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'''Previous discussions:'''
== Errors in date style "fixes" ==
*[[User_talk:Tony1/Archive01|Archive 1 (4 August 2005 to 14 October 2005)]]:
Hi Tony. Can I ask you to be careful when doing date style fixes, not to "fix" date ranges when there are mulltiple date ranges in close proximity to one another. This typically happens with football seasons, for example. Specifically, in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_FC_Steaua_Bucure%C8%99ti&diff=1214122309&oldid=1213602849 this edit], "their five-year winning streak in the championship between 1984–85 and 1988-89" is correct and "between 1984 and 1985 and 1988–89" is wrong; "Steaua managed a six consecutive championship streak between 1992–93 and 1997–98" is right and "between 1992 and 1993 and 1997–98" is wrong; "to make it to the Champions League group stage three years in a row between 1994–95 and 1996–97" is correct and "between 1994 and 1995 and 1996–97" is wrong. [[User:Scolaire|Scolaire]] ([[User talk:Scolaire|talk]]) 17:28, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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By the way, why do you not link to your talk page archives? It would be useful for me to find out whether this has been brought to your attention before. [[User:Scolaire|Scolaire]] ([[User talk:Scolaire|talk]]) 17:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
==Shipwreck lists==
Please do not unlink flags in lists of shipwrecks or ship launches. There are hundreds of these lists and established practice is that the flags link. [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 06:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
== ClevelandNoam FACBettan ==
Hello, could you help me give more notoriety to the article [[Noam Bettan]] if you have them but they opened this query hastily. [[User:Acartonadooopo|Acartonadooopo]] ([[User talk:Acartonadooopo|talk]]) 04:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
== April 19, 2024 ==
Tony, thanks for the comments. I'll get around to editing the prose tomorrow, as it's way past my bedtime here on the US east coast, but in the meantime I've edited nbsp's into the article (exactly what purpose do they serve, though? Is it to keep the unit on the same line with the measurement?), and streamlined the footnotes to always come after a period.
Hello, this is Winter. I have noticed that some of your script assisted edits have not followed the documentation stated by infobox company. You are spamming these edits without properly reviewing what they are doing. Please take the time to review your edits. If you have a complaint, please move it to the company infobox talk page. <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 14:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Couple of concerns that I didn't get to, though: first, the figures for the [[United States metropolitan area|MSA]] and [[Combined statistical area|CSA]] populations came directly from their respective pages on Wikipedia, and from there they trace back to the 2000 census. Are those usable, or should the entire reference be junked as non-verifiable? Second, I know you didn't bring this up, but if you would take a look at the [[Cleveland, Ohio#Demographics|demographics section]]. The two photos on the left don't work with the current formatting, and I don't want to lose the census data as I think it's very illustrative of the population rise and fall of the city. Do you have any ideas on how those can be formatted?
:Can you give me some examples please? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 22:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
::On [[Paramount Global]], you changed many of the perimeters to be delinked and also changed <nowiki>[[Public company|Public]]</nowiki> to Public company, even though the documentation stated that it has to be the original. On [[Princess Pictures]], you changed <nowiki>[[Privately held company|Private]]</nowiki> to Privately held company. This has already been revised, that is why the perimeter is "Company type" and not "Type" anymore. <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 23:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
::There was recently a discussion (but where?) on this point, with consensus that "Public" and "Private" are sufficient. By "perimeter", do you mean "field"? I don't follow your logic: if the perimeter is "Company type", why repeat the word "company"? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
== Shripad Amrit Dange ==
Many thanks for your help. Take care -- [[User:PacknCanes|PacknCanes]] 06:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I did not insert links. Somebody else did and you removed them. Can you justify their removal?
*I'll be honest -- I haven't gone through the whole thing with a fine-toothed comb yet. Most of the copyediting has been done so far by [[User:EurekaLott|EurekaLott]] and [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]]; I've been more focused on exactly what to include (and then rewriting the sections that I do work on). I'll get around to going through it more tomorrow, but I was a journalism major in college, so I'd like to think that I'll catch most stuff. Probably not all of it, I'll admit, but not even four eyes can do the trick for me all the time. :) [[User:PacknCanes|PacknCanes]] 07:16, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Do you take my point about the lakhs?
Can you justify any of the other changes? [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 08:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:The problem with lakhs is that no one else (non-Indian second-language speakers included) understands them. You need to insert conversions at the very least. en.WP rations links to the most likely to be followed by readers. Most of those links were common terms: we do ''not'' want a sea of blue, which disrupts the reader. This was decided a decade and a half ago; also, please read [[WP:OVERLINK]]. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 08:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
::I agree about conversions. There are certain Americanisms in other articles which non-Americans do not understand (or which mean something else in British English e.g. "braces") which I have pointed out -not the spellings or the simple words that appear in US films like "faucet,"
::I'll have a look at the blue links when I get the chance. Can you justify the word changes you have made.? [[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] ([[User talk:Spinney Hill|talk]]) 09:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:::In order to? Never use it. Amongst? No. Same for whilst. These are pretentious old-fashioned glutinous forms. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 09:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
::::I strongly agree! —[[User talk:Finell|Finell]] 02:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{tpw}} @[[User:Spinney Hill|Spinney Hill]] On lakhs, please see [[MOS:LAKH]] and [[MOS:COMMONALITY]]. On links, [[MOS:OVERLINK]] sets out that major geographical entities (countries etc), among other things, should not be linked to. Thanks. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 13:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
::Spinney, if you need a quick run-through of another article you've worked on, please ask and I'll try (unless my workload is high at the time). [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 13:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
== talkHi page archivingTony1 ==
I am happy to see that you are still very active and, I hope, well. Have you ever considered publishing your excellent guidance on writing to a broader public than those who discover it on your User and Talk pages? Have you already done so? —[[User talk:Finell|Finell]] 02:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
[[Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page]]
:Finell, it's available to the public already; all that's needed is to promote it outside WP. It desperately needs renovation, which will have to wait untill I finish a big job (should be in a few months). Thanks for your kind words. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 02:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
== Script error in downcasing? ==
<small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 08:03, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Tony, in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Muirhead_(scholar)&diff=prev&oldid=1222017606 this edit] you changed [[University of Edinburgh]] to [[university of edinburgh]]. This seems like a bug in the script you're using? [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 04:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
== Hey Tony! ==
:Thanks, Dick. I've reported this to Ohconfucius. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 04:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
::i seem to remember having had this discussion before. Isn't it nonsense for someone to have "professor of University of Edinburgh" as an occupation? Are people not aware of the difference between a person's occupation and their job title? It isn't even a subtle difference. The occupation of the subject ought simply to be "educator" or "professor", don't you think? {{wink}}--<small><span style="background-color:#ffffff;border: 1px solid;">[[User:Ohconfucius|'''<span style="color:#000000; background-color:#EEE8AA"> Ohc </span>''']]</span></small>[[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>''revolution of our times''</sup>]] 21:11, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Agreed. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 06:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
== Script-assisted flag fix errors ==
Hey Tony, just checking up and saying you're doing pretty well. I've seen you around a lot and anyways my main point is to say: I'd like to nominate you for adminship. You currently have 1731 edits, and the magic number for most of us is 2000. So when you get that lucky 2000, leave a note at my talk page stating so, and I'll write up your RfA. Cheers! [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]—[[WP:RFCRED|How's my driving?]]) 03:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for your many script-assisted fixes. I noticed that some of the {{tl|flagg}} fixes don't always render correctly, for example at [[Special:Diff/1217808882]]. Also, I'm not sure if it is wise to replace {{tlx|flagg|cncie}} with {{tlx|flagu}} as a rule, because they aren't necessarily exchangeable, the former uses [[IOC country code]] while the latter uses [[ISO 3166-1]] which doesn't always match. If you want to unlink the country name, you can use {{tlx|flagg|uncie}} instead. Thanks, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 15:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
== [[University of Michigan]] ==
==St. Michaels Historic District==
I am thinking of nominating the article for FA soon, but I need a final check of the prose before I proceed. If you get the chance, can you look over the article and tell me if there is anything that has been missed? Thanks. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 04:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Tony1 - Thank you for your cleanup of [[St. Michaels Historic District]]. It is a busy tourist attraction during the summer. Any idea why the article is rated as Stub-class? [[User:TwoScars|TwoScars]] ([[User talk:TwoScars|talk]]) 19:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
*Concerning the comments, much of the history details are in a sub-article (the history section is merely a summary). As for "school vs. university," I am not sure what you meant here. Can you clarify? On the other hand, I am carefully copyediting the entire article per your suggestions. Thanks. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 18:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASt._Michaels_Historic_District&diff=1223251839&oldid=1205422597 Not anymore]! [[User:The ed17|Ed]] <sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 21:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
**Thanks for the clarification. However, I didn't see that confusion anywhere in the article. Exactly where did you see the problem? Thanks. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 02:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:TwoScars|TwoScars]] ([[User talk:TwoScars|talk]]) 15:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
== [[Draft:Imagicomm Entertainment|Imagicomm Entertainment]] moved to draftspace ==
*I went through and did some modifications, including the following:
:#"Proportion" to "size." The original author of that material had that in mind.
:#"Academic members" to "faculty." I am unsure of this, since faculty seems to be a popular term, especially in the U.S. ("academic member" isn't a term that I normally hear). The number refers to all members of the faculty, including non-tenured members. How should I word this?
:#Removed "prestigious" in front of National Academy. Normally, I don't hear this description being used explicitly (though I could be wrong).
:As for the headings, I will defer to your suggestions though it seems that academics is a very popular heading in other university articles. If I wish to use academics as a heading, how do you recommend it be used if the heading is used at all? Anyways, I am thinking of nominating this article for FA soon. Should I wait longer before I proceed? Thanks. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 03:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
**I decided on "academic profile" for the heading instead of "teaching and learning." Anyways, let me know when you are finished. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 05:46, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your contributions to [[Draft:Imagicomm Entertainment|Imagicomm Entertainment]]. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because '''it needs more sources to establish notability'''.
*You left a note concerning the passage about a U-M flag on the moon being "silly." However, I believe it is an interesting anecdote concerning the alumni network of U-M. This is a unique fact which is often noted by people from U-M, especially university administrators and those affiliated with the alumni network. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 04:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
**Should it be removed then (that is what you seem to be implying)? [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 04:35, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
***Edits seem a bit silly, so I reverted to the previous version (if you don't mind). However, I would be open to a better version of it. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 05:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Please see more information at [[Help:Unreviewed new page]].
== Thanks for the cleanup of the Microsoft lead! ==
When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. [[Glass|<span style="color: #0000cc">Clear</span>]][[User:Clearfrienda|<span style="color: #ff0000">friend</span>]][[Rickroll|<span style="color: #5AC18E">a</span>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Clearfrienda|💬]]</sup> 23:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
== Script errors ==
Admittedly that was the toughest part, as I generally can only do more "functional" prose then the "brilliant" variety :). Also thanks for objecting to featured article candidates with poor writing :). Now, I look forward to your objection to my article :).
A couple of errors I've noticed from recent edits:
(BTW I don't use the search thing here as I don't have that high of an opinion of it, I generally just use google... :))
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Saul_Griffith&diff=prev&oldid=1226655114] – introduced inconsistency with abbreviation of degrees (M.E. vs PhD)
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vince_Martin_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=1226655897] – Woy Woy is not in Sydney
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dugald_Munro&diff=1226655549&oldid=1218196101] – grammatical error introduced ("served" changed to "had")
[[User:ITBF|ITBF]] ([[User talk:ITBF|talk]]) 02:43, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
*Thanks. (i) That inconsistency is built into the script. (2) Not the script: that's my fault. I'll fix it. (3) Again, my manual edit. I find "served as" for wealthy, powerful politicians rather self-serving. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
<small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 03:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
== Redundant commas ==
== [[Military History of Canada]] ==
Hi Tony! Recently a User made an edit to [[VH-RMQ]], an article on my watchlist. The edit added 25 characters but most of the additions were redundant commas. See the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MacRobertson_Miller_Airlines_Flight_1750&diff=prev&oldid=1226460752 diff].
Hi Tony, I've been going through the articles on FAC that you're tearing apart quite nicely :). I'm no english major, so I'd like to know what you think of the newly-reworked lead of the [[Military History of Canada]]. Mostly I just want writing advice from a professional editor :). Plus, I don't want to waste my time reworking a 50kb article if my changes don't help. One more thing—I worked on the [[U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program]], addressing most of your concerns, though I'm not sure what the problem is with "The program's roots". Any insight would be most appreciated. --[[User:Spangineer|Spangineer]] <small>[[User talk:Spangineer|<font color=brown>(háblame)</font>]]</small> 04:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I checked the User contributions for the User responsible and I could see that most of their edits insert commas where previously there were no commas. The majority are to insert commas at the end of dates that are embedded in sentences. For example, the following: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Quest_Diagnostics&diff=prev&oldid=1226649270 diff 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Mayer_(executive)&diff=prev&oldid=1226634608 diff 2] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_Library_Federation&diff=prev&oldid=1226609803 diff 3].
Before I write to the User responsible I want to check what resources are available to help Users with the matter of commas, and redundant commas in particular. Are you aware of any Wikipedia guidance that clarifies when commas are desirable, and when they are not?
I see you have some useful guidance on your User pages. Do you have anything devoted to commas that might persuade the User responsible that extra commas don’t necessarily mean extra quality? Thanks for any assistance. [[User:Dolphin51|<i style="color: green;">''Dolphin''</i>]] ''([[User talk:Dolphin51|<span style="color: blue;">t</span>]])'' 13:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:Please stop this user from inserting silly commas: they're like road-humps for readers. Unfortunately no "Comma workshop" yet, but perhaps later this year. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for your support. I found [[MOS:DATECOMMA]] and [[MOS:DATE]]. Unfortunately they do not support our preference for economy with commas around dates embedded in sentences.
::Perhaps there is an opportunity to challenge this item in MOS. Insisting on a comma after a date looks like a relic from the 1950s. [[User:Dolphin51|<i style="color: green;">''Dolphin''</i>]] ''([[User talk:Dolphin51|<span style="color: blue;">t</span>]])'' 10:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::I dislike the addition of a comma to produce the "In 1952, she moved to England." format, which I think might be a "fronted adverbial", something I never came across in an old-fashioned academic education in the UK. But if a date is in the American format with an internal comma, I feel that there does need to be a date after the year too. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 11:09, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
::::I don't see any difference across the Atlantic. It's rather difficult for a manual of style to legislate comma usage: it's complex. But adverbial and prepositional phrases at sentence start are just silly—a habit I fear editors see in others and adopt thinking it's required. BUT, if the initial phrase is medium to long, that sways a bit toward using the comma; and even after a short initial phrase a comma is useful for breaking up numerals; so "In 2011 1032 craters were detected on Mars" would possibly be improved with a comma. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 11:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::So many editors are adding those horrible commas after "In 1952" that I'd assumed it was correct, rather than reverting them as clunky prose, just as you say. I should be more assertive in the interests of decent writing. Thanks. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 11:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::At [[MOS:DATE]] there is actually a valuable ruling in the case of dates written as ''dd month year'' without an intervening comma. The Table shows that closing the date with a comma is incorrect. Hooray!
:::::I was able to incorporate this in a message to the User in question. See my [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tenneseoy&diff=prev&oldid=1226886192 diff].
:::::If the date is written as ''month date, year'' then the Table at MOS:DATE shows that a comma is required after the year, to close the date. [[User:Dolphin51|<i style="color: green;">''Dolphin''</i>]] ''([[User talk:Dolphin51|<span style="color: blue;">t</span>]])'' 11:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*Comma therapy is especially productive when an article goes through the history of the subject, with almost every paragraph starting the same repetitive way. This needs the delete button to smooth things out. Watch for nested phrases, though, like: "In 2011, without hindsight, the troops went on the attack." [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 11:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*:What do you think of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alex_Sobel&diff=1226916072&oldid=1226873775 this example]? [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 18:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*::I'm OK with that one—such a cluster of linked constituencies and wards. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 05:24, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:Tony1|Tony1]] Please start a campaign to amend [[MOS:COMMA]] to include "Where not to use a comma". I hope you agree with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charlotte_Kerner&diff=1233521472&oldid=1233491917 this edit], as I cited you as an authority! [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 14:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
*::Pam, I'll certainly be creating a "Comma workshop" tutorial page when I renovate them later this year. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 05:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
== FAC/searchingsingle-ses ==
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St_Clare%27s_College,_Waverley&curid=10888443&diff=1229344696&oldid=1225053084 This "Script-assisted style fixes"] includes a change to "single-se'''s'''", which is clearly wrong. I can't tell if it is a manual typo or an error in the script that needs fixing. [[User:Mitch Ames|Mitch Ames]] ([[User talk:Mitch Ames|talk]]) 09:01, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Well, I agree with you about the writing of course (of course its though for me to write FA-standard prose of course :)) :). Anyway, sure, the iMac thing sounds kind of fun and in need of a restructure :).
:Sorry, manual error. I'll fix it now. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 09:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC) PS I'm amused that this family of articles announces "single-sex" ''and'' "school for boys/girls". [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 09:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
== W. David Marx Script-assisted styles fixes ==
Also, for searching, you can use something like '"content" site:en.wikipedia.org' on google to restrict yourself to this wikipedia without mirrors - most of the time that works for content and/or finding a page. Although in rare cases if you are looking for a page name the search here can help, its generally not as accurate though :).
Hi Tony1,
Oh yeah - before I forget - the wikipedia search guide is at [[WP:SEARCH]]. :)
I can see that you are trying to use scripts to make changes on the article W. David Marx (Author). Having looked through your talk page, I can see that there are other people complaining about these edits. If you want to continue to edit on W. David Marx, please provide evidence and explanations for the changes you make, including taking out hyperlinks. Otherwise I will keep reverting them - without explanation I cannot understand why you are making these edits and therefore change my mind, if I am incorrect.
<small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 05:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Theobrad|Theobrad]] ([[User talk:Theobrad|talk]]) 09:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
==Bach intro==
:Yes, you are very much incorrect in linking common words like these: [[United States|American]] [[fashion]] and culture [[writer]] who works and lives in [[Tokyo]], Japan. Have you read [[WP:OVERLINK]]? If you don't like it, I suggest you launch an RFC at [[WT:MOSLINK]]. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 10:35, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi Tony1. Did you mean what I said about the musical family? Maybe I didn't express it well. What I meant was the phrase "one of the most amazing musical families", or whatever it said, is a kind of polite euphemism, because from everything we know it really is THE most amazing musical family, and "one of" seemed to be a kind of shilly-shallying phrase. Since we have no evidence that there's any other family that comes anywhere close, why not just say that it is indeed the most musical family about which we have any records? That was my point, even if I somehow didn't get it across well. [[User:Jjshapiro|Jeremy J. Shapiro]] 09:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
::With response to WT:MOSLINK, I understand why you have used the script. However, with this new information, I will happily go through myself and make these corrections individually if you don't mind. [[User:Theobrad|Theobrad]] ([[User talk:Theobrad|talk]]) 10:38, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
:::I think "blazer" should stay linked. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 10:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
::::I have gone through and adjusted your changes. In hindsight I agree most of them are correct. With the Board of Directors one, as it is a specific Board of Directors (one at Human Made) that I am referring to, is it or is it not meant to be capitalised. As it is in the same sentence as Human Made, it could be written "the Human Made Board of Directors," in which case it would definitely be capitalised (according to a quick search). [[User:Theobrad|Theobrad]] ([[User talk:Theobrad|talk]]) 10:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::The authoritative US and UK style guides, and our own [[WP:MOSCAPS]], say to minimise unnecessary capping. That includes "board of directors", "board", "board members", and "chair of the board". [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 10:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
== June 27, 2024 ==
==Military history of Canada==
Thank you very much for your work on this article, it is much improved. Please do note that all of my FACs spend several weeks on peer review, and I always include a request for copyediting as I am well aware that I am quite hopeless at it. If you have any more free time it would be great if you could have a look at [[Voter turnout]], which just cleared PR and is set to be my next FAC. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 14:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello, this is Winter. I have noticed that some of your style fixes have gone against the documentation of <nowiki>{{infobox company}}</nowiki>. Public company should always be linked as <nowiki>[[Public company|Public]]</nowiki>, and corporate titles always have to be linked. Please make sure your scripts comply with the documentation of <nowiki>{{infobox company}}</nowiki>. <sup>[[User:WiinterU|<span style="color: blue">Wii</span>]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contribs/WiinterU|<span style="color: purple">nter</span>]]</small><sub>[[User talk:WiinterU|<span style="color: turquoise">U</span>]]</sub> 00:32, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
== [[U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program]] ==
:OK, pinging {{ping|Ohconfucius}}. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 00:41, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
== Buggy script ==
Hi Tony, I've gone through [[U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program]] in its entirety, and while my editing skills leave alot to be desired, I've made a number of changes. Do you still oppose its [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program|FAC nomination]]? --[[User:Spangineer|Spangineer]] <small>[[User talk:Spangineer|<font color=brown>(háblame)</font>]]</small> 01:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yikes... and here I thought I was a decent writer :). Great job on this; now we just need to get some more people like you around here so that you don't feel obligated to proofread every featured article candidate that comes down the pike. --[[User:Spangineer|Spangineer]] <small>[[User talk:Spangineer|<font color=brown>(háblame)</font>]]</small> 03:20, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Tony, I've attempted to address all your outstanding issues on this FAC. What's left that I need to take care of to get your approval? I think we're really close here, and I'd like to get this moving on before it runs out of steam. Cheers! — [[User:Johantheghost|Johantheghost]] 10:43, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
I reverted your script-assisted edits to [[Crystallography]]. There was no reason I can see to remove the links to the UN or the centuries, removing that to [[iron]] was wrong as the structure matters, and changing "Paul heinrich von groth|Paul Heinrich von Groth" to "Paul heinrich von groth" is obviously wrong, even Google autocorrect knew this as I typed this message. Perhaps discontinue using it? [[User:Ldm1954|Ldm1954]] ([[User talk:Ldm1954|talk]]) 08:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
==[[Federalist No. 10]]==
:Who doesn't know what iron is? If its structure is at issue, link to the relevant ''section'' of [[Iron]]. Linking chronological terms is strictly discouraged, and has been since a community-wide RfC in 2009. I don't know how the von Groth thing happened. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 09:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::I removed the chronological terms as updated to [[Iron#Allotropes]], a good suggestion. The article needs major work, but is not at the top of my to-do list as yet, life is finite. [[User:Ldm1954|Ldm1954]] ([[User talk:Ldm1954|talk]]) 10:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Good work. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 10:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
== Alive! ==
I've made some changes to this article as you suggested. If you could take another look at the article and respond at [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Federalist No. 10]], that would be great. [[User:Christopherparham|Christopher Parham]] [[User_talk:Christopherparham|(talk)]] 06:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
*Hi Tony, I've madeam someso changeshappy to thesee articleyou perhave yourresumed comments.activity I'mon afraidWikipedia! thatYour Iwriting perhapsexercises can'twere beso asmuch helpfulfun asand youhave wouldmeasurably wish; seeimproved my commentswriting on(if thenot FACmy pagelife!). IfCarry youon wishmy thefriend, articleand I hope to adoptlearn yourmore particularof preferences,what ityou've maybeen bedoing morethe efficientpast fordecade. youWhat happened to simplyyour editresearch on the articlehuman yourself.factors in musical sight reading? [[User:ChristopherparhamKe6jjj|Christopher ParhamKe6jjj]] ([[User_talkUser talk:ChristopherparhamKe6jjj|(talk)]]) 1805:4523, 174 OctoberJuly 20052024 (UTC)
:Thanks for your kind words, Jeremy. The exercises are badly in need of renovation, which might happen by the end of the year. Research on sight reading? Since my PhD I haven't done anything in that area; but I ''am'' preparing something big in music theory. I don't think I ever left WP. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hello! I hope you're doing well.I've just created an article called [[5 July Committee]], but I'm not sure if it's totally ready to be on the Main article page or if I should move it back to a Draft page for more work. Your help with the [[National Office Against Racial Discrimination|other article]] I created was amazing, and I'd really appreciate it if you could take a look at this one too.Thanks a lot, and I hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Bruno pnm ars|Bruno pnm ars]] ([[User talk:Bruno pnm ars|talk]]) 11:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Removal of spouses in officeholder infoboxes ==
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Good afternoon! I noticed you'd removed the spouse names in [[William Morgan Conder]] and [[John Allen Greer]]. Is there any reason for removing these, so long as they're properly sourced? I know that for children, parents, or unmarried partners the guidance is to only include names if the individuals are notable, but that spouses are often included regardless of individual notability per the guidance in the basic biography [[Template:Infobox_person|template documentation]]. Wanted to make sure I hadn't missed some project discussion before I made any additional changes or edits. Thanks! [[User:Nfutvol|nf utvol]] ([[User talk:Nfutvol|talk]]) 01:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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:Hi, they ''weren't'' properly sourced (nor the claim of three children in the Condor article), and it wasn't thought suffidiciently important to include mention (and sources) in the main text. Biographies are stricter about sourcing than other articles are. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:37, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Tony1|Tony1]] Why leave Conder's wife in the text of the article, if she's not well-enough sourced for the infobox? Do different rules apply? [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 05:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hi there, I added back both of the spouse names to the infobox. For Greer, I added a ref to the infobox since it's not otherwise mentioned in the article. For Conder, it's sourced at the mention in the main text. I very much understand the sensitivities for biographies, especially BLP, but in these cases the spouse's name would be considered non-controversial fact-of information and is (now) appropriately sourced. Perhaps it's worth a broader discussion as to whether or not non-notable spouses should be included in infoboxes? If that's the case, we should probably take the conversation to the [[Template:Infobox person]] talk or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography]] talk. Have a great day! [[User:Nfutvol|nf utvol]] ([[User talk:Nfutvol|talk]]) 00:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
== ISO 4 ==
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Please keep dots in the infobox. See [[Template:Infobox journal#Parameters]].  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 23:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
== Generally/Typically ==
:Sure; what are the dots for? I'm pinging {{ping|Ohconfucius}}, who maintains the script. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 00:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
::The dots are used to indicate that a word is abbreviated. For example, ''J. Cell. Sci.'' could be for ''Journal of Cellular Science'', whereas ''J. Cell Sci.'' could be for ''Journal of Cell Science''. Dots can be omitted as a matter of style, but in the infobox it's clearer to use them. It will also prompt the creation of redirects (J. Cell. Sci. + J Cell Sci → Journal of Cellular Science) if they haven't been created.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 00:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:::On the topic of script fixes, same [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikalpa_(journal)&diff=next&oldid=1235427267 here], where it ndashed an ISSN, which should always be hyphenated.  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 00:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
::::I usually correct the ISSN problem manually. I must have made a mistake. The dots: no, I remove them manually, which is not uncommon practice. Tellingly, the well-known Caltech ''Web of Science'' list of journal abbreviations does not dot them. https://images.webofknowledge.com/images/help/WOS/A_abrvjt.html [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 02:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Web of Science can use whatever abbreviation system it wants, but [[ISO 4]] is dictated by the [[LTWA]]. [https://marcinwrochna.github.io/abbrevIso/ Tokenzero's tool] based on the [https://www.issn.org/services/online-services/access-to-the-ltwa/ LTWA list] is the best way to get abbreviations for a given name, though sometimes it returns wrong answers in corner cases. Abbreviation look up is integrated in the infobox, but you need to enable it ([[Template:Infobox journal#Search links]]).  <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;">[[User:Headbomb|Headbomb]] {[[User talk:Headbomb|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Headbomb|c]] · [[WP:PHYS|p]] · [[WP:WBOOKS|b]]}</span> 02:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
== Article not showing in google ==
Hi, Tony. I read your reviews on [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates|Featured article candidates]] regularly, as you seem to be one of the few editors there with experience as a copy editor. You obviously know what you are talking about, and I learn a great deal. But help me with this one: You recently commented in the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hamburger|Hamburger]] candidacy page that there was "a 'generally' that should be 'typically'". Can you explain the difference in usage for me? My dictionary lists them as synonyms. Thanks! [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 11:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the response, Tony. I generally try to use my words correctly, at least on a typical day. ;) [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 02:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
hi tony, Can you guide me why my newly created article about Minh-Tam (Tammy) Tran not showing in google [[User:Naqqash6|Naqqash6]] ([[User talk:Naqqash6|talk]]) 12:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
== [[Texas Ranger Division]] ==
== ANI discussion ==
My dear Tony, I merely wanted to thank you both for the extensive work you performed at that article and your support at its FAC stage. Allow me to tell you that your contribution was fantastic and comprehensive, and it raised the article's quality as a whole immensely. Your attention to detail and writing style has also been very instructive to me for future contributions. Once again, thank you. I hope we get to collaborate again in the future. Warmest wishes, <font color="green">[[User:Shauri|Shauri]]</font color> [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]] <small><font color="peach">[[User_talk:Shauri|smile!]]</font color></small> <font color="black"><small>''21:14, 18 October 2005 (UTC)''</font color></small>
Regarding your latest comment at [[Talk:All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment#Requested move 24 July 2024]], just in case you're not aware of it, you might want to have a look at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Andy Dingley]]. — [[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 01:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
== links in microsoft ==
== Links removal ==
Indeed - I don't mind one way or the other but another person went through after you de-linked the lowvalue years n' stuff and relinked them again. So I guess they are important to some people :) - thanks again for the edits! <small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 02:58, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
I would like to understand why the link to [[Political corruption]] from [[Corruption in New South Wales]] was removed. It is helpful link but I don't understand the value of removing the link vs keeping the link. Could you please elaborate. Thank you otherwise. Also premier usually has capitalisation given it is a title. The script IMO is doing more harm than good without manual oversight removing assistive formatting where it was required. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 02:52, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
== Microsoft ==
== Article Styles ==
just go ahead and overwrite my changes - I'll take care of them as they were minor. <small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 03:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Each article sets it's own technical style and I am not sure why style needs to be dictated by the script. I don't think it's helpful for changing the entire article style via scripting when this is not mandated I believe by WiKi? Often the technical style is friendly to the editor who has been intensively working with it and resetting the style can bring manual overhead that gets in the way to say. And some regional, country or jurisdictional contextes may require e.g. different capitalisation e.g. for titles like "Premier" that are specific to state level in Australia. Also if the script / automation is used should IMO document it's changes in iterative edits and not in one big edit mixing them to align better with changelog. I'm not against large manual edits but don't like to get steamrolled by scripts dictating it's own style on technical styling. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 03:01, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:Don't worry about it :). Take a break and maybe come at it at a later time, its not too pressing though, so take your time :). <small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 04:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
:You're getting basic things wrong, like the "S" in your title above. And please take care with "its" versus "it's". If you want to argue about individual items in that edit (which I've reverted), please do. Have you been here for long? I don't think you've absorbed the way things are done. And BTW the opening sentence of that article needs urgent work. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
::This is [[MOS:VAR]] - please do not change the styles in entire article. Style is consistent across the article. I will stop working in Wikipedia if this continues. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 03:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I ''will'' change a style if it's contrary to WP's guidelines. Being consistent across a whole article is required, but it has to be an acceptable style. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
::::You are doing in bot-like and it is specifically against doing it bot-like manner. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 03:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Your English needs to improve before you edit WP. Most of the edits I did were manual. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 04:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::I don't want you are personally attacking me but I don't think you are being constructive. Most of your edits were stylistic in nature and changed the article wholesale. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 04:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I am having trouble with the editor as it is very annoying in it's standard mode. I just don't think it is nice to resort to personal attacks instead of raising the issues merit basis. Please fix the attitude, I don't think I am staying because of crap attitude like that. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 04:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Also mocking someone's language capabilities is just plain wrong. Making assumptions about someone's capabilities or character whilst bombing the articles with bot-like script auto-spam without edit summaries? I am not sure what the issue is really. [[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] ([[User talk:MissAnonymous123|talk]]) 04:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::{{tpw}} @[[User:MissAnonymous123|MissAnonymous123]] I've fixed some of the problems in the article. In particular, note that section headings in articles always use at least two hyphens, and then subheadings go step by step. Also "it's" means "it is", while the adjective "its", as in "his, her, its" doesn't have an apostrophe. That isn't a choice of style, it's correct writing. Punctuation goes before references: not a style choice but [[WP:MOS]]. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 05:17, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
*You need to stop editing, observe, and improve your English. I'm not mocking you. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 05:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
*:wow. You mocked an editor of wikipedia, so cool. [[Special:Contributions/99.251.114.193|99.251.114.193]] ([[User talk:99.251.114.193|talk]]) 12:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
*::*off wikipedia, sorry, I typed reply quickly as I was frustrated with how you responded to her, if you check her editor page she left wikipedia the day this happened.
*::[[Special:Contributions/99.251.114.193|99.251.114.193]] ([[User talk:99.251.114.193|talk]]) 13:00, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
== As such ... ==
==Sino-Soviet split==
Dear Tony1 and friends, over the years I have found numerous examples of the words “as such” in Wikipedia articles. These 2 words have usually been redundant so I have erased them without replacement.
Thanks for your message. It's a long time since I wrote that article and I don't know what state it's in now, and I don't much care whether it's a featured article or not. I wrote it before they days when every article had to have references. Does the Britannica have references? No. But I will see what I can do about it. [[User:Adam Carr|Adam]] 09:44, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Recently I found 2 articles in which the words “as such” were used clumsily in the first sentence of the lead section! I replaced them with what I hoped was a more appropriate word. See my [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marie_Louise,_Duchess_of_Parma&diff=prev&oldid=1240262921 diff1] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jos%C3%A9phine_de_Beauharnais&diff=prev&oldid=1240263208 diff2]. Both my edits were promptly reverted by the same User who appears to be an advocate, or at least a defender, of the expression “as such”. Am I missing something about some inherent merit in the words “as such” in formal writing?
== Image use ==
To his credit this User then left me a message on my Talk page pointing out some of my personal shortcomings. Apparently in my list of contributions to Wikipedia he can see that I have done a lot that is unacceptable but he didn’t clarify what or why. He also mentioned some of the shortcomings of medical doctors and students of medicine! See [[User talk:Dolphin51#"Encyclopaedic language"]].
Hi Tony. I saw your question at Nichalp's talk page. Chiming in for him, you can download images from other wikis and upload it to commons provided you credit the original uploader in the description page and provide a link to the original image. Also, it would be nice if you inform the original uploader and provide a link to the commons image from the original image page. However, you can do these only if the license is commons-compatible. -- [[User:Sundar|Sundar]] <sup>\[[User talk:Sundar|talk]] \[[Special:Contributions/Sundar|contribs]]</sup> 06:03, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Is this User a person in good standing with the copy editing community? Does he speak with any authority or credibility on matters of what constitutes good writing in an encyclopaedia, and what doesn’t? [[User:Dolphin51|<i style="color: green;">''Dolphin''</i>]] ''([[User talk:Dolphin51|<span style="color: blue;">t</span>]])'' 14:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
:Hi, messaging you after a long time. See here's the problem: If an image is uploaded in the en: wikipeida, it is visible only in the en:wikipedia. If it is uploaded in the de: wikipedia, it is visible only in the de: wikipedia. So you can see we'll be having duplicate images. To prevent this, we have the wikimedia [[commons:]] so that images can be uploaded to a '''common''' project, that can be linked to all wikimedia projects.
*I hadn't imagined a good use for "as such", but there it is. Very rare. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:36, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
;What can be uploaded to commons:
# Free images ONLY: ie GFDL compatible: viz:- PD, GFDL, cc-by, cc-by-sa
# Free images without English text. Therefore maps, charts etc with (English) text are not suitable.
== A new redundancy example for you, perhaps ==
To upload images there, you'd need to create an account first. If you upload an image from de: to commons, make sure you copy the information verbatim. {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 10:47, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
"'''American football''' [...] is a [[team sport|''team'' sport]] played by two ''teams'' of eleven players on a rectangular [[American football field|field]] with goalposts at each end." (bold in original, italics added by me) [[User:The ed17|Ed]] <sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 21:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
==Re: Suggestion for Peer Review advice==
:A number of problems with that sentence. Next month I hope to start renovating my tutorials at long last. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
As I am generally in favor of anything that may increase reviewer participation on Peer Review, I suggest that you place your suggestion to have submitters send a note to other contributors asking for feedback on [[Wikipedia talk:Peer review]] for others to see. The one point of concern I see is what to do when a submitter is not aware of any other Wikipedians with knowledge or interest in an articles subject matter. --''[[User: Allen3|Allen3]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Allen3|talk]]</sup> 16:46, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
::I am looking forward to seeing what that looks like! I still share them with people every few months. They're an incredible resource on and off Wikipedia. [[User:The ed17|Ed]] <sup>[[User talk:The ed17|[talk]]] [[WP:OMT|[OMT]]]</sup> 03:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
:::That's kind of you to say so. They're so old by now. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 08:02, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
== RE[[Draft:CT soundGroup excerptsViet and copyrightNam]] ==
Hello, I have removed all sections that were considered to be advertising. Please review the article again. Thank you. [[User:Nguyenkimgs|Nguyenkimgs]] ([[User talk:Nguyenkimgs|talk]]) 09:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi! [[Template:Music sample]] seems to be the fair-use tag you're after. As for your work on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers#Guidelines for using sound excerpts]], it seems very good to me. Also, it's great to see more audio creeping onto Wikipedia. :) [[User:ScribeOfTheNile|Michael]] 04:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:Isn't it "Vietnam"? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 11:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
: Hmm, perhaps [[Template:PermissionAndFairUse]] is what you're after? If that's not suitable, I believe a new tag will need to be created. As for the other template, I agree with your concerns. [[User:ScribeOfTheNile|Michael]] 06:23, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
::It is a Corporation in Vietnam. [[User:Nguyenkimgs|Nguyenkimgs]] ([[User talk:Nguyenkimgs|talk]]) 13:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:: There is a ''copyrighed, used with permission, no fair use'' template, ([[Template:Copyrighted]]), but media under such terms is no longer acceptable on Wikipedia. [[User:ScribeOfTheNile|Michael]] 11:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
== BelgiumMs. Olympia ==
Hi, i saw your edits on [[Ms. Olympia]]. Don't you think it's necessary to maintain links to the edition pages over the years? [[User:Lord Ruffy98|Lord Ruffy98]] ([[User talk:Lord Ruffy98|talk]]) 16:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Dear Tony,
I have submitted [[Belgium]] for peer review. I would like to submit [[Belgium]] as a FAC. I know you are a usual critique within this club. I therefore ask you whether you could have a look at the article before I submit it. As a non native speaker I have some doubt about the orthograph, style and grammar of this article.
Thank you
[[User:Vb|Vb]]20:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
:OK, I've reinstated them, but not as "Easter egg" links (to plain years). Let readers know the specificity or they'll never click on them. Also, please note how range dashes are done. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
:Dear Tony, Thank you very much for your copyedit! That's a great job. I love your English and your criticisms are all sound and useful. I have now changed the [[Belgium]] article according to your remarks. Don't hesitate to check this up. I'll soon remove the copyedit flag and submit the article as FAC. Yours [[User:Vb|Vb]]09:40, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
::Ok, thank you for your understanding and for the changes made. [[User:Lord Ruffy98|Lord Ruffy98]] ([[User talk:Lord Ruffy98|talk]]) 08:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Trying to understand the rational for your date changes ==
Thanks for your contributions to [[Atlantis]], it really helped clean up some of the language and made it a much better read. The article has come a long way in 2 months. Check out an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atlantis&oldid=23676787 older version]. [[User:Reflex Reaction|Reflex Reaction]] 13:28, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Just looking at the difference on your edit to [[sweet potato]] it looks like the vast majority of dates were dd-mm-yyyy and it was templated to that before your change. Shouldn't you have corrected the minority of dates to dd-mm-year, instead of changing them to mm-dd-yyyy order. What am I missing? [[User:MtBotany|🌿<span style="color:#254c00">Mt</span><span style="color:#326500">B</span><span style="color:#3e7e00">o</span><span style="color:#4a9700">t</span><span style="color:#57b000">a</span><span style="color:#63ca00">n</span><span style="color:#70e300">y</span>]] ([[User talk:MtBotany|talk]]) 04:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
== Linking query in FAC ==
:Sorry, my mistake. I'll change it now (if you haven't already). [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 04:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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:::Nice colouring on your username! [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 08:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
== Thank you for your recent edit to Subnet (mathematics) ==
Hi Tony, thanks for your suggestion. I read the pages you suggested, and I have to say that I don't think linking a term like [[lepton]] twice in the ATLAS article, once in the Physics Program section, and once waaay down in the Data Systems section, doesn't seem to contradict those guidelines. The meaning of the word is important to understand the concept, and someone who doesn't understand it the second time will have great difficulty finding the first link given the length of the article. Or do I misunderstand? -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 16:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
You changed the first sentence of the lead for [[Subnet (mathematics)]].
== [[Mário de Andrade]] ==
* old version: "In [[topology]] and related areas of [[mathematics]], a '''subnet''' is a ..."
* new version: "In [[topology]] and related areas of mathematics, a '''subnet''' is a ...".
This was absolutely the right thing to do as topology is already a broad area of mathematics and there was no need to have a link to the top level field of mathematics from a small topic within the category of topology. If a hypothetical random user lands on this particular page and wonders what this is all about, they can click on [[topology]], where they will see it's part of the large field of mathematics, with an accompanying link.
Tony, thanks for your comments at the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mário de Andrade|FAC]], and thanks even more for your edits. I understand that you wanted to get to some more edits, but I was hoping you might let me know if there's anything I can do to improve the article. The nomination seems to have stalled, and I'm concerned that it'll archived for no consensus, even though it hasn't really received much in the way of opposition. Thanks. [[User:Chick Bowen|Chick Bowen]] 17:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
I am ranting here a little, because I have edited some mathematics pages in the past to do the same change, only to see another editor put this back.
== Bach images from German Wikipedia ==
Anyway, thanks for this.
Also curious, did you have a script intelligent enough to do this automatically? [[User:PatrickR2|PatrickR2]] ([[User talk:PatrickR2|talk]]) 04:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
*We ''love'' satisfied customers. I just tested linked "mathematics" and "maths". It unlinks the former but not the latter. I'll ping [[User:Ohconfucius]], who invented and manages the composite script. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 04:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
== "All fixed"? ==
Dear Tony1, I think no one will object to the reuse of any Wikipedia image as long as the given license is respected. What is more, the particular images you mention are public ___domain. The only thing to consider is whether to move them to Wikicommons. Best regards, [[de:Benutzer:Qpaly|Qpaly (Christian)]] 08:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Tony, where I said "All fixed" at that RM, I meant the anomalies, not that the requested moves are done. It's not been closed yet. So I reverted your removal of it from [[WT:MOSCAPS#Current]]. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 05:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:Ah, sorry Dick. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 08:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
== PicturesUniversity of Parakou ==
You can have whatever you like, to me pictures are in children's book, illustrations in adult's and reference books. But I don't feel very strongly one way or the other.
Hi there! Your recent edit to the [[University of Parakou]] made some incorrect changes. Could you please check the script you're using? Thanks! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 03:39, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Spanish renaissance, especially ecclesiastic architecture was more influenced by French pilgrims visiting the numerous Spanish shrines any Arab influences that remained were suppressed, (think inquisition). How the Alhambra survived is a miracle. Philip II recalled Spanish architects from Florence to design Escorial c1570,which is based on a Roman palace (I've forgotten where, probably Spalato) Spanish architecture then became a little more restrained sort of high renaissance and mannerism, but I'm not wandering into tangents off subject, people can look these things up for themselves if they are interested. Regarding the Arabs in Sicily, their architecture tended to be geometric etc., baroque is scrolls and flows, I would discount great influence there too, even if I did think it, it's not mentioned in any of the ref. books on the subject, and one thing is for certain here, any own opinions are always found out. Regards [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 09:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:Redone. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 07:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
== Rfa/commasFIFA Arab Cup ==
Hi, I don't understand why this edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FIFA_Arab_Cup&diff=prev&oldid=1266135555 ] ? Regards. --[[User:Faycal.09|Fayçal.09]] ([[User talk:Faycal.09|talk]]) 17:28, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, fair enough: I've reverted it. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 00:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
::No problem, thank you and greetinks. --[[User:Faycal.09|Fayçal.09]] ([[User talk:Faycal.09|talk]]) 08:46, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
== Redirect listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
Hi, No I'm actually a fan of commas! They're sadly underused in much of the writing I come across. [[User:Dlyons493|<FONT COLOR="#00FF00">Dl</FONT><FONT COLOR="#44FF00">yo</FONT><FONT COLOR="#99DD11">ns</FONT><FONT COLOR="#DDDD11">493</FONT>]] [[User_talk:Dlyons493|<FONT COLOR="#DDDD11">Ta</FONT><FONT COLOR="#00FF00">lk</FONT>]] 11:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
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== The personal requests you asked ==
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== Use mdy dates for an Italian singer? ==
From the peer review for [[Architecture of Mac OS X]] you asked me:
Hi, why [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arianna_%28singer%29&diff=1013737143&oldid=998793977 this] edit? Regards.-- [[User:Carnby|Carnby]] ([[User talk:Carnby|talk]]) 13:01, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
''Two personal requests: What's the difference between 'crash' and 'hang'?''
:My edit there was nearly five years ago. And I continued the pre-existing mdy. Italy is not majority-English-speaking, so it can be either. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 00:15, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
''AND''
''How do you key in the curly apostrophe—I can only access this by keying in (ampersand)rsquo(semicolon), and would love to do it in one keystroke.''
== List of shipwrecks articles ==
:* Well, basically,...a crash is usually recoverable, while a hang isn't. When an application is crashing, it is not responding and not doing what you normally expect it to. A hang, on an operating system using cooperative multitasking will most likely make the entire system hang, and you will need to restart the OS (resulting in you losing unsaved work, we've all been there...!), but on OSes such as Mac OS X and Windows XP which use preemptive multitasking, a restart should not be required because the task/program having trouble can be terminated.
Hello Tony1 - I am concerned about the stripping out of the maritime ensigns as in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shipwrecks_in_2009&diff=prev&oldid=1271715127 this diff], citing [[MOS:INFOBOXFLAG]]. It is not clear why that recommendation would apply to a list article (these articles do not have infoboxes), but in any case that section specifically provides: {{tq|Situations where flag icons may be used in infoboxes include: ... Representing the registry of ships...}} (noting also that text should accompany them); I little doubt that there was a conscious discussion about this way back when. There are about 1300 such articles in this established format, with ongoing editing on most, if not all.
Hopefully you can agree to restore the ensigns in that article. If not, I think that this needs some discussion, perhaps at [[WT:MOSICON]], with at least a notification to [[WT:SHIPS]]. - [[User:Davidships|Davidships]] ([[User talk:Davidships|talk]]) 02:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
:* To be honest, though I'm not proud of saying this, I'm too sure about your second question. I don't use the curly apostrophe, I think the easiest way to get it, really, is to use the Special Characters palette (I see you're on Mac OS X, so yes, this is instructions for Mac OS X). Go into the Finder, and select 'Special Characters' from the Edit menu. On the sidebar, in the palette, open the Punctuation section, in there you'll find the curly apostrophe. Click on your target of where you want to insert it (wikipedia edit box, textedit, word document, etc etc), and click the Insert button in the palette.
:Aren't they all national flags? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 07:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for reverting, Tony (by the way, there were some other changes in that original edit which may well have been fine - GEO linking, over-linking and the like, are you planning to redo those?)
::Yes, they are all national flags, but are the appropriate versions used as maritime ensigns by each ship, so not neccesarily the primary national flag - so for the UK, for example, the red, white or blue ensign as appropriate for merchant/government/naval ships, rather than the Union Jack. - [[User:Davidships|Davidships]] ([[User talk:Davidships|talk]]) 13:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
:::OK, I'll have a look at the overlinking. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:33, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
== [[Cartesian other]] ==
If you don't have this option in your Edit menu, then you must be using OS X 10.2 or an even older version, and I think if I remember correctly those versions don't have the special characters palette, but instead the old Key Caps program in your Applications folder that might be able to do it.
I saw your note in this stub. Do you want to take it to [[WP:AfD]] or merge it? [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 01:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
I hope this is what you wanted.
:Hi Bearian, I don't have time at the moment. Do you want to decide and act? [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 23:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
If you need any more help, or have any more questions, feel free to ask.
== Marquis de Arronches page ==
— [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 19:17, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Tony, I am writing to you regarding Marquis de Arronches page that you recently changed the text. The previous text had citations and bibliography. was historically well structured. The new text from Milhinhos family has no references and no historical true. What can I do in order to stop violating my text that has citations, references and bibliography [[User:Miguel de Bragança|Miguel de Bragança]] ([[User talk:Miguel de Bragança|talk]]) 14:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
''Thanks for your responses to my two questions. Let me know how your OS X Architecture article goes. I wonder whether you can safely omit 'Mac' from 'Mac OS X', after the first occurrence? Tony 19:29, 26 October 2005 (UTC)''
:First you could have linked me to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marquis_of_Arronches&diff=1270974964&oldid=1267068608 diff]. My edits concerned only correcting the hyphens to range en dashes, plus delinking a few well-known places like London, which we usualy don't link on en.WP. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 23:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
:* Yes, it is often referred to as OS X, now that everyone knows of it (in the computer world). Some even write it as OSX, but I think OS X looks better. However this isn't official, Apple only seem to ever call it Mac OS X. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 19:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
== Script error ==
''Maybe you've seen the article on iMac. Various people have been tinkering with it, and I put it through Peer Review a month ago (although nothing much came up). I'd like to get it to FA standard by the end of November. Tony 19:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)''
:* Well, I've seen all the Mac articles here, I've been making a '''huge''' effort towards the [[Apple Macintosh]] article, which was a recent Article Improvement Drive nomination, and it got through, and had a week's time of being improved. I think the Apple Macintosh, summarizing the history and all the aspects of the Mac (history, cult, software/hardware, etc etc) is more important than the iMac article, and then once Apple Macintosh is FA standard, then I'll be interested in doing iMac.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tropical_disease&diff=prev&oldid=1223457608 Your script-assisted edit] from a year ago had an error that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tropical_disease&diff=prev&oldid=1274480746 I reverted]. Specifically, it deleted a table header cell. I don't know if this issue has since been fixed or even if you're the script maintainer, so please diagnose/escalate appropriately. Thanks! —[[User:NilsTycho|NilsTycho]] ([[User talk:NilsTycho|talk]]) 15:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
I must ask, since you're really good at copy-editing, can you copy-edit [[Xanadu House]], the first article I wrote for Wikipedia. It needs quite a rewrite, and I've tried to get it to FA twice and failed. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 19:44, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
::* OK thanks, that's fine. There's no rush. :) — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 20:01, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:::* Thanks for that bit of minor editing so far, I must admit its not be best piece of work ever. I wrote it rather quickly, and a rather long time ago. It is however a really great topic, and would be ideal to become an FA once its been rewritten and sorted out. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 20:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
== Delete photo on Signpost article ==
== Luto again ==
Please delete the photo of me used for "The conflict-of-interest workshop" [[:File:Conflict of interests (COI), wmcon14 berlin-001.jpg]] for [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-23/Special_report]]. No one asked me if they could take this photo or use it for press. Although I get it was a Wikipedia event, I ask you to request my privacy and remove the photo. I am trying to get the photo deleted and someone said I have to get it removed from pages it is being used first. The author of the photo supports this. [[User:Hexatekin|Hexatekin]] ([[User talk:Hexatekin|talk]]) 19:17, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi, Tony. Have you noticed that [[Lutoslawski]] is currently scheduled to be the front-page article on [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 6, 2005|Sunday 6th Nov]]? I've made some of the changes to the intro you suggested a month ago. Did you ever find references for the Bartok/Stravinsky/Prokofiev influences? - and Luto's influence on other composers' style? They should go in the article before the go in the intro. If you have any references let me know them I'll try and dig them out: I ''may'' have time to write something over the next week or so (unless you have time to do it yourself). The only thing I can think of from the top of my head where he influenced others is the use of the "curlew mark" for unsynchronised repeats of small phrases in late Britten (e.g. Death in Venice, String Quartet No. 3), and I've never seen that cited as a direct Luto influence. --[[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 10:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
:11 years ago? I don't recall, but I'm on your side. Please ask at AN/I: this is something an admin should do, I think. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 02:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
== Use of [[User:Ohconfucius/script|script]] ==
: The lead "snapshot" for the front page is just a Wiki page; it may be protected, but since I'm an admin (and it seems you may be one too soon) I can edit it nevertheless. So I figured there's no hurry to do that, I can copy the lead over towards the end of next week when we're sure it's stable. --[[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 08:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, your usage of this script on [[2023 Stanley Cup Finals]] fixed some small issues, but also de-pluralized "forwards" which in the context of ice hockey (and other sports) is a noun. [[Forward (ice hockey)]] [[User:Conyo14|Conyo14]] ([[User talk:Conyo14|talk]]) 17:14, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
== RfA - a response ==
:Thanks for fixing it: I'd never imagined that issue. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 22:58, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
== [[Francisco-Javier Lozano Sebastián]] ==
I looked over your RfA board and was wondering whom you are referring to ([[User:Giano]] or [[User:Bishonen]]). However, I don't know what to say about this since I normally don't become involved with these things. The fact that one of your antagonists is going about convincing others of their case against you (if I read correctly) is something I don't condone, but you have to realize that sooner or later conflicts are going to arise. I can't stomach conflicts myself, but I have to keep that in mind whenever I get involved with Wikipedia (an open environment with various egos fighting against one another). Nevertheless, I will be willing to support your candidacy due to your good works here at Wikipedia (and the last thing I want to see is a good user like yourself leave the project and hand this whole endeavour to the mob). I am hoping that you will not leave Wikipedia completely, that if push comes to shove you should instead take some time off ''and then'' return (a "Wikibreak" as some call it). On the upside, the RfA board doesn't appear borderline (36 support votes to 9 oppose at last count). I can't see how this could fail unless one of the people you mentioned is indeed trying to sabotage it. If there is something I missed, please fill me in on it. I'll try to help if I can. [[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] 01:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Please check [[Date and time notation in Spain]]. Regards [[User:Denisarona|Denisarona]] ([[User talk:Denisarona|talk]]) 06:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
==Regarding your RfA==
:Ah, my apologies. Note that ''had'' the formatting been mdy, it would have to be left as mdy under MOSLINK rules. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 07:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Greetings—I've run into you once or twice as part of the composers project but unfortunately I spend less time there lately, so I don't think I've interacted with you much. However, I have seen your work about and think that on the whole it is excellent; Wikipedia needs editors who have a strong eye for quality prose and factual accuracy, and who can fairly judge the merits of an article. I've seen plenty of examples of your work on that and on that basis I endorsed your request.
==Happy First Edit Day!==
However, I do think a calm approach to disagreements is important for adminship and on the basis of your recent comments on FAC and elsewhere I had to change to a neutral stand. Your editing skills and knowledge make you a real asset to the project. But people are understandably uneasy at the prospect of granting adminship to someone who reacts harshly, even under provocation. (And yes, I can clearly see what would have led you to frustration.) I've seen your stated intent to leave the project in the event that your RfA fails and I think that would be a real shame, and a great loss to Wikipedia. Particularly considering that you hadn't expressed any great desire for admin rights in the first place: it's a loss for a good editor to spend too much time on admincruft, too, and if it weren't sometimes frustrating not to be able to carry out the occasional admin task without having to ask for assistance I wouldn't want people who are almost entirely content editors to become admins at all!
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I do hope you'll reconsider your decision to leave. Whatever embarrassment you may face as a result of it will blow over and be forgotten. Particularly if you see how your words may have come off to others as frustrated for their own reasons as you are for yours, whose emotions are running high and nerves wearing thin trying to get through the FAC process. (I've done it only once myself, and as someone sensitive to criticism, it was stressful for me even though relatively speaking I didn't get much in the way of opposition.) The points you make are valid, and your criticisms needed, but you've come off harshly and I know at least one of the other editors feels like you've been dismissive toward her, whether that was your intent or not.
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If you truly do shun conflict and wish not to be immersed in it, perhaps withdrawing the nomination gracefully and quietly addressing the concerns of your opposition on their talk pages attempting to seek resolution would be a step toward that, and no one with any sense would hold that against you. I would hate to see you leave the project on bad terms over one incident that got out of hand; it would be our loss as well as yours. Respectfully, [[User:Mindspillage|Mindspillage]] [[User talk:Mindspillage|(spill yours?)]] 02:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== Re: RfA ==
Hi PacknCanes
I thought I'd alert you to the fact that User Redwolf kindly nominated me for adminship last week, which I accepted. Regrettably, this has coincided with a stouch with several huge egos whose FAC I helped on, and then critiqued after they'd trashed my entire contribution. I normally shun conflict, but here, I'm emersed in it, and I feel utterly destroyed. One of the protagonists appears to be drumming up support for his cause on other people's talk pages.
If the nomination fails Monday night, which appears likely now since the 75/25 voting balance is borderline, I'll be trashing my personal page and not returning: it's just too embarrassing and unpleasant to go on.
So, if you have the inclination, the war zone is at: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Tony1]
:Tony, I'm glad to support your nomination. Like I said on the RfA page, the more prose-hounds we have, the better. However, please don't consider the comments by Bishonen et al. to be personal attacks on you; they're entitled to their opinion just as you're entitled to yours. Remember, no opinions are wrong, but some are more right than others. :) Take care -- [[User:PacknCanes|<font color="#cc0000">Pack</font><font color=black>n</font><font color="#b80103">Canes</font>]] | [[User_talk:PacknCanes|<small><i><font color=gray>say something!</font></i></small>]] 04:59, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:::I can see where you would find it personally upsetting, yes; but remember what you're dealing with here. This is the internet. No one knows who you are on the internet. If someone walked up to you in a shopping mall, you wouldn't have any clue who they were ten ways from Sunday. So don't take it personally, because WP and the 'net in general are impersonal by definition. I concur with what Mindspillage said above here: it would be a great loss to WP if you left over this nomination. It simply isn't worth it. You're too good of a contributor to give in that easily; I do hope you reconsider. [[User:PacknCanes|<font color="#cc0000">Pack</font><font color=black>n</font><font color="#b80103">Canes</font>]] | [[User_talk:PacknCanes|<small><i><font color=gray>say something!</font></i></small>]] 05:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I do see a herd mentality at work as well. I understand entirely where you're coming from, and I can sympathize. I run a message board for hockey fans, and they tend to get really passionate in the midst of an argument...which leads to common sense going out the window, and you can guess what winds up happening. But that's not the fault of the board necessarily, just the people using it. If you avoid those people, the board itself becomes infinitely more palatable. The same thing applies here -- even if you don't become an admin, take a wikibreak for a month or so, then come back and just keep on plugging along the way you were before. I'm certainly not in this because I want to be Jimbo 2.0; I have no designs on being anything other than a FAC critic and an article contributor. I enjoy myself here and I think that I contribute enough to the site to hang around. I know that you're also a valuable contributor, so I hope that the actions of a few don't cloud the good that you've contributed to the site. Ultimately it's your call, and I don't want to presume to make it for you...but know that you have a firm backer in this corner. Feel free to drop me a line anytime; I don't mind being a sounding board...if you're not on here, my email is bleblanc at nc dot rr dot com. Here's to regaining your sanity... :) [[User:PacknCanes|<font color="#cc0000">Pack</font><font color=black>n</font><font color="#b80103">Canes</font>]] | [[User_talk:PacknCanes|<small><i><font color=gray>say something!</font></i></small>]] 06:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== RfA ==
I am glad you are up to become an administrator, Redwolf is a nice user. You certainly deserve to be an admin here at Wikipedia. Don't get too down about it, I know its not nice when your work and hard efforts are not appreciated by the majority, but thats because most of those people there think too highly of themselves. I have put my Support vote in, I don't know if it will help or not, but I hope it does. I wouldn't leave if you don't become an admin just yet, I am giving myself time for the RfA, I have a very high edit count but I think I need to do more work before I become an admin. We need you here at Wikipedia, more people like you, don't leave! :) — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 07:21, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::Don't leave tony numero uno!!! I left once, got really mad about a fight I had. Didn't make a difference to the people I was feuding with, it only made me feel bad. It's not worth it Tony. I've done good work, over 2,000 edits, or there abouts I think, made friends, supported people. You think anyone will nominate or support me? Probably not. But you have to ask yourself, does it really matter what other people think? If they think the worst of you, are they really worth worrying over & eventually dying of a heart attack at age 45? Not really I say. If you wanna talk, leave me a line. Or better still, pop round on my user page for a cup of coffee. Anyway......... [[User:Spawn Man|Spawn Man]] 08:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== RfA ==
I left the project once, too.
I think you believe passionately in improving the quality of Wikipeida, and I assure you that won't be served by your leaving. My best advice is to withdraw your RFA immediately (you yourself didn't seem terribly worried about whether it succeeds), go and take a fortnight off Wikipedia and put it behind you. There are some large egos here, and I find the best way to deal with it is to be patient: chip away, don't try and make all your changes in one go. As a sanguine eventualist, I believe there's eons of time on Wikipeida. I do think you have been treated ungratefully; but perhaps given this recent experience you may feel it would be more productive to concentrate on articles in your area of expertise.
Really, Tony, Wikipedia will be much worse off without you. --[[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 08:26, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:I also hope you don't leave. Keeping the standard of our featured articles high is a noble cause, and the quality of prose is too often something that gets overlooked - something which it seems you've done a good job of fixing. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 10:24, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
::I was unimpressed with the changes, but I let them stand and let the matter rest. My objection was only a weak one, and would have been about the only one had you not completely overreacted to mild criticism from a couple of others on that page. You so nearly came close to being overwhelmingly confirmed as an administrator, and have only yourself to blame for managing to be defeated from that point, largely for overreactions like that on my talk page. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 17:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
You're not helping, Ambi!! [[User:Spawn Man|Spawn Man]] 00:28, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Your RFA ==
Please dont leave based on having a bad RFA, hell i've failed the RFA process TWICE! ([[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Alkivar|#1]] [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Alkivar_2|#2]]) People tend to be quite obnoxious and overreaching on RFA simply because we've had people gain adminship then go psycho. While I understand where your coming from (hell I took a 3 month wiki-break after my first RFA failure) please dont assume that you wont make it through on a second or even third try. Adminship is not a "recognition" of work, but more of a tool used by editors who spend most of their time vandal-whacking. Your work is good and you have gained recognition for it by some, but please remember wiki just like the rest of life, is filled with people who sometimes take it out on others. You should know by now you cant always get along with everyone in the real world, wiki is the exact same way.
Let me leave you with one last thought i've learned since my 2 failed RFA's ... when people on RFA piss you off, dont respond, better to bitch and swear in the real world than reply in text for the whole world to see. If you bitch in the real world no one on here knows about it and cant use it against you in the future! [[User:Alkivar|<font color="#FA8605">'''ALKIVAR'''</font>]][[User_talk:Alkivar|™]][[Image:Radioactive.png|18px|]] 10:43, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:Wellm I wish you wouldn't take the RFA thing personally. We all have disagreements, but keeping it in check helps one gain adminship. During one's RFA nom, one has to be on his best behavior. Take a wikibreak, it might help you calm things down. I've seen a lot more worse noms on RFA, so please dont get disheartened. Regards, {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 19:31, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
==RFA==
I've so far ignored your comments and lies about me, but when I saw this comment of yours I laughed out loud, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ambi], you really are just a kid in a play ground, if that's how you control your own group, I pray you never get any control here. I'm pasting this comment here so I'm not accused of trying to sway the "herd" instinct, bit unfair that term - not a ploy recommended to win them round really is it? [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 15:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== RfA - More thoughts ==
Having read the latest on your RfA, I think it would be wise for you to withdraw, sadly the Oppose votes are rising more quickly than the Support votes, despite my thinking not long ago that you'd get a lot more Support than Oppose within the next 48 hours. In a few months time, and with an even better edit count, you can resubmit and you'll get more support from a wider range of people, and different people too. If you let the RfA continue I think it will only get worse at this point, especially because of the way many users are currently thinking of the situation because of your reaction, which i cannot blame you for. Whatever you do, just don't leave Wikipedia because of it. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 20:13, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
:* Well leaving WP will show you up as a coward, but I guess then it wouldn't matter. I think we need more copy editors on WP, like yourself, but not only that, even though I know I don't really know you. However, I do know that you know what you're what you're doing (Am I any making sense?) But of course it is not for me to say wether you stay or not, it is your choice. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 20:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== Please don't leave ==
Tony1, I noticed you've been frustrated at your RfA this week. RfA is certainly a frustrating and often high-tension place, which can bring out the best and worst in some people. You are a valuable editor here, and your work is deeply appreciated. You would be a great loss to Wikipedia if you did leave. I urge you to reconsider and view your RfA as constructive criticism. There's been many currently successful admins who had two, three, four, or even five attempts at RfA before passing. In either case, is adminship essential to you? You do great work, and Wikipedia is already in short supply of classical music loving people. Please reconsider your decisions. If you need, perhaps take a short Wiki-Break? Nothing cures stress like a well-deserved break. If you choose to do so, come back refreshed. I hope to see you soon. Regards, [[User:Flcelloguy|Flcelloguy]] |<small> [[User talk:Flcelloguy|A <font color = brown> note? ]]</font color>| [[User:Flcelloguy/Desk|Desk]] </small>| [[Wikipedia:Signpost|W]]<sub>[[Wikipedia:Signpost|S]] </sub> 21:06, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== Sorry ==
No, I had no idea there were any problems. Your Bach edits have been excellent. Sorry you've gotten disenchanted with the project. —[[User:Wahoofive|Wahoofive]] ([[User talk:Wahoofive|talk]]) 21:22, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== Admin vs. Editor ==
Tony, you haven't heard from me before and I haven't placed anything on your RfA. I wanted to come here to offer another viewpoint to you that might be helpful in your consideration of yourself as a Wikipedian or not.
I watched in dismay some months ago as a very fine editor virtually self-destructed on his own RfA. It is possible that his RfA would have passed; in fact when he withdrew, it was close to passing. Nevertheless, he took great offense to the comments made on his RfA and has since become very disenchanted with Wikipedia. This sounds very similar to what you have been encountering.
I'd like to offer a few pieces of advice;
*RfA, or indeed any portion of Wikipedia, is not monolithic. What has upset you on your RfA have been people, not the RfA process. I noted you were upset that people changed their votes. They have the right to do so. It's not hypocritical in any respect. RfA makes no attempts to restrict people's changes in vote any more than RfA restricts nominees ability to withdraw. The people with whom you are upset make up a ''very'' small portion of Wikipedia. I fear you are taking the negative experience you are having with a small handful of editors and expanding it to condemn all of Wikipedia. In any sufficiently large group, ANYbody is going to find people they dislike. Even Jesus got mad at people for doing stupid things. We all do. Expanding your hatred to all of Wikipedia is akin to expanding a hatred of one person you know to be a condemnation of the entire human race. It is very obvious from all the support votes that you have received that quite a number of people think very highly from you. If you have the ability to expand the hatred of a small subset of people to cover all of Wikipedia, surely you have the ability to extend the high esteem of a larger subset than the other subset of people to cover all of Wikipedia.
*The very best editor on Wikipedia can make a horrible administrator. Likewise, the very best administrator can make a terrible editor. In fact, we have a person up for RfA right now who does very little editing of articles; he self-admittedly isn't good at it. But, it's likely he will make a fine administrator. The two respective functions within Wikipedia have little relation to each other. Think of it within this analogy; two people work at a company. One is an accountant, one is a production manager. Both are paid roughly the same. Both have the same benefits. Both are held in the same esteem. If the accountant tried to be a production manager, he might suck at it and cause production to drop 30%. That doesn't make him any less capable as an accountant. Similarly, the production manager might not know the first thing about what a ledger is, but that doesn't affect his ability to be a production manager. If either of them applied for the other's job, and was not hired, do you think it would be appropriate for them to think they suck at the jobs they were originally doing? I've just spent a few minutes reviewing the oppose votes on your RfA. I have found nothing that indicates anyone feels your contributions as an editor are anything less than exemplary.
*You should never...ever...view the bestowing or refusal of admin status as any indicator of the worthiness of your contributions to Wikipedia. It is '''not''' a forum for deciding the worthiness of a Wikipedian. There are a large number of people that I have run into who self admit that they would make horrible administrators, but are fine editors. Being an administrator is '''not an honor'''. It's just a role within Wikipedia. Some are good at it. Some are not. RfA tries to ensure that those that may be ill-suited to the role do not prematurely go into that role. RfA is in part intended to help nominees understand how they can prepare themselves to be an admin, even if their RfA passes.
*There is nothing...'''nothing'''...about being an admin that opens doors either for yourself or other editors. It is precisely the opposite. Admins are given three software rights; to block people, protect pages, and delete pages and images. That's it. All of those things are actions that '''stop''' things. Having admin software rights would in no way improve your ability to improve Wikipedia.
*As a result of the above most recent comment, the nature of an administrator's work is virtually by definition going to induce conflict. Blocking someone can and does anger people. Protecting a page sometimes throws an admin right into the middle of a nasty editting fight. Deleting pages or images can really upset the people who made those contributions. The people who contribute to RfA are ''well'' aware of this. As a result, they are very keen to make sure that people who are given admin software rights have demonstrated coolness under stressful situations. Regardless of whatever anyone has said on your RfA in opposition, I can virtually guarantee you that much of the opposition is based on their perception (right or wrong) that you do not handle contentious situations well. I have not voted on your RfA nor am I inclined to. However, I did vote in opposition on another extremely contentious RfA precisely because the nominee had become so contentious in the RfA. Please take the following (and indeed all th above) in the kind respect that it is intended, as I mean no insult in any respect: In large part, your responses on the RfA have been digging your own grave, climbing into it, and then being angry that you're in a grave. Your contributions to Wikipedia have proven to me that you are well beyond intelligent enough to understand this paradox and your role in it.
Recently, a new Guide to requests for adminship has begun development. One of the elements that has been included has been an attempt to caution editors that contentious RfAs can lead to unsavory results. You can see this still-under-development guide at [[Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship]]. It might interest you to read that document in full. In particular, I would like to ask your permission to cite your RfA as a contentious nomination [[Wikipedia:Guide_to_requests_for_adminship#Things_to_consider_prior_to_accepting_a_nomination|in this section]]. Placing your RfA there is not like some hall of fame of RfAs that have gone horribly wrong. Instead, it offers a resource to potential nominees to understand more clearly what it is they may be getting themselves into by accepting a nomination. As you noted yourself, if you'd been more prepared you would not have accepted the nomination. This document isn't intended to ward people off from becoming admins. It's intended to help the nominee, the RfA process and the contributors so that the process is a good one for all involved.
There is no case to be made that because you have threatened to leave Wikipedia, you must. Staying here is not providing any proof that anyone else was right and you were wrong. Leaving doesn't prove you are right and they are wrong. Whether you stay or leave has no bearing at all on the veracity of anyone's position on your RfA. You have made outstanding contributions to Wikipedia. They are most welcome. If you decide to leave, I strongly encourage you not to make that decision in any respect related to your RfA. It has nothing to do with your value to Wikipedia. It has nothing to do with the value of your edits. It has nothing to do with how good or bad of a person you are. You already know how good or bad you are; no amount of remonstrations of kudos from people whom you've never met, are likely never to meet, and are merely electrons streaming from a screen to you should change that.
All the best, --[[User:Durin|Durin]] 23:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== About your recent decision ==
Dear Tony,
I know you have probably heard this from other Wikipedians, in different prose, many times before; however, I simply cannot survey the loss of such a valuable contributor such as yourself with equanimity, and I feel that I must add my voice to the many. RfA can seem like a horrid place; people being judgemental, critical, and unappreciative of one's efforts to make Wikipedia better. Indeed, so can much of the rest of Wikipedia; I was very much on the verge of leaving over a recent article dispute which was weighing me down.
Why didn't I leave? The answer is, that I had not encountered problems going about my business as a normal Wikipedia contributor, and that good work is definitely being done around the project. I took the view that, if I stay and do my best to help, I can make Wikipedia a better place. One can safely ignore the positively vitriolic aspects of admin rights and Wikipedia administration if one wishes, and simply remain as a contributor; also, you must remember that people in any sort of collaborative environment will invariably become competitive, and that their emotions shown towards you are most likely not targeted at you personally.
Although I expect that, to some extent, your mind is already made up to leave, I would like to please ask you to reconsider your decision. The work that you have done is both prestigious, valuable and of the highest quality; it would be a true tragedy to lose someone like you over what is in truth such a trivial matter, and also in turn to lose you as a personality around here. Remember, you have lots of friends here which you may not realise exist; although I do not feel that we have met in person, I would like to thank you very much for your hard work that you have done around Wikipedia. I am always available to talk to, if you would merely like a friendly ear to discuss matters with, and I would be honoured to receive communication from you, especially as a fellow classical music enthusiast.
I wish you all the very best, and once again thank you for your hard work.
My best regards,
[[User:NicholasTurnbull|<font color="#906040">Nicholas'''Turnbull'''</font>]] | [[User_talk:NicholasTurnbull|(talk)]] [[Special:Emailuser/NicholasTurnbull|(e-mail)]] [[WP:TINMC|(cabal)]] 23:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
== RfA closed vs. open process ==
Tony,
I've been reading some of your comments, in particular [[User_talk:Flcelloguy#RfA|this set of comments]] on Flcellogoy's talk page. I wanted to take a moment to explain why RfA is an open process rather than a closed one.
It isn't sufficient for me to just say [[Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_democracy|Wikipedia is not a democracy]]; that answer is insufficient to this and does not reflect all that Wiki means within this context. That said, it is important to understand that there is no democracy in action here. The RfA process is not an election. When someone accepts a nomination, they are not running for office. It is not a popularity contest. It is not a means by which a nominee is patted on the back for work well done. It has nothing to do with any of that.
RfA is a means by which concensus is developed regarding whether a person is reasonably suited to handling the duties of being an administrator. So far, it is the best way we have come up with that can help us arrive at a clear picture of whether a person is suitable for such tasks. Virtually by definition, it has to be an open forum so that we can openly discuss a person's abilities, limitations and likely failure or success as an administrator. If RfA were made into strictly a closed voting process, discussion of candidates would still occur, but they would instead occur in non-open forums or scattered across a variety of talk pages. This could actually end up being ''more'' divisive than an open forum format for RfAs; people could readily be accused of forming mini-cabals bent on getting their friends as admins. With an open RfA, support and oppose votes both are challenged in the open. This format helps to keep the process clean of more faults than you might imagine.
None of this is to say that RfA is without fault. It has undergone improvement, is undergoing improvement (see [[WP:GRFA]] for work in action), and will continue to undergo improvement. However, it's unlikely that it will ever be a closed process because it is not an election but a concensus gathering mechanism.
Personally, I am rather opposed to the whole notion of 'voting' within this context. It tends to breed the notion that it is an election. This undermines the process in my opinion. But, as yet, I don't know and have not seen any suggestions on metrics for concensus that would not rely on some system that used votes, regardless of what it was called.
I do think there is substantial room for improvement with regards to the entire system of RfA, adminship, and dispute resolution. There is no feedback loop in place for determining if the process is in need of improvement, where it might be failing, or if a particular failure is an exception rather than a pattern. Not having any means of determining whether our process is producing the desired results means that the process itself is lacking some basis in validity. However, coming up with such feedback loops is a very difficult, time intensive task.
I hope this helps, --[[User:Durin|Durin]] 00:15, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Mi gosh people! ==
None of this is helping Tony! All this bickering & complaining & advicing & threatening is not helping anyone! We should all just leave him be to collect his thoughts & sort out what he feels in his head, after all, in the end, all that we are left with is ourselves... I trust Tony will make the right decision for himself. But for now we should forget his blunders, accusations etc etc & let the man be! Man, I should get a counseling job... honestly... [[User:Spawn Man|Spawn Man]] 00:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey thanks, Spawnman. (I was pleased to receive advice from two of those guys, although not the threats about legal threats - and he's still going at me.) :-)
[[User:Tony1|Tony]] 00:52, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Re: Your message ==
If you want to have your user page deleted, all you need to is place a tag similar to <nowiki>{{db|Leaving project; this is my user page and I want it deleted. Thank you}}</nowiki>. It will be placed for speedy deletion then and I'm sure some admin will come along and delete it. Re; restricting voting to Bureaucrats. I think that will suffer from problems as well as they will be seen as being key masters to adminship. Wikipedia works as a community, not as a bureaucracy. I think the title "bureaucrat" is, shall we say, unfortunate :) The wiki model has always been about building consensus within the community for anyone interested in contributing to a particular area, not within a particular subset of the community. I do think we can add some guidelines to [[WP:GRFA]] to the effect that you mention above; expected behavior by all contributors on RfA. Thanks for your granting of use of your RfA on that page. I think it will help people in the long run, even if it is divisive right now. If I might suggest; I know others have made this suggestion, but I'd like to echo it: Take a wikibreak. Go wikiwalkabout :) Spring is in the air in Sydney this time of year. Take a trip out to Manly beach, and watch the tide come in while sifting wet sand through your toes. Go down to The Rocks and take in a tasty meat pie at some cafe. Go to the Opera House and throw a few dollars into one of the bagpiper's hats and tell him you're glad for his contribution to music (even if bagpipes make you climb the walls :)). It doesn't really matter what it is; go relax. You're 50 years old. You know as well as I do by this time in your life that there's nothing like a break away from something to reduce the intensity of it. You can hear a virtuoso performance of a deeply emotional movement and weep as the sounds waft across your ears. Then, just a few days removed, have a hard time remembering the depth of emotions you experienced. Brains, souls, hearts need breaks just as much as our muscles do. Come back when you've had a chance to breathe deep and put the past in the past. --[[User:Durin|Durin]] 01:26, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Glad to do what I can ==
Sorry to see that things on RfA are going so badly. Try not to take it personally, and know that there are many of us who greatly appreciate all your work around here! --[[User:Spangineer|Spangineer]]<sup>[[:es:Usuario:Spangineer|es]]</sup> <small>[[User talk:Spangineer|<font color=brown>(háblame)</font>]]</small> 01:49, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Re: your comment ==
Then withdraw, Tony. This spiral of yours may have been provoked, but you have continued it un-necessarily. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|Cyberjunkie]] | [[User_talk:Cyberjunkie|Talk]] 02:27, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
:Tony, I don't quite understand why you're content to let the RfA procede despite your misgivings. Nor why you appear to be announcing your intention to leave (and bagging Wikipedia) whilst campaigning for support. If you don't want to be subjected to the "hideous process", simply strike out your acceptance and put an end to it. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|Cyberjunkie]] | [[User_talk:Cyberjunkie|Talk]] 05:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
::Tony, I'm not quite sure what to make of your comment. It seems awfully fickle and provocative. All I have done is make suggestions to you on how to procede in a situation you clearly find distressing. You did not respond to any of them. I'm afraid you need to understand that RfA is a community process, and you need to make your intentions clear. If you don't want adminship, or if you plan to leave - as you have repeatedly stated - then you need to withdraw your acceptance. Please try not personalise my comments. --[[User:Cyberjunkie|Cyberjunkie]] | [[User_talk:Cyberjunkie|Talk]] 10:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Response from Scott ==
Tony, whatever the outcome of your RFA vote (and I don't think it's obvious either way yet), please consider not burning your bridges so that you can return to Wikipedia in future if you leave. And please try to avoid bagging Wikipedia in other forums - you know what attracted you to the project in the first place, and probably all of that is still here, it's just obscured at the moment by a more immediate experience. I've realised over the last couple of months that polishing prose to Featured Article standard or even reacting to {{tl|cleanup}} tags is something I'm not good at, so we need authors like yourself who are. On the other hand, I think I am good at working on at {{tl|merge}} and {{tl|wikify}} tags that others might not be so good at.
I didn't vote on your RFA to start with, as I was uncertain, recalling an ''impression'' of an abrupt nature. After seeing the bagging you were receiving, I went back and reviewed the edits and interactions that led to that impression, and decided I was prepared to vote '''for''' you even while others were piling the oppose votes on.
In summary, there are over 40 people here who think you are suitable and ready for admin, and several of the oppose voters have also said they value your contributions as a copyeditor. So please consider that without the admin tools, you can still do what you're good at, without being distracted by admin stuff. My own RFA looks like being unanimous, but with '''less''' support votes than you have received. --[[User:ScottDavis|Scott Davis]] <sup>[[User talk:ScottDavis|Talk]]</sup> 03:16, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
==Wikilove==
Tony - I'm sorry to have been relatively inactive in the last few weeks, during the recent contretemps on FAC and RFA, otherwise I hope I could have spread some oil on the rather troubled waters. FWIW, I agree with you that [[Sicilian Baroque]] could have done with some more copyediting before being promoted (indeed, I started on a copyedit off-line some days ago and just have not had the time to complete it), and I am a little surprised that the bad blood that has developed between you, [[User:Giano|Giano]] and [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]]. I truly value the contributions that [[User:Giano|Giano]] and [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] (and many others) make, but your contribution is very valuable too, as the positive comments on RFA testify. I don't want to rub salt into the wounds on either side, but, as am impartial observer, it seems to me that more civility, deep breaths and walking away from the confrontation on both sides would have helped in the past and would help going forward.
Please don't take the RFA stuff to heart. Among with many others (including, for what it is worth, [[User:Giano|Giano]]), I have for some considerable time thought that the RFA process is somewhat broken, having become a glorified popularity contest. When I was promoted to admin a year or so ago, it was a big deal for me. As time has progressed, I find that I can do the vast majority of wikitasks that I want to do without using admin powers. I hope you realise that the wikipedia project is not about getting the praise of others, but producing good articles, and I hope you will continue to help us to do that. -- [[User:ALoan|ALoan]] [[User_talk:ALoan|(Talk)]] 12:26, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Leaving or Staying? ==
I must ask, now that it seems a lot of the RfA dispute is over (though I know its not all over), are you leaving WP for good or have you not decided yet? I know we don't know each other, and I don't want to seem like a pest. But you're a great editor. You don't really need the admin stuff to continue your great work. I just have the thought that you have already left because you've totally blanked your user page. Well, if you have, I hope you go on to better things! — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 21:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
== Your health ==
Tony, I noticed your comment that you are "too ill to work". I really do sympathise with you; and I am genuinely worried about you. I hope you won't think this insensitive, but the active animosity which you have said you will harbour towards Wikipedia certainly won't improve your health - it won't accomplish anything to anyone's benefit, least of all yours, and I suspect you won't even find it to be personally satisfying. It is more likely to upset any friends you have here than any Wikipedians you feel angry with. I hope I can count myself amongst those friends, and you had more support votes than oppose votes on your RfA.
It looks to me like the old story of the fallen idol: Wikipedia appears to have briefly become the most important thing in your life, you felt euphoric that such a wonderful place existed, and passionate about it. Now that you have concluded that Wikipedia cannot live up to your ideal you are completely disenchanted, and angry with Wikipedia for not being the perfect place you thought it could be. You feel that Wikipedia, which must actually have been evil all along, has turned on you.
Project yourself five years into the future, and see whether you feel your life will have been better with or without Wikipedia. Then act accordingly: if you genuinely feel the animosity you have stated, then you will probably decide that the best thing to do is leave now, with no further comment, never to return. Shake its dust off your feet.
I happen to think you have been poorly treated, but no-one can reverse things now. Do me a favour and put yourself, your life, your career first for a bit. You really do have my very best wishes. [[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 11:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
== Your adminship ==
I don't see why you had to take it so personally. You've got heaps of praises for being an amazing copyeditor, you've got more supports than opposes, nobody *hates* you Tony, things would be a lot better if you had not responded to the provocative statements made in your RFA. I've also gone through hard times here, there was an editor in the past who could never collaborate in a fruitful manner. You've seen Ricardo the Texan make personal attacks against me, I *did not* respond in the same manner, and eventually it paid off, some other wikipedians took note and sounded him off. You did not handle the RFA issue in a diplomatic matter, I'd have to add. Don't take it personally, please stop thinking that we're out to get your blood, treat this as a learning experience. I know you will feel betrayed by my comments, but I believe in frank talk on such issues. Since you will be leaving wikipedia, I think I'd be really optimistic to believe you'll ever return after what happened in WP, so I wish you all the best that you do from now on. I'd also thank you once again for helping copyedit some articles and having constructive dialogues. Regards, {{User:Nichalp/sg}} 14:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
== You're most welcome! ==
Hey Tony!
No problem, I was GLAD to do it. Someone had to stand up and denounce that farce for what it was. A [[Kangaroo court]] has more decorum!!! I really hope ''they'' actually do something about the <s>ordeal</s> process. They had better, or otherwise Wikipedia will continue to hemmorage from self-inflicted wounds by losing and alienating fine editors/contributors such as you. As I said, you have my respect, Sir!--[[User:R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine)|R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine)]] 14:31, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
== Sun Yat-sen FARC ==
I've nomintated Sun Yat-sen for featured article removal. Since you originally participated in the nomination discussion, your comments are welcome at [[Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Sun Yat-sen]]. --[[User:Jiang|Ji]][[User talk:Jiang|ang]] 08:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
== Thanks ==
Firstly, I write to thank you for the constructive help you have given with the [[Charles Darwin]] article. The importance of improving the quality of writing has not been forgotten, and with some new input from others as well as additional source material, the work is in progress. I'd also like to express my sympathy about the recent stushie (Scots spelling). Wikipedia succeeds as a community with a common goal, and it's very rewarding when efforts are appreciated, but this interaction results in considerable stress from both RfA and FaC discussions, as I recently found. Having put a jokey [[Wikiholic]] tract on my user page, the following seems relevant: "Things took a turn for the worse when a "sysop" who had befriended him in the early days offered to nominate him as an admin. Flattered, he acceded to the request, even vowing to spend more time on much needed janny duties. Incautiously, he revived someone's old nomination of Charles Darwin as a featured article candidate, and was shocked to find that his repeated cropping had left a staccato style that was little liked. Fortunately a wizard from Oz began helping to edit ''Communicative musicality'' into the blighted text. While many favoured his move to admin, others mercilessly pointed out his flaws." The [[Sicilian Baroque]] article makes an interesting read, but it's disappointing that it still has some glaring grammatical errors and much of the prose is convoluted and confusing. A sad episode, and the only consolation is that "time heals all". Hope that works out for you....[[User:Dave souza|dave souza]] 18:34, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
== Hi Tony ==
That's was a pleasure for me to work on [[Belgium]] with you. I wanted to collaborate with you once again on [[Blues]] because I remembered you wrote once on your user page you were interested in music. Now I see you want to quit WP for a failed RfA. Well a good editor is not always a good admin but a very good critique surely never is. A good critique must have enemies. The best one is hated by most. I am sorry you want to quit WP. But well one cannot quit WP as well as one cannot enter it. The WP community is anonymous in essence. So if you want to edit [[Blues]] don't hesitate before I submit it for peer review. [[User:Vb|Vb]] 11:55, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
== Welcome back ==
Hello, Tony. I'm very pleased to see you return. Take it easy, ok?! Best wishes, [[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 09:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
:Seconded. -- [[User:ALoan|ALoan]] [[User talk:ALoan|(Talk)]] 11:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
::Thirded -- [[User:Dave souza|dave souza]] 11:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
:::Fourthded --[[User:TantalumTelluride|Tantalum]][[User talk:TantalumTelluride|T]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">e</span>]][[User talk:TantalumTelluride|lluride]] 21:21, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
== A big warm welcome back! ==
<big>'''Welcome Back!!!'''</big><br>
Hey Tony, '''''welcome back'''''. I'm really glad to see you're back here. I'd like to tell you a little story: Shortly after you left, I was nominated for adminship and I got turned down and pissed off about it too for a little while! RfA is scary, and I don't want to become an admin, ever. ''Anyway'', glad to see you here - And I recently got one of my articles featured, finally. I recently started my own WikiProject at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Macintosh]], you may be interested in participating in it and joining. — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 21:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
== White's grammar ==
Sorry, I have just changed it back. I really did not like starting with "because", and went overzealous and reverted the entire paragraph. I have changed "because of" to "due to". --[[User:LiquidGhoul|liquidGhoul]] 13:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
== [[Patrick White]] ==
I did the links because most other biography articles link the persons job title/occuptation and centuries are often linked. Remove them if you want, but i think it looks better with them. I haven't read any of Patrick White's novels to date, but I may in the future if I ever have the chance.
Its good to see you back here, I guess you saw my welcome message. Have you taken a look at my WikiProject at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Macintosh]] ?— [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 15:01, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
== Shostakovich ==
Hi Tony
I saw your comments posted to the Shostakovich talk page and whole-heartedly agreed with them. I was going to write you as such, but unfortunately you had left. I am happy to see now you are back and am wondering if you would have any interest in tackling the subject at some point. The article, in my view, is seriously flawed and needs to be revised from beginning to end. At any events, cheers to you on your return. [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 10:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. The main editor seems, understandably enough, quite proprietary about the page without at the same time recognising the fundamental issues that detract from the article. (This is my impression based on respnses on the discussion page.) This has deterred me from undertaking work at the moment. However, I would like to see it improved if there's some way to impress the need for revision. [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 16:23, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
That sounds like a solid plan. I'll put together a laundry list of basic concerns and pass them on (i have noted some of them on the talk page). I certainly don't want to take capricious action nor make it seem like any critciism is directed at anyone in particular; but the article is, as it stands, wanting. It reads rather like a first-year music history essay. [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 19:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Indeed, as noted above, I saw your criticisms and whole-heartedly agree with them. [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 09:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Agreed re Shost. I looked at the JSB article, btw, and I look forward to its being promoted to FAC. I had a few suggestions, which I will be happy to repeat on the FAC page. Notably, the keyboard works section is a bit slight, especially considering that this was the principal source of JSB's reputation until the Great Mass was revived by Mendelssohn. I am wondering if some attention to the 24 (a must really, given its influence), English and French Suites and/or works such as the Italian Concerto might not be better representative of JSB's keyboard writing & influence? Please let me know if you need any help. Cheers, [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 08:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
== FWIW... ==
For what its worth, welcome back. --[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|Jeffrey O. Gustafson]] - ''[[User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson/Contributions|Shazaam!]]'' - [[User_Talk:Jeffrey O. Gustafson|<*>]] 07:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
== [[Windows XP]] ==
I took a stab at fixing up the grammar and diction; can you have another look at it, please? [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
==Bach maps==
No permission necessary. You can use them just you like. -[[User:84.151.124.34|84.151.124.34]] = Hati 08:58, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore)]] ==
Hi Tony,
This is regarding your objection on the above-mentioned FAC. Please now have a look at the revised version, and see if there is any unaddressed issues.
<s>And are you sure there is [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29#Dates_linking_convention_currently_ludicrous]]? I cannot find it.</s> For headings, only names that are not in lower case are official names given by the authorities, including ''the Standard Ticket''. [[Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28dates_and_numbers%29#Dates_linking_convention_currently_ludicrous]] is not official policy.
- ''Regards'', [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 08:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
* Thank you for your feedback and copyediting on the FAC. I must admit that I had my frustrations when I first saw the objection (which I apologise in any case), but looks like things have turned out well in the end. Time to address other objections I think... ;) - ''Regards'', [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 11:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
==Re: ABC image==
Thanks. I'm avoiding real life by browsing through the [[State Library of Western Australia]] online catalogue and uploading interesting PD images to Commons. [[User:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] | [[User talk:Snottygobble|Talk]] 00:19, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:Yep, they're all above board. [[User:Snottygobble|Snottygobble]] | [[User talk:Snottygobble|Talk]] 00:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
== [[Malwa]] FA nomination ==
Hey Tony. I was wondering if you can give some inputs regarding how we can improve the prose. It would be *highly* appreciated if you can spare a few minutes and make some changes yourself. I'll go through the whole article again and try to improve any sentences that are akward. Thanks! [[User:deeptrivia|deeptrivia]] ([[User talk:deeptrivia|talk]]) 03:52, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
== Welcome back!! ==
Hi! I'm so gald to see you've returned. Hope you had a nice wikibreak. 07:54, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
== Barnstar for you! ==
[[Image:Barnstar.png|100px|left|The Original Barnstar|frame|I award you this barnstar for your work on copy-editing articles and helping to improve [[Apple Macintosh]]. Keep up the good work! [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 22:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)]]
== Merry Christmas! ==
<b><font color="green">M</font><font color="red">E</font><font color="green">R</font><font color="red">R</font><font color="green">Y</font> <font color="red">C</font><font color="green">H</font><font color="red">R</font><font color="green">I</font><font color="red">S</font><font color="green">T</font><font color="red">M</font><font color="green">A</font><font color="red">S</font></B>, {{PAGENAME}}, and a happy New Year too! — [[User:Wackymacs|Wackymacs]] 15:45, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
== Portuguese Communist Party ==
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*'''Comment''' - I requested a peer review to the article, but it was soon archived. I agree that the article should have a better wording, but I can't do the copy edit myself, I'm Portuguese and I lack grammatical knowledge of the English language. If the article has a good content and its only problem is the wording, it would be great if someone could edit it in order to fix that. [[User:Afonso Silva|Afonso Silva]] 13:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
**'''Response'''—Alfonso, you need to find someone who's good at editing to go through it. WP has a list of tried, trusted and hard-working contributors who may respond if you put the article on their list. (Well, WP ''doesn't'' have that system, but should, and needs to develop some way of encouraging word-nerds to help; ahem. Apart from raising the generally poor standands of prose in the project, it would go some way towards helping second-language speakers to contribute their valuable, specialist knowledge.) <font color=green>Can anyone hear me? echo <small>echo echo</small></font color> [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 00:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
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* Thanks for the tip, the only problem is that I don't know who are the users that may do that job. Do you suggest any user? I would be great if you could help, It's a bit frustrating hearing everyone complaining about the wording of the article and being unable to fix it. Thanks! [[User:Afonso Silva|Afonso Silva]] 12:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
== Sheffield ==
Hi! Thanks for your helpful comments on the Sheffield article. As a part of my day job I write and review scientific articles and I know that it is always easier for me to spot errors in someone elses writing than in my own. As such it is always good to have an outside opinion like yours on the text of an article. Thanks again, [[User:JeremyA|JeremyA]] 17:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
== [[User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project]] ==
Happy New Year's! Check out [[User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project]], which is a set of standards I may propose soon to help guide FACs on bands and such. I thought you might have some comments and/or criteria to add to the [[User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project#Format and style|format and style]] section. Thanks, [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 08:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
==[[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nightwish]]==
First of all, thanks for your constructive criticism towards [[Nightwish]]. It really gave something to work with. However, I believe significant changes have been made to the article since you voted oppose. Please consider review your vote, as I think you might want to change it. [[Image:Weather rain.png]]'''[[User:SoothingR|<span style="color:#AAAAAA;">Soothing</span>]][[User talk:SoothingR|<span style="color:#9AB9EB;">''R''</span>]]''' 12:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
== Panama Canal ==
Hi, I've responded to the comments you made at [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Panama Canal]]. Want to let me know what you think? Cheers. — [[User:Johantheghost|Johantheghost]] 20:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
== Michigan State University ==
[[User:Pentawing|Pentawing]] tells me that you helped him get the [[University of Michigan]] article's prose up to FA standards. Would you please look at the [[Michigan State University]] page and tell me what you think? ([[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Michigan State University|Featured article candidate page]]). — [[User:Lovelac7|Lovelac7]] 03:23, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
== Bach style ==
Hi Tony,
This is "fugueman," a sometime contributor to Wikipedia. I'm still trying to figure out how things work, haven't quite gotten the hang of the difference between talk pages, discussion, how to get messages to people, etc. Anyway, I was the one who added the lines about contrapuntal and melodic inversion to the "Bach style" section--thought I was changing the discussion page, but it changed the article.
I've since read a quite lengthy revision of the style section, which I like very much. I assume that this is yours. I did catch a couple of errors, but haven't been able to find the page to correct them. One had to do with pedagogical works. The Notebook for Anna Magdalena was not written for Wilhelm Friedemann, but for Anna Magdalena. The book pedagogical book written for Wilhelm Friedemann was the Clavierbüchlein for Wilhelm Friedemann Bach.
The second error had to do with numerology. The revision is correct in summing BACH = 14. But there was something in there about his complete name summing to 52. I'm not sure where this figure came from. JSBACH = 41. All of this is, of course, presuming that Bach used a German natural order alphabet (what Smend used), as opposed to Latin Milesian or some other form. In my own research, the only numbers that I would place confidence in are the 14 (BACH), 41 (JSBACH), and 43 (CREDO). I would not place confidence in the German natural order sums for SEBASTIAN BACH (100), JOHANN BACH (72), or JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH (158)
I want to commend your work on the article. My interest is to contribute in whatever way I can.
Cheers
fugueman
== Reply ==
Be nice to you Tony? - I'm nice to everyone....usually. This does not stem from your remarks on my articles but from the fact you took offence at a light hearted flippant remark (yes - it probably was flippant) and blew it out of all proportion. I do feel you to force your views on style and content on others, sometimes in a sarcastic and offensive way, and then become quickly angry, and that's pity as I'm sure you have a lot to offer. My mannerisms obviously irritate you too. The problem is we both visit FAC so our paths are going to cross, and it seems inevitable we shall sometimes have opposing views on a page - I see yesterday we differed over "song titles". I shall endeavour to (when necessary) "oppose" you without referring to you - we may even agree who knows!
On a lighter note: I'm sure Ghost's input in our quarrels are as embarrassing to you as they are amusing to me - who needs enemies? All I can do is endeavour to stay out of your way as much as possible, and hope that we can learn to exist with each other on the same encyclopedia. I'm not pasting this into the Beethoven pages, as there is enough spectacle there already - you can if you want to - those interested can always see it here, if they are that interested. [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 09:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:*I am the master of sarcasm - you'll find that very hard, believe me. Not too much humble pie please - it doesn't suit you. ;-( [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 10:31, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::*You're going to need some indigestion tablets in a minute [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 10:37, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
==Hi==
Happy New Year, and a belated welcome back. Since I appreciate your feedback - I was hoping you'd have a read through [[G. Ledyard Stebbins]] - evolutionary biologists are my current interest - and I am completely lost when it comes to s' and 's.--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 03:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:I'd believe it, I will try and write up something more than a stub later tonight.--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 04:45, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
== Bach ==
Hi:
I added the infobox as it's something that a lot of bio articles have. The biobox is meant as a high level overview of the subject and boils down to the date of birth/place of birth and date of death/place of death. In Bach's bio, it wasn't all that clear where he was born or died in the article text itself. I have no vested interest in keeping or deleting. I would say that if you removed the biobox template, then add the info in it to be more distinct in the article text. Please review articles like [[Rosa Parks]], [[Isaac Newton]], [[Mahatma Gandhi]] where the bio box is used. There are hundreds of bio articles that feature this biobox and as mentioned, the info in it gives the viewer a quick glance into who the subject is. --[[User:speedoflight|speedoflight]] | [[User talk:speedoflight|talk to me]] 04:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the reply back. You will find that there's an info biobox of some kind for a lot of bio articles, particularly concerning important figureheads like presidents, kings. Even [[Princess Diana]] has the bio box. Check out [[Bill Clinton]] for example on the template for presidents. --[[User:speedoflight|speedoflight]] | [[User talk:speedoflight|talk to me]] 04:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
::: Fair enough about the Germany issue. But I will tell you this, looking at it from an objective standpoint and from that given to me by a couple of people who have reviewed the Bach article...it does not help the user understand very quickly as to where the composer was born or died. You have to dig and dig through the article and still not quickly get the idea of where he was born or died. This is not true with some other articles like [[Rosa Parks]], [[Mahatma Gandhi]], [[Princess Diana]] where you very quickly get a sense of who that person is by where they were born and when they were born, etc. The infobox really helps a user get a quick glimpse of that person. IMO, the Bach article needs copy editing and re-writing. --[[User:speedoflight|speedoflight]] | [[User talk:speedoflight|talk to me]] 17:03, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
:::: You make a good point about national boundaries in a pre-20th century era. As such, it's probably good to leave the country out. However, I think the infobox does become very useful to obtain a glimpse of the subject. I am not a Bach expert and can't help you much on re-writing of the article. I can however, can you from the perspective of someone who doesn't know Bach well that when I went there, it was hard for me to figure out where he was born or died, etc. One may argue that birth/death places may not be all that a subject is about but it quickly gives you a bearing of the person. It also adds an element of interest to the person because there are many people who traveled far and died in another country from where they were born. [[Princess Diana]] being of one such example. I think it's OK to have a rough article and then continue to refine it. I contributed heavily to the [[Rosa Parks]] article and at first, it was rough and after much polishing, it got to where it is. The one thing you might want to add in more for the Bach article is referencing (APA and Harvard style). It really helps to validate that what is displayed is factual. My pet peeve about Wikipedia articles is that there's not enough referencing done on articles. As you know, this is very important when people want to use Wikipedia as a research reference. We did a ton of referencing for the [[Rosa Parks]] article and as a result of the quality of the article, it got displayed as a Featured Article in December 2005. Let me know how I can help with the Bach article. --[[User:speedoflight|speedoflight]] | [[User talk:speedoflight|talk to me]] 23:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
::: Re: referencing. Technically, any borrowed thought/idea, phrase or language that is borrowed from any other source needs to be referenced so that it's not considered as plagiarism. I've also found that referencing also helps ensure that people are not adding in hearsay, etc. I'd be glad to help with copy edits, referencing, etc. if you need help. Maybe when the article is cleaned up, it can be suggested as a Featured Article (FA). I know that the latest FA articles have a lot of references. Regarding "German". I think you are very right about being careful about national boundaries. I think that "German composer and organist" does help someone formulate an idea of who he was. Are you specifically interested only in Bach or are you also looking at other composers, i.e. Chopin, Mozart, etc.
== WikiProject Neuroscience ==
Tony: You helped us out a ''lot'' when [[cerebellum]] was nominated for FA status. I'm trying to revive [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Neuroscience]] to improve the quality of neuro-related articles. I realize you're not a neuroscientist, but I feel that having someone who isn't a specialist over there would benefit us greatly. I trust (and like) your editing style, so I was hoping you'd join us where you can. What do you say? 05:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
*I totally understand the real-life commitments. I'll give you a holler when we may need some help. Good luck with the grant apps! [[User:Semiconscious|<font color="#6D603B">Semiconscious</font>]] · [[User talk:Semiconscious|<font color="#6D603B"><small>talk</small></font>]] 21:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
== Ciao ==
So Antonio what do you know about Australian architecture? - Seriously I know very little in spite of an article I am half working on, but if ever a page needed assistance from you it's this one [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Australian_architectural_styles] a little gentle guidance would not come amiss, before they spend too much time on the wrong track - and in your own back yard too (so to speak to). Regards [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 21:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
::PS: Oh yes and I see that foul bio box has a reference here - why don't you vote to get rid of it here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Infobox_Biography]. [[User:Giano|Giano]] | [[User talk:Giano|talk]] 22:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
== Australian architectural styles guidance ==
Hi further to your comments at [[Talk:Australian architectural styles]], I have had a bit of a go at the intro. Any guidance, particularly on article organisation and scope would be much appreciated. Regards--[[User:AYArktos|A Y Arktos]] 21:02, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
== RESTRICTED ACTIVITY ON WP UNTIL EARLY MARCH ==
For the next seven weeks, I'll be able to visit WP only on a restricted basis because of work commitments. After the grant-application deadline on 3 March, I'll probably be able to undertake larger chunks of editing. [[User:Tony1|Tony]] 23:41, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
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== Misbehaving script ==
Thanks for uploading '''[[:Image:Bach's apartment in the Thomasschule.jpg]]'''. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the [[copyright]] status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.
If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{tl|GFDL}} to release it under the [[GFDL]]. If you believe the image qualifies as fair use, please read [[Wikipedia:Fair use|fair use]], and then use a tag such as {{tlp|fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use]]. See [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags]] for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.
If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "[[Special:Contributions/{{PAGENAME}}|my contributions]]" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on [[wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images.2FMedia|criteria for speedy deletion]]. Thank you. [[User:David Newton|David Newton]] 23:37, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
:In answer to your question about copyright term, the date of demolition of the building means that it likely is out of copyright, but it is not guaranteed to be. The key questions:
# When was it taken (obviously in 1902 or before)?
# Who was it taken by?
# When did the person who took the photograph die?
# When was it first published?
:If it was published before 1923 in the United States then it is public ___domain there. If the author died over 70 years ago and the photograph was published in their lifetime it is public ___domain in most of the world (but not necessarily the United States). If the author died less than 70 years ago then it is still in copyright in those countries that have a term of copyright of life of the author plus 70 years. If the author died over 70 years ago and the photograph was first published after they died then it is potentially still in copyright in most places. To get a definitive answer to the copyright question we need to know the answers to these questions.
:BTW it's usual on Wikipedia to sign and date your posts using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of the post. [[User:David Newton|David Newton]] 18:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Epaminondas]] ==
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that [[Epaminondas]] has been thoroughly copy-edited by another user. I hope this will address your concerns. --[[User:Robth|Robth]]<sup>[[User Talk:Robth|Talk]]</sup> 20:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
== Need some help with copyediting ==
Hey Tony,
I noticed that you're good at copyediting, and I was wondering if would be able to help us out with the [[Kerala]] article. It's up for [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kerala|FA]], and as mentioned on that page, "a light copyedit is needed". So, would you be able to help? Thanks. --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 05:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
:Ok, no problem. Thanks anyways though! --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 09:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
== Bach and Germany ==
I think you are right to raise the issue, although I am not sure whether I like having "Germany" in there or not. It makes things clearer to the casual, uninformed reader about where Bach was from, but it also may not be accurate. For example, the [[Hanseatic League]] gives me pause about this matter, because [[Lübeck]] proudly proclaimed its semi-independence through the 1800s. I don't know, really; I'd rather ask a German historian. But it's good to consider. It looks like the anonymous user has brought up the issue on the talk page now. -[[User:Sesquialtera II|Sesquialtera II]] 03:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
== Bach To do list/Naming ==
Most of the edits your script made to [[Conservation and restoration of copper-based objects]] looked fine. Unfortunately it also bolded paragraphs, and I am not convinced about the table reformatting it did. I reverted them all rather than reverting a few by hand; please debug your script. [[User:Ldm1954|Ldm1954]] ([[User talk:Ldm1954|talk]]) 14:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi Tony I though I would help out the Bach article by getting some fo the sub (daughter) articles out of the way. Currently there is a redlink to the [[JS Bach (works for harpsichord)]] and [[JS Bach (works for organ)]]. Should these be combined into a single [[JS Bach (works for keyboard)]] with links to individual compositions of note? Also, I have started to sort out the mess of individual articles on the more notable keyboard works and a single nomenclature style is absent. I have used as follows: Composition Name (BW #(s)), but it may be better to rename them to something like JS Bach - Composition - BWV, or Composition Name - BWV (JS BACH). Any thoughts? The naming style should ideally apply across all works. (I apologise if there is a standardisation of which I am unfamiliar). [[User:Eusebeus|Eusebeus]] 06:24, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry about that. Pinging the script manager: {{ping|Ohconfucius}}. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 01:18, 11 August 2025 (UTC) PS Ohconfucius, also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Knorr_%28brand%29&oldid=prev&diff=1304801863 this one]. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 02:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
== Edits to [[Cryptogram of Olivier Levasseur]] ==
== Be careful! ==
I am not sure whether you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katy%C5%84_massacre&diff=37024261&oldid=36976348 were using] a script or doing it manually, but in your edit you broke one ref/note and three ilinks (containing dates).--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 02:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi @[[User:Tony1|Tony1]]. Some of the edits you made to [[Cryptogram of Olivier Levasseur]] have made the quoted sections lose their line breaks. The numbered sections {{tq|1.}} etc are supposed to quote La Roncière's book verbatim. They have now lost their ellipsis' and line breaks. I always [[WP:Assume good faith|assume good faith]] so I assume these edits were not intended to break the article. Please could you review your edits? Thank you! [[User:11wallisb|<span style="color:#d3b683; text-decoration:underline;">11WB</span>]] ([[User talk:11wallisb|talk]]) 03:25, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
== Tippett ==
:Fixed, I hope. Thanks for letting me know. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 03:34, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
::The line breaks are fixed, thank you for this! (The ellipsis' can be restored any time, they aren't a major concern!) [[User:11wallisb|<span style="color:#d3b683; text-decoration:underline;">11WB</span>]] ([[User talk:11wallisb|talk]]) 03:42, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
== Script errors ==
Hi, Tony. Yes. Tippett definitely wrote some masterpieces (I particularly love the Triple Concerto, the fifth String Quartet and the slow movements of his 2nd and 3rd Symphonies). If I have time I'll lend a hand with the article. By the way, it appears the Messiaen article was promoted to featured status today. There are still a few improvements I'd like to button down, but I was quite thrilled with some of the positive feedback on the article. Now that the ''urgency'' brought on by its FAC (which I hadn't expected) has passed, I will be gradually looking at improving it further over the next couple of months. Best wishes, [[User:RobertG|RobertG]] ♬ [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 14:50, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Hello, Your script is breaking gallery syntax it encounters by removing the linefeed separating files. Each file MUST start on a new line, otherwise it is considered a second caption of the preceding, which is invalid image syntax and a tracked syntax error, not to mention breaks the display of these galleries. See [[MW:Help:Images#Gallery_syntax]] for gallery syntax explanation/examples. This issue occurred this evening on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honey_bee&diff=prev&oldid=1305278125 Honey Bee], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republican_Party_(United_States)&diff=prev&oldid=1305278305 R party], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lavandula&diff=prev&oldid=1305278406 Lavendula], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andy_Warhol&diff=prev&oldid=1305279351 Andy Warhol], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flag_of_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=1305279753 Flag US].
== Cape Horn FAC ==
If you could update your script to not remove gallery linefeeds, that would be appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Zinnober9|Zinnober9]] ([[User talk:Zinnober9|talk]]) 03:59, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks. Halting all script operations until this can be fixed. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 08:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
== Czech stations ==
Hi Tony, I believe I've addressed all your comments regarding the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cape Horn|Cape Horn FAC]]. Since you're still '''object''', I was wondering if you have any further comments? — [[User:Johantheghost|Johan the Ghost]] [[User talk:Johantheghost|<sub>seance</sub>]] 12:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
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== spelling ==
I remember a discussion on this a while ago ([[User talk:Colonies Chris/Archive/2020/Jun#French railway stations, etc|here]]), which you contributed to; I’ve opened a discussion on this at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Czech stations|WT:Trains]], if you wish to comment. Regards, [[User:Moonraker12|Moonraker12]] ([[User talk:Moonraker12|talk]]) 17:51, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
yes i realize there are places outside the U.S.A. what i did not realize was that they spelt things diffrently. Now i do know that and i will not do it again. [[User:Jakken|Jakken]] 18:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
:Sorry Moonraker, I've been away, and now I've got a bad respiratory illness. I might find the strength to operate the scripts, but not much else. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 07:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::M [[User:Doyle7q0|Doyle7q0]] ([[User talk:Doyle7q0|talk]]) 20:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Well thank you for replying. I’m sorry to hear of your illness and I wish you well; Regards, [[User:Moonraker12|Moonraker12]] ([[User talk:Moonraker12|talk]]) 23:11, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
::[[File:Tournesol.png|33px|link=]] <!-- Template:WikiThanks -->Hope you feel better, Tony [[User:Kingsacrificer|Kingsacrificer]] ([[User talk:Kingsacrificer|talk]]) 10:42, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
:::I do, Kingsacrificer. I think I'd like to play you a game of chess. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 11:18, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
::::haha that would be fun. Send me a request on chess.com (69kingsacrificer) [[User:Kingsacrificer|Kingsacrificer]] ([[User talk:Kingsacrificer|talk]]) 12:23, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
:::Checkmate [[User:Doyle7q0|Doyle7q0]] ([[User talk:Doyle7q0|talk]]) 16:25, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
== Ellipses in bibcodes ==
== [[User:Taxman/Featured article advice|Featured article advice]] ==
Hi Tony, just wanted to let you know that the script you're running, e.g., on [[Tornadoes in Alabama]] (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tornadoes_in_Alabama&diff=1312502973&oldid=1307953729), is breaking bibcodes by replacing three periods (...) with an ellipsis ({{unichar|2026}}).
Ok, you've been needling me to fix that up, so I have done what I can. I don't have quite the grammar guru skills you do, so if you could have a go at it or let me know what it needs, I would appreciate it. - [[User:Taxman|Taxman]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Taxman|Talk]]</small></sup> 15:50, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks and happy editing! [[User:Snowman304|'''Snowman304''']]'''|'''[[User talk:Snowman304|'''talk''']] 03:48, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
== FMP ==
:Thanks, Snowman. I've messaged {{ping|Ohconfucius}}. [[User:Tony1|<b style="color:darkgreen">Tony</b>]] [[User talk:Tony1|<span style="color:darkgreen">(talk)</span>]] 05:46, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
== Does changing the date in access-date of references really make sense? ==
Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the [[Wikipedia:Featured Music Project]] by signing up on the [[Wikipedia:Featured_Music_Project/Status#Participants|status page]]. What you'd do is sign up for one (or more) of eight categories, such as the discography or lead section. No more than once a month, you'd be given an article which is getting close to being ready for [[WP:FAC]], and is only deficient in a few categories. You'd do what you can in your section (and, of course, anything else you like). If a couple of people specialize in each category, we should be able to take some concrete steps towards improvement on a wide range of articles. In addition, you can sign up as a "shepherd" to take articles that meet all the criteria through a peer review and (hopefully) successful candidacy. [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 04:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your edit on [[Kayah i Bregović]] because I don't think so. [[User:Akeosnhaoe|Akeosnhaoe]] ([[User talk:Akeosnhaoe|talk]]) 16:48, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
== Date links ==
:{{tpw}} @[[User:Akeosnhaoe|Akeosnhaoe]] He didn't change any dates, just the format of them, which may not be necessary but is certainly not harmful. The rest of his edit was valuable, removing several instances of overlinking. I have reverted your reversion because it left the encyclopedia in a worse state. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 22:33, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Since you have taken an interest in date links. Please be kind enough to vote for my [[Wikipedia_talk:Bots#Bobblebot|new bot application]]. [[User:Bobblewik|bobblewik]] 20:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
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