. It can be all yours. Bye. {{unsigned2<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Literature2007|Literature2007]] ([[User talk:Literature2007|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Literature2007|contribs]]) 08:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)|Literature2007}}</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

*I am sorry to hear that you have given up on Wikipedia so easily. However, since you only seem interested in promoting your blog, we will likely manage to suffer the loss without much pain. (I presume it's your blog because the IP address you initially edited from is at Sabanci University, which is where the owner of that blog is employed, according to the blog's "About" page.) —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 12:59, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rollback ==

Hi Hello Control, I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of ''reverting [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]'', and that you will not abuse it by reverting [[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|good-faith]] edits or to [[Wikipedia:Edit war|revert-war]]. For information on rollback, see [[Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback]] and [[Wikipedia:Rollback feature]]. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 22:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

*Hey, wow—thanks! I appreciate the vote of confidence. I'll have to read up on it before trying it out. Best, —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 22:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

**You're welcome! [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 22:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Given the history of [[Rey Casas]] the best way will be to send it to afd -- if the people there agree it is a hoax we can then deal more easily with further re-creation of the article. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 17:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

*Fair enough. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 18:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Re: On what planet... ==

I realize that gender-neutral pronouns may seem awkward, and are not typically found in everyday life for speakers of modern english, however there is legal precedent for their use. In this case, the user complained that references to gender were unnecessarily providing personal information about them. Please see [[Gender-neutral pronoun]]. The way that you edited it is also perfectly acceptable. There are many other edits I made that were for the same reason.... check my edit history if you want to go and prettify those edits as well. <i>[[User:Jerry|JERRY]]</i> ^{[[User Talk:Jerry|talk]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Jerry|contribs]]} 22:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

* I understood your edit but it made for a VERY awkward read, almost impenetrable (certainly for the casual reader). I don't think I "prettified" it, I made it legible (I also caught a "her" that you missed). I didn't mean to be rude with my edit summary, although in retrospect I suppose I was. I apologize for clicking "Save page" a little too quickly. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Young and Restless (hip hop band) ==

My mistake on the link -- allmusic.com kept crashing Firefox, and I grabbed the wrong URL. I've added the correct links on the talk page, including one showing that they charted. I'll remove the hoax tag again (assuming that's okay with you), and add some refs to the article.--[[User:Fabrictramp|Fabrictramp]] ([[User talk:Fabrictramp|talk]]) 19:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*No, that's totally cool. I'm glad to hear that it's actually not a hoax. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== A.M. (band) ==

I removed the notability question because there is a sufficient amount of notable sources to verify the band's existence and legitimacy.--[[User:Destroy1998|Destroy1998]] ([[User talk:Destroy1998|talk]]) 22:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

* That is questionable but I won't revert your edit. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== DiGiTs (band) ==

I removed the notability question because, again, there are enough notable sources. I also changed the capitalization because that is the proper way to spell [[DiGiTs]], which is a proper noun.--[[User:Destroy1998|Destroy1998]] ([[User talk:Destroy1998|talk]]) 22:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

* The Wikipedia [[MOS:CAPS#Mixed or non-capitalization|Manual of Style]] says that "For proper names and trademarks that are given in mixed or non-capitalization by their owners, follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules" i.e. capitalize the first letter and the rest are lower-case. As with A.M., I disagree with you regarding notability but will not revert your edit. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== Jorge Ferreira ==

Good work (in progress...) on [[Jorge Ferreira]]! Besides de notability, credibility and others issues of that sort, I do belive that the article is too long. By the way, and of course you can take my statements as my own bias, this Ferreira is almost completely unknown in Portugal. Oh! And [[User talk:81.65.196.240|81.65.196.240]] has just erased some of your tags. Keep up your good work! Cheers! [[User:The Ogre|The Ogre]] ([[User talk:The Ogre|talk]]) 07:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

*Yeah, I've been in kind of a "holding pattern" over the long weekend, replacing tags as needed. When I get a longer stretch of time where I can edit (possibly later today), I'm going to start slimming it down and getting rid of the year-by-year entries so it's more in keeping with Wikipedia format. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 10:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Love in This Club ==

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Thanks!--[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 23:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

* I'm not questioning whether or not the information is true (I have 20 years in the industry under my belt so I know how things go). The fact remains that without a [[WP:V|verifiable]] reference from a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] to back it up, it shouldn't be added to the article. That you saw the C&D notice makes that part [[WP:OR|original research]]; much of the rest is [speculation (informed speculation but speculation nonetheless). —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

::I would challenge the word "research," as used in this instance. It's not as if I'm telling a story about how I '''think''' things happened, or '''should''' have happened. It is a fact that Jive served C&D letters on this record, due to A) the version of the record that was leaked was an unmastered copy and B) it was well in advance of their plans for this project.

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::Thanks! --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 23:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

::* I'm not saying that you're ''interpreting'' facts here (see [[WP:OR]] for what I meant by "original research"). The bottom line is that you're adding information that has not been published in a reliable source thus can't be proven beyond your claim that ''you'' saw the C&D notice (again, I'm not saying you're making it up, just that you can't prove it; tangentially, you can only say for certain that ''your'' radio station got the C&D notice). This fails [[WP:V]] and although you're not reaching a conclusion it's still based on what you ''know'' not what you can show. Surely something like this will get a mention soon in Billboard or FMQB or some such industry publication at which point it can be added to the article. Thanks for understanding. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{[[User talk:Hello Control|<fontspan colorstyle="Fcolor:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony</span>]]} 00:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

F0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|Hello, Tony]]</font></sup> 00:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Okay, I can live with that and support your decision. I would expect to see that information hit a verifiable source sometime in the near future. If it doesn't, oh well, right? :) --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 00:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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== Hello, CobaltBlueTony™! ==

I feel like answering every time I see your talk link! -&nbsp;<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:Cobaltbluetony|CobaltBlueTony™]]&nbsp;_{[[User_talk:Cobaltbluetony|talk]]}</fontspan> 20:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

* : ) —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 20:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Fat Joe's Mixtape ==

Why did you put it up for deletion even after i posted a reference?[[User:Y5nthon5a|Y5nthon5a]] ([[User talk:Y5nthon5a|talk]]) 21:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

* The reference you added shows that Fat Joe said he was going to make a mixtape; that doesn't make the article notable. [[WP:MUSIC]] says that most mixtapes are not notable—you'll need to find a lot more references than one mention to show notability. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 22:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

== Request for comment ==

Please review [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Loren Chasse]] and comment, if you care to. Thanks! -&nbsp;<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:Cobaltbluetony|CobaltBlueTony™]]&nbsp;_{[[User_talk:Cobaltbluetony|talk]]}</fontspan> 16:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

*If anyone objects, let me know; otherwise my only intention is to hurry up the decision either way. -&nbsp;<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Verdana;">[[User:Cobaltbluetony|CobaltBlueTony™]]&nbsp;_{[[User_talk:Cobaltbluetony|talk]]}</fontspan> 16:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

**I don't expect anyone will complain but it's always a possibility. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:21, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

== Beyond Austin/Beyond Aston; Doopefish/Dopefish ==

Thought you might be interested in [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Beyond_Aston.2FBeyond_Austin.3B_Dopefish.2FDoopefish|this]]. That article needs a speedy. - [[User:Mdsummermsw|Mdsummermsw]] ([[User talk:Mdsummermsw|talk]]) 21:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

* It figures; I had it pegged for a joke of some sort. Boy, he sure showed us, huh? (Or, alternately: Boy, somebody sure showed him, huh?) —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== [[No cover|Good catch]] ==

''';)''' And so fast! You must have it watchlisted. Peace, [[user:delldot|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#990066;">delldot</fontspan>]] <small>[[user talk:delldot|<fontspan colorstyle="color:DarkRed;">talk</fontspan>]]</small> 05:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

* Actually, I spied it on the [[User:AlexNewArtBot/MusicSearchResult|new music article list]], had my CSD for non-notability declined, started to list it for AfD and discovered it had already had one. But whatever works, right? —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:32, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Love In this Club ==

Oh, okay. My bad. Thanks for letting me know. --[[User:FSX-2007|FSX-2007]] ([[User talk:FSX-2007|talk]]) 23:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

* No problem. I think everyone around here learns something new every day; I know ''I'' do. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

== RE: Ace of Base AfD closure ==

I suppose you can if like; however, this is an album from a definitively notable band, and it was decided that there was enough verifiable information to discount [[WP:CRYSTAL]]. [[User:GlassCobra|Glass]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|Cobra]]''' 22:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

* OK, I was thinking more along the lines of "notability is not inherited". —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 22:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

== Removed prod from [[A.WOLF]] ==

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Addendum: There was an AfD for the article in May of 2006 which it passed. -- '''[[User:Atama|<span style="color:#06F">At</span><span style="color:#03B">am</span><span style="color:#006">a</span>]][[User talk:Atama|^{<span style="color:#000">chat</span>}]]''' 20:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

*Thanks for the head's up, embarrassed that I missed that. Back to AfD, then. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== Boss of all Bosses ==

Sorry I didnt know. But I really want the arrictle to stay. [[User:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]] 02:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

* If you can think of a good argument as to why the article meets [[WP:MUSIC]], you should weigh in at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boss of All Bosses|the AfD]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 09:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== PROD removed on [[Go DJ!]] ==

Another editor removed your {{tl|prod}} on [[Go DJ!]]. Do you plan on taking this to AfD? If you do, I'll vote to delete. - [[User:Realkyhick|Realkyhick]] <small>([[User talk:Realkyhick|Talk to me]])</small> 05:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

* Yeah, I've been following through with AfDs on all the future-album prods I've been dropping, except when references are added to show notability, which never actually happens. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 09:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

* Now that I take a look at the improvements, it seems ok for the moment. The references aren't the greatest but aren't unreasonable (and at least they're recent) and a second single just dropped this week. As long as speculation is kept in check, I don't think it's too bad. Of course, if six months from now there's still no scheduled release date, I'll revisit my thinking. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== Re: The Mirror (album) ==

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Future albums are fine as long as it's reliably sourced. But unfortunately people tend to add cruft like rumoured tracks. If you want to start a wikiproject, [[WP:COUNCIL/P]] would be the place to start. There's no guarantee I'll be deeply involved, but I do support removing unsourced albums when I see them. [[User:Spellcast|Spellcast]] ([[User talk:Spellcast|talk]]) 20:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

* Thanks for the pointer. And I agree, correctly sourced articles are fine. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== Unreleased albums ==

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Regarding the page [[:Eating's Not Cheating (2005)]], which you tagged for speedy deletion on the basis of it is a recently-created redirect page resulting from an implausible typo or misnomer, I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This page does not qualify for speedy deletion because it is not recently-created and has a page history for a merged page which must be preserved for GFDL attribution reasons. If you still want the page to be deleted, please use the [[WP:RFD]] process. Thanks! [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) ([[User:Stifle/Vote|trivial vote]]) 21:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

* Doy! I knew that—my bad. Thanks for reminding me; I got a little too "housecleaner-y". —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== double album ==

He said there is over 90 minutes and not much they wanted to cut down, so if that is the case it would have to be a double album '''if''' they chose not to cut a lot down.--[[User:E tac|E tac]] ([[User talk:E tac|talk]]) 19:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

* Which is [[WP:OR|original research]] on your part. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

**It is original research that 90 minutes will not fit on one disc?--[[User:E tac|E tac]] ([[User talk:E tac|talk]]) 23:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

***No. It is original research to say that they might put out a double disc. You're extrapolating from what was actually said. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

****Saying that IF NO MATERIAL IS CUT FROM THE OVER 90 MINUTES that they have it would result in their first double album is hardly original research, but a fact.--[[User:E tac|E tac]] ([[User talk:E tac|talk]]) 00:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

***** First off, settle down; there's no need to get excited. Secondly, you seem to have a difficult time seeing the difference between reporting what was said and drawing a conclusion from what was said. Just let it go—it's fine the way it is. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== WP:MUSIC proposal ==

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You recently undid an edit to [[Nicole Wray]] remiving an AfD template, with the edit summary "—rv AfD tagging with no follow-through" Since the article is currently listed at AfD, and because it is inappropriate to remove an AfD without it being closed, I have rolled back this edit. --<span style="border:1px solid #63B8FF; font-weight:bold; color:#23238E; background-color:#D0E7FF;"> [[User:Roninbk|RoninBK]] _{[[User talk:Roninbk|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Roninbk|C]]} </span> 16:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

* That's weird—the editor who placed the tag never opened an AfD. (20 seconds later) OK, I just checked and I see that the AfD was opened by an editor but the tag was placed on the article by an IP; my mistake. I guess it doesn't matter anyway since the AfD was almost immediately closed as a bad-faith nomination. Still, I'll be more careful next time. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== WTF?!? ==

The top part where the infoBox is, I am COMEPLETELY innocent I don't know how the fuck that happened, everything else is my work, I DO NOT vandelise! [[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#f00;">Ya</span>]][[User talk:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Boi</span>]][[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:Green;">Krakerz</span>]]''

*That's cool, I know I've seen you around so I didn't figure you had done it intentionally but I did want to bring it to your attention. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 22:39, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm mostly known for editing my favorite rap artists articles (Like [[The Game (rapper)|The Game]] and [[Too Short]]), my favorite rock bands (like [[RATM]], [[DragonForce]] and [[Sum 41]]), videogame characters (like [[Mario]] and [[Carl "CJ" Johnson|CJ]]) and my favorite movies like [[300 (film)|300]].

The funny thing is, is that I saw 300 not 2 hours ago... my goal is watch 300 300 times, LOLOLOL!!! [[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#f00;">Ya</span>]][[User talk:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Boi</span>]][[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:Green;">Krakerz</span>]]''

* Right on. I do a mix of editing things I'm interested in and housekeeping-type stuff (it's been mostly housekeeping lately). Good luck with your ''300'' aspirations—it's important to set goals for yourself! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

**I saw 300 two times, just 298 more to go... -_-. [[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#f00;">Ya</span>]][[User talk:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Boi</span>]][[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:Green;">Krakerz</span>]]''

**HA! Saw it two more times, now I got 296 more times!! ^_^ [[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#f00;">Ya</span>]][[User talk:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Boi</span>]][[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:Green;">Krakerz</span>]]''

*** Keep reachin' for those stars. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

*Thanx for your support! [[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#f00;">Ya</span>]][[User talk:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Boi</span>]][[User:Ya Boi Krakerz|<span style="color:Green;">Krakerz</span>]]''

== No, no man...lol ==

You didn't mess up, I revised it then added the ref to it. It wasn't added to the page before. lol.[[User:Y5nthon5a|Y5nthon5a]] ([[User talk:Y5nthon5a|talk]]) 15:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

* Ah. Sneaky. Well, thanks for adding the reference. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 15:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== U Need 2 Stop ==

I would aprreciated if you didn't spread lies about me. I have told you that Make It Hot is certified gold. My new album will coming in spring. Elektric Blue was released only in Japan, and I leaked Lovechild myself. Also I have my InDepenDance Day: Volume Two mixtape following up the release of the album. Nicole Wray <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.199.80.193|75.199.80.193]] ([[User talk:75.199.80.193|talk]]) 02:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* I haven't spread any lies about anyone. The problem is that information on Wikipedia needs to be [[WP:V|verifiable]] and backed up by [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] so, for example, if a gold record doesn't show up in the RIAA certification database, we can't include it in the article. If you ''are'' Nicole, maybe you could talk to your publicist and have him/her give you copies of all the press you've received and you could pass the information along here. Good luck. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 09:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[[User talk:Hello Control]] is sockpuppet of [[User talk:Cloudz679]]. I don't not need proof to back this up, thats the truth. Also, you don't talk to my favorite artist that way because what she said was true. On top of that, you need to check your own damn self because you ain't all you think you are. Now you can hello that Cloudz679. [[Special:Contributions/4.129.66.200|4.129.66.200]] ([[User talk:4.129.66.200|talk]]) 21:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

* And I nominate articles for deletion as Hello Control and then !vote against their deletion as Cloudz679 just to make it appear that I am two different people. Man, I am ''so'' clever! But you're even ''more'' clever because you saw through my ruse. I tip my hat to you, clever person. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:07, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks for your efforts! ==

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Please check your facks before making comments about artists. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.227.85.123|68.227.85.123]] ([[User talk:68.227.85.123|talk]]) 00:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* Which artist's "facks" am I mistaken about? Please enlighten me. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

"Crybaby" by Mariah and Snoop was #1 sales and R&B/hip hop single the week of jan 20, 2001. I got all facts from: (www.billboard.com.. search damizza)

if you add up all the weeks charts including whats on my label i'm over 500 weeks on the charts. closer to 700. And, the Chuck Phillips article is all over the internet. "Airplay raises disclosure issue" was the LA times article by chuck phillips. And pls take that picture off! Do you want a sales breakdown?? -Damizza <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jasonborne|Jasonborne]] ([[User talk:Jasonborne|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jasonborne|contribs]]) 00:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* On Wikipedia, [[component chart]]s like the sales ones are only used if the song doesn't chart on the main chart (see [[WP:CHARTS]] for more info). I'm not the one that put the picture up in the first place. Do you have a better one we can use? Stuff like "over 500 weeks on the charts" is unencylopedic and more like press release-type writing and doesn't belong here. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

** all good thank you for your time. I removed the picture. But it popped back up. how do i put one up? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.227.86.99|68.227.86.99]] ([[User talk:68.227.86.99|talk]]) 02:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*** To upload a picture, go [[Wikipedia:Upload|here]] and follow the instructions. Public ___domain is best but copyrighted pix can be used, it's just more complicated is all. I don't have a lot of experience adding photos but if you have any questions I'll try my best to answer. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Talk:Cassie (singer) ==

If I'm not mistaken, the IP editor was trying to replace a single section while keeping the potential BLP issues blanked. It looks like you've restored all of the content that led to their block yesterday. I could be wrong, I haven't looked all that closely, but you might want to double check your latest reversion. --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]][[Special:Contributions/Onorem|♠]][[User talk:Onorem|Dil]] 16:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

: The version I reverted to was a more recent redaction that I executed yesterday. The original redaction was maybe a little bit overboard, deleteing more than really necessary. I also "signed" unsigned comments that were redacted so anyone who just ''has'' to know what was removed can go find the diff. Really, that talk page is a mess and should be archived or something; so little of the content belongs on an article's talk page. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== Edit war ==

Please resolve this. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cassie_%28singer%29&action=history] -- [[User:Mojska|<span style="color:red;font-family:verdana;">'''MOJSKA'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Mojska|<span style="font-family:verdana;color:black;">'''666'''</span>]] - [[User talk:Mojska|<small>''Leave a message here''</small>]] 18:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

:Do you think I want to be in the middle of this? I didn't even start the reversion thing. The editor is evading a block and violating [[WP:BLP]]. Do you have any suggestions? The IP has had the policy explained to them repeatedly and yet they still claim to not understand. I'm all ears. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 18:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::Ok, but be quietly. An administrator blocked the page, so any IP contributes. -- [[User:Mojska|<span style="color:red;font-family:verdana;">'''MOJSKA'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Mojska|<span style="font-family:verdana;color:black;">'''666'''</span>]] - [[User talk:Mojska|<small>''Leave a message here''</small>]] 18:45, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[Sunday Love]] Deletion ==

Uhh, maybe merging might be a better idea. I've been looking for some good sources to keep it notable, but can't seem to find any. However, I believe the article is important to the artists history, so it would be better to merge it rather than delete it completely.[[User:LoveLaced|LoveLaced]] ([[User talk:LoveLaced|talk]]) 18:54, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

: Any content that is [[WP:V|verifiable]] and from a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] can be added to the [[Fefe Dobson]] article—no permission necessary. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Yo Tony/Control, I have responded to your request on my talkpage. Incidentally, there is plenty of coverage of the topic in reliable sources easily accessible through Google News. (http://news.google.ru/archivesearch?ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&tab=wn&q=%22Sunday+Love%22+fefe). Regards, <font color="404040">[[User talk:Skomorokh|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Garamond"; color=":black;">Skomorokh</fontspan>]]</font> 14:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== Notability ==

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As someone previously involved in a discussion re this issue, I would appreciate your comments at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Release_dates_listed_pre-release]]. - [[User:Mdsummermsw|Mdsummermsw]] ([[User talk:Mdsummermsw|talk]]) 14:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

: Commented. Thanks for the notice. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Randy Albright ==

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(copied from AfD discussion)

Most of his credits seem to be his own material. The only ones that I can see that were singles are "Oh Carolina" by [[Vince Gill]] and "That's Enough of That" by [[Mila Mason]]; the rest seem to have been cut either by Albright himself or by non-notable artists. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten&nbsp;Pound&nbsp;Hammer</span>]] <small>and his otters</small> • ^{([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]]•[[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]])} 16:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

*!voted. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== "Musical scholar" ==

I never said that I considered myself to be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_conscious_hip_hop_artists "musical scholar."] I simply said that I've been in the music industry for seven years, including the last year as a Music Director for a CHR/Rhythmic radio station, and I've never heard the term used. --[[User:InDeBiz1|InDeBiz1]] ([[User talk:InDeBiz1|talk]]) 20:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

* If you were unsure of the term, you should have done some research first, or dropped a note at [[WP:MN]]. "Conscious hip hop" is a term that has been in use for well over a decade. Wikipedia ''is'' loaded to the gills with made-up genres and sub-sub-genres but just because you hadn't come across the term in your limited ''mainstream'' experience does not mean it's not notable. There's a great big world of music out there and if you judge it all from the perspective of a pitifully narrow-minded and short-sighted mainstream radio station (that's not a crack at your station—it's a crack at ''all'' mainstream stations) then you're doing Wikipedia a disservice. Sorry if this diatribe come across as harsh but I'm very passionate about music—it's my life—and you struck a nerve. Peace —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 10:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

== Hi-Fly ==

This about the Hi-Fly article. How is not the SoundClick page a reliable source to put JD Era on his production credits when you can go there and listen to the track and even hear JD Era mentioning his name multiple times? Also why would you take off his website's discography as a reference now when after many of your earlier edits you left it there? Why have you put "citation needed" on couple specific artists and not after the sentence or the paragraph? Seems very inconsistent. I admit that I'm new to Wikipedia. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jingi|Jingi]] ([[User talk:Jingi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jingi|contribs]]) 17:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* Both SoundClick and the Hi-Fly website are primary sources (i.e. the subject of the article controls what is there) so it's not a very [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. For example, you could put on there that you produced a number one single for Michael Jackson but that wouldn't make it true. Similarly, the SoundClick song link is unreliable. If it appeared on the artist's own website (JD Era, not Hi-Fly), that would be reliable (because it's the artist's own website saying "this is my song"). Primary sources are ok for some things (biographical info, etc.) but other types of info should be confirmed with other sources. The citation requests are on the artists' names because there is partial sourcing (some artists have references, others don't). —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

** Ok, thanks. That helps! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jingi|Jingi]] ([[User talk:Jingi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jingi|contribs]]) 18:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Cool man, glad I stepped up to the plate when I did! I saw the proposal thingie a while back, but I didn't notice the actual page until today. I was kind of wondering what the hold up was... Anyways, hopefully we can get this bad boy off the ground soon. Still alot of technical behind-the scenes type stuff to work on, but feel free to start tagging discogs with {{tl|WikiProject Discographies}}, and inviting people to join (no fancy template for that). This should be a good little project, me thinks. [[User:Drewcifer3000|Drewcifer]] ([[User talk:Drewcifer3000|talk]]) 11:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

* This is actually perfect timing—I've been paring down my watchlist over the last week or so and once a few more things get settled, I'll have plenty of time to devote here. I'm moving soon so I'm not allowed to spend much time on WP this weekend, however. This will be the first WikiProject I've really participated in so feel free to drop suggestions. Thanks again for picking up the ball and really running with it. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[Frankee discography]] ==

Hello, I just want to notify you that there is no need for speedy deletion of the page [[Frankee discography]]. [[WP:AFD|AFD]] would be more suitable. [[User:Surfer-boy94|Surfer-boy94]] ([[User talk:Surfer-boy94|talk]]) 09:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

* Spoke to this comment (left in an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frankee_discography&diff=208072504&oldid=208068979 edit summary] prior to this message) on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Surfer-boy94&diff=prev&oldid=208072683 user's talk page]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 09:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

** Well you know what I mean it should be discussed during AFD. [[User:Surfer-boy94|Surfer-boy94]] ([[User talk:Surfer-boy94|talk]]) 09:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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Why dont you just leave my articles alone. They are perfectly fine, have sources and they are real singles. Just because they are not well known does not change anything. [[User:Surfer-boy94|Surfer-boy94]] ([[User talk:Surfer-boy94|talk]]) 09:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

* Please refer to [[WP:OWN]]. You have a ''lot'' to learn if you want to ever become an admin. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 09:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Exclusive474 ==

I've interacted with both Exclusive474 and Surfer-boy94. I agree that they seem to have similar interests, but I truly doubt they are socks. What specifically makes you think that they are the same person?[[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 01:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

* The first three suspected sock accounts (Piece-of-Me-08, Insomniatic_999, and Motion-In-The-Ocean) were all created the same day within an 18-minute period ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Piece-of-Me-08 06:06, 22 January 2008], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Insomniatic_999 06:15, 22 January 2008], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Motion-In-The-Ocean 06:24, 22 January 2008]) and all made their first non-userspace edits !voting in the same AfD—for an article created by Surfer-boy94 ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vanessa_Hudgens_Second_Studio_Album&diff=prev&oldid=186058886 06:11, 22 January 2008], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vanessa_Hudgens_Second_Studio_Album&diff=prev&oldid=186059575 06:17, 22 January 2008], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vanessa_Hudgens_Second_Studio_Album&diff=prev&oldid=186060594 06:26, 22 January 2008], ). Exclusive474 was created the following day ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Exclusive_474 00:38, 23 January 2008]), and while it did not head directly to the AfD, it made 7 clearly experienced edits (one edit summary indicating that the editor is in Australia [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Outta_My_Head_%28Ay_Ya_Ya%29&diff=prev&oldid=186243027]) before !voting at the AfD [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vanessa_Hudgens_Second_Studio_Album&diff=prev&oldid=186265070 02:51, 23 January 2008]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 11:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== Wrongly Accused ==

Hello i just want to comment on the recent accusations of sockpuppetry. They are wrong and I admit that there is alot of evidence linking our accounts together, but Exclusive_474 is my brothers account who uses it sometimes, however he is not very experienced with wikipedia. As for Piece-of-Me-08 he is my best mate who is also inexperienced to wikipedia, but he wants to get better, and as for Insomniatic_999 I honestly do not have a clue who that is. The other account Motion-In-The-Ocean is my cousin, who uses it whenever he is at my house. I hope you have the strength to believe me. Thanks, [[User:Surfer-boy94|Surfer-boy94]] ([[User talk:Surfer-boy94|talk]]) 07:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

* See [[WP:SOCK#Meatpuppets]] and the section that follows, "Roommates and sharing an IP address". —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 11:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== Hello ==

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While I appreciate your efforts to improve the article [[University of Dayton Ghetto]], you seem to have overlooked the fact that the list of special interest houses you removed was both sourced and highly wikilinked. However, there is a discussion concerning its removal on the talk page. You are more than welcome to discuss the removal of the section with the other editors on the page, but please do not make large changes to a stable article without prior discussion. In the meantime, I have reverted your removal of the section. Thank you. [[User:Newsboy85|Newsboy85]] ([[User talk:Newsboy85|talk]]) 19:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

* The "discussion" appeared to consist of one person objecting to the list of houses being restricted to frats and sororities, and you, the apparent "[[WP:OWN|owner]]" of the article, saying you had been considering removing the list. Your comment—the last on the subject—was made at the end of February; I'd say the discussion is cold and dead at this point. Since no one had argued in favor of keeping the list, I removed it. And, despite your claims to the contrary, the list is not referenced (a few external links notwithstanding). I reiterate what I said in my edit summary—the list is unencyclopedic, unsourced, and crufty. There is nothing that indicates that those houses are notable in the least. It's really more of a directory of the houses of organizations in the area. That the organizations are wikilinked is irrelevant. I strongly urge you to undo your reversion of my edit. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

:: As you pointed out, I do agree with you that the list should probably not be there. I will also admit that I was surprised to see another active editor that was not vandalism, as I have been the only editor working on the article for quite a while, though it was started well before I was even a wikipedian. However, there is a source for the entire section - reference 20 points to a University of Dayton Web site with this list of special interest houses. In any case, give me a while, and I'll get the article updated again and get rid of the list once and for all. (If you check the history, you'll notice the list was quite a bit more ... erm ... informal than it is now, so this shortened version was the compromise from last year.) [[User:Newsboy85|Newsboy85]] ([[User talk:Newsboy85|talk]]) 20:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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If [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Evear78 this] is him, he's being smart enough to stay away from long talk-page posts. What do you think? [[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 01:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

* You may be right (who am I kidding, of course it's SocMe). Let's see what [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Soccermeko|checkuser]] has to say. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

** [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Soccermeko&diff=210364913&oldid=210364405 Confirmed] —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[106 & Park]] ==

may i add new joints and new entries category i had it before since August 07. But [[User:Ericorbit|this guy]] keeps deleting it. ---[[User talk:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]] 20:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

* That content does not belong on Wikipedia. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

** Could I make an article for it with sources? ---[[User talk:Piazzajordan2|Piazzajordan2]] 17:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

*** No. This was already clearly addressed in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Joints & New Entries from 106 & Park]]. Whether or not you can find a reliable source, the information does not meet Wikipedia standards for notability. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 12:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nicole_Wray_discography&curid=8632225&diff=223600178&oldid=223527499 Your revert] ==

Think it's Soccermeko '''''again?''''' Only two edits, so I didn't jump to judgement, but your edit summary sounds like you have a strong opinion on the topic.<br>[[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 20:44, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

* Who else cares about Nicole and her unreleased albums? —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 20:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

::I think there have been two or three other edits in the last three years ... her fans do seem pretty scarce on the ground.<br>[[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 20:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Your opinion on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nicole_Wray_discography#Singles this conversation] is welcome. I'm in AGF mode, myself.<br>[[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 20:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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I have a couple of articles in this series going through the deletion process, so please do ''not'' go to the AfDs and !vote, I do not intend to canvass. However, I was wondering if you might take a look at a few of the articles and editors to provide a second opinion on this. We have several editors/IPs (mostly SPAs) creating detailed articles for the series with track lists, release dates, etc. with no sources whatsoever. They ignore requests for sources, say little or nothing in AfDs and remove AfD templates without comment (prods as well). When other editors search for info, they find nothing at all or a single line on Amazon. While I've seen numerous passionate fans of various artists and genres (Soccermeko, metal fans, etc.), this seems categorically different. Any thoughts? A few to look at: [[Princess DisneyMania]], [[DisneyMania 7]], [[Special:Contributions/Di_Ramos]], [[Special:Contributions/Garycwright]], [[Special:Contributions/200.251.232.200]]. - [[User:Mdsummermsw|Mdsummermsw]] ([[User talk:Mdsummermsw|talk]]) 12:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

* Sorry, I barely check in on Wikipedia any more, and it looks like I'm a little too late to weigh in on this. Hope it turned out satisfactorily. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/Collaboration]] ==

As a member of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies|WikiProject Discographies]], I thought you might be interested to participate in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/Collaboration|collaboration]]. [[User:Hpfan9374|Hpfan9374]] ([[User talk:Hpfan9374|talk]]) 12:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

* Looks interesting. Thanks for the heads up. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Closed AfD ==

In [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Third Studio Album (2nd nomination)|this AfD]], you overlooked the 2nd article that was attached. (The link box on the side makes it sort of blend in.) —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 15:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the catch. In future, those can be deleted by tagging them as {{tl|db-afd}}. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 15:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

:* I didn't want to presume that you had decided ''both'' articles should be deleted. Thanks. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Fefe ==

Ouch. I'll hang back a bit and see if someone else leaps into the fray. I've really got my hands full trying to keep the mouseketeers in line. Never thought I would see the day when a Vanessa Hudgens article hit the top of my edit count, and I grow more and more convinced that I'm lucky to have never heard her sing.[[User:Kww|Kww]] ([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 14:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

* Yeah, it's amazing how one can get sucked into editing articles that one has little or no interest in. I had to cut waaay back on my WP time because it was getting out of hand. Keep up the good work! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Invoking the Unclean]] et al. ==

If these do get deleted, can you please make sure that the album covers get deleted too? I just hate to see images get orphaned. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • ^{([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])} 04:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

* Yeah, I do usually keep an eye on those. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 11:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

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*Oh, I see what I did, I hit undo on the person who deleted the deletion template, and it also undid what you had deleted already. [[User:CRocka05|CRocka05]] ([[User talk:CRocka05|talk]]) 01:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

** I think you undid the edit below the one you meant to. It could happen to anyone. Peace —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks... ==

[[Image:Smiley.svg|30px]] Hi Tony. Thanks for your comments at the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/YahZarah|YahZarah AfD]]. Cheers! [[User:Paul Erik|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Comic sans MS;">[[User:Paul Erik|Paul Erik]]</fontspan>]] <small>^{<font color="Blue">[[User_talk:Paul Erik|<span style="color:blue;">(talk)]]</font><font color="Green"span>]][[Special:Contributions/Paul Erik|<span style="color:green;">(contribs)]]</fontspan>]]}</small> 04:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

* When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Nice job digging up the facts. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Re: NPA Much? ==

I didn't pat myself on the back, and I didn't call you any names - you're imagining things. Given that the subject of the article [[Wordsworth (rapper)]] has released several albums, the articles for which link to several reviews, is/was a member of notable rap groups, and that sources were readily found, I feel my edit summary was accurate and and assumed as much good faith as is reasonable. Inappropriate speedy/prod tagging damages this encyclopedia. Your pointer to [[WP:DICK]] is far closer to a personal attack than anything I did, and is, frankly, offensive. Maybe you should have a word with yourself, and concentrate on making positive contributions to this project.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 13:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

* I'm still not convinced that he's notable but your improvements are enough for me to not bother listing it at AFD. His "notable" rap group is only borderline notable because it has two notable members (one of which is Wordsworth himself). Your edit summary was more dickish than necessary (that is to say, it shouldn't have been dickish at all) and if I hurt your feelings pointing that out, I'm sorry. You go your way and I'll go mine. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

**You're doing yourself no favours calling me a dick again. Maybe you should have a read of [[WP:DICK]] yourself, and stop being so childish.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 13:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

*** I was commenting on your edit summary, which ''was'' dickish. You, personally, are an upstanding member of society and kind to small animals and senior citizens, I'm sure. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== Yolanda Johnson article ==

Excuss me, I am new to this but I know that the page needs time to progress. It has only been up two days, there for I have taken down the deletion banner. I am still trying to gather sources for the page. Please edit the page if you know more information, but you need to hang on before considering it's deletion. [[Special:Contributions/70.208.14.31|70.208.14.31]] ([[User talk:70.208.14.31|talk]]) 01:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* Actually, the article had plenty of time before it was deleted ''by [[WP:CON|consensus]]''. There was considerable discussion in its [[WP:AFD|AFD]]. Unless there is some new reason why she now meets Wikipedia's notability standards, there is no need to hang on. Additionally, removing the deletion tag is considered [[WP:VAND|vandalism]] and could result in your being [[WP:BLOCK|blocked]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::I do not believe that removing the tag was considered vandalism. Also, if you see something wrong, you need to help fix it. Wanting an article's deletion without making necessary edits is considered bad faith 'I believe'. [[User:Readyseason|Readyseason]] ([[User talk:Readyseason|talk]]) 01:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::*You are mistaken—removing a CSD tag from an article you created is considered disruptive, which is pretty much equivalent to vandalism. Also, I ''do'' fix wrong things I see. In this case, however, the article cannot be "fixed" because it does not belong here. There are no "necessary edits" that would save it so there is no bad faith on my part. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

:::Okay, please delete if it's for the best. [[User:Readyseason|Readyseason]] ([[User talk:Readyseason|talk]]) 01:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

:::*That is up to an admin to decide. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Breathing (Yolanda Johnson album) ==

The confirmed tracks are real songs. Meta Music had it on there site before they took it down for repair and updates. Also if your looking to remove unsourced fake songs, try Beyonce's forthcoming album page. Because I used that page as an example of how to create "Breathing". [[User:Readyseason|Readyseason]] ([[User talk:Readyseason|talk]]) 01:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* If the information is not [[WP:V|verifiable]], then it can't be included in the article. If the record label replaced the info on their website, then it can be replaced in the article. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::But there are other sites that interview Yolanda, and they confirmed that the album is coming in October 2008. [[User:Readyseason|Readyseason]] ([[User talk:Readyseason|talk]]) 01:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::* We're talking about the song titles here. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== I smell socks, but I'm not sure ==

{{userlinks|Readyseason}}. Kiki Shearer? Yolanda Johnson? Smells like Soccermeko to me, but we've got his IPs blocked up pretty tightly. Opinion?&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* You have far more experience with him than I do. I'd bet that if we keep a close eye—if it is Soccermeko—his foot will slip sooner rather than later. I don't have time tonight but I'll do some digging tomorrow. And best of luck with, well, anything you might could use a little extra luck with. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::I believe the name is Kierra Kiki Sheard. I have edited her article but it required some updating. Also, I am trying to be more helpful in creating more pages. (Here are the list of upcoming pages "Lina (singer)", "Yolanda Johnson", "Breathing", and more). Now you are welcome to help because I would like anyone who knows the rules to help. [[User:Readyseason|Readyseason]] ([[User talk:Readyseason|talk]]) 01:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::You got busier faster than I thought. Can any of your browsers penetrate www.yolandadiary.com, which these articles use as a source? Mine just tell me my browser's older than IE5: it's Firefox 3 and IE6 (in a pinch), so I know that isn't true.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 01:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::* Yeah, I ''was'' going to bed but couldn't resist a peek and then things sorta snowballed. Safari doesn't work (same error as you), but with Firefox and the NoScript extension, I can get in if I only selectively allow scripts. I hope she didn't pay much for that basically inaccessible website. All I can find are three video clips (haven't watched 'em). Also discovered that her label's website URL expired about a week ago. I'm going to bed; wonder what develops overnight. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

:::*Spellcast decided, and issued an indef block.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 13:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

::::*Makes sense. What about the IP (70.208.14.31) that Readyseason was editing from? Only a couple of edits so I guess we'll just have to watch it. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

:::::I checked that last night: it's a Verizon Wireless account, so he's going to be hell to track on an IP basis now.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 14:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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I think that a collaboration with [[Pharrell]], [[Trey Songz]], and [[Junior Reid]] makes this album notable. Therefore, I do not think that it should be deleted.--[[User:Signshare|Signshare]] ([[User talk:Signshare|talk]]) 21:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* Certainly once the album is released, or gets substantial coverage in the real media, it will be notable. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Other discographies are worse than that one, so you need to do something that only criticize mine, go check out [[Lloyd Banks]]' [[Fabolous]]' and many many more.--[[User:Signshare|Signshare]] ([[User talk:Signshare|talk]]) 21:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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Please add to the discussion about the ''American Idol'' performance chart on Nikki McKibbin's article that I started at [[Talk:Nikki McKibbin#American Idol performance chart]]. [[User:Aspects|Aspects]] ([[User talk:Aspects|talk]]) 02:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

* Commented. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== ''[[Candide#Optimism|All is for the best, in this, the best of all possible worlds]]'' ==

One of the advantages of not having many supporters at your RFA is that there are fewer people to thank at the end. Thanks for your support and your willingness to look at my complete record. I'm going to try to interpret this resounding defeat as a statement that I should choose my words more carefully in the future, and remember that every statement I make gets recorded forever, just waiting to get carefully transcribed onto my next RFA. I would go insane if I believed that it was repudiation of what I truly meant: that no editor should consciously and willfully ignore guidelines and policies, and editors that repeatedly do so should not be rewarded for or supported in doing so.

I'm sure I'll get back to full speed editing soon, because, after all, , [[Émile Coué| every day, and in every way, I am getting better and better]].&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 05:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

* Your RFA did not pass but [[Magic 8-Ball|outlook is good]] for your chances of passing next time. I would go off on a rant about axe-grinders and the pettiness of those who focused on one questionable comment (which I ''fully'' agree with) instead of taking the time to check out the entirety of your ''oeuvre'' and ''modus operandi'', but that wouldn't serve [[Hot Fuzz|"the greater good"]]. Whatevs; you know you deserve it and you ''will'' get the tools next year. Chin up and all that sorta stuff. All the best. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[Chaundon]] ==

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Happy Editing! &mdash; '''{{#if:72.75.82.202|{{User|72.75.82.202}}|[[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]])}}''' _{20:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)}

* I had tagged the article with <nowiki>{{notability}}</nowiki> before someone else prodded it, so I'll give it another couple of weeks before acting. I don't expect to see it improved to meet [[WP:MUSIC]], but I'd be happy if it were. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 20:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

::{{Done}} … article has been rescued by Some Other Editors. :-) &mdash; [[Special:Contributions/72.75.82.202|72.75.82.202]] ([[User talk:72.75.82.202|talk]]) 21:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_October_14&diff=next&oldid=245234011 This edit] placed your AfD on the list, but also removed mine. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] ^{[[User talk:Kafziel|Complaint Department]]} 12:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

* Gosh, that's incredibly bizarre; I don't know how it happened. Sorry about that. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 13:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== D.O.E. Notability ==

This is in response to the notability notice on my article for [[D.O.E.]]. I am confused about the need for notability. This is a legitimate artist signed to a major record label [[Mosley Music Group]] who has been featured on the billboard charts. In addition, my sources are all relevant and do not include any MySpace or imeem references. Please advise. Thanks.[[User:Bmedick|Bmedick]] ([[User talk:Bmedick|talk]]) 21:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

* The only thing that comes close to meeting [[WP:MUSIC]] is that he appeared on '''someone else's''' (barely) charting single. Since that does not meet the letter of the law, I tagged it for notability so others could weigh in. Note that being signed to a major label is not enough, the artist must have released two albums on a major (or one of the big indies). The references are fine, that's why I didn't tag it for that. The notability tag is no big deal, just leave it there for a couple of months and if no one else is worried about it, I won't be either. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

**Sounds good to me. Thanks! -[[User:Bmedick|Bmedick]] ([[User talk:Bmedick|talk]]) 01:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[You Win Some, You Lose Some]] ==

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Hey, i'm correcting the aticle, as you don't do this, so shut up. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thobbyas|Thobbyas]] ([[User talk:Thobbyas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thobbyas|contribs]]) 18:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* You're not "correcting" it; you're 1) removing a current [[WP:AFD|Articles for deletion]] tag and 2) adding a [[WP:CV|copyright violating]] external link. I notice that you added copyvio YouTube links to a number of articles—all videos uploaded by the same user. I have corrected this by reverting all of your [[WP:SPAM|spam]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== Excuse me ==

Why are you being bothersome? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:YesYesY'allBanger|YesYesY'allBanger]] ([[User talk:YesYesY'allBanger|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/YesYesY'allBanger|contribs]]) 21:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

Why are you being bothersome? {{unsigned2|21:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)|YesYesY'allBanger}}

* If you have an issue with my valid edits, please discuss it on the [[Talk:Halfway House (album)|talk page of the article]] in question, rather than simply reverting my edits. I would also direct you to read [[WP:OWN]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

** No problem.[[User:YesYesY&#39;allBanger|YesYesY&#39;allBanger]] ([[User talk:YesYesY&#39;allBanger|talk]]) 21:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

*** Ok, let's talk about this on the [[Talk:Halfway House (album)|talk page]].

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Just thought you might find this new shortcut useful.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 21:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

* Incredibly useful. I was just trying to remember today which ones were the bad ones. Thanks so much! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 23:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Gabriel Mann ==

Hi there. First of all, I want to thank you for actually taking the time to look up information on Gabriel Mann instead of just steamrolling through Wikipedia policy, as others did. I checked back on the article today to find that it had been deleted. I was under the impression that votes for deletion would actually be tallied, and if so then the votes were still dead even. Should the article have been deleted, or is this good enough to call vandalism? [[Special:Contributions/129.7.77.42|129.7.77.42]] ([[User talk:129.7.77.42|talk]]) 11:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

The above was ofcourse, written by me. [[User:Voxbaryton|Voxbaryton]] ([[User talk:Voxbaryton|talk]]) 11:03, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

* AFD is not a vote; it's a discussion with the goal of reaching a consensus. The admin who closed the discussion felt that there were not enough compelling arguments to keep the article and I would have to agree. With the addition of more media coverage, I think the article could have been saved (it still needed a ''major'' rewrite, however). An article or profile in an LA newspaper or music mag would have been a good start but there was nothing even close. If you feel like making the effort of tracking down better coverage and fixing the article, you can always ask the closing admin to recreate the article in your userspace ([[User:Voxbaryton/Gabriel Mann (musician)]], for example) where you can work to improve it. When you think it's ready to be moved back into articlespace, consult with others—the closing admin, for starters—and see if they think the article would pass notability standards. Let me know if you need any help. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 18:33, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

** Interesting, I didn't know that you could create articles in "userspace" as it were. I may do this! Thank you for the direction. [[User:Voxbaryton|Voxbaryton]] ([[User talk:Voxbaryton|talk]]) 21:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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== FUCK YOU ==

I'm not doing anything about AD, is just a link to the video, OKAY? As the same in the floor of the page, there is a ad link, not on my link. Idiot. {{unsigned2<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thobbyas|Thobbyas]] ([[User talk:Thobbyas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thobbyas|contribs]]) 18:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)|Thobbyas}}</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

* Nice manners. You will be sorry, perhaps, to learn that it is you who are the idiot. You are adding external links to multiple articles, links that are all videos uploaded by the same YouTube user. That is spam, whether or not you are that user and whether or not you make money from the links. There is a bigger issue, however. The videos you are linking to are [[WP:CV|copyright violations]]. So I guess I owe you an apology—I should have left a {{tl|uw-copyright-link}} notice on your talk page along with {{tl|uw-spam}}. But since you left me a nasty note, I am withholding my apology—so eat it. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

**Those links are on the World Premiere channel @YouTube, so, if you see the clause who is located at the main page of the channel, see that is the Official Channel brought by UMG, Music World & SME to LA & Europe Countries. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thobbyas|Thobbyas]] ([[User talk:Thobbyas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thobbyas|contribs]]) 20:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*** "if you see the clause who is located at the main page" — I don't even know what this means; can you say it in English, please? I'm sorry but I'm not multilingual. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 20:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

****Hello Control, if editors [[WP:ATTACK|attack]] you in the future, be sure to report them promptly to [[WP:AIV]], before their behaviour escalates into [[WP:HARASS|harassment]] --'''[[user:Flewis|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#E49B0F">Flewis</span>]]^{[[User talk:Flewis|<span style="font-family:Rockwell;color:#FE2712">(talk)</span>]]}''' 08:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Marcus Cooper album ==

I have verified the title of the album and that it will be released. [[User:Schuym1|<span style="color:#0000f1">Schuy</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">m</span><span style="color:#FFBF00">1</span>]] <small>]]([[User talk:Schuym1|<fontspan style="color:green;">talk</fontspan>]])</small> 23:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

* Please see my response at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Introduction of Marcus Cooper|the AfD]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:28, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

== Have some Respect ==

I do not understand why you continue to remove Cpl Angelo Vaccaro from the noticeable recipients on the Silver Star page. He is the first, and only so far, soldier to receive two Silver Stars in the Global War on Terror. This is definitely an achievement worthy of being listed in a wikipedia article. Beyond that, he was a great friend a great Man. If you do not like the format in which it was entered, edit it, but DO NOT delete Him from the page again. [[User:Xaulzan|Xaulzan]] ([[User talk:Xaulzan|talk]]) 04:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

* [[WP:NOTMEMORIAL|Wikipedia is not a memorial]]. It's not me who is disrespecting your friend, it is you who is disrespecting Wikipedia's guidelines. If you want to add him to the Silver Star article, first write an article about him that passes the rules for [[WP:BIO|notability]]. If that article stays, then he should '''absolutely''' be included in [[Silver Star]]. Peace —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 12:40, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

** The fact is Im not disrespecting any guidelines, If being the only person to receive two silver stars in the war that we are CURRENTLY fighting is not notable than no one else is worthy of being on the page either. So who are you to decide? Following the rules of wikipedia we should have others decide wether or not he stays and it should be decided in the talk page of the article. Not up to you. {{unsigned2<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xaulzan|Xaulzan]] ([[User talk:Xaulzan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xaulzan|contribs]]) 05:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)|Xaulzan}}</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

*** I am sorry that you do not and cannot understand how Wikipedia works. I have neither the time nor the inclination to help you out. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 10:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Record labels. ==

I understand, and thank you for pointing it out. But I did not see that as a policy mentioned anywhere on [[WP:ALBUMS]]. I was also going by, as I said in my edit summary, what we've always done regarding "[[Aftermath Entertainment|Aftermath]]"/"[[G-Unit Records|G-Unit]]"/"[[Interscope Records|Interscope]]"/"[[Shady Records|Shady]]". As I said, this is just me, going by other editors. --'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]''' 00:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

* I don't know if it's in [[WP:ALBUMS]], though it probably should be. That part of my edit summary was in reference to bolding the album title in the chronology part of the infobox. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, my apologizes then. --'''[[User:JpGrB|H]][[User talk:JpGrB|E]][[User:JpGrB/My Userboxes|L]][[User:JpGrB/Articles I Created|L]]'''Ø Ŧ'''[[User:JpGrB/Wikiproject Wishlist|H]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox/Archive 1|E]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox|R]][[User:JpGrB/Sandbox 2|E]]''' 00:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

** No sweat—just trying to spread the knowledge. Peace! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== You can't just leave things alone ==

Yeah, I went ahead and added the source for the image, dip slice.[[User:LoveLaced|LoveLaced]] ([[User talk:LoveLaced|talk]]) 18:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

* "Dip slice"? I don't even know what the hell that means. But thanks for taking care of business. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 18:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

**Well it's funny that you criticize others for not looking up sources, yet your first instinct is just "DELETE EVERYTHING!!" instead of looking for one to add to complete to article.[[User:LoveLaced|LoveLaced]] ([[User talk:LoveLaced|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

*** I marked it as missing a source and notified the uploader (in this instance, you). How do I know where the uploader got it from? —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

****Would it kill you to look it up and complete the page instead of having everything deleted? That would seem to be the more appropriate thing. And it wouldn't come across as spiteful. I see now that you're going through my editing history, looking for more incorrect things to have deleted. Can't let go of the fact that you couldn't get [[Sunday Love]] deleted or what? -[[User:LoveLaced|LoveLaced]] ([[User talk:LoveLaced|talk]]) 23:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

***** Again, I ask you—exactly how am I supposed to know where you got the image from? If I was trying to be spiteful, I wouldn't have bothered to notify you on your talk page that the image had been tagged, nor tagged the caption in the article. Please try to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. I have most assuredly ''not'' looked through your editing history—I have far better things to do. If you check ''my'' edit history, you'll find that edits even remotely connected to you are a tiny percentage of my edits. So you see, this persecution complex of yours is quite unfounded. Do you think that every time someone takes issue with your image tagging that they have some ulterior motive? If so, judging by comments left on your talk page, there are quite a few people who have axes to grind with you. Also, as I've stated before—yes, I nominated Sunday Love for deletion but the sources found by other editors (that you couldn't be bothered to find) clearly show the album meets [[WP:MUSIC#Album|notability for albums]]. Remember that not everyone takes things as personally as you do. Also, you might want to brush up on [[WP:OWN]]: "If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly..., do not submit it" and "If you do not want your ideas... challenged or developed by others, then do not submit them." —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 14:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

****** Nice. Real nice. "how am I supposed to know where you got the image from?" Are you implying that it's too much trouble to google the image, or even go to amazon.com where it would faster, replace the image and put down the source? You would rather have it deleted than try to contribute to completing the information and make Wikipedia better, not less informative. How can I assume "good faith" when you do that and then go through all of my edits and have all the ones deleted that lack a source? And I have no bones to pick with anyone else because they aren't delete happy. I made mistakes when I first joined the site and that's my fault for not reading all of the regulations regarding non-free content and sourcing, which were corrected for the most part. But it was not by the same person going through everything I've done. If I went through all of the articles for deletion you've been a part of and voted to keep them, that would seem personal, wouldn't it? I also love how you keep stating I couldn't bother to find notable sources for the Sunday Love page when except for a couple of sources that were added citing people that worked on production, I found and put every other source on that page. However, I can see by the comments on your page, a lot of people have problems with your edits/deletions, much more than me alone. -[[User:LoveLaced|LoveLaced]] ([[User talk:LoveLaced|talk]]) 23:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

******* Let me get this straight—you're mad because I didn't do the work that you should have done, right? Also, as I said before, I have ''not'' gone through your edits to find images you uploaded. The Eve's Plum one I came upon after clicking though from somewhere else into their article. I had no idea you had uploaded it until I went to leave the uploader notice. If anything, YOU should be going through your own edits and ''fixing'' any images that need it. But I guess you just expect other people to do that for you. Don't worry too much about any negative comments that have been left here—there's always at least one unhappy editor when something gets deleted. I don't think anyone else has ever felt persecuted by me, though, so I guess that makes you special. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== [[Red Cafe]] ==

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In the case of [[Red Cafe]], the artist has a substantial biography at Allmusic, as well as a discography listing 2 albums, with a lot of hits from both Google and Google news searches. Please ensure that your "good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist" includes searching Allmusic and Google in the future, so that articles that can be improved to demonstrate notability are not unnecessarily subject to deletion discussions. Thanks.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 09:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

* Inclusion at Allmusic does not impart notability. None of his actual albums have been released (I tried like the dickens but can find nothing to indicate that Toshiba actually released ''I Got a Story to Tell''). I'm sorry if it bothers you that your interpretation of the guidelines, etc. differs from mine but that is the nature of WIkipedia. I guess you haven't noticed the articles that I've added references to, showing notability. That's OK. But please don't mischaracterize my nomination—I said nothing about sourcing concerns. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::Inclusion at Allmusic alone would not impart notability, but a substantial biography at Allmusic plus any other significant coverage in a reliable source would constitute notability, which is why I would recommend checking allmusic when there is a concern over notability, since the primary consideration for notability is significant coverage in reliable sources. I saw the Toshiba album for sale in an online shop (although I can't find it now), and the ''Co-op'' album has certainly been released and reviewed (almost all of the tracks are by DJ Envy and Red Cafe, one of which was issued as a single, so I think this qualifies as an album rather than the usual (various artists with a bit of rapping over the top) mixtapes). Irrespective of album releases, he clearly passes [[WP:MUSIC]] on coverage.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 21:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::* The Toshiba album is listed on Amazon.co.jp but with only minimal information, which usually indicates the album was solicited by the label but not released (for an example, see One Chance's album ''Private'' on Amazon.com). I couldn't find it listed anywhere that was actually selling it. ''Co-op'' was called a mixtape at most of the places I looked at, including the Allmusic review. I hadn't questioned whether that album had been released—it obviously has. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Concept album ==

Hello. I haven't had much time today but I've had a quick look at the [[Concept album]] and I agree it's a mess of [[WP:OR]] at the moment. I'm guessing that most of the refs are just articles about particular albums where they are described as 'concept albums', although I haven't had time to check them out. I'll take a closer look over the next couple of days.--[[User:Michig|Michig]] ([[User talk:Michig|talk]]) 22:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

* That's cool—no rush. That was my appraisal of the refs as well. I hate to think it needs an almost total rewrite; just gathering good sources will be daunting. Thanks for taking the time to have a look. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It looks like a scrap job to me, too. A ton of OR tied together by reviews that called individual works "concept albums". I'll keep this one in my. If you look at my contribs over the last few days, you'll be able to figure out my recent task: 170 references to the UWC website down, another 340 to go. Then I'll be able to get started on the ones without references.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 20:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

* Ick. I've recently been deleting UWC and BULs that I've come across in my travels but not hunting them down; bless you. I haven't been watching to see if they're being re-added though—gotta cut back on my Wiki-overtime. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

== Chad B AFD ==

Can you back up the claim it's a gossip blog reprinting a press release? - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 00:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

* Responded at the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chad B|AfD]]. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== United World Chart ==

Had to brag a bit somewhere. It will take a few days for the servers' search indices to catch up, but, for at least for a few minutes, the entire article space is free of the strings "United World Chart", and no article contains "UWC" and "chart". Don't think it will last for long.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

* Somebody buy that man a drink! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: userspace ==

well, I just don't feel completely comfortable deleting stuff like that. But I will do it because you are most likely right. Sorry for the trouble. [[User:Thingg|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#3300ff;">Thingg</span>]][[User talk:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font colorstyle="color:#33ff00;">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</fontsup><]][[Special:Contributions/sup>Thingg|^{<font colorstyle="color:#ff0033;">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font>}]] 00:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

* No, that's cool. If you do it, that's great; if not, that's fine, too. You're the one with tools, after all. Peace —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 00:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Don't vandalize teh Francesco Barbaro page ==

You are reverting valid and sourced information. Stop doing that! You are vadalizing the page- go read the link for yourself! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.26.30.239|63.26.30.239]] ([[User talk:63.26.30.239|talk]]) 00:56, 24 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* Reverting edits by a block-evader is not vandalism. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== R. J. Williams ==

regarding this profile agreed certain things should be cited i have done so to a few I'll try and do more when I have more time---Not sure why you say imdb is not reputable there are hundreds of wiki pages that use imdb as a reference. I removed the notability guidelines as there have been over 20 people that have placed information on this bio and the person that initailly added it has numerous contributions and a stellar reputation with wiki. My focus is also on american TV hosts as you can see that what I spend most of my time on here at wiki and this bio would fall under that. Dont really see it as a news release but if you feel it is why don't you just make edits to make it more suitable? [[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]]) 23:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)Movieman2008

* IMDb can be edited by anyone, therefore it is not a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. Additionally, the number of edits to a page have no relevance to the notability of the subject. As for your "focus", it seems to be primarily on R.J. Williams. I suggest that you are either Williams himself or have a connection to him or his company. Please read [[WP:COI]] for Wikipedia's guidelines regarding conflicts of interest. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I find it odd you say my focus is primarily R.J. Williams when until you went in and starting drastically altering the page I had only made 1 edit and it was essentially just re-wording what was already inputted by several other people. Very confused as to why you would start mentioning a conflict of interest with his company when prior to your edits I have never posted anything about his company. As for my imdb question it was very valid since multiple profiles on wiki use it as a reference. (03:00, 27 December 2008 (UTC)) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Movieman2008|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* I didn't say your IMDb question was invalid—you asked why it was unreliable, and I told you. That it has incorrectly been used as a source in other articles does not change the fact that it is unreliable. And you're right, you ''had'' only edited the article once before me (and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Branson&diff=prev&oldid=244935336 added a link to his website] in another article). I was confusing you with all the other [[WP:SPA|single-purpose accounts]] promoting Williams and his website (like {{user|Rjw2007}}—musta been the similarity in names). And your mischaracterization of my edits as "drastically altering" the page is weird, too. I fixed a number of formatting issues (see [[WP:MOS]] for Wikipedia format), added some cite requests, removed excessive external links per [[WP:EL]], and added some template messages regarding the subject's questionable notability, and the article's style and lack of references. In fact, the external links were the ''only'' content removed from the article, not very drastic, if you ask me. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 03:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I will admit I am relatively new to wiki and am still trying to learn how things work here. I have alot of knowledge about the reality hosting world and feel i can make valid contributions. Its just frustrating that i take the time to make them and someone suddenly removes them. And then very frustrating when you mentioned conflict of interest, but if you confused my name with someone else then i can see where you were coming from. As for drastically altering i am questioning the "questionable notabilty" tag you added. He happens to be quite well known and I've seen him featured on television quite frequently---so dont understand how notabilty could be in question. Several people have taken alot of time to build the page over some time so doesnt make sense how now the notability can be in question. If thats how it works here on wiki then i dont want to be apart of it--doesn't make sense i spend hours trying to help the community and then suddenly someone can decide to delete a profile. I'm going through this on another profile one for "Sal Masekela"--his has been there for a long time I took the time to contribute and now some person with only a few contributions to his name is questioning his notability and tagged his proifle. The guy is the star of the highest rated show on one of the most popular channels in America. Hopefully you hear where I'm coming from--citations and all that stuff i get but to suddenly nominate profiles be deleted that really shouldnt be just doesn't seem fair. As for imdb so i should go through articles and remove it from references anytime someone posts it? Where can i go to learn what is a suitable reference? i can make alot of profiles better but i dont want to waste time if im doing so with non suitable references. [[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]]) 03:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

* The way the notability tag works is that you add more information that shows the subjects notability, then the tag is removed. For a media personality like Williams, that would be most easily achieved by adding references from non-trivial media coverage (from ''established'' media, like newspapers, magazines, national TV shows, etc.) Please visit the [[Talk:R. J. Williams|talk page]] of the article in question for more discussion of the contents of that article. For sourcing information, I suggest you visit [[WP:RS]] and do some reading. IMDb is generally considered to be reliable in terms of movie credits for released films ''but'' since the content on IMDb is user-submitted, most anything else should be cited from another source, including biographical information. If the subject is notable enough, it shouldn't be too hard to find an alternate source. I would agree that Sal Masekela is likely to be notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. However, the article—in its current state—needs a lot of work. I can see how someone unfamiliar with him could come across that article and doubt his notability. If the Daily 10 really is the highest rated show on E!, then the article should reflect that (with a [[WP:V|verifiable]] reference from a reliable source). It should also be in the introductory paragraph rather tagged on the end like an afterthought. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 12:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

This is really not cool--I have now spent several hours adding references to the bio-- I literally posted it up 5 minutes ago and was in the process of writing you asking you to please discuss on talk board before you take down my work and now its already taken down---How is it you erased my comments after only 5 minutes of being posted? You mention a clip was down i guess there was a typo in the url it would have been simple for you to notify me on talk to doublecheck the clip instead of immediately removing it its very valid-here it is to see for your self--- http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=5224972&version=1&locale=EN-US I'm starting to think you have a personal thing issue with this guy--if thats the case you should have just told me at the beginning so i didnt waste any time on it. I could have put these hours to use on another profile instead of one you are monitoring 24/7 because u want it removed so bad. ([[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]]) 01:07, 28 December 2008 (UTC)).

* I didn't touch the malformed link you added. I do realize I tagged it as unreliable when I meant to tag it as failing verification (as I mentioned in the edit summary, appearing in one clip does not support claims of "several shows"); the tag has been changed. I did my edits separately so you could easily see in the edit summaries why I did what I did. Any questions about that can be brought up on the article's talk page. I don't have a personal issue with this guy; I never even heard of him until I saw someone spamming his website across different articles. Undoing those edits lead me to his article, and what I saw didn't convince me of his notability. That's all. As for wanting it removed "so bad", if that were the case, I wouldn't bother tagging and fixing format, I would have put it up for deletion right away. Instead, I am giving other editors the chance to improve it and show notability. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:19, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Now I see you went and deleted the credits reference i added --this was a direct quote form you above "IMDb is generally considered to be reliable in terms of movie credits for released films" I used it in the terms of a released film ---A user cant go and manipulate what Showtime Networks lists as a film THEY distributed---if you click on link there are multiple shows that they distributed that say they are produced by arjay entertainment---you just obviously didnt take the time to look--amazing i can spend an hour to find the info and u can spend 2 minutes to just delete it when i was following a tip that you gave saying only use imdb for credits. I've found clips of 2 of the biggest networks in the world interviewing him Fox and ABC yet you still question his notability---I'm sure there are tons of other instances of major outlets interviewing him but im not going to bother finding them now because you will just delete anyway---- im tried reasoning with you and gone above and beyond trying to do what you've asked and i've got to tell you that you have made the wikipedia experience miserable for me--im taking my time to try and help the community and this is what happens----im not going to waste anymore time arguing and going back and forth with you --you win keep the profile how you want because in all honesty now i could care less. ([[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]]) 01:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)).

* The main problem with your reference was not that it was IMDb, it's that it said ''nothing'' about Williams' company—it was just a list of films that Showtime handled. A list of films is not proof that "This presentation caught the eye of Showtime executives and he then began a relationship that lasted several years and spawned numerous series and specials." —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Barbaro hoaxer ==

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Thanks for your help on dealing with the hoaxer. If you have questions about this ongoing problem, please see [[User:Barneca/watch/societyfinalclubs]]. [[User:Edward321|Edward321]] ([[User talk:Edward321|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

:There is no Barbaro hoaxer. How can editors adding validly sourced material that can be checked by anyone be hoaxing. That is rediculous. You also can not justly block any user for making valid good faith edits, that is corrupton and abuse of power.[[Special:Contributions/4.143.236.17|4.143.236.17]] ([[User talk:4.143.236.17|talk]]) 01:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

::Not sure why you feel compelled to tell me this, 4.143.236.17. I haven't blocked you, and I know nothing about whether or not you're hoaxing. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:44, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you can help, that's why, I don't appreciate being blocked unjustly- and there is major confusion gong on.[[Special:Contributions/63.26.42.156|63.26.42.156]] ([[User talk:63.26.42.156|talk]]) 13:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

: There's nothing I can do for you. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 17:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

One thing you can do- is stop calling hoaxes by a living person's proper name- a person who is innocent. this talk goes all over the internet. the person's first initial is just fine. You don't half to be cruel to an innocent person.[[User:Upjoy|Upjoy]] ([[User talk:Upjoy|talk]]) 22:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Checkuser info. Good to see the latest crop of Barbaro hoaxer socks blocked and the temporary block of the IPs. I'm curious how some of the sock with no edits were detected. [[User:Edward321|Edward321]] ([[User talk:Edward321|talk]]) 00:59, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

* The person doing the checkuser can see what accounts were created and when by a particular IP (or likely even an IP range). That's why I asked for a check for sleeper accounts. Sometimes it doesn't pay off, but sometimes—especially with a long-time block evader like this—it does. Keep fighting the good fight —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 01:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

*The hoaxer is back. They recently added Vitus Barbaro to [[Vision Industries]] and are making other unsupported edits. [[User:Edward321|Edward321]] ([[User talk:Edward321|talk]]) 00:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== wow am I sorry ==

Oh man, I'm sorry about that. I forgot to save the page here before I clicked away from it. Basically, I think that your comment that kind of said he was that guy or whatever wasn't very nice. I definitely shouldn't have written that comment (I'm removing it right after this), but I was thinking of a similar situation that I was in (on the opposite side) when I was a newbie user and another editor really helped me. I think you could have been nicer, but you weren't really that bad looking at it again. My ''sincere'' apologies for writing that as it was totally wrong on my part. [[User:Thingg|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#3300ff;">Thingg</span>]][[User talk:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font colorstyle="color:#33ff00;">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</fontsup><]][[Special:Contributions/sup>Thingg|^{<font colorstyle="color:#ff0033;">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font>}]] 02:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

* That's OK, no harm done. I really just wanted to know if I was doing anything wrong. I did try to be non-accusatory about the COI suspicions I have but I wanted to be up-front about it at the same time. Williams' website has been spammed onto Wikipedia by a number of [[WP:SPA|SPA]]s so I was a bit on guard about it and promotional-type content in his article. Thanks for getting back to me. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 02:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Re: my talk page ==

Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I am back from vacation and have responded to [[User_talk:Moonriddengirl#I_need_help|the note at my talk page about you]]. Since it's about you, I thought to give you a heads up. Do please feel free to weigh in, especially if I have misinterpreted your actions in any way. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] ^{[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]} 21:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

* Thanks. You pretty much nailed it. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 21:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Notability ==

One of the things you mentioned on the usertalk page for RJ Williams was in order to show notability you need to show things such as proof of awards. I went ahead and added that a few days ago as well as a reference which you left in tact. So will you be ok if I remove the notability tag from the page? As for the advertising and citations tags you added I plan to leave those intact and let other users in the community try and find additional information and make those corrections. Apologize for erasing those in the beginning i wasn't aware the protocal but now moonriddengirl has explained its best to discuss before undoing something that was added. ([[User:Movieman2008|Movieman2008]] ([[User talk:Movieman2008|talk]]) 07:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)).

: It does not seem like the Youth in Film Awards are particularly notable. If that is the only award you can find, I would have to disagree with removing the notability tag. When I get a chance, I'll take a look at the changes to the page. In the future, rather than posting here, you can discuss any changes or proposed changes on the article's talk page, I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 16:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Chart guide ==

You might find [[User:Kww/goodcharts]] a useful reference. I'm interested in getting feedback before I start trying to make it a component of [[WP:Record charts]].&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 15:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

: I monitor [[Wikipedia talk:Record charts]], and checked out your chart—looks mighty comprehensive to me. Could be a bit complex for many users but I don't see that as avoidable. As long as the key is kept simple ("OK to use", "not OK to use and should be removed", and "not OK to use but need not be removed"), arguments should be kept to a minimum. You do good work. —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 18:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/4.224.186.180 4.224.186.180] ==

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[http://nicolewrayluvs.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=NicoleWrayDiscussion Nicole Wray Discussion] appears to have tapered off a tad. One post this year, and even our old friend appears to have given up hope.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 18:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

: I'm sure when that long-awaited album comes out (any day now) things will pick back up. A smash hit is just around the corner! —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 19:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

== [[Children of God]] ==

Thanks for the note. Well, the idea was to free up the main article to deal with it as a concept; who uses the term, what does it mean, etc. I'm fine with moving the COG cult article to another page. "Cult" was short, to-the-point (given their [[Flirty fishing|cultish practices]]), and corresponding with the "widely referred to as a cult" concept stated in the lede. But that said, [[Children of God (movement)]] works fine too. Sorry about not dealing with the redirects - I'll take a look. Regards, -[[User:Stevertigo|Ste]][[User_talk:Stevertigo|vertigo]] 04:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

: I'm sorry I don't have a specific disambiguation to suggest. Another solution would have been to leave the group at the root (since that seems to be by far the best-known use of the term) with a [[WP:HAT|hatnote]] pointing to the disambiguation page. Thanks for checking out the old links (hopefully sooner rather than later). —<font color="007FFF">[[User:Hello Control|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Hello, Control''']]</fontspan>]] ^{<font color="FF0000">[[User talk:Hello Control|<sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony]]</font>}]] 11:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== Bubble tea! ==

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==Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jorge Ferreira (Portuguese singer)==

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at [[{{#if:|{{{___location}}}| Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jorge Ferreira (Portuguese singer) }}]]. Thank you. [[User:The Ogre|The Ogre]] ([[User talk:The Ogre|talk]]) 14:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

==Suspicious edits==

There's a new editor [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Snowjumper] adding the same info to articles that the last crop of Barbaro hoaxer socks did. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mctrain/Archive] [[User:Edward321|Edward321]] ([[User talk:Edward321|talk]]) 01:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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