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==Proposals, February 2012==

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=== NEW PROPOSALS ===

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===More splits from {{cl|Pyralidae stubs}}===

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Looks like the Pyralinae will also support a split by tribe. Might as well tag once and be done with it:

* {{tl|Endotrichini-stub}} / {{cl|Endotrichini stubs}}

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* {{tl|Pyralini-stub}} / {{cl|Pyralini stubs}}

Templates to be built first, with categories to follow, if size allows. [[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 12:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Ser Amantio di Nicolao]]</fontspan>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' with cat-tree integrated into the genus proposals below. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:06, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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===Genera split off from {{cl|Pyralidae stubs}}===

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While working on the previously requested Pyralidae split, I discovered that there were about a dozen genera that can each fill or nearly fill a category of their own. Propose templates for each of these genera, and categories for the larger ones:

* [[Epipaschiinae]]

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*** {{tl|Homoeosoma-stub}} / {{cl|Homoeosoma stubs}} (63 P)

These 11 genera alone account for nearly 900 articles! [[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 12:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Ser Amantio di Nicolao]]</fontspan>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 03:58, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

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=== Mobile software ===

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Over in [[Category:{{cl|Software stubs]]}}, I've came across several articles about mobile software, especially third-party Android software, that doesn't fit into any existing stub category beside the one it's already in, such as [[Agit (software)]]. I'm not sure if there are enough articles for a new stub category, but I think that it's a general enough topic so that editors exist who could improve these articles.--[[User:Yutsi|<b>Yutsi</b>]] [[User_Talk:Yutsi|^{<small>'''Talk'''</small>}]]/[[Special:Contributions/Yutsi| <small>'''Contributions'''</small>]] 16:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

(fixed category reference above)--[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 02:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

:{{cl|Software stubs}} is oversized (>900 articles) so I support a template - and a category if 60 such articles can be found. I presume a second parent category would be {{cl|Telecommunications stubs}}. What about a name though? {{tl|telecomm-software-stub}} (as intersection of {{tl|software-stub}} and {{tl|telecomm-stub}})? [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 21:11, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

::Support also. {{cl|Mobile technology stubs}} / {{tl|mobile-stub}} are an obvious parent I think, so {{tl|mobile-software-stub}} would be my name suggestion. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 23:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

:::Seems a better choice, and fits the permcat {{cl|Mobile software}}. CatScan puts [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Mobile+software&basedeep=3&mode=ts&templates=asbox&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en 351] tagged articles in three levels of that permcat so {{cl|Mobile software stubs}} would make a viable stub cat. [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 14:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Ser Amantio di Nicolao]]</fontspan>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Iran county geography templates===

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I have received word that there is a push to create articles for each of the villages in Iran. In order to avoid later stub sorting, please approve the creation of county-level templates, and potential category names for when the templates reach maturity.

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:Support, this will save a lot of rework. Thanks, Dawynn for taking the initiative! [[User:Carlossuarez46|Carlossuarez46]] ([[User talk:Carlossuarez46|talk]]) 23:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Ser Amantio di Nicolao]]</fontspan>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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==={{cl|Ardabil County geography stubs}}===

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:Looks good. [http://www.awrpc.org/ Here] is a html version of the map without the extra MPO lines. '''Support''' --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 07:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

::After further thought, it's really OR to declare a South Central region ourselves, and a quick search shows several organisations use "South Central Wisconsin" - none appear to match the 6 counties listed. It might be better to leave those 5 spare counties upmerged to the main category until they can have their own category? (So support all except SCW, undecided about it) --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 01:43, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

:::I '''oppose''' these intermediate subdivisions of the state. There is no standard county regional groupings in Wisconsin for the counties Wisconsin - making this method POV or possibly even OR. For example, east central Wisconsin almost always includes Manitowoc and Sheboygan counties. Sheboygan county is often added to the southeastern Wisconsin grouping too. The standard method for organizing lists of counties in Wisconsin (on Wikipedia) is to list all 72 counties right under the state category and sort by county name. 72 is not too high of a number to look through so why promote someone's non-standard subdivision method? WikiProject Wisconsin has not be alerted to any subdivisions of the Wisconsin-geo-stub template so I have notified them. '''[[User:Royalbroil|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#000000;">Royal</span>]][[User talk:Royalbroil|Royal]]</font><fontspan colorstyle="color:#FFCC00;">[[User talk:Royalbroil|broil]]</fontspan>]]''' 05:10, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

::::You're absolutely right that 72 is not a large number to look through. The problem is the over 1600 articles in the parent category -- more than double the size we strive for. And I will also agree that I have not seen a consistent division of the state, even amongst the various governmental bodies. I was just trying to find some kind of division to make this category more manageable. I will leave the discussion open for now for others to weigh in. [[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 13:09, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

:::I agree with Royalbroil-there is no intermediate subdivisions in Wisconsin. This should be taken to the WikiProject Wisconsin discussion page. Thank you-[[User:RFD|RFD]] ([[User talk:RFD|talk]]) 01:46, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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:* {{tl|NewZealand-royal-stub}} and {{tl|NewZealand-noble-stub}} : As far as I could tell there aren't really nobles, and only a very small number of Royals, which all would currently fall under {{tl|maori-stub}}. Perhaps a new {{tl|maori-bio-stub}} would be more appropriate?

: -- [[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 02:53, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' as needed. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:Old English Text MT;">[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|Ser Amantio di Nicolao]]</fontspan>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

===Split of {{cl|Pyralidae stubs}}===

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===Split of {{cl|Hebei geography stubs}}===

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Propose category and templates at the prefecture level. Should average about 250 pages per prefecture.

* {{tl|Shijiazhuang-geo-stub}} / {{cl|Shijiazhuang geography stubs}}

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[[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 16:37, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' -- [[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 07:19, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Flemish painter stubs}}===

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For more detail, please see [[:Category talk:Flemish painter stubs]]. This category has become overly inclusive because of the lack of other Flemish artist categories. {{cl|Flemish painter stubs}} includes eight Flemish engravers and one illustrator, none of whom appeared to be painters. It also includes several multidisciplinary artists who were sculptors, illustrators, engravers, architects, and draughtsmen in addition to being painters. At the same time, the criteria of "mainly active between 1581 and 1830" excludes earlier Flemish painters.

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::*{{cl|Flemish painter stubs}} would then be a subcategory to {{cl|Flemish artist stubs}}; plus remove or alter the "mainly active between 1581 and 1830" verbiage.

::[[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 08:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Lorestan Province geography stubs}}===

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There are 10 counties in Lorestan. That averages to nearly 300 articles per county:

* {{tl|Aligudarz-geo-stub}} / {{cl|Aligudarz County geography stubs}}

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:'''Support''' --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 13:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' [[User:Carlossuarez46|Carlossuarez46]] ([[User talk:Carlossuarez46|talk]]) 17:53, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:34, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Catalonia geography stubs}}===

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With only 4 provinces, this should mean about 250 articles per province:

* {{tl|Barcelona-geo-stub}} / {{cl|Province of Barcelona geography stubs}}

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[[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 12:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 13:11, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Belgaum district geography stubs‎}}===

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Looks like the Taluk is the next level. Should average to over 100 articles per split:

* {{tl|Athani-geo-stub}} / {{cl|Athani taluk geography stubs}}

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[[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 12:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 13:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Ardabil Province geography stubs}}===

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===Telephone number stubs===

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Propose {{tl|telephone-number-stub}} and {{cl|Telephone number stubs}} as child of oversized {{cl|Telecommunications stubs}} to hold over 150 'Telephone numbers in foo' national articles. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 06:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

:{{tl|telephone-number-stub}} or {{tl|telephonenumber-stub}} (is it really related to {{tl|number-stub}}/{{tl|num-stub}})? Support, {{cl|Area code stubs}} seems a natural child cat. [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 15:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks again - I'm going to get the hang of noticing those stems eventually. We don't have a 'phone' or 'telephone' stem either (but oddly enough do have 'mobile'). So {{tl|telephonenumber-stub}} is probably better. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 23:19, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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=== Festival stubs ===

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Propose reducing oversized category {{cl|Festival stubs}} with:

*{{tl|Theatre-festival-stub}} and {{cl|Theatre festival stubs}} (~101)

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*{{tl|Food-festival-stub}} upmerged

-- [[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 07:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 16:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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==={{cl|Twin Cities, Minnesota geography stubs}}===

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===India structure templates by state===

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Think we could do with the following:♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 20:30, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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:We split many other countries by state so I don't see why not. [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 18:54, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

::'''Reject'''. I had a look through the {{cl|Building and structure stubs}} tree, and it seems only parts of USA and Canada split structures by state, and then only because it was still oversized after splitting by building type, which is where all other oversides countries have started. {{cl|Indian building and structure stubs}} is still pretty small and looks like theres more sorting by building that can be done (eg, churches, jails) before we resort to these. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 13:30, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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===Split of {{cl|Korean film stubs}}===

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===Internet Meme Stub===

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A stub as {{tl|internet-meme-stub }} or similar.

I also propose protection for articles written under this as articles about Internet memes on Wikipedia tend to be vandalized or nominated for speedy deletions.

:A search for Internet memes with under 2500 bytes gave 44 Internet memes and 15 Viral videos, so plausible. Either {{cl|Internet stubs}} or {{cl|World Wide Web stubs}} could be parent. But it could be problematic - if a stub isn't clearly a meme, it doesn't revert to being an internet stub (it could be a song, or a picture, or a person, etc). --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 13:47, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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=== Anime stub types ===

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*1. Creation of {{cl|Anime OVA stubs}} for {{tl|anime-OVA-stub}} as a subcategory of {{cl|Anime and manga stubs}}. Currently, {{tl|anime-OVA-stub}} and {{tl|anime-film-stub}} both feed {{cl|Anime film stubs}}, which has now matured to have >90 instances of each template, but I think the OVAs would be better placed under the main category. (Also neither of the templates are currently listed in the main stub list, but I didn't relise that until I was done populating them)

*2. Creation of {{tl|anime-org-stub}}, and {{cl|Anime and manga organisation stubs}} if >60 articles, to contain the various companies, studios, distributors, societies, awards, or websites. I suggest -org- rather than -company- because the latter three aren't neccesarily companies.

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*5. Any ideas on the best way to subcategorise the manga stubs? There are over 500 manga stubs in {{cl|Anime and manga stubs}}, most purely for manga, others for manga/anime, or manga/game, or manga/novel, or so on, and looking at the {{cl|Manga}} subcats the best I can think of to draw some out of that pile is the 'by demographic' subcat tree, which seems in contrast to the anime having been drawn out into film/OVA/series. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 06:40, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

:Suppport 1-4. Not sure about 5 either, looks a bit tricky.

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