Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tran Quoc Binh: Difference between revisions
Content deleted Content added
MalnadachBot (talk | contribs) m Fixed Lint errors. (Task 12) |
|||
| (7 intermediate revisions by 6 users not shown) | |||
Line 1:
<div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page. ''
<!--
Note: If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to re-nominate an article for deletion, you must manually edit the AfD nomination links in order to create a new discussion page using the name format of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PAGENAME (2nd nomination)]]. When you create the new discussion page, please provide a link to this old discussion in your nomination. -->
The result of the debate was very close. Vote count is 9 delete, 4 keeps from registered users, 1 keep from an anon with no reason. I am closing this as a no consensus '''keep''' because the article has been somewhat rewritten during the course of the debate to make it look more like an encyclopedia article and less like an obituary which ''might'' address some of the "Wikipedia is not a memorial" concerns. I realize that this one is shaky, but I am in doubt here. A renomination of this article might be in order. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|<small>(Check!)</small>]] 12:08, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
===[[Tran Quoc Binh]]===
It is a Vietnamese American soldier obituary. The article doesn't establish why he is notable besides serving in the recent Iraq war and the first Vietnamese American solider died. Also, the article has some POV issues in the "Biography" section which is not my reason for deletion. The reason for the nomination: Wikipedia is not a memorial. [[User:J. Nguyen|J. Nguyen]] 05:18, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Line 4 ⟶ 10:
*'''Delete''' for the same reasons as at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor R. Lu]]. Very sad, but Wikipedia is not a memorial, and other memorials are out there for him. <span class="user-sig user-horsepunchkid">—[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family:monospace;font-variant:small-caps;cursor:crosshair;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]→[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color:#070;cursor:help;" title="Kame-san says: Talk to me!">龜</span>]]</span> 06:05, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' with compassion and respect. Oh how I hate to make this vote! Condolences to his family. [[User:Durova|Durova]] 06:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': Wikipedia is not a memorial site. We do have a 9/11 memorial, and it would be conceivable that other memorials could be created, but not in article space. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 13:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' "On November 12, 2004, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger issued a state decree that the California Capitol flags were to be flown at half-staff in honor of Sergeant Tran Quoc Binh." notable enough for me, plus its well sourced and verifiable [[User:FRS|FRS]] 19:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
**'''Comment:''' The problem with that is...the source for the information regarding the flag only came from a weblog entry in the External links section. I tried to search it for with "Tran Quoc Binh" + Schwarzenegger and it is not getting good results on the flag just that weblog and Wikipedia mirror sites that refer to it. --[[User:J. Nguyen|J. Nguyen]] 22:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Line 15 ⟶ 21:
*'''Delete''' per above. [[User:Dottoreso|Dottore So]] 15:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' [[User:65.35.197.181|65.35.197.181]] 15:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Wikipedia is not a memorial. He is neither more nor less notable than thousands of other veterans around the world. Note: If kept, this article must be completely rewritten. It's current tone is that of an obituary, not an encyclopedia article. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] [[User talk:Rossami|(talk)]] 18:46, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
::'''Comment''' I made some changes to suppress PoV a bit. --[[User:FRS|FRS]] 19:14, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Wikipedia is not a memorial. [[User:*drew|*drew]] 14:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''- wish article had more [[biographical]] info [[User:Davidrowe| DVD]]+[[User_talk:Davidrowe| R/W]] 09:32, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.''</div>
| |||