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The result was '''delete'''. '''[[User:Spinningspark|<span style="background:#fafad2; color:#C08000;">Spinning</span>]][[User talk:Spinningspark|<span style="color:#4840a0;">Spark</span>]]''' 12:23, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
===[[Web-Developer Server Suite]]===
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[[User:Vorlion|Vorlion]] ([[User talk:Vorlion|talk]]) 19:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
<small>— [[User:Vorlion|Vorlion]] ([[User talk:Vorlion|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vorlion|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
:The 'references to 3rd party sources' you added all discuss XAMPP. None of them mention Wamp-Developer_Server at all. We need reliable independent sources about this topic, not about other software packages. Stackoverflow and Serverfault are web forums (They do not meet the [[WP:RS|sourcing guidelines]]) and do not build the case for notability. For the benefit of other participants in this discussion, I'll mention that Vorlion has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:LAMP_(software_bundle)&diff=prev&oldid=106242893 self identified]] himself as the publisher of this package. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]])
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::[[User:Chris the Paleontologist|CtP]] International Journal of Advancements in Technology, Vol 3, No 1 (2012) - http://www.ijict.org/index.php/ijoat/article/view/open-source-software/pdf_30 - "Web-Developer Server Suite" is listed as being one of the '''major''' (can read as - notable) projects in the web-related-area... Right next to [[Xampp]]. That's one more citation I'll add to the article. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vorlion|Vorlion]] ([[User talk:Vorlion|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vorlion|contribs]]) 21:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::Okay, that's a good starting point. But I still feel that the suite lacks the "significant coverage" required to meet the GNG. Inclusion in a list doesn't necessarily mean it's notable (things are similar on Wikipedia—things which aren't considered "notable" can still be included on lists). With regards to your dissatisfaction with the GNG as a tool to assess notability for Web.Developer Server Suite, the only other guideline which might be applicable is [[Wikipedia:Notability (software)]] (although it's not really a "guideline" at all, just an essay). The criteria for inclusion are quite similar to the GNG, though. [[User:Chris the Paleontologist|<span style='font-family: "Verdana"; color:#c37a1c'>''CtP''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Chris the Paleontologist|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chris the Paleontologist|c]])</small> 22:12, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::::The 'International Journal of Advancements in Technology' article includes a list of OSS projects at the end. According to the reference in that article, the list was copied from Wikipedia's [[List of free and open-source software packages]]. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 01:08, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::Hadn't even realized that. It ought to be disregarded completely, then. [[User:Chris the Paleontologist|<span style='font-family: "Verdana"; color:#c37a1c'>''CtP''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Chris the Paleontologist|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chris the Paleontologist|c]])</small> 11:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' clearly fails WP:GNG lacking WP:RS. aggressive [[WP:BLUDGEON]]ing does not advance notability. [[User:LibStar|LibStar]] ([[User talk:LibStar|talk]]) 23:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - no evidence of [[WP:N|notability]]; not even close to enough significant coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to establish that this product is notable. An attempt to include '''Notability''' as an in-article sub-heading to answer talk-page / AFD criticism is a pretty good indication that the product struggles to establish notability against [[WP:GNG]]. Though it's a [[WP:User essays|user essay]], [[WP:NSOFT]] gives a pretty good idea of what the WP community would expect to see to establish notability in this particular case. Also agree with the above - the bludgeoning and [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]] are uncalled for. Try to keep it [[WP:CIV|civilised]]. [[User: Stalwart111|'''Stalwart''']][[User talk:Stalwart111|'''<span style="color:green;">111</span>''']] 00:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Only citation is one that's using content taken from Wikipedia. No indication that the software is notable, as demonstrated by the lack of significant coverage in sources.--[[User:Xanchester|<span style="color:#87A96B;">'''xanchester'''</span>]] [[User talk:Xanchester|<span style="color:#A40000;">('''t''')</span>]] 06:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Software|list of Software-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 17:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)</small>
* '''delete''' trivially minor distro of other notable packages. This might be notable if it was unusually widely used, or some similar reason, but that sort of claim needs sourcing and this has none. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 14:16, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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