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==Total rewrite in progress, November 2010==
'''From Graham Davies, November 2010'''
I hadn't looked closely at this article for a couple of years - sometime back in 2008. In the meantime it had got into a dreadful mess - too many cooks. The only way it can be rescued is to rewrite it from scratch. I am now in the course of doing this. Some of the existing material can be recycled, but a lot of it is irrelevant and out of date. I am taking on board some of the comments that other contributors have made
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Advertisement for the Rosetta Stone removed. There are many more CALL programs that could have been mentioned. Better not to list any commercial products, I think, unless cited as an example of a particular ''type'' of program, e.g. Sim City and Montevidisco. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:23, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
:I was reading this article and looking for examples of CALL software. I put a link in the Rosetta Stone article pointing back to this one. A question I still have as a Wikipedia reader is what other CALL programs there are out there. I have no answer and was hoping some other editor did and would be willing to edit the article. [[Special:Contributions/199.245.32.210|199.245.32.210]] ([[User talk:199.245.32.210|talk]]) 20:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
The opening paragraphs of the article have been revised [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:47, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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The '''See also''' section has been verified and added to. I have added new verifiable titles to the '''Resources''' section, now renamed '''Bibliography''' - which will be referenced extensively as I re-edit the article as a whole. I removed the original link to Loucky (2010) as it bypassed a subscription service - which I believe to be dishonest. The link now goes to the TOC page of the journal (Literary and Linguistic Computing, OUP) in which the article appears. I checked most of the citations in the sections that I have not yet re-edited. Ehsani & Kodt (1998) are cited several times. They are a reliable source, but speech technology has moved on in leaps and bounds since 1998, and this source is therefore no longer a reflection of ICT's capabilities in this area. Stepp-Cready (2002) is a reliable source, though also a bit dated now. I cannot verify the references to Leigh Thelmadatter's article, "The Computers Are Coming … Are Here!", TESOL Greece Newsletter 95, but it appears that large sections of the Wikipedia article as edited by Thelmadatter in 2007 are a reproduction of this article at http://vennyoktarina75.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/call.doc. I checked all the references to Noemi Domingo's article. The actual date of the article cannot be verified, but the dates of the articles and books cited in the article all predate 2000, and it is clearly an outdated source. Noemi Domingo is not a familiar name in the world of CALL. Clearly, the Wikipedia article still needs a lot of work to bring it up to date. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
The section on '''CALL software design''' has been revised to incorporate a summary of Stepp-
[[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 19:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Title of the section headed '''CALL software design''' changed to '''CALL software design and pedagogy''' to reflect its contents more accurately. Minor changes to the section headed '''CALL typology and phases of CALL'''. Title of the section headed '''Multimedia language centres''' changed to '''Multimedia CALL''', with new text on multimedia CALL added at the beginning of the section. I am reasonably happy with the structure of the article at this stage. It makes sense as it stands, and I can now continue adding new sections, as planned, on '''Web-based CALL''', '''Corpora and concordancing''', '''Computer-mediated communication (CMC) and CALL''', '''Interactive whiteboards''', '''CALL in virtual worlds''', '''Teacher education in CALL''', '''The impact of CALL'''. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 12:07, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
New section on '''Web-based CALL''' added. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 13:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Redundant references in '''Further reading''' section removed, as recommended under Wikipedia guidelines. Current further reading references will remain for the time being until incorporated as citations in the main text within the next 2-3 weeks. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 10:21, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
I have added two more sections to this article: '''Corpora, concordances and CALL''', and '''CALL in virtual worlds'''. For the time being, I aim to leave the article as it is, apart from making minor additions and improvements. It may be desirable to add further sections on '''Computer-mediated communication''', '''Interactive whiteboards''', '''Teacher education in CALL''' and '''Mobile-assisted language learning''', but the article as it stands now covers a wide range of current manifestations of CALL that go far beyond the areas covered by the original article on which I started work in November 2010, and it includes many more citations that can be followed up by readers who wish to explore different aspects of CALL in more depth. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 17:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Martin Lapworth has contacted me suggesting that a section on authoring tools could be added. Sounds like a good idea. There is a module on '''CALL authoring programs''' (Module 2.5) at the ICT4LT site (which I edit):
http://www.ict4lt.org/en/en_mod2-5.htm [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 13:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
I have archived all the old discussions (August 2007 to March 2010) as they are no longer relevant to the article as it now stands.[[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 10:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to ClueBot NG for spotting serious case of vandalism by Supyanhussin and reverting to previous version [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 12:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I’ve taken a close look at Supyanhussin’s changes to the article. Most of them date back to an older version. They are unacceptable for the following reasons:
(1) The changes represent an outdated view of CALL, predating the definition produced by Levy (1997).
(2) Levy’s broad definition of CALL is accepted by established professional CALL associations, notably CALICO and EUROCALL. Both associations accept conference papers and publish articles on the topics that Supyanhussin claims are outside the ambit of CALL. EUROCALL has SIGs dedicated to concordancing/corpora and to CMC.
(3) The changes damage the structure of the article as a whole.
(4) The changes make the introduction read like a polemic rather than part of an encyclopaedia article.
[[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 15:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
I have restored the previous version once again. The reasons are given above. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 10:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Further to the above, regarding Supyanhussin's criticisms of Levy's broad definition of CALL (which were added to the main article and then removed), see also Levy & Hubbard (2005), who raise the question ''Why call CALL “CALL”?'' A reference to Levy & Hubbard has now been added to the main article. Further discussion of what people understand by CALL might be useful but should be raised here before being added to the main article. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
DITTO: == What is "concordancers"? ==
Clearly, at a minimum here some _links_ to the definitions of these highly technical terms will be required _prior_ to this "Corpora and concordancers" section, however, from an more general editing perspective, assuming in advance that this article could be made accessible to the non-specialist reader, I would have greatly preferred an introduction to terminology of CAL, and a discussion of these specific terms during their first usage (I.E., in a previous section); these terms do seem rather specialized to the perspective of experts in "CAL".
== What is "corpora"? ==
The text never defines it, and I have not been able to find it.
[[Special:Contributions/85.102.139.215|85.102.139.215]] ([[User talk:85.102.139.215|talk]]) 21:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
:I got this from dictionary.com, it is the plural of corpus which means
cor·pus
[kawr-puhs] Show IPA
noun, plural -po·ra [-per-uh] Show IPA for 1–3, 5, -pus·es for 4.
1.
a large or complete collection of writings: the entire corpus of Old English poetry.
2.
the body of a person or animal, especially when dead.
3.
Anatomy. a body, mass, or part having a special character or function.
4.
Linguistics. a body of utterances, as words or sentences, assumed to be representative of and used for lexical, grammatical, or other linguistic analysis.
5.
a principal or capital sum, as opposed to interest or income.
[[User:MilkStraw532|MilkStraw532]] ([[User talk:MilkStraw532|talk]]) 22:03, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately byki has been discontinued and is no longer available.
Many people still have copies on their laptop or computer.
Please share these with others who wish to learn new languages. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/212.2.160.50|212.2.160.50]] ([[User talk:212.2.160.50#top|talk]]) 11:41, 23 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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