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== Use of pilings under the gravel bed ==
In the section "Engineering Feats", it is mentioned: "The piers are not buried into the seabed, but rather rest on a bed of gravel." It should I think be added that gravel is placed over a large number of 5 foot diameter steel pilings driven into the soil at the bottom of the gulf - they could not reach bedrock as it was too deep. It is the pilings that provide support to the weight of the towers. [[User:Tclose|Tony]] ([[User talk:Tclose|talk]]) 16:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll upload photos as soon as I can download them from my camera. [[User:David.Monniaux|David.Monniaux]] 22:19, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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[[Millau Viaduct]] 2,460 metres without access bridges, therefore is this the longest cable-stayed bridge in the world! --[[User:145.254.126.182|145.254.126.182]] 06:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
:So? Rio-Antirio is 2,880.4 meters. Is there a particular rule for excluding access '''bridges''' from the length of the '''bridge'''? And exactly where in the [[Millau Viaduct]] article do you read that the access bridges have been excluded from the 2,460 meters? Also, what is the length of the access bridges? Is it more than 420.4 meters? I am reverting your edit. [[User:NikoSilver|<span style="color:white;background:#778"> <span style="background:#889">N<span style="background:#99a">i<span style="background:#aab">k<span style="background:#bbc">o<span style="background:#ccd"><b>S</b></span><b>il</b></span><b>v</b></span><b>e</b></span><b>r</b></span> </span>]] <sup><
:: [[Millau Viaduct]]: eight-cable-stayed spans, seven piers, 204 m + 6 x 342 m + 204 m = 2,460 meters > [[Rio-Antirio bridge]]: five-cable-stayed spans, four piers, 286 m + 3 x 560 m + 286 m = 2,252 meters --[[User:145.254.244.65|145.254.244.65]] 18:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)<br> and with access bridges: [[Oresund Bridge]]: 3x120m+1x133m+18x140 + (three-cable-stayed spans) 301 m + 490 m + 301 m + 4x120m+24x140m = 7845 m >> 2880 m
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:(d) Other____________
Kindly choose a,b,c or d, just for the record. Thanks. [[User:NikoSilver|<span style="color:white;background:#778"> <span style="background:#889">N<span style="background:#99a">i<span style="background:#aab">k<span style="background:#bbc">o<span style="background:#ccd"><b>S</b></span><b>il</b></span><b>v</b></span><b>e</b></span><b>r</b></span> </span>]] <sup><
(d). continuous deck = distance of expansion joints? Both bridges have two expansion joints. (see also [http://www.maurer-soehne.de/de/Bruecken/Projektinfos/Proj_06gb%20RION_ANTIRION%2004022005%20Version_neu.pdf] and [http://www.maurer-soehne.de/de/Bruecken/Projektinfos/Proj_04gb%20MILLAU%2002022005%20Version_neu.pdf]). Normally the expansion joints of the [[Rio-Antirio bridge]] should be after the cable-stayed spans = 2252 m < 2460 m(see also picture of maurer-info).
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--[[User:145.254.245.86|145.254.245.86]] 02:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! Would you care to do the honours and include that information in the article?[[User:NikoSilver|<span style="color:white;background:#778"> <span style="background:#889">N<span style="background:#99a">i<span style="background:#aab">k<span style="background:#bbc">o<span style="background:#ccd"><b>S</b></span><b>il</b></span><b>v</b></span><b>e</b></span><b>r</b></span> </span>]] <sup><span style="font-size:x-small;">[[User talk:NikoSilver|(T)]] [[Special:Emailuser/NikoSilver|@]] [[Special:Contributions/NikoSilver|(C)]]</span></sup> 13:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
== Map ==
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How similar or different is it? A "See also" link would be welcome.
:Hmm.. [[Strait of Messina]] is just a stub, and [[Strait of Messina bridge]] or [[Messina bridge]] are non-exsistant. [[User:Sverdrup|
:I've heard about it alright - apparently going down like a lead brick with the environmentalists. There is of course the completed bridge between Denmark and Sweden (there's a tunnel too is there not, for rail?). One could conceiveably group the Channel Tunnel with such projects. There's some unlikely-to-be-done scheme thought up too to connect Spain and Morocco I believe. It'd be interesting to have a catalogue of the major Alpine tunnels (cross-border) too (Mont Blanc, Gottard?). Then there's that mad bridge in France, but despite being a similarly huge scheme, it's not the same category really - only being in one state. I'll tell you something though - long will be the day before Ireland is linked to Britain. We'd sooner see a tunnel to Spain I suspect! :o) [[User:Zoney|Zoney]] 11:24, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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Hello.
The official website (English) spells the cities Rion and Antirion (
A [http://www.viamichelin.com/ Michelin map] spells them Rio and Antirio (
Is there a Greek in the room ready to give us the correct spelling ?
: Yes, there is. "Rion-Antirion" (
:: Thank you very much for your answer. Besides, I'll ask my mother, about this [[katharevousa]] form, since she learnt modern Greek.--[[User:Olivier Debre|Olivier Debre]] 14:49, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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it is worth noting that the names of many Greek locations crossed over to other languages while in their [[katharevousa]] form, so it would be handy to Keep Rion - Antirion in their 'older' spelling. A better reason is that it is the spelling the bridge people themselves use, as well as the form many cities use as their latin transliteration. Until this is formally addressed by the Greek Gov't the older spelling ought to be preferred.-Cafeeine 23 Nov 2005
:Yeah, basically we should have both, and use whichever one seems more prevalent in any given situation. In this particular case, that's "Rion-Antirion", though not by a huge margin. The Greek government differs on this depending on which level of government and which ministry; some prefer newer transliterations, others prefer older ones, and others use both depending on who wrote the particular document. As far as this bridge goes, both spellings can be found in official government documents, though the bridge's own website is consistent in using the one with the final 'n's. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 22:21, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
▲== Toll? ==
The ending "n" in Greek is mainly still used nowadays in certain dialects (notably [[Cypriot Greek]] and [[Pontic Greek]]). It has been deprecated since, even originally, it was nicknamed as the "[[euphonic]] n". Katharevousa and Koine Greek (not to mention ancient Greek of course) are only one aspect of the story. In Greece it doesn't make any difference if you use it or not, but using it may sound a little more official. I would say that both are valid and that the difference could be described in English as that between "do not" and "don't"; the first sounding more official, but still both correct, especially if you think we are talking about euphonics and about geographic names. [[User:NikoSilver|Niko]][[User talk:N!|Silver]] 22:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
== Toll? ==
It's 13,50 for cars now.
Is there a toll on the bridge? It'd be interesting to know, as here in Ireland, they are tolling road projects considered "big" here. But such projects are tiny compared to such endeavours as this - so I'm curious to know (are we as usual, being ripped off in the most expensive country in Europe). [[User:Zoney|Zoney]] 11:30, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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[[Image:Location-RioAntirio-AK.png]] [[User:Leonard G.|Leonard G.]] 7 July 2005 00:51 (UTC)
To my knowledge the ___location is accurate considering the scale of the map. Check [http://www.gefyra.gr/English/framesetbig.htm this] (you'll need to click "A great dream" and then "connecting Europe" -the map shows bridge ___location). [[User:NikoSilver|<
<s>PS.I'm gonna remove the note from the article too.</s> (done earlier by someone else)
==Questions==
Where is the information on how many deaths occurred in the building of the bridge?
Where is the information on cost, materials, weight, etc.?
The page seems quite imcomplete and how many deaths occurred will attract traffic as I've not found that information anywhere yet. [[Special:Contributions/184.7.105.97|184.7.105.97]] ([[User talk:184.7.105.97|talk]]) 07:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
:Is "number of deaths" a standard item when discussing building projects? While I can see the merit of mentioning deaths when they've occurred, it seems odd to assume that they ''must'' have done.
: As for cost, the page already mentions:
:: ''"The total cost of the bridge was about € 630,000,000, funded by Greek state funds"''
: I do agree, though, that information on materials would be a worthwhile addition. Mass... perhaps. Given the unusual approach taken, a mention of how many tonnes of gravel were used for the bedding would be interesting; a list of how much concrete, cabling etc would probably be a bit excessive. [[User:Torak|Torak]] ([[User talk:Torak|talk]]) 09:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
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== Clearance below? ==
57m according to the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rio_AntiRio_Bridge_Elevation-fr.svg illustration used in the text], source?----[[User:Bancki|Bancki]] ([[User talk:Bancki|talk]]) 08:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
::I'm not sure of this; it seems that the 57m dimension may be the length of the short central span of bridge. But I may be wrong! [[User:Arrivisto|Arrivisto]] ([[User talk:Arrivisto|talk]]) 13:12, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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