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==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Kit Malone]]==
Old talk at [[/Archive1]], [[/Archive2]], [[/Archive3]], [[/Archive4]], [[/Archive5]], [[/Archive6]], [[/Archive7]], [[/Archive8]], [[/Archive9]], [[/Archive10]]
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A tag has been placed on [[:Kit Malone]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
<blockquote>[I am the person this page is about. It contains personal information that is currently being used to target my family. Please remove, for our safety.]</blockquote>
== Mentorship ==
Under the [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|criteria for speedy deletion]], pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
I've been thinking about it, and I agree. I'll do it. [[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]<sup>([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])</sup> 05:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Kit Malone|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Kit+Malone|deleting administrator}}, or if you have already done so, you can place a request [[WP:RFUD|here]]. <!-- Template:Db-reason-notice --> [[User:Kitchen666|Kitchen666]] ([[User talk:Kitchen666|talk]]) 01:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
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== November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event! ==
Could you review my edit of the history section on the [[Pottery]] article? It's currently at [[User:Brunnock/Pottery]]. --[[User:Brunnock|Sean Brunnock]] 18:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
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I created a redirect page at [[User:Uriah923/ON]] to fix redlinks on pages such as [[Talk:Conventional warfare]]. I suppose this would help an SEO attempt a tiny bit, but I don't think its a problem.
* Friday, November 22, 2024
How do you like Reed? I'm thinking about applying. Is the reputation for "extreme academic workload, a sink-or-swim social ethic, and a reputation for heavy recreational drug use" ([[Reed College]]) accurate? I don't mind a "reputation as politically left-wing," but are other viewpoints encouraged and welcomed? And how did you get your parents to let you go to such a crazy place? You can email me or reply here. Thanks, [[User:Iamthejabberwock|TheJabberwock]] 04:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
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<s>Another thing: could you do something about [[Special:Contributions/207.104.144.2|24.97.210.40]], who keeps adding useless, nonnotable info to [[Corn nut]]? I've already reverted his edits 5 times in the past few months. [[User:Iamthejabberwock|TheJabberwock]] 04:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)</s>
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You moved this into the "motion to close" section on [[Template:ArbComOpenTasks]], but you have not actually moved to close the case. Thanks, [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 11:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
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:Hrm, Mindspillage confused me by motioning and then reverting herself. :-) [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 19:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for the release -- appreciate the prompt attention. Best wishes. [[User:WBardwin|WBardwin]] 08:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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Should I just say "Ditto?" Thanks for keeping me on your watchlist. Best....... [[User:WBardwin|WBardwin]] 07:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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Oops... forgot to check the AOL ranges. Thanks for unblocking it. ([[User:ESkog|ESkog]])<sup>([[User talk:ESkog|Talk]])</sup> 12:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
==Your implementation notes for the Tony Sidaway case==
You say "Only proposed enforcement 1 passes." I believe it only has five supporting votes and two opposes, requiring seven for a majority. I deduce from the voting patterns and comments that there is some feeling that an enforcement clause would be somewhat superfluous in my case. If this isn't the case, those who opposed should perhaps reconsider their votes. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 19:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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== This is bad process ==
Take the survey '''[https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en here]'''.
Rolling sanctions against me into this matter in this fashion is out of process,
* I am not a party to the matter
* The proposed sanctions are not on the Workshop page, so I am barred from even defending myself
* Some of the causes of action you describe are not even tangental to this matter
...and as to the specifics on vandalism...
* Several dozen people refer to MarkSweeps actions as vandalism, which makes a significant consensus
* it is a proposed ''finding of fact'', are you considering sactioning anyone who supports it?
* I have criticized actions, not people, so this cannot be a personal attack
...and on UPP...
* There is no stated policy to prohibit my messages to 43 UN Wikipedians, save one, which I have acknowleged
* The action in the sanction is misdescribed, and in any even merits a ''finding of fact'' to support it
* I have exhaustively allocuted to my actions
* In light of the uncivil comments directed at me by several opponents, this scarcely bears mention. Specifically, for you to allege that I was attempting to stack a vote would itself be a failure to ''assume good faith'', and by your standards, a personal attack
Kind Regards,
If you ''really'' want to do this, which I recommend against, bring it as a separate matter yourself, rather than proscecuting from the bench. Be advised that you are treading on several [[Meta:Foundation issues|Foundation issues]] and will likely be the subject of an appeal.
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:You are indeed a party, and have involved yourself quite extensively at this point. Several of your points are clear-cut [[Wikipedia:wikilawyering|wikilawyering]]. I don't need a policy to declare something that is wrong wrong. You may indeed defend yourself on the workshop right now. That "several dozen people refer to MarkSweeps actions as vandalism, which makes a significant consensus" is unsubstantiated (and sounds very exaggerated), most definitely ''not'' what consensus means, and we don't declare undesirable edits "vandalism" by consensus, anyway. Calling people vandals and thugs is most certainly commenting on people, not actions. There is no question that you were stacking the vote. Please don't waste our time with accusations against me and idle threats. I propose what I do for no other reason than that after a careful review of the evidence and your own contributions, I have decided this is the necessary action. The process for the Arbitration Committee is the Arbitration Committee's process. I am not out of process. Rather, I suggest you take criticism to heart and act both civilly and not disruptively. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 19:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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After reading Tony's explanation, I see how this bypassing the workshop page is not strictly out-of-process, though I still maintain that it is bad process. My question remains: ''for what possible reason would an arbiter bypass an active workshop page, except to bypass discussion?''
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I am unaware of having made an idle threat, could you clarify? Also, you should not take my comments as an accusation in any but the most rhetorical sense: if you are so certain that to conclude ''vandalism'' is a failure to assume good faith (despite the evidence), is it not possible that to conclude that ''vote-stacking'' is similarly a failure to assume good faith? You may deplore what I did, as I deplore what MarkSweep did. Either we should speak freely of our convictions, or be consistent in withholding judgement. I'd opt for the former. BTW, a minority consensus is still significant, and in the case of the perception of vandalism, it is much, much larger than you allow. I could do a poll- no names of course- on WP:CENT and see what others say. I do not claim that MarkSweep's actions are vandalism because many others say so, or would say so, I claim it because they were destructive, out-of-process and in clear bad faith. You should consider whether you are seeking to punish me for a legitimate difference of opinion.
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BTW, when I say ''prima facia'' bad faith, are you clear on what I mean? I have been wondering.
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Also, ''"after a careful review of the evidence and your own contributions, I have decided this is the necessary action"'', you wrote and voted on a decision before I ever presented evidence, so how do you figure that you've made ''a careful review of the evidence?'' How presumtuous of bad faith is it to call my submissions ''wikilawyering?'' I am interested to know to which ones you are refering. Have you considered that I am doing ArbCom for the first time? Few appear to be following the rules at all, how should I infer what is supposed to be argued. I have had several shots of vague innuendo directed at me (under the title of ''evidence'' no less!), and you want to take only me to task for describing MarkSweep's actions- on hard evidence- as vandalism?
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I'm sorry to spam your talk page, but this seemed serious enough to directly put on your talk page. I have evidence that AiG has actively had employees push their POV on the AiG page and possibly on related pages. I have added a new evidence section in the Agapetos arbitration to that effect, explaining the evidence. Due to the very serious nature of this accusation and its possible implications for Wikipedia, I decided to directly alert all of the ArbCom members. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 01:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
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: JoshuaZ retracted this in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Agapetos_angel/Evidence&diff=46104984&oldid=46101787 evidence] because it was erroneous, but failed to mention it on your talk page. [[User:Agapetos angel|agapetos_angel]] 07:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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:: That's highly inaccurate. I qualified the evidence in question. The user wasn't an employee but was specifically asked by an employee. See my evidence section and Standon's for details, and Agapetos, please don't put words in my mouth. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 13:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_Islam&diff=45668924&oldid=41306441 This edit] of yours apparently deliberately alters my comment on a talk page with the specific intention of breaking a link. I believe that even a cursory examination of my contributions will make it clear that I am not a linkspammer. I'm sure you are aware that, in general, editing other people's comments on talk pages is bad form. Is there a specific policy of which I am unaware that we may not link to OmniNerd, even in a discussion of plagiarism ''by'' a Wikipedian ''of'' an OmniNerd article? If so, then your edit was legitimate. Otherwise, I ask you to revert at least the part that altered my comment. Thanks. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 20:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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"…As for breaking a link: if you are talking about [[User:Uriah923/ON]], that was a silly oversight of my using the find-and-replace and a redirect was created.…" No, actually, I was talking about breaking the external link I put on a talk page, pointing to an article in OmniNerd that some other Wikipedian had apparently plagiarized. I thought that merited indicating from where they had plagiarized. Yes, I understand that OmniNerd was linkspamming us, and I'm of course happy to be rid of the spam, but I don't see why that means that we cannot link to them in a circumstance where a link would normally be there. Again, is there a policy that they are never to be linked to, or what? - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 21:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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: Sorry, didn't read closely enough the first time. Fine. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 21:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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Dmcdevit, i come to you for help in settling a dispute between myself, a non-administrator, and [User:Cyberjunkie], an administrator. I recently published an article on the [[Portuguese Discovery of Australia]], a topic of importance to australian culture. Cyberjunkie believes that this topic is not worthy of its own page, and has deleted the article. i am doing all i can do avoid wikidrama, but feel the need for my article, which i put considerable effort into and is backed up by legitimate sources, to remain present on the wiki network.
sincerely, [[User:Jazzper|√αzzρεr]] 05:13, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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This particular user sent me an email saying that he was banned for linkspamming. He has mentioned in his email that he was banned by you, though his blocklog shows that he was banned by [[User:172]]. He pleads ignorance of Wikipedia's policies, and would like to continue as an editor. Is there any scope? --'''<font color="#E32636">[[User:Anirudhsbh|Andy123]]</font>'''<small><font color="green">[[User talk:Anirudhsbh|(talk)]]</font></small> 22:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
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I disagree that that confirms that she'll never be acceptable. Just because Bob, Just Bob is her and she evaded a ban doesn't warrant an indef ban. Just an extension of the ban. Since the ban is up now, I wonder whether its really relevant to have a ban at all. [[User:59.167.131.8|59.167.131.8]] 19:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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You deleted two boxes from the user space. There is no rule that allows you to do so, and the page had already been recreated by an administrator because of this. While templates can be deleted for divisiveness, there is no such rule for the user space. I cannot even see why asking for a trial should be "inflammatory". Please do not abuse your powers. [[User:De mortuis...|De mortuis...]] 20:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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:That page was a validly deleted template. Moving the identical content to a user page and transcluding it (which is ssentially what a template is) in order to claim that it can't be deleted is appeal to mere technicality. It's the same thing. The proper way to address a disputed deletion is on [[WP:DRV]], where the issue is already being discussed, with a rather strong showing for deletion, and certainly ''not'' repeated recreation. I'm deleting it again, and this time I'll be protecting it. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 22:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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::There is no rule that allows deletion of user subpages, and it was already unprotected and recreated by an admin before. '''You violate wikipedia policy.''' [[User:De mortuis...|De mortuis...]] 00:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::You've got it backwards: "Violating policy" means doing something that the policy says not to do, not doing something that the policy doesn't say to do. Repeatedly recreatig validly deleted content, on the other hand, violates both policy and the spirit of the policy. Have you seen the discussion on DRV? Tell me how you can think what I did was wrong when it was clearly Good? [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 00:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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::::Just look at the talk pages of what you deleted. Admin [[user:Mike Rosoft|Mike Rosoft]] explained there why you have no right to delete it. As this can also be seen from the discussion you are referring to you apparently choose willingly to ignore wikipedia's rules and I will file a complaint against you. [[User:De mortuis...|De mortuis...]] 00:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::::I repeat that you seem fixated on rules rather than what actually is good for the encyclopedia, but the funny thing is that here I have violated no policies at all. Please read [[WP:CSD]] if you are unsure. The original templates were deleted by the templates criterion. They were then recreated under a different name, and I deleted them citing two deletion criteria: both the template criterion and G4, for recreated content. The issue should have been concluded on DRV, not circumvented with a recreation. And speaking of which, there is a sizable consensus in favor of the deletion at deletion review (which is where you would have taken my deletion if you disputed it and it wasn;t already there), and so the deletions were firmly within policy. And a good idea. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 07:31, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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::::::Hi there, getting a bit tired of this. Really cannot see why I shall be censored while all sorts of other opinions are allowed. As there were already administrators who agreed with me that the deletion was out of place I think you should try to get a general rule on things like this rather than delete in one case and claim you know what is best for wikipedia. [[User:ROGNNTUDJUU!|ROGNNTUDJUU!]] 10:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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==Questions regarding arbitration request==
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In your response to mixvio's request for arbitration, your response was, "Reject, though if there are arbitrable conduct issues, like personal attacks and edit warring, they should be presented as such and I'll reconsider." I have three questions. 1) If a personal attack is made against everyone (in some cases named, in others not) who disagrees with an individual's point of view, is that considered a personal attack? 2) Is characterizing the motivations of those who disagree with one's opinion in vulgar or offensive terms a personal attack? 3) If so, is it possible to attach a complaint against mixvio for conduct issues to the current complaint, or should a separate complaint be filed? I really hesitate to do this, and we've been trying to be patient with mixvio, but there comes a point when something must be done so I'd like to understand my options. Thanks. -[[User:Jmh123|Jmh123]] 21:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Request ==
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I have a request in my talk page.--[[User:-Inanna-|Inanna]] 05:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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I hope you care what i say because i'll do everything until my username deleted.--[[User:-Inanna-|Inanna]] 12:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Thu March 27: Editing the Open Data Garden @ Prime Produce ==
== [[User:Rgulerdem]]'s 1 Week Block ==
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Just to let you know that your decision to block [[User:Rgulerdem]] for one week was justified. I'm familiar with his editing and he's been in conflict with a great number of editors since his earliest days of editing on WikiPedia. see [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Fethullah_Gulen]]. He came into conflict over the [[Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy]] where he repeatedly [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=37877682 removed] the cartoons despite super majority editor support for their display and was repeatedly blocked because of it. His involvement with WikiEthics has been particularly contentious and in an effort to gain himself support he's previously resorted to internal spamming, see [[WP:AN#Extensive_internal_spamming.3F]]. Although not directly related you might take note of this [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Rgulerdem#User:Rgulerdem.7CRgulerdem|self-nom RfA]] to gain a larger perspective on who [[User:Rgulerdem]] is. [[User:Netscott|Netscott]] 09:59, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Dmcedvit. Thanks for ruining my record as a civil and amicable editor. I notice you didn't bother replying to my explanation of my position and why you were mistaken in blocking me. You didn't bother unblocking me, nor stepping aside so the admin objecting to your block could unblock me. You ignored requests by other users and an admin to ease up. I explained to you precisely why I found it desirable to be ''unblocked'' -- To clear my name.
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Which is all too late now. And though that may not mean anything to you, I made it clear it means something to me.
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I hope you try to realise that wielding a big stick ruthlessly has it's consequences. Working in an environment with editors like Rgulerdem is hard enough at the best of times. But to then cop a bludgeoning from you is beyond reasonable expectations.
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I'm thoroughly disillusioned with wikiprocess and authority mechanisms on wikipedia, in relation to both writing an encyclopedia, and internal management. I've left wikipedia.
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== WikiNYC April 11: Foundation and Friends' Free Culture Friday ==
Think about it. Rgulerdem is still here, and you've driven me off. Truly, a fools preference. Compare our article contributions and you'll see how in this instance your overzealous excesses contribute miserably to the fundamental goal of writing on an encyclopedia. Peace. ॐ <small><i><strong><font color="orange">[[User:Metta Bubble|Metta Bubble]]</font></strong> <sup><font color="red">[[User Talk:Metta Bubble|puff]]</font></sup></i></small> 02:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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:[[User:Metta Bubble]] has blanked his talk page so to follow the logic (which I agree with btw) about how [[User:Rgulerdem]] arrived at +3RR and Metta Bubble didn't please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Metta_Bubble&oldid=47635181#3RR this version] of MB's talk page. [[User:Netscott|Netscott]] 06:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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== -Inanna- ==
* Friday, April 11, 2025
Inanna has recently been using the sockpuppet {{user|81.214.217.214}}. She's trying to empty [[:Category:Wikipedia:Suspected sockpuppets of -Inanna-]]. What should we do? --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 17:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
*''1:30 pm – 3:00 pm'' (Wikimedia Foundation staff + community meet-and-greet)
:Unfortunately she's on a dynamic IP. All we can do without causing too much collateral damage is revert-on-sight and hand out short blocks when she comes back. Leave a note n [[WP:AN/I]] if you catch sight of her evading the ban. Thanks. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 02:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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::Ok, thanks for the advice. --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 02:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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== [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Lou franklin|Requests for arbitration/Lou franklin]] nitpicking ==
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As long as you're clarifying the remedies, maybe it should say "banned from '''editing''' Wikipedia" instead of "banned from Wikipedia"? --[[User:Samuel Blanning|Sam Blanning]]<sup>[[User_talk:Samuel_Blanning|(talk)]]</sup> 09:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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== 3RR ==
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I would appreciate your comment on [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:Space_Cadet]]. This user seems to has gone Molobo's way. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 14:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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:Thanks for your helpful response. Cheers, [[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 08:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
== You're invited! Earth Day Edit-a-thon & Meetup 2025 ==
==Neologisms==
Hi there, a while ago you made an edit on the [[Wikipedia:Avoid neologisms]] guideline. I am proposing a revision to the guideline and I'm soliciting your comments. You can find the link to my rewrite at [[Wikipedia talk:Avoid neologisms]] -- [[User:Cmh|cmh]] 01:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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You are invited to join us at Ujamaa Community Bookstore (2424 Doctor M.L.K. Jr St, Indianapolis, IN 46208)for an Earth Day edit-a-thon and meetup hosted by IU Indianapolis Arts & Humanities Institute, Ujamaa Community Bookstore, Flanner Farms, and the Wikimedians of Indiana User Group. This event is supported by the Central Indiana Community Foundation—where both experienced and new Wikipedia editors will collaboratively improve write articles about earth day, the environment, and local food and environmental movements, history, and legislation.
*Tuesday April 22nd, from 4 - 7 pm: '''[[Wikipedia:Meetup/Indianapolis/Earth Day 2025|Earth Day Edit-a-thon & Meetup]] ([[Wikipedia:Meetup/Indianapolis/Earth Day 2025#RSVP|RSVP]])''', focusing on Earth Day related topics like the environment, agriculture, plants, and animals, and local and regional food and environmental movements, history and legislationg
Hi. As I see it (and as I remember a discussion some time ago), setting a page to a prior state is something anybody can do. Admin-Rollback just makes it easier. I agree, it degrades the value of the rolled back edit. In the case of Molobo and SpaceCadet, however, I will continue to use rollback as I see necessary, since they also leave no/wrong/insulting edit summaries, and many of their ''contributions'' border on disrupting wikipedia. Especially with Molobo, any discussion is like talking to a wall (not that I and many others have tried). I hope you understand. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 08:45, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
::''4 pm to 7pm at Ujamaa Community Bookstore in Indianapolis, IN.''
:I concur with Chris. There is a golden rule: don't feed the troll. It's quite useless to discuss anything with trolls, because it's exactly what they need. Molobo and SpaceCadet may be likened to battering rams used by Polish editors to spread their POV. We've been all over the same things again and again - check the history of [[Simon Dach]], for instance, where for two months they reverted [[Konigsberg]] to an obscure Polish name despite a mounting protest from scores of editors. In the case of Molobo, discussions have a collateral damage, as he has an obnoxious habit of pasting huge chunks of copyrighted stuff in the discussions without acknowledging their authorship, sometimes in the middle of your own comment. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARenaissance_in_Poland&diff=43789323&oldid=43786733], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Renaissance_in_Poland&action=history] for example. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 06:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
We hope to see you there! Sincerely, [[metawiki:Wikimedians_of_Indiana_User_Group|Wikimedians in Indiana User Group]]
== Vandalism on Acharya S and my arbitratoion.==
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2 qurasitons.
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== NYC: May 7 WikiWed + May 10 WikiCurious ==
1: How long is the barrign me from editign her page for?
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2:Can I challenge the verdict?
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3: You do relaise you have just been played, right? I didnt threaten to post Liable, I threatened to post an artilce I had written. I also didnt post the material several times, and had not tlake don it for months.
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James list of evidence was itsslf ridiculous as most of it was not relaly aimed at the point of arbitration, and one can just as eaisly come up wiht a long list of evidence agsint him.
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The bit abotu her son, and how low I was to brign him into it, is also ridiculous. I posted that her son had been kidnapped, and returned to her. This was after she posted a news article on it on her own website. ( And is thus not liable and was verifiable.)
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Look at the below. Tell me htis is not Bias, and not vandalism.
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How am I disruptive in revertign it?
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'''''At least one critic and various detractors from the apologetic camp''' have claimed her work is based on poor scholarship, with little primary research and heavy reliance on outdated or fringe sources, and shows ignorance of the topics on which she writes, in particular of the Hindu and Buddhist traditions. '''Nevertheless, there is much original research in her work, especially in "Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled," her follow-up to "The Christ Conspiracy'''."''
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The Bold sections are Biased. Saying that she has only oen Critic and several detractors fromt he apologist Camp is Biased. Calling her critics detractods is biased. Saying that she "NEvertheless has origional research" is bais. It is nto WIkipeidas palce to determine if her owrk is origional or not. Her critics say it is not. (Critics, not detractors.)
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== June 11: Virtual NYC WikiWednesday ==
Sayin that it is as a point-of-fact is a bais.
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''Acharya S has been described, by her own books, and website, as well as the Paranoia Magazine website, as a historian, mythologist, religious scholar, linguist(she speaks, reads and writes several ancient and modern languages), and archeologist with moderate undergraduate experience in Archeology. Internet essayist John Kaminski describes her as "the ranking religious philosopher of our era".''
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The Kamanski quote exists only to further boost her image. The statement baotu spekaign more thna one language is not rlelay relevant, and the Omisison of the reason WHY she is claimed ot be " A Historian, Religiosu Shclar, Archeologist, and Lingust" is not preasent. ( Ys you say she speaks multiple languages. But no other explanaiton rellay eixts.)
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It is entrley promotional.
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The ommission of the fac thtat she hodls no trianign in any of these fields, and is only these thigns "By DIcitonary definition", the argument her supporters made her to forc the ridiculosu list in the encyclopidia int he firts place, is biased. Youd o nto want hte reader to know she hodls no degree and try to sway the readers opinion.
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== Kipple ==
''She has received rave reviews from readers across the spectrum, from those on the edge of doubt about their religons to those having some familiarity with the unhistorical nature of religon generally. Her books have become popular with avid "truth-seekers" from around the world, eliciting interest from the average person to the professional and academically trained thinkers.''
Hi, I was under the impression that we had an article about [[kipple]], the subject invented by [[Philip K. Dick]]. I recall reading it many years ago. However, I went looking for it today (or even a single mention of it), and I could find nothing. The page in question linked above shows you deleted one version of it in 2009, but I'm not sure if that's the right one. Does that one mention PKD? If it does, I would like a copy of it for my sandbox. There's quite a bit written on this subject, and at the very least, it should be added to his biography. Thanks. [[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 22:39, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:Sorry for not replying sooner. I restored the article to [[User:Viriditas/Kipple]] so you can use it how you like. Thanks! [[User:Dominic|Dominic]]·[[User talk:Dominic|t]] 18:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
THis entire paragrpah is promotional, and thus shoudl not be in the encyclopedia. It exosts only to firther her views.
== WikiNYC this week: Thursday Edit-a-thon + Sunday Wiki-Picnic! ==
It is also of import that it claim as a fact that religion is Ahistorical, which is not Wikipeidas palce.
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It also seems not to be vrified form any known source, and is just a form of marketing.
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Fulfilling Wikimedia NYC tradition, we'll start off the campaign with an edit-a-thon on Thursday and a Wiknic on Sunday, and will continue with Wikimedia NYC 400 events throughout the rest of this year.
The Omisison of the link to King David's website was doen soley for the sake of preservign her knoeldgable image. In the exchange, she filed ot rellay defend her views, and so it servs the interests of her legiosn to rmove it.
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* [[Event:NYC 400 Women Do News Edit-A-Thon|NYC 400: Women Do News Edit-A-Thon]]
These are the problems.
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* [[Event:NYC 400 Wiknic and Edit-A-Thon with Washington Square Park|NYC 400: Wiknic and Edit-A-Thon with Washington Square Park]]
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As to the version I reverted to, no problems are even listed.
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I thought the 'revert parole' idea was good. I was just wondering about this RfA, how long does the process take? Much thanks, --[[User:Khashayar Karimi|''' - K a s h ''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Khashayar Karimi|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Khashayar_Karimi email]</sup> 22:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Matthew Brown (Morven) ==
::Hi again, I see that you have proposed to put me on probation which I think is very unfair. I guess I will try to get an advocate to help me with this case so I can prepare an statement on all the efforts I have made to resolve the issues before engaging in what you have called 'persistent edit warring'. These efforts include almost every possible way there is on Wikipedia to resolve a matter, such as Notice reports, Mediations, Several RfCs, contacting many admins and trusted members to come and try to resolve the case, trying to engage in a civil discussion with editors (Aucaman and those suggested by ManiF below), etc etc (Some of the evidence I have already collected can be seen at the top of [[User:Khashayar Karimi/sandbox]].
Hello Dominic. Good to see you still around. I am not sure if you read ''The Signpost'' regularly, but I noticed (sadly) the obituary for Matthew Brown (Morven) who died last year (he has not been active since 2009 so the news took time to reach Wikipedia). Not sure how well you knew him (you served together on ArbCom) but I have posted a courtesy notice [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee&diff=prev&oldid=1301526976 here] and thought you would want to know. I am only contacting a few former arbitrators from that time, but maybe you will know better who might want to be informed. All best wishes. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 09:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
::The first time I was blocked it was unjustified - "blanking Talk:Iranian peoples", ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Khashayar_Karimi]). What I had infact done, was to archive the talk page and gather all the disputes and put them in the talk page again. So my experience with Wikipedia has not been the most pleasant and the way I have been dragged in to this is unfair in my opinion.
:{{re|Carcharoth}} Thanks for notifying me. We never conversed all that much in a personal capacity, and didn't stay in touch since I moved on from that area of Wikipedia. But I have stayed Facebook friends with him over the years, and did see the news last year. I was so sad to hear that he had passed away. I see that we have 19 mutuals on Facebook, as well, so it seems he was still reasonable well-connected with the community. I have been around Wikipedia now for 20 years, so unfortunately it's not the first or last time. Thank you so much for letting folks know. [[User:Dominic|Dominic]]·[[User talk:Dominic|t]] 20:39, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
== NYC August: Wikimania Satellite Social + Roosevelt Island Wiknic ==
::I also don't believe I have engaged in "consistant edit warring", my "consistant" contributions to Iranian articles are much appreciated by some [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Khashayar_Karimi#The_Barnstar_of_National_Merit] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Iran#Silly_wording_conflict]. While at the same time I am targetted by hateful personal attacks in Persian by anonymous IP right after engaging in a dialogue with Aucaman (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIran&diff=48477790&oldid=48414222 here]). [[User:Khashayar Karimi|''' - K a s h ''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Khashayar Karimi|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Khashayar_Karimi email]</sup> 11:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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Hi there, can evidence be presented against one of the "semi-involved" parties in that case? --[[User:ManiF|ManiF]] 06:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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: Hi, I noticed that you have included me in the arbitration case decision, without me even knowing that I'm part of the case to present evidence for or against the case up until now. However, if the case is to be extended to cover the larger conflict which I'm sure you've been studying, then I think other users who have been constantly edit waring on behalf of or on side of Aucaman, should also be included in the case. Namely, [[User:Zora]], [[User:Ahwaz]], [[User:Heja helweda]], and [[User:Xebat]]. For example, please take a look at this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zora#Incivility_and_Possible_POV body of evidence] against [[User:Zora]]. --[[User:ManiF|ManiF]] 08:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::Yes, if you check the history page of the [[Iranian peoples]] article you can see the [[User:Xebat]] has been a huge part of the dispute as well. --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 08:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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* [[Event:NYC Wiknic on Roosevelt Island|Roosevelt Island Wiknic]]
:::: I'll try to gather some evidence tonight, but I don't think one night is enough time. If you have been going through the evidence, there is a clear pattern of these users, particularly [[User:Xebat]], [[User:Ahwaz]], [[User:Heja helweda]], and [[User:Zora]] assisting/backing [[User:Aucaman]] in all of his adventures on Iran-related pages. Accordingly, some of them have been blocked by administrators for personal attacks and 3RR on several occasions. Whatever Iran-related page [[User:Aucaman]] has been involved in or disrupted, he has seeked these particular users' help [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Heja_helweda&diff=46801576&oldid=46133838], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Heja_helweda&diff=43554350&oldid=42994558], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zora&diff=46760361&oldid=46760313], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zora&diff=46268023&oldid=46210893], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xebat&diff=46702155&oldid=46671895], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=User_talk:Ahwaz] knowing thier stance on Iran-related issues. --[[User:ManiF|ManiF]] 08:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::I have a question, would the proposal be changed if we provide evidence for these people? --[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 08:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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:::: I have the same question as Khoikhoi, would the proposed decision be changed if we provide evidence for these people, especially now that another ArbCom member has voted on it? I find it very unfair that all of the editors who have have been involved in a dispute with Aucaman, are being included in the arbitration case's proposed decision without a prior notice, while users who have been edit-warning on behalf of Aucaman, assisting his efforts, are simply getting off the hook here. Here is just a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xebat&diff=46571347&oldid=46496491 sample] of this particular group of users' conduct. In order for justice to be done, I think either editors who weren't officially a participant in the RFAr should be excluded from the proposed decision or the the proposed decision should be widened to include '''all parties involved on both sides of the wider conflict'''. --[[User:ManiF|ManiF]] 11:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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==Evidence for the RfAR==
Regarding your message [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ALukasPietsch&diff=48529271&oldid=48291858 here]. Lukas appears to be on a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LukasPietsch Wikibreak], so I'm going to be presenting the evidence. Could you give me some time to prepare these? Say, 5-7 days? [[User:Aucaman|'''Aucaman''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Aucaman|Talk]]</sup> 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, although I had originally planned to keep a lower profile, I've now gone ahead and submitted what material I had, as things seem to have started moving rather fast suddenly. [[User:LukasPietsch|Lukas]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:LukasPietsch|(T.]]|[[Special:Emailuser/LukasPietsch|@)]]</sup></small> 15:30, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
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==User:Acuman==
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== Infobox edits, place of burial details ==
This user should be banned. He has made derogatory comments, intentional fabricated controversial and untrue material into articles, and deliberately disturbed both order and balance in the Wiki-community. He has been in numerous exchanges with other users. User:Acuman also applies double standards he says one thing for others and sees himself above what he demands and ascribes to other editors. He has upset the following articles in a long list of articles tied to Iran; Kurds, Kurdistan, Persian Gulf, Persians, Iran, Iranian peoples. The editors he has allies himself with are also irrational and uncompromising racists or bigots. I demand he be disciplined. I have seen the list of controversial and flat our provocative edits and fictional claims he has made and ask that he be closely watched by administrators, all editors, and the whole community. He has acted in a distasteful manner and has not respected the rules and demands of the community. [[User:72.57.230.179|72.57.230.179]] 08:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
==ArbCom proposed final decision==
Hi, regarding your proposal here[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Aucaman/Proposed_decision&diff=48541732&oldid=48151754]; I respect whatever decision the committee may hand-out, nevertheless, it hurts me to see after avoiding any further controversial editing, and my compromise with others, that I too may be banned from contributing to the topics which I am familiar with. If you need some evidence that point towards my attempts at compromise with other editors, kindly let me know. It has been weeks since I have reverted [[Iranian people]] (I only added some picture lately), or the [[Persian people]] articles, and since the suggestions by some admins, which I took to heart, I have not engaged in edit-warring, since early March, and I will not do so anymore. Although, Aucaman was blocked four times in the past month, and to this day continues his disruptive behaviour. I also feel it is appropriate that other users be put on probation, however, I wish that the committee had looked into {{vandal|Zora}}`s contributions as well; see here please[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zora&diff=48179450&oldid=48179131].. At any rate, here are some diffs showing my successful attempts at compromising with various other editors, some whom had engaged in revert wars with others (in some cases, such as the [[Persian Gulf]] article the long edit wars ceased after I intervened)[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Angel#Lead_paragraph.2C_Angelology_and_Zoroastrianism][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:InShaneee&diff=47194278&oldid=47191396][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zmmz&diff=46669711&oldid=46668998][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kurdish_people&diff=48366376&oldid=48363694][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kurdish_people&diff=48402491&oldid=48368082][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persian_Gulf&diff=48491923&oldid=48490636][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persian_Gulf&diff=48387957&oldid=48387199]. I would hope that you re-evaluate my contributions for the past month and a half, and you commute the decision regarding me to a [[probation]], rather than a topical ban. Please let me what you think. Thank you{{vandal|Zmmz}} 08:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Dominic, how's it going? I've done a lot of work on [[Tony Hinkle]] and [[Clinton L. Hare]], and have those articles on my watchlist. I see you've made a series of edits to bio articles that appear to be related to [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Indianapolis/CrownHillCemetery]]. And {{u|WendySewHappy}} and {{u|Charmingmanatee59}} appear to be collaborating in that effort. A couple issues here. Your edits really blew up the infobox at the Hinkle article by wrapping the preexisting [[Template:Infobox college coach]] inside [[Template:Infobox person]]. The same sort of problem happened at [[Harry Deane]]. There's probably a neater way to do this, but I don't see much value in adding a more generic infobox template just to insert the relatively arcane details of a subject's burial. Second, while reliable, published sources like an obituary may note the place of a subject's burial, it's unlikely they will note the exact section and lot of the grave. So I think in most cases, that information won't be notable for inclusion in a Wikipedia biography article. Thanks, [[User:Jweiss11|Jweiss11]] ([[User talk:Jweiss11|talk]]) 20:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello I was asked to add a comment here by Zmmz. I would generally say I have an opposite POV on the articles where I have come into contact with Zmmz, but in the cases where we have had serious conflicts we have been able to compromise. Zmmz definetely has a stong POV, but I think it would be wrong to block him from editing these articles since on the whole I think he makes useful additions. I think it is kinda strange that out of all the Pro-Iranian editors it is Zmmz that has been picked on, since he is easily the most reasonable and not to mention courteus of all of these users.- [[User:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg]] | [[User talk:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Talk]] 10:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Jweiss11|Jweiss11]]! I am not too sure what ''notability'' means in this context, since that is more of a concept about whether an article subject merits inclusion. What I do know is that we were working only on notable subjects buried in [[Crown Hill Cemetery]], which itself is a (notable) registered historic landmark frequented by tourists—and there are many guides to finding public figures in Crown Hill. The general {{t|infobox person}} has a parameter for the burial ___location and even coordinates. We were following the template's own documentation on how to nest infoboxes. The only issue I can see is that I will definitely grant you that there is not a reference in these edits. But that is like most infobox data, and it is also not a fact really in dispute, so I am wondering why you felt like it was worth reverting edits to take information out of the article? <p> If you want, I am happy to go back and fix the formatting. I have since learned that you need to use the "| embed = yes " parameter to not make the article's title show twice, and the box inside of a box. To me, if we had used that in articles like the Hinkle article, it looks perfect. But since you are also disputing inclusion of these facts at all, I am just ware that going back to improve these would be kicking off an edit war. [[User:Dominic|Dominic]]·[[User talk:Dominic|t]] 18:48, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
== WikiNYC Sun Aug 24: Roosevelt Island Wiknic 2025 ==
:Ditto to most everything Moshe just said. In my case, I had a brief conflict with Zmmz a couple months ago when he was brand new on the scene here, and still did not know all the ropes - but we were indeed soon able to reach a compromise that was satisfactory to everyone, by each giving a little... From what I can tell, he seems to have adjusted to becoming a "wikipedian" remarkably swiftly; and since this here is the first time I have ever commented on any arbcom case in any way, it could be said that he is more experienced than I am in certain areas! [[User:Codex Sinaiticus|ፈቃደ]] ([[User talk:Codex Sinaiticus|ውይይት]]) 14:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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::Zmmz has asked me to comment as I watch Persian Gulf. I'm unfamiliar with most of the details and certainly with the arbcom case. I will say he does seem to want to work constructively on the Gulf page. One thing he has ''not'' done is involved himself with the never ending flameposts on the talk page, which would be tempting if he has a strong POV. That's all I feel competent to comment on. Cheers, [[User:Marskell|Marskell]] 15:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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:Thanks for your input. I'm going to propose a less strict remedy instead that would allow Zmmz to edit in most of Persia-related articles under probation. If you'd like to offer evidence against another involved party, do it at the evidence page, not here. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 18:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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You are invited to '''[[Event:NYC Wiknic on Roosevelt Island|the picnic anyone can edit]]''' on [[Roosevelt Island]], at Southpoint Park. Please dress for the weather and bring a blanket or lawn chair for seating; we will be having this picnic on the grass. Bring some [[potluck]] as well as some board games to add to the fun!
All are welcome, new and experienced!
Zmmz has stayed out of the revert wars, but from my POV, he continutes to be a profoundly disruptive editor. He still does not GET the concept of NPOV; he believes that he has no POV whatsoever and that anyone who admits to one is thereby disqualified from editing. See this lecture to me on my talk page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZora&diff=48205934&oldid=48184441]. I don't know how this could be done, or what rules would apply, but anything that could get Zmmz to agree to live and let live, to allow other POVs as long as his was represented, would be appreciated. [[User:Zora|Zora]] 23:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
'''Sunday, August 24, 2025 [[Event:NYC Wiknic on Roosevelt Island|Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island]]'''
:Well in some ways I agree with you. But I think part of the reason he is a pretty good editor is precisely because despite having an extremely strong POV and pretty much only writing with that POV, he is still almost always courteus with editors of different POV, this strongly contrasts with similar editors like...hell I will just name them, Zereshk, and Southern Comfort who seem unable to tolerate different beliefs.- [[User:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg]] | [[User talk:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg|Talk]] 11:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you all for your kind words, and happy Easter. In regards to comments by Zora, with all due respect, your claim that you may neutralize articles as opposed to some POV is very selective. Trying to erase the Persian ethnicity of a poet called [[Rumi]], and stating, “''Let’s just call him a Muslim, he belongs to all of us''”, not only it is not in an NPOV fashion, but also highly inappropriate in an encyclopedia. I have stated many times before that my main concern is with the factual, relevant integrity of an article, in its academic form, and it is not the job an encyclopedia per se to include all sides, or multiple hypothesis, for that they can be numerous (unless in some cases where we do not posses enough data, it is necessary to do so). The Media usually allows all sides. Some of your edits have been historically inaccurate as well[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Aucaman/Evidence#Evidence_presented_by_User:Zmmz]. However, I have asked you before to provide me with an edit of mine that was not factual, or relevant, because I am interested to know myself. And, , as compared to the other user in the case, who was blocked four times in the past month, my compromising efforts have resulted in a cease to edit wars in the [[Angel]], and [[Persian Gulf]] articles. Also, if you recall, out of all the other editors, I was the only one who agreed with a new version in the [[Al Khwarizmi]] article: I`m sorry, that is not being disruptive, rather hopefully it is productive.[[User:Zmmz|Zmmz]] 20:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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==[[User:Mel Etitis]]==
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Greetings. With all due respect, if I'm going to be put on probation for edit warring on articles like [[Jami]], then Mel Etitis should be put on probation as well considering his behavior there
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=47263182&oldid=47241725]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=47263182&oldid=47241725] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=48337067&oldid=48284019] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=48397512&oldid=48338049] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=48432505&oldid=48402394] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jami&diff=48565789&oldid=48454618] and false accusations against me on [[Talk:Jami#Personal-attack_edit_summaries.2C_etc.]]. And he was blocked for 3RR on that article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Mel_Etitis]. And on top of all that, he's an admin. People have been stripped of their adminship for this type of behavior. Take care, [[User:SouthernComfort|SouthernComfort]] 15:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
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==Questions==
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Hi. I just wanted to let you know, ever since my last block, I have made a vow to follow the [[WP:1RR]], hence I haven't really gotten into any edit wars. Would that make a difference? Also, does probation every expire? —[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoikhoi]] 19:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
== Objectivism userboxes ==
Just curious as to your justification for deleting the {{tl|User Objectivism}} and {{tl|User No Objectivism}} userboxes, considering the multitude of philosophical movements represented in [[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Beliefs]] and [[Wikipedia:Userboxes/Religion]]. -[[User:Objectivist-C|Objectivist-C]] 21:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
:It seems like a widely known and established philsophy to me. Are you proposing to delete every philsophy userbox less well known than this one?? [[User:Ansell|<span style="color:#0000FF;">Ans</span>]][[User:Ansell/Esperanza|<span style="color:#009000;">e</span>]][[User talk:Ansell|<span style="color:#0000FF;">ll</span>]] 23:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
== d ==
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Dbachmann_and_clique I don't think I'm allowed to vote or comment so I will msg you who voted. (The talk page of this arb does not have a specific talk for it so this is the best idea I had.) Banning the person is a useless step. They will create more sock puppets. You have to get them to come to terms. [[User:DyslexicEditor|DyslexicEditor]] 00:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
== Disagreement with indefinite block of Molobo ==
I got an email for [[User:Molobo]] about your indefinite block of him:
''01:51, 16 April 2006 Dmcdevit blocked "Molobo (contribs)" with an expiry time of indefinite (per consensus to extend this to indefinite; see [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive89#Molobo_blocked_for_disruptive_edit_warring]]''). I don't see any consensus to extend this to indefinite. While there are some users supporting this, there are also others which think that month is the best solution (those others include me, an admin, and Irpen, a user who often opposed Molobo). And there are also those who think that even a month is too much. Anyway, I would like to ask you to revert your change to a month block (minus the time already passed), or for opening of the ArbCom case (if you want to present the arguments for the block). I can understant why a month long block was applied in this case, but an indefinete is a significant overkill. Molobo may be annoying from time to time, but I have also seen him being a useful content creator (granted, not often enough, but enough not to approve of an indefinit block - he should have at least one more chance in a month to prove that he has reformed himself).--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 22:24, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
:I support Piotrus on this one. An indefinite block is excessive in this case. Molobo should be given a chance to improve his behavior. If he comes back after his one month compulsory vacation and continues his edits in the same spirit, he can just be blocked again. Besides, if he is blocked indefinitely, what will prevent him from coming back with a sockpuppet, sooner or later? [[User:Balcer|Balcer]] 22:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
::Molobo has been given PLENTY of chances to "improve his behaviour". Look at his RfC, for example. So far, he has been a ram weapon tool in the hands of Balcer, Piotrus, etc. Dozens editors cannot write new articles, while he — with the full encouragement of Balcer and Piotrus — turns innumerable articles into a nationalist mess and launches one wild revert-warring campaign after another. And this "useful content creator" has not written a single new article which has withstood AfD procedure as yet. I strongly support indefinite block, although I understand that Polish nationalists will get upset about losing such a "valuable" contributor to their propaganda. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 08:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:::I kind of agree to give him another chance (while not being Polish!). Regardless of his (from what I understand) annoying jingoistic edits, I think the malefactor is dealt with a bit arbitrarily: It’s unfair to inform someone on his talk page that you were going to put him in detention for his wrongdoing for one month and then say, well, on second thought we throw you out of school for good ([[ne bis in idem]]). And I think the condemned should be able to have a say in this, too ([[audiatur et altera pars]])! [[User:Teodorico|Teodorico]] 10:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::::May I ask you - considering that you made as few as 50 edits in this project - are you sure that you met Molobo before and may properly assess the destructiveness of his behaviour? --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 10:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I’ve met him once and the fierce Polish-German edit war he was involved in seemed a bit trivial and quirky to me. All I said was that I think it is - as a matter of principle - a bit unfair to tighten the measures ex post and not to hear the accused at all! But if the number of my edits and the time I can afford to spend here is, as it seems, a significant factor for you, then you’re right, I shouldn’t form an opinion. [[User:Teodorico|Teodorico]] 11:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Teodorico, please don't take Ghirla's tone personally. Some people are less diplomatic, but we welcome all editors, no matter how active they are.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 16:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::Let me just note that I never encouraged Molobo to continue his divisive contributions. I tried a few times to suggest to him that he change his behavior and contribute to Wikipedia in a more constructive way. I must say those accusations by Ghirlandajo that Molobo was some kind of a pet troll of certain people are deeply offensive. Let me go on record to state that I always viewed the vast majority of Molobo's contributions as harmful, as he seemed to be obsessed with a single point of view to the exclusion of all others. I am also glad he has been blocked for one month. However, an indefinite block seems to me a punishment that is somewhat too drastic.
::::::I would also like to take this opportunity to ask Ghirlandajo to stop his wave of offensive behavior lately. Besides baseless accusations presented against me and Piotrus here, your recent edit comments have become increasingly offensive. I would put this comment on your talk page, except that you have developed a habit of censoring it. All my contributions to it are being deleted on sight. I can only say it's easy to win any argument, if you simply remove the rebuttals of your opponent. It is also easy to appear as a great editor, if you remove from your talk page all indications to the contrary. [[User:Balcer|Balcer]] 17:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::::::: Hello, my talk page belongs to me. I have prevously said that I don't want to have anything to do with editors like Bonaparte, Molobo, Halibutt and (now) Balcer. Please stop pestering me with your propaganda and move your nationalist agenda elsewhere. I also don't think that yours and Molobo's constant delations on talk pages of other users will help you to further your anti-Ghirlandajo crusade. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 18:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: My house belongs to me too, yet I try to behave politely to my guests. If you plan to censor your page, at least put up a notice to that effect, so that people don't waste their time commenting on it. As for any crusade against you, it only exists in your paranoid imagination. [[User:Balcer|Balcer]] 18:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I think you can see above (and in the 3RR discussion) that there is no consensus. Also, I've just noticed that you've even protected Molobo's talk page, effectively taking away from even the ability to communicate with us on his talk page. That's... oh well. Let me just request that you unprotect his page in addition to going back to the month lenght block, for which there was a consensus.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 16:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:I don't want to give anyone the impression that I'm ignoring you, but I'm rather busy at the moment and since the original block was for a month, which won't expire for a while, there's no urgency in deciding whether it should be a month or longer. I'll reconsider within a day or so. As for the talk page protection, blocked users have no right to use their talk page when blocked, that's simply a handy software feature. When they continue to use it for unproductive comments like "deleted by Irpen as usual" and "deleted as usual," then I have no qualms with protecting. Molobo can use email to contact me, and he has been doing so. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 16:48, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::I would support unblocking Molobo if there is the slightest evidence that he is going to change his behavior. Unfortunately, I have to agree that his talk page didn't give any such evidence, and rather suggested that the behavior that he was blocked for would continue. However, I wouldn't see much harm in letting the one month block expire naturally and then reblock for longer (why indefinitely? ArbCom penalties are often just a year-long block, why should this be different?) if he behaves disruptively again. To Ghirlandajo's comment above: Molobo has recently written the article [[Hans Krüger]], which isn't all ''that'' bad. If Molobo agrees to put himself under reasonable restrictions, he might become an ordinary strong-POV editor. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 17:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:While I would love to see Molobo blocked indefinitely, I have to agree with Piotrus that the way this was done is not quite kosher. I may have missed this, but was this announced on any noticeboard (i.e. [[WP:AN]] or [[WP:ANI]])? If there was similar support for an indef block as for the month long block, then he should stay blocked, otherwise it should go to the ArbCom. (and just if you are wondering, yes, do count me as a supporter of an indef block). If not yet done so, maybe this should be announced on a noticeboard, so that the community can have a say in this. In short, I think the indef block is good for Wikipedia (and I thank you for that), but the way we got there has to be looked at again. Happy editing -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 22:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
::There was discussion both on 3RR and Incident (see top of this thread for a link). I'd tentatively support forbidding Molobo from doing more then 1 revert - he spends too much time reverting and not enough time content creating, even through his talk contribs show he has extensive (if POVed) knowledge in the relevant areas. But there was no consensus for a indefiniete block, and for that reason if there are those who want it NOW, we should go to ArbCom. Also, note that if Molobo returns after a month and goes back to revert warring, there will be enough arguments for a year block.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 15:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Unblock Molobo. I think he is at least better or the same as Ghirlandajo. If you block him indefinitely you should also think of other editors like Ghirlandajo. --[[User:Deutsche|Deutsche]] 13:06, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
:This user is definitely Molobo's or Bonaparte's sock. Please check his contributions and impose a block. His blanking of my new article [[Battle of Gross-Jaegersdorf]] was particularly pathetic. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 13:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
When I decided to extend the block, I lookeed over that AN/I discussion again. I see 6 people (myself included) that support the indefinite block (which I had raised in my initial question). I see 6 that expressed support for the one-month block, but dispute the longer one. The only ones that explicitly disputed the indefinite block were Piotrus and Appleseed (and possibly Irpen). I hadn't anticipated much opposition to the extension. In any case, I'll put it back at a month with the stipulation that at the first whiff of a return to edit warring he will be reblocked. And if he decides to ever call me or anyone else an anti-Polish racist on-wiki (instead of emailing them to me like he is now) he'll find himself blocked as well. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 21:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:That sounds good to me. Thanks! I will also unprotect his talk page again, as a blocked user is allowed to edit his own talk page. Happy editing -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 21:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds fair to me. There is only that much 'second chances' that one can be given. But even if we do have to block him again, can we make it a year, not indefinite? I am kind of against indefinite in general - people can change, and year is a looong time.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]] <sup><font color="green">[[User_talk:Piotrus|Talk]]</font></sup> 16:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
It's a pity that Piotrus and Balcer have followed Molobo's way in his absence. They both were reported on [[WP:AN3]], yet Piotrus now attempts to cover up 5 reverts that Balcer made in 3 hours, by calling my notice "libel" and an attempt to "smear" Balcer's name. I would welcome your comments on the issue. These two guys seem to think that 3RR was devised for everyone but themselves. --[[User:Ghirlandajo|Ghirla]] <sup>[[User_talk:Ghirlandajo|-трёп-]]</sup> 14:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
:"They both were reported" of course fails to mention that they were reported by you. Anyway, your report did not find any support and I was not blocked [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Balcer]]. In fact no one found any fault with my actions (I reverted comments by an anonymous troll), except Ghirlandajo. For a possible reason why he started this little campaign, I invite interested readers to consult [[Talk:Russophobia]]. [[User:Balcer|Balcer]] 01:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
==Copy vio, blocking of [[User:Ghirlandajo]]==
Ghirla made this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Gross-J%C3%A4gersdorf&diff=49437984&oldid=49437431 which is clear a copy violation from the internet links that I've provided on talk page. I suggest him to stop and to Admins to block him. Thank you. --[[User:Deutsche|Deutsche]] 13:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
:I am inclined to believe Ghirla that Deutsche is a sockpuppet of banned user Bonaparte. At any rate, there were no copyvios as far as I could see. Can you check it out, and if proven, extend my initial 24 hour block to one of indefinite? [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|<small>(Check!)</small>]] 13:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
== Reply ==
Thank you for your kind warning on my talk page. I understand everything now. Regards, --D-Day<sup>([[User:D-Day|Wouldn't]] [[User talk:D-Day|you]] [[Special:Contributions/User:D-Day|like]] [[User:D-Day/sandbox|to]] [[User:D-Day/Userboxen|be]] [[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">a pepper</font>]] [[User:D-Day/You know you've been editing for too long on Wikipedia if...|too?]]</sup>) 20:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:Glad to hear it. :) [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 21:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
== Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks ==
You rolled back a change to [[Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks]] because the person hadn't posted to the Talk page (though I had posted seconds later to clarify the change). I would encourage you to also discuss on the Talk page, or you'll be guilty of what you complained about in your edit comment.
The original addition of a very large extension of an official wikipedia policy without any consensus or discussion seems to me to be the original infraction. That is backed by a majority disagreement on the talk page, which at least means that section should be reviewed before it is directly added to official policy. That is why we believe it should be removed, pending discussion. This may be slightly more aggressive, but that is simply because it's an official policy that is deemed to have wide consensus among editors, when, in fact, this policy does not have wide consensus.
I'm interested in how you propose this be handled, going forward, and whether you recognize a distinction between Official Policy pages vs. regular pages with regard to the burden of proof for major additions. I recognize this is a gray area, but I'd at least like you to weigh in on the Talk page, even if only as another vote, to help push this discussion forward.
Thanks. [[User:Strom|Strom]] 19:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
:The proposal was first mentioned on the village pump by someone other than myself, and then proposed on a subpage at [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks/Extension]] and announced at [[Wikipedia talk:No personal attacks]], where others actively edited it, and it got lots of support on the talk page. I added several weeks ago after all objections had been reasonably addressed. I don't know how you call that an infraction, and if you are suggesting a vote then you are way off-base. In any case, just because ''you'' didn't discuss it, doesn't mean it wasn't discussed. Removing first, asking later isn't the kind of courtesy I expect. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 23:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
== [[Template:User transhumanist]] ==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=Template:User_transhumanist You] recently deleted [[Template:User transhumanist]]. You listed the reason as T1: "[[WP:SPEEDY#Templates|divisive]]". I believe that you are incorrect and that the template should have been listed at [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion]]. Specifically, while [[Transhumanism]] is a controversial topic, it is not offensive for one to label oneself as a Transhumanist (much like how separation of church and state is controversial, but [[template:user separation]] is not offensive). Please restore the template and nominate it through this process. Thank you, --[[User:Mareino|M]][[User_talk:Mareino|<font color="orange">@</font>]][[User:Mareino|r]][[Special:Contributions/Mareino|<font color="orange">ē</font>]][[User:Mareino|ino]] 19:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
*[[User_talk:Mareino#Transhumanism|Got your message.]] I thought that the conclusion of the Great Userbox Debate was the exact opposite -- if it's not offensive, don't delete it -- but I admit that I stopped paying attention to that in February b/c no one had deleted any of my userboxes since then, so I believe you when you say the policy has changed again. Anyway, I don't care much about having the userbox in template form. I do want to put the text and icon on my user page, though. Could you please forward that to me? I'm not an admin, so I can't access the content of deleted pages.--[[User:Mareino|M]][[User_talk:Mareino|<font color="orange">@</font>]][[User:Mareino|r]][[Special:Contributions/Mareino|<font color="orange">ē</font>]][[User:Mareino|ino]] 02:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
* Wouldn't it be more appropriate to simply remove the "anti" template and allow users who either believe or support a cause to use the box? People who share similar views wish to find out who else shares that view... it would be rare in my opinion for people to seek others who share their "anti" views. Just as we label ourselves as male/female, our country, or preference in browser, our operating system of choice... we should be able to state if there is a philosophy we support. Transhumanism by its very definition is a field of '''science''', only human beings lift it from its neutrality and give it a need for polarization. I hate the frog as well, should we not remove those templates as they would polarize the community with frog haters and frog lovers at each others throats ;) [[User:Enigmatical|Enigmatical]] 00:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
I've decided to write to you personally as you seem to be open to discussion. Would you please reconsider your deletion of the "User transhumanist" userbox? By speedy deleting it, rather than taking it to TfD, you placed the onus on those who want it undeleted, and it may well not survive simply because transhumanist is not as well known a philosophical position as, say, feminism or atheism. Both "User feminist" and (I believe) "User atheist" have recently been restored, as have many userboxes that indicate that an individual subscribes to a particular religious viewpoint. Whether or not such boxes are restored should not depend on the popularity of a particular philosophy or religion, or on the vagaries of who turns up to vote. Rather, the pattern of recent debates has been to accept that a mere unaggressive statement that a user subscribes to a particular philosophical or religious view is not, in itself, divisive. I can see how the ''anti''-transhumanist box could be considered divisive, as it ''attacks'' a philosophical view, but whether or not the unaggressive expression of a view is divisive cannot depend on whether or not someone creates a userbox attacking it.
Note that this does not affect me personally. I have a personal policy of not using viewpoint templates. Indeed, I would ultimately like to see viewpoint userboxes kept out of template space on the ground that this is not the purpose of template space. However, I believe that a new policy would be required for this to happen (I'd actually be happy to help develop such a policy and work for its acceptance). Under current policy, "User transhumanist" should be treated consistently with, for example, "User feminist". Inconsistency of this type worries me - I think that all reputable positions should be treated equally unless there is some distinguishing feature such as one userbox having aggressive wording (arguably the case with the recent "User objectivist" box). Although I freely admit to being sympathetic to transhumanism, I would feel the same way if the box in question were "User creationist" (i.e. related to a viewpoint with which I am out of sympathy). Mere statements of subscription to a view should not be taken as divisive unless the view in question is such as to bring Wikipedia into disrepute, as would be the case with, say, "User Nazi" or "User racial supremacist". There is no issue like that here.
Thanks for considering my views. I apologise for the length of this, but sometimes a few paras are needed to do justice to one's reasons. [[User:Metamagician3000|Metamagician3000]] 03:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
== :-) ==
And a Hi to you too! [[User:Steveo2|Jared W!!!]] | [[User talk:Steveo2|Write to me, why don't you?]] 10:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
== DRV of [[Bullshido.net]] ==
Since a rough consensus on this DRV [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review&diff=50429073&oldid=50427447] is that the page should be undeleted and listed on AFD, I have done so. See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net]]. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle|talk]]) 14:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
== Statement ==
Hi, I was wondering where is the best place to put this 'comment' or 'statement' I have posted at [[Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Aucaman#Comment_by_User:Khashayar_Karimi]]?! I would like it to be read by those who are voting on the Aucaman ArbCom case and it's decisions, Much thanks --[[User:Kashk|''' - K a s h ''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Kashk|Talk]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Emailuser/Kashk email]</sup> 19:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
== regarding rejected arbitration case "merecat" ==
I'd like to know what exactly I'm supposed to do then, to deal with this kind of abusiveness.
It sort of puts me in the position of "Great, theres no consequences for abusive people, and nothing to be done about it, and no real authority to contact." It reduces the situation to anarchy, and it
offers no solutions or consequences for blatant abusiveness.
Under such conditions, I fail to see how wikipedia can operate,
and it makes me think i am probably wasting my time here in the first
place.
[[User:Prometheuspan|Prometheuspan]] 19:29, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[[User talk:Prometheuspan/ArbcomCase]]
<spewn out elsewhere>
In any case, I am slowly coming to the realization that Wikipedia is a mostly headless beneficient dictatorship combined with a loose level of consensus process resulting actually in pack psychology driven anarchy, and, I will probably quit participating, because i don't see that theres any sane way to deal with abusiveness, and the policies in place that do deal with the issues require exorbitant amounts of time and energy, which means that only the very worst problems are ever resolved, and editors who are clearly gaming the system and manipulating and lying can continue to do so as long as they are clever enough not to become a really big pain to some administrator.
[[User:Prometheuspan|Prometheuspan]] 19:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
==Congrats==
You've made some RfA nominations recently that have hit a brick wall and failed. Well, finally you got one through (Ezeu) :-). Keep the nominations coming of these good candidates who may not be "obvious" picks to the rest of us, someone's got to do it. [[User:NoSeptember|<font color = "green">'''NoSeptember'''</font>]] [[User talk:NoSeptember|<font color = "green"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 20:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:I was speaking from memory, so I must have a faulty memory :-P. But, yes, <u>do</u> make some more nominations. [[User:NoSeptember|<font color = "green">'''NoSeptember'''</font>]] [[User talk:NoSeptember|<font color = "green"><sup>''talk''</sup></font>]] 21:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
== FourthAve Arb hearing ==
Hi there. {{vandal|FourthAve}} has
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&diff=50675525&oldid=50673728 indicated] that they were unaware that the Arbitration was ongoing, that they were supposed to remain actively involved, and seem confused and unclear on what the process and possible outcome are. Can you or someone else on ArbCom (or a non-Tony Clerk, as he's a party) help bring them up to speed? This seems particularly important as the case has moved, apparently without them being aware of what was going on, up to the one-vote-from-closing point where it is now, with a one year ban of FourthAve as the primary result about to kick off.
Thank you. [[User:Georgewilliamherbert|Georgewilliamherbert]] 01:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
== RFC on RJII ==
Could you also restore the discussion page? [[User:The Ungovernable Force|The Ungovernable Force]] 04:41, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks a million! [[User:The Ungovernable Force|The Ungovernable Force]] 05:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
==A favor please==
I feel privileged to say a hello to you. In the month of September 2005, your vote elevated me to be an administrator. I know the life here is exciting and full of challenges. I would request you to please spare few moments for me, and favor me with your comments and suggestions ([[User talk:Bhadani|here please]]) on my performance here. Regards. --[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]] 09:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
==Arb Case Mistake==
Hi, im confused about something said in a report on the Arbirition case against me.
In this report, it states that i had warred on [[Gothic Metal]], and been placed on Probation. It also says i violated [[WP:CITE]]. I want to know how this came about, when both myself and [[User:Parasti]] provided diffs to me citing sources. It also says this as a 'finding of fact'. In which case, here is the speficic sections which falsly accuse me of not providing sources, and the evidence that supported this, and the accompnying diffs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu#Failure_to_cite_sources_and_original_research
[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-03-13/Arbitration_report|Finding Of Fact Contrary To Provided Diffs]]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=next&oldid=35843633 Diff from Evidence], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=36137578&oldid=36122335 Diff from Evidence], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=prev&oldid=29286574 Diff from Evidence], taken from [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu/Evidence#Edit_wars|Parasti's Evidence]].
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gothic_metal/Archive_5#A_Few_Websites Diff from Evidence], taken from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu/Evidence#Edit_wars|Leys Evidence]]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=next&oldid=36122335 Diff from Evidence], taken from [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu/Evidence#Current_Debate|Leys Evidence]].
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=next&oldid=29238395 Diff from Evidence], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=36137578&oldid=36122335 Diff from Evidence] taken from [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu/Evidence#Gothic_Metal_Rewrite|Leys Evidence]]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=next&oldid=29238395 Diff from Evidence], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=36137578&oldid=36122335 Diff from Evidence], taken from [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu/Evidence#Gothic_Metal_Rewrite|Leys Evidence]]
I even went as far as to quoting and explaining the sources on the talk page, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=next&oldid=35875237].
I got all these diffs from the archive of the Arbirition case, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gothic_metal&diff=36137578&oldid=36122335 Here].
I just want to know why all eight claimed i provided no sources, even though another involved party provided diffs of me providing sources, and i repeatedly gave diffs of me supplying sources. Im not having a go, im just confused how 8 Arbirrators managed to claim a 'finding of fact' despite over 10 diffs from two different users =\ [[User:Leyasu|Ley Shade]] 15:02, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
:No one claimed that you provided no sources at all, but that you failed to do so for many of your disputed edits. I still think the [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Leyasu#Failure_to_cite_sources_and_original_research|findong of fact]], with those rather damning diffs and quote, sum it up pretty well. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]]·[[User talk:Dmcdevit|t]] 18:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
==Regarding Arbcon==
Hi, just thought I'd ask you a question regarding the ArbCon case...
Over a month ago you judged the last one, you rejected the case... the current case is basically the same thing rehashed (litterally the same info from an old incident). While I've been back from my block I haven't been disrupive, or violated any Wikipedia policies. You stated before "There's no need for a case at least until he comes back and is disruptive again."..
As I haven't been disruptive since returning from my block, I'm just curious as to why you now think the case has a foot to stand on? Thanks. - [[User:Deathrocker|Deathrocker]] 07:08, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
: To answer the case myself, [[User:Leyasu|Myself]], [[User:Sceptre|Sceptre]] and [[User:Tony_Sidaway|Tony]] have all noticed incidents of disruption since Deathrocker's unblocking, two of which are admins. All evidence is provided by all three of us with diffs on the arbcom case request. [[User:Leyasu|Ley Shade]] 07:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Tony doesn't mention any "evidence of disruption" by myself, if you read the case he doesn't even mention me, he only talks about how he has recently blocked you (Leyasu) so he isn't going to act as a clerk on the case.
So that leaves yourself and Sceptre, which I have disputed with diffs, giving reasons as to why the case is ridiculous. Sceptre has even admitted been bias infavour of you in the past, so it really holds no water. - [[User:Deathrocker|Deathrocker]] 07:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
: Your welcome to disagree with your actions, if you wish. As for your guilt in any of it, that is what the arbcon will deciede despite the protestion of any of the involved parties. [[User:Leyasu|Ley Shade]] 11:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
== Reaffirming nomination ==
[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Lar|My RfA]] will probably be going live on 1 or 2 May (waiting on one co-nom who is out of town) as we have discussed. I appreciate your kindness and effort in writing your nomination for me. I'd like to ask you to "re-timestamp" your nom if you would, either by replacing your first signature or just signing it again. (this is on advice of someone that noms should be relatively recently timestamped, especially if there are co-noms). Hope that's not too much bother. Oh, and if you have any comments or concerns, on my questions, or answers that would be great to hear about as well... I think we've already talked through some. Thanks again! '''<font color="green">[[User:Lar/Esperanza|+]]</font><font color="blue">[[Special:Emailuser/Lar|+]]</font>'''[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 13:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
== thanks ==
Hi Dmcdevit - I'm very pleased and deeply appreciate your compliments and support. However, I've done little janitorial work, and I want to work on such tasks to learn and contribute. I know a lot of RfA-worthy people who serve in such jobs with determination before asking for the bigger tools. I must give myself some time to refine my temperament. In the past few days, my colleagues like you here have done me many honors. This made me feel a need to be more honest with myself and useful around here.
Please spare some time to visit [[Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow]] and give me some feedback on how to improve myself. Thanks again for your kind offer, and I hope we'll have some good opportunities to work together. [[User:Rama's Arrow|Rama's Arrow]] 20:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
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