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Thanks for correcting the formula on the speed of [[sound]]. The formula I was thinking of was 1 ft/s, but I got sucked in by the metric units and combined them. Good thing I wasn't sending a probe to Mars! :) [[User:Kmccoy|kmccoy]] 17:55, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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I would like to know why you reverted the change to the formula I made in the [[YUV]] article.

I know there is many formulas on the web, and most of them differs, but I've found this formula more accurate than the one in the article. Here are the 2 sources I took the formula from, as well as my company source (though the formula is clearly not Copyrighted stuff). Please do not take in consideration rounding errors.

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# http://www.fourcc.org/fccyvrgb.php This site contains some formulas and a discussion going on this particular topic. The latest formulas are the one used in my modification.

# The [http://www.fxscriptreference.org/rgb-yuv-color.html Official FXScript reference]. The formula used under the header '''Manual Color Conversion''' is the same with some rounding errors. Note that it was taken from http://www.cse.msu.edu/~cbowen/docs/yuvtorgb.html.

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:Your numbers are the Y,Cb,Cr coefficients, as used in the CCIR 601 standard. This is not the same as YUV (defined in ITU-R BT.470, I think), although our article wrongly says that it is. Incidentally, the first web page you quote mentions this difference, and then goes on to ignore it! [http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/AudioVideoGraphicsSpec_5fR1 This web page] (briefly) explains the difference. I also dispute the addition of 0.5 to U and V in our article, as that should be done only to Cb and Cr. U and V can be negative. Cb and Cr are only allowed to be positive, because they are meant to be digitized.

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:If you agree, I think we should change the article to make it clear that YUV is not the same as Y,Cb,Cr. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 21:11, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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::Makes sense. Thank you for your explanation.

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:::Glad to be of service. At least our little discussion led me to discover that the articles on YUV and other colour spaces were badly mixed up. I have done my best to fix them, but there is probably more work to do. For example, there is stuff in "[[YUV]]" that really belongs to a general article on [[colour television]]. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 15:30, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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::Deleted "''Thermionic devices (valves, or vacuum tubes) are even more electronically robust and scalable, which is why they are still used in high-powered radio transmitters. There is no opportunity to (directly) achieve complementary symmetry with valves, however. Transformers can be used to work around this, at least in the usual narrow-band case.''" The point about size and robustness is covered in the [[vacuum tube]] article. The point about complementarity does not seem to be mentioned anywhere else, so I just reinstated it.

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:I had forgotten about Heron's Day. Thank you for reminding me and giving me a pleasant start to my day. --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 08:23, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

::Deleted "''Before man had either of these devices at his disposal, he utilized saturable reactors for audio amplification, cleverly exploiting a non-linear property of a certain class of transformer cores.''" We mentioned this on a talk page somewhere, but it hasn't found its way into an article yet, so I just created a new stub for it: [[magnetic amplifier]].

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::Deleted "''TWT tubes make the 'conduction channel' into a (transmission line) waveguide, making them competitive in broadband RF application. Some tubes, like magnetrons and reflex klystrons, combind magnetics and tubes. These are efficient (usually narrow-band) RF producers and still find use in RADARs and microwave ovens.''" I just created a new stub for the TWT. We already have articles on the [[klystron]] and the [[magnetron]], but I added links to them from the [[vacuum tube]] article.

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::Deleted "''In a [[vacuum tube]] (British: valve) ... they might have been called "transconductors." ''" The operation of vacuum tubes is described in that article. The next paragraph contains all you need to know about why transistors are so called.

== Los Solidos ==

Hello,

:I can now honestly claim that no unique information has been lost, but I promise to be more careful next time!. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 08:43, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I noticed your Latin King edit and thought the subject might be of some interest to you and I was wondering if you could help me clean up Los Solidos page? I've been working on it for quite some time and can't figure how or what has to be done to remove the clean up noticed and such. [[User:Veddernarian|Veddernarian]] ([[User talk:Veddernarian|talk]]) 23:00, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

:Hi Veddernarian. I know nothing about this subject but I've cleaned up the article for you. The main things were to add more wiki links and move the references to the right places in the text. Maybe you could help me by checking that I put the references in the right places. All the best --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 13:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Looks good, thank you! [[User:Veddernarian|Veddernarian]] ([[User talk:Veddernarian|talk]]) 13:46, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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Heron, I can see you are trying to clarify by simplifying when you change "refers to" into "is"; but I'm not sure that is what you are accomplishing. For example, the resulting statement (from [[plant]]) "..a plant is usually a living organism in Kingdom Plantae" does not really make sense. Is it sometimes not living? or sometimes not an organism? or sometimes not in the Plantae? (last is the original intent) I'm not sure the original sentence made all that much more sense, although "...usually refers to.." does put the uncertainty on the term ("plant") and not the predicate. I guess it could be rewritten to "A plant usually is..." I would point out that while constructions using the verb "to be" are simple and generally straight-forward, they really should be avoided as much as possible in writing because they can be over-simplistic and boring. I try always to use any other verb but "is", although I usually fail in that attempt (hard to come up with good verbs 8^). Still, if we had that many (as you are finding) "refers to", that verb is probably overworked here too - [[User:Marshman|Marshman]] 21:24, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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:Hi Marshman. I agree with your first criticism. "A plant is usually..." is not one of my best creations, and I shall try not to write any more statements like that. We seem to agree, though, that there are too many instances of ''refers to''. I have found hundreds in my latest search, and many of them are literally incorrect. Often, ''refers to'' is used in Wikipedia as verbal [[duct tape]], to join any [[part of speech]] to any other part of speech without having to construct a proper sentence. As for ''is'', I would say that it should be treated like any other word, and used in moderation. I may have inserted too many ''ises'' recently, but I think they are an improvement on what went before.

I have removed the Wikitree cite because it is an open wiki, which are not [[WP:RS]]. I hope you've learned anything from this. [[User:Miraclepine|ミラ]][[User talk:Miraclepine|P]] 17:08, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

:You will be pleased to know that I have finished my present ''refers to'' patrol, having exhausted the results from the Wiki search engine (I gave up when it got to Z and then went back to A again), but I will keep looking out for obvious mis-wordings.

:Fair enough :) --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 17:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

:It occurred to me that perhaps the Wiki syntax is to blame for the rash of ''refers tos''. The headword in each article is, by convention, printed in bold, which is done by enclosing it in three pairs of apostrophes. In the source text, these look a bit like quotation marks, and might mislead some contributors into thinking that the headword is a reference to a word, not just a word. I can't think of a way to stop this tendency. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 10:23, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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::I think you are exactly right. "refers to" follows because the article title word is, at that point, being looked at as word or term to be defined as opposed to a "thing" to be written about. I would argue that with proper construction, "refers to" is not always an erroneous way to start, especially for some technical terms; however, it is way over-used and may be improperly used in most cases. I got concerned because my first notice that you were changing these things was on the [[plant]] page where the change did not help (I think that intro looks pretty good now). I would suggest you write a paragraph about the tendency and how to avoid it in the help pages on Wiki style or the like. Not everyone reads those before digging in, but the presence there gives editors a place to point to when changing someone's work. It does take a minute to see how the "refers to" and "is" constructions are saying something different, and a Wikipedians first reaction is likely to be "No, that is not what I meant". Let me know if you decide to write something and I will be glad to help out - [[User:Marshman|Marshman]] 17:22, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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:::I would have written a note on the subject, but then I remembered that we already have one: see "[[refers to]]". It covers everything we have said, except my "apostrophes" theory. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 18:29, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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This getting too long, hope you don't mind if I just butcher the whole section. 8-> History is useful if you care. I care little for attributions, hope you don't mind, (at least ''I'' know who I'm talking to). I've re-read chapter 19 in the ARRL handbook a couple of times, and I think I see the errors between us now. I've rewritten the impedance section to hopefully be more correct.

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The key here to me is that in the [[Antenna (electronics)|antenna]] article, the numbers are king, as that is what is most relevant to someone measuring and building an antenna. The words were wrong, so you tried to change the numbers, which annoyed me. :) I've rewritten the impedance section to hopefully gloss over the theory without getting it wrong. The rest of the theory really belongs under [[SWR]] where you've already put it.

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There is in reality no difference between the two. The point of SWR is that the reflected power is not just reflected once, but infinitely until it is attenuated or otherwise escapes, forming a standing wave in the line. Ideally, the power comes from the source and is absorbed by the load. Realistically, it bounces back and forth a few times in between, increasing the power seen in the transmission line, increasing both current and voltage along with the losses caused by high current/voltage.

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Trying to think in AC hurts my head and bends my DC intiutions which will lead me astray every time.

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So, we care about SWR because:

# SWR increases power in the line beyond the actual transmitted power, which increases losses in general.

# Matched impedances give ideal power transfer; mismatched impedances give high SWR.

# Higher power in the transmission line also leaks back into the radio, which causes it to heat up. (This is a big concern for solid state radios, but the high voltages could cause tube radios to arc as well.)

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I think the rest of this is moot, but perhaps it bears discussion anyway.

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:My only point of disagreement with you, it seems to me, is that I think that there are some situations, like my floating waveguide, where you can measure SWR in terms of power flow without being able to put your finger on a current or a voltage.

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I don't think so. Without current or voltage, you are measuring something other than SWR. Sure, you can calculate it from power, but that's not what you are measuring.

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:you can define SWR as the ratio of [[electric field]] strengths, rather than of voltages

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::P.S. I expanded the [[SWR]] article. Please have a look and check that it makes sense to you. I wrote my extra bits from your voltage-ratio viewpoint, which is how the original article did it, but added a note at the end about the E field definition. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 13:23, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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You did a great job on SWR. I'll have to re-read that again and see what other holes need plugging. For instance, I doubt 100% reflection is possible except in theory, due to line losses, which are exacerbated by high SWR. Also, you made no mention of complex reflection coefficent. There might be room also to mention that phase differences (caused by the complex reactance) can be used to measure line length. Also, I'm not 100% sure if min/max refers to minimum/maximum voltage or min/max magnitude of voltage.

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Also, as most of the article is now not from the sources listed, I changed it to a references section. It might be nice to also add links to the references section like the one I deleted above that is still in history. ;-P

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::Ok, if you wanna discuss it more, [[user talk:ssd|let me know]]. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]] 03:02, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

:::In SWR, I just expanded the references section and copied/expanded the practical swr points listed above. I think the SWR article would now be perfect except for the following missing points. I'm not sure how to add them (yet). --[[User:Ssd|ssd]] 11:55, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

# &rho; is complex -- it has a phase angle associated with it. I don't know if conjugate impedance matching should be mentioned along with this or not.

## Yes, I remember your earlier comment that &rho; could be complex, but I didn't put it in the article because I didn't understand its implications. We need to mention this in the SWR article only if it is relevant to the calculation of SWR. Otherwise, it should go somewhere else: in "[[transmission line]]" or "[[impedance matching]]", for example.

##:I'm not gonna argue placement--anywhere &rho; is mentioned is fine. However, it not just ''could'' be complex, it always is...just sometimes (and this is very rare), the imaginary part is 0. Non-zero imaginary part implies the antenna is reactive or capacitive. This has a huge effect on SWR. The extra reactance means the voltage and current are out of phase with each other, and the SWR will vary depending on where you measure it. Or at least, the complex swr varies. I'm not sure if the magnitude varies or not. I have an MFJ-269 antenna analyzer; it measures complex impedance and calculates SWR from it, I think. At least, it displays both. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]]

# The equations for diaelectric and resistive (i^2 R) losses should probably be listed somewhere.

## Again, these might be better discussed in "[[transmission line]]", unless they actually affect the SWR (and I don't know whether this is the case).

##:They affect swr, mostly by reducing it through loss. More to the point, high swr increases these losses. Seems like a good place to mention it, but I'll look at [[transmission line]] too. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]]

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::ugh. You're right. Too late, already put 'em here. Feel free to copy relevant parts where they go. I'd do it, but I'm on a slow connection tonight, it's painful enough to do this little bit of editing. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]] 04:26, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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== Travelling wave tube ==

Thank you.

You apparently moved [[Travelling wave tube]] to [[TWTA]]. I'm a bit surprised you didn't do the reverse, but more to the point, [[TWT]] already was a redirect to the longer name, and moving the longer name to the acronym made TWT a double redirect...which needed to be fixed... (now fixed). Lemme know if you change your mind and want to swap the redirects around. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]] 01:39, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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:Thanks for fixing that. I seem to remember that I was merging two articles, so I wasn't paying much attention to the existence of redirects. I normally expect the main article to have the long name, and the abbreviations to be redirects, but I must have got it wrong that time. We now have:

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:but I agree with you that the following would be better:

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:Would you like to fix it or shall I? -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 08:21, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'd fix it now except the timing is bad. Why not go ahead and fix it yourself--probably the best thing to do is to move to travelling wave tube amplifier and then fix the double redirects. --[[User:Ssd|ssd]] 12:43, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

:It is done. I hope I got it right this time. :-) -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 20:57, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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:Thank you for that information, and for fixing the article. I don't know how we could express your last point in a neutral way, so I think you were wise to leave it out of the article. :-) -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 20:49, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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==IS HERON ANTI-SEMITIC?==

: (but it's today, I was confused) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 06:12, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Heron left a message for me in my page, where he writes: "Oi, Ghitis, stop your ramblings..." The expression "oi" is typically Jewish; when published by a non-Jew, it has an anti-Semitic intention. Is Heron Jew? If not, I am accusing him of overstepping his authority. He must delete his offending lines, or I will persecute him before he infects others. I am a reputable scientist who has contributed to Humanity. Look at WHO IS WHO in many fields. I will continue contributing to WIKIPEDIA, which I consider as a most valuable project. I see it as more than an ENCYCLOPEDIA, and I am looking for ways to make it more than a source of information. See my reverted contribution on

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::Heron can certainly speak for himself (and I apologise to him for butting in; the all-caps edit summary caught my eye), but perhaps you (Ghitis) should [[oi|look up the word]] before spouting off. The knee-jerk accusation of racism is bad enough, but please be advised of our [[wikipedia:no legal threats|policy on legal threats]] (i.e., don't make them or you'll be blocked from editing). As for your contributions, I haven't fully reviewed them, but I do not see how he has "overstepped his authority"; everyone has the same "authority" over articles here, so I would be careful when making such accusations. This is a [[wiki]] after all; you're advised not to submit your work if you do not want it (mercilessly) edited by others. So let's try to work together, eh? -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 07:29, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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:Thank you, Hadal. Ghitis has slightly misquoted me. I actually said, in an edit summary and not on his user page, "Oi, Ghitis, stop replacing our articles with your ramblings!" He conveniently left out the "replacing our articles" bit, which was the reason for my objection. Other than that, I shan't comment on his rant. Fellow Wikipedians can look at our contribution histories and judge for themselves. ;-) -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 08:25, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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:Having read the article on [[Oi]], I see that in some contexts it does have a racist connotation of which I was not aware. Where I come from, it is just an expression of indignation (as used by [[Harry Enfield]], for example). If Ghitis took it any other way, then I apologise to him for causing offence. However, I stand by my criticism of his contributions. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 12:58, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It may interest you to note that "refers to" has crept back in to the lead of [[Computer architecture]]. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 17:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

:'''Heron and Hadal''' are reacting instinctively. They know that I have been insulted by calling my contributions "ramblings." When "oi" is associated to the insult, it is anti-Semitic. The canard that I'm threatening with legal procedures is also typical: the victim is the culprit.

I admire Wikipedia, and will defend it against those who use their position of authority to create malignant atmosphere against people they despise instinctively. I believe that the present matter ought not to be discussed in this forum: it should be brought to a higher authority. A lesson might be learned. I do not get angry, I just love to educate, and have published on the subject. In the meantime, please read my contribution on WISDOM, in the History of that page. I did not replace other contributor's articles, nor have I edited them mercilessly. I just added educated ideas that took me a long time to develop. To call them "rants" is to add insult to insult. Not in the spirit of encyclopedists, I daresay. [[Ghitis]], 13 Aug 2004 18:40 (Israel time).

:Thank you, SpinningSpark. I don't like the current lead at all, as it now contains three different definitions of 'architecture' and the first two aren't very helpful. What do you think? --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 17:21, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

::Well, I thought I should tell you because you looked like someone who might do something about it! If I didn't already know (or at least think I know) what computer architecture is, that lead wouldn't help me in the least. [[User:Spinningspark|<b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b>]] 17:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

:Is it any more helpful now? --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 17:48, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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:::[[User:Heron|Heron]] But in the article it is mentioned that this word has its origin from the Quechua language, which is called “Pampa” for them, just as it is in the Spanish and Portuguese languages spread among the inhabitants of South America also called “Pampa”, so can we say when translating this word into languages other than English that these plains are called Pampa? Then regarding English, where did the letter “s” come from in this word, as long as this word is not an English term, and it must be kept as it is, unless the “s” here is for the plural? Please respond to these two questions.[[User:محمد ماجد السورميري|محمد ماجد السورميري]] ([[User talk:محمد ماجد السورميري|talk]]) 21:17, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

::::Yes, I would call it ''pampa'' in non-English languages if there is no other established usage. In English the ''-s'' seems to be the English plural ending, with an example of singular ''pampas'' from 1957 by a writer who perhaps didn't know the origin of the word. He might have been influenced by pre-existing forms like ''pampas grass'' and ''pampas sheep''. Nowadays most people (including the OED) write ''pampas'' unless they are deliberately using the foreign form. --[[User:Heron|Heron]] ([[User talk:Heron#top|talk]]) 18:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

:::::[[User:Heron|Heron]] One last question, excuse me for being so long. Is the word "Pampas" in the English language taken directly from the Quechua language? Or was the word taken from Spanish or Portuguese?.[[User:محمد ماجد السورميري|محمد ماجد السورميري]] ([[User talk:محمد ماجد السورميري|talk]]) 18:50, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

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can this Wikipedia people just shorten it so that someone can rap up things faster this is nearly 10 o'clock and I'm still doing one assignment God help me oh and this people in Jesus name amen [[User:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA]] ([[User talk:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|talk]]) 20:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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::okay thanks for filling me in on that Heron [[User:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA]] ([[User talk:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|talk]]) 21:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

::I just wanted to know is your actual name Heron . I hope I'm not a pain in the but , just curious [[User:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA]] ([[User talk:Samuel Christy DAULAYEFA|talk]]) 21:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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