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I hope you don't mind, but I added an entry for station branding. In my opinion, stations are more likely to change the slogan more often than the on-air branding.

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==Branding==

I hope you don't mind, but I added an entry for station branding. In my opinion, stations are more likely to change the slogan more often than the on-air branding. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] ([[User talk:Pentawing|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pentawing|contribs]]) 19 January 2006</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

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== [[Analog signal]]/[[digital signal]] ==

I have added a line for [[effective radiated power]] to this template. --[[User:KelisFan2K5|KelisFan2K5]] 02:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:Anyone who includes that should probably also include the transmitter height and possibly the [[list of broadcast station classes|station class]] (height can be just as or more important than ERP in many cases). &mdash;[[User:Mulad|Mulad]] [[User talk:Mulad|(talk)]] 02:55, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

::Height as in above average terrain or ground level? I might also add that information on transmitter ___location be included as well. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 03:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

:::Is this really something that should be in the infobox? I tend to think not -- it's not really core information (like channel numbers, affiliations, etc.) -- and because it's something that most people will go.. "huh?" to. I think that it should be in the individual articles where it can be better explained -- not in the infobox. Plus, someone very dedicated would have to cull the information for the 100+ stations already using this box. Thoughts? Boisemedia 03:57, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

:::I should say that I am for adding transmitter ___location however -- that's a little bit more main-stream information. Boisemedia 03:58, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

::::In that case, change ERP with transmitter ___location and move that entry next to the channel numbers. If everyone is for that, I will be willing to do so. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 00:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Are totally the wrong articles to link to - completely out-of-context. [[Analog television]] and [[digital terrestrial television]] are the suitable target articles, which I'm going to change the template to using. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kiand|Kiand]] ([[User talk:Kiand|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kiand|contribs]]) 4 January 2006</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

== ERP (again) ==

== Recommending "Sister Stations" Entry ==

I've again removed ERP, per the discussion above. This template is on nearly 600 articles, and adding this insignificant piece of data to each one would be a long process with very little benefit. Boisemedia 03:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

May I suggest that an entry for sister stations be added to this Infobox? This would come in handy for a station that is part of a duopoly or LMA (such as WNYW and WWOR in the New York City market), or to show the relationship between TV and radio stations under the same ownership in the same city (such as WTMJ-TV with WTMJ-AM and WKTI-FM in Milwaukee). The Radio Station Infobox already has a "Sister Stations" entry, so adding one to this Infobox would be complimentary. Thanks in advance.

== ERP should return in my opinion ==

== Possibly adding the NavHide feature onto the infobox... ==

i thought that the ERP was well-needed. most of the stations have the ERP information anyway. What's the worst that happens if a station doesn't have a stated ERP? it simply is blank? that's ok. As for the class, i could go through the TV stations, and put their class on (LP, CA, TV, DT).

Is there a chance of adding the NavHide codes onto the layout and if so how will it be done??? '''[[User:WIKIVUE Detroit|WIKIVUE Detroit]]''' ([[User talk:WIKIVUE Detroit|talk]]) MON SEP 03 2007 11:20 PM EDT

should i put the ERP information back on? i dont' want to start an edit war or anything...

== Edit request ==

[[User:Raccoon Fox|Raccoon Fox]] 14:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

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:You asked "what's the worst that happens if a station doesn't have a stated ERP". For many articles, it's not simply blank. I refer you to [[WTVG]]. Yeah, we could add the ERP tag back to the infobox in those articles, and (if no one reverts this infobox again) you're welcome to do so. However, there are simply too many articles that don't have the ERP tag, and it'll take a long time to track down and update all of them.

Make the licensee field stand out on its own instead of being a subfield of "owner" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_television_station%2Fsandbox&diff=1292269058&oldid=1192349980] [[User:Mvcg66b3r|Mvcg66b3r]] ([[User talk:Mvcg66b3r|talk]]) 03:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:I'd like some more comment on this before deploying, but it is possible. It also looks like this template was set up this way for six months in 2020. I'm not convinced it's a ''good'' idea, but it is doable, and the sandbox code looks good. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 04:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:To be honest, since you're the one who added the ERP section, I feel you should be the one responsible for bringing all the articles up to standard, should this version of the infobox stays. And I won't help with it, as frankly I just don't have that much time. Happy editing. - [[User:Hinto|Hinto]] 17:14, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

::Hi {{u|Mvcg66b3r}}, thanks for your proposal. {{u|Sammi Brie}} is right: this change was already proposed and accepted at {{§l|Template talk:Infobox television station/Archive 1|Move licensee to its own row}}, finalized on 1 February 2020, but it was later undone after the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations/2020 infobox redesign proposal]]. I kinda support this request, but I'd like a comment from {{u|Jonesey95}}. [[User:Est. 2021|Est. 2021]] ([[User talk:Est. 2021|talk]]&nbsp;<b>&middot;</b>&#32;[[User:Est. 2021/contribs|contribs]]) 09:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I hesitate to contradict the consensus discussion at that page, which involved many participants and harmonized the radio and television infoboxes on "Owner (Licensee)" with a line break between the two values. It's not my cup of tea, since I think it is unclear what the parentheses indicate, but I do respect consensus. We would need a new discussion to overturn that choice, IMO, and we any change should be implemented in both infoboxes. I am marking this edit request as answered, since I do not think we can implement it without a new discussion. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 13:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

::::@[[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] I led that process and somehow wasn't aware that television hadn't changed but radio had. Probably needs to be a new discussion for both infoboxes. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her · [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 15:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)