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see also [[User talk:Karen Johnson/old]]
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Yeah! Wikipedia is a happier place now. I hope you had a good holiday. :) --mav
I hope that the children had fun arguing on my talkpage while I was on holidays... These comments have now been removed and the argument is closed. Please take it to the relevant [[Atlantium]] article/s if you wish to continue the debate. [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 07:49 Jan 2, 2003 (UTC)
 
When RK comes back I want to nominate him for sysop (again) I dont ask for much, but I ask that you support his nomination. Sincerely-[[User:Stevertigo|<strong>&#25140;&#30505sv</Strong>]] 23:19, Aug 16, 2003 (UTC)
 
Hi there, you have been listed as "inactive" on [[Wikipedia:Administrators]]. Please remove the notice when it is out of date. Cheers, [[User:Cyan|Cyan]] 01:36, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 
== Howdy! ==
 
Hey Karen - It was a a real joy to see you on my watchlist again! The encyclopedia and the server situation have improved but we are in transitional period for the community (much more self-governance and less dependence on Jimbo). So there is a bit more drama than there should be at the moment. It seems to be dying down as we continue to improve our new [[Wikipedia:dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] process. I hope to see more of your edits soon! :) --[[User:Maveric149|mav]] 10:00, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 
:As one of the children involved in the debate I would like to apologize. My initial response was to defend you from a nasty message left by George. --[[User:Maveric149|mav]]
::He was rather unprovokedly nasty, wasn't he... thank you for defending me when I wasn't here to defend myself! I'm glad I wasn't here actually, because I would have gotten rather upset about it at the time... but since I wasn't here I didn't read it until it was all over. :) [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]]
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Karen you asked if we needed a [[Landsat 7]] article. Here's my take - when chasing most wanted pages (sort of my hobby) I try to look at the links and decide if a redirect or simply editing the source pages make more sense. in this case, the alternate page is [[Landsat program]]. the problem is, as people post more and more landsat images, it seems to me that we'll end up with a Lot of links to Landsat 7.
Thanks for your typo correction :-) -- [[User:Youssefsan|Youssefsan]]
 
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== Wikibooks ==
Hello, & welcome back! I look forward to seeing the pics. :-) best, [[User:Koyaanis Qatsi|KQ]]
 
:Thanks KQ! I've been back for awhile but this was the first day I've actually been inspired to add useful new content intead of just dithering around correcting typos :) I was actually surprised that these basic 'skeletal' entries haven't been done long ago[[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]]
[[Wikibooks]] is for textbooks and other non-fiction books that have an orientation toward teaching people how to do things (like how to cook). The name is derived from [[WikiWiki]] and [[textbook]]. Hope this helps. :) --[[User:Maveric149|mav]] 08:56, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
::Yes, wikipedia has some odd omissions still. Just a few days ago I was surprised to see on [[Outkast]] that [[Erykah Badu]] still has no article. (and, having just done a fair amount of research, didn't care to write it myself). --[[User:Koyaanis Qatsi|KQ]]
 
Karen. Cooking recipee have an encyclopedic value. If not for you, there is encyclopedic value for some cultures. The fact there is another wikiproject where you would like recipees to be visible, is not a valid argument to entirely strip this encyclopedia from all its recipee. I might understand that we do not become a whole repository of all the recipee in the world, but at least could not we preserve part of the information ?
 
Each time you move information there, we lose information
 
#we lose access to the information, since there is not even a link preserved to wikibook. That means, here, the information is just plain lost. Note that since the page is deleted, that means it is very likely a new author will come one day to create a new article on the topic, hence duplicating the work load. Note as well, that deleting the article is likely to be offending the author of the article, who will not find *any* reference to it
#you also break all the international references, since other wikipedias consider recipees valid information. We do not have link to refer to
#we lose links to typical recipees that are examples of a cooking style or cooking techniques. This is another loss
#we lose very interesting google hits which would attract women, and mothers.
#we deceive travellers, who very likely would like to read about famous dishes.
 
All to say, I would like to discuss with you the fact recipees are deleted from this place. I am absolutely unfavorable to such a scheme. I would be please to hear counter arguments.
 
Proposition :
#keep here famous recipees, or those relevant to a technic, or style of cooking
#let's not delete pages, but rather do a redirect over there, or better put a link in the page, to preserve information and international links
 
[[User:Anthere|Anthère0]] 12:17, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 
Karen, keep on doing what you're doing. Some, maybe all dishes, have encyclopedic value, but their recipes do not. The wikipedia article on Apple pie should tell what an apple pie is, where it was developed, why it's culturally significant, and then link to the recipe at wikibooks. Keep on transwikiing stuff to wikibooks, and thank you. [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] 15:57, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 
:And above all Gentgeen, DO NOT PAY attention to the fact their is no clear consensus to move all of them and to delete the initial articles. Be careful to remember it is more important to do what you feel is best, rather than to guess other people may have different opinions. Very important, eh :-) [[User:Anthere|Anthère0]]
 
==Recipe moving==
As you can see, moving recipes to wikibooks tends to get touchie. People can get ''very'' emotionally attached to particular recipes. It is important that they know that the recipe is not being deleted, just that the content has been moved to another wikimedia project. Additionally, it is very important that when a recipe section is moved from an article that remains, such as [[crème brûlée]] or [[pumpkin pie]], that a link to the recipe at wikibooks be included in the article. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to make them here (I'm watching this page for now) or at my talk page, or possibly at [[m:Talk:Transwiki]], though I don't go to meta as often as I'm here or at wikibooks.
 
Thanks,
[[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] 02:00, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 
My response to all this.
 
Moving recipes, or ANY article is a two-step process. Nothing whatsoever has been deleted. But it was decided NOT BY ME that recipes should be placed in a recipe book at the Wikibooks site. Since I was working on the recipe book here, now I am working on the recipe book there. And to get the recipe book there requires a long and tedious moving process. So I started moving a few things. The move process is not complete. Once it is, then there will be links... for now, I can assure you that I have deleted nothing whatever, and the only recipes I listed for deletion here were recipes with no 'extra' commentary' on them whatsoever, and also no links to anything else in the wikipedia other than the 'recipes index' page. I'm not 'breaking' anything, and only following what I understand to be official policy - the note on the recipes index page SAYS they're supposed to be moved across.
 
If you don't want me to do it then FINE. It took me an hour just to transfer four recipes last night and now you're jumping down my throat about it. I don't have time for this crap. The recipes are not 'disappearing' from anywhere - you can go and read them at the cookbook any time you like, once I've given them a page (which I was about to do). [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 04:05, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 
:Sorry Karen, I didn't mean to sound like I was jumping down your throat. I'd just like to suggest that you link to the page in the transwiki namespace when you move the recipes out of articles. The link will follow the redirect left at wikibooks to the page's eventual perminant ___location, and the users of those pages will know where the information has gone. I'm sure I'm like you when I say I'd rather just get the pages where they need to go rather than fight with those who's first exposure to the move of recipes is the sudden "deletion" of their grandmother's favorite pie recipe. I also appriciate that these moves take a long time (which is why I haven't done any in a couple of weeks), so I appriciate all the help you can provide. I think I'll get some moved over tonight. Thanks, [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]]
::It wasn't you doing the jumping Gentgeen! You have no need to apologise. I really did think that I was doing the right thing because it says right there on the page that the recipes are supposed to be moved... and then Anthere tells me off. Argh. For the time being I think I'm going to stick to fruits and vegetables, where nobody has told me that I'm 'not allowed' to use info (I'm copying some from here and using it as a base for a more culinary article...) [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 04:48, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. I did one or two for the spices earlier. [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]]
 
 
I apology for making you feel like I was jumping on you. You are doing an important job in moving the recipee, and should not just stop just because I ask you to do so. But the fact is, I believe some recipees are culturally and technically important. Some people will look for them because they are some classics, because tourists just come back from a trip in a specific country will really want to do themselves this very special and famous treat. Or recipee can be used as a support to explain some cooking technics (such as pâte feuilletée).
 
The fact you move recipees is fundamentally ok with me. What is not ok is that in some cases, no links have been provided whatsoever to the cooking book. So in effect the information is just lost. Worse, when some articles like [[ratatouille]] are just proposed for deletion, the whole information of what that dish is, and its relevance to a certain cooking culture disappears as well. Not only is there no more link to a recipee, but the very notion that dish exists just disappear from Wikipedia. People will type the word in the search box, and see that there is nothing (if the article is deleted). This is very bad.
 
For any important dish, an article must be kept (a stub if you wish) AND a link to the recipee preserved.
 
Now, I have the feeling this has been done for many dishes, though not for several french dishes. I do not say it was done on purpose against french food; however, I would not be surprised that if those moving the recipee are able to recognise which british or american dish is famous and relevant to the description of a certain way of life, this may not be the case for french cooking. If so, I would hope that you will accept my own expertise on the matter, when I tell you that not preserving recipee links for [[Coq au Vin]] or [[crêpe]], or plain deleting [[ratatouille]] is bad; and that these articles are important to our folklore. I hope my position is clearer. Thanks Karen.
 
==Gniezno==
Why did you move the [[Gniezno]] article to [[Gniezno, Poland]]? Are there any other cities named [[Gniezno]] or is it just you idea on place names? Anyway, could you possibly move it back to where it belongs? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 10:59, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
==WikiProject Melbourne==
 
Hi, Karen. Seeing as you've listed yourself at [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Australia]] as being from [[Melbourne]], why don't you drop by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Melbourne|WikiProject Melbourne]]''' and help add something to the Wikipedia about our city?
 
Be sure to visit the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Melbourne|Project talk page]], and if you are interested, you can become a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Melbourne#Participants|member]].
 
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[[User:Hypernovean|TPK]] 13:54, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC) (My talk page is at [[User talk:Hypernovean]]).
 
:Thanks for joining up! Drop by the talk page sometime. You may also be interested in the [[Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board|Australian wikipedians' notice board]]. '''[[User talk:TPK|T.]]'''[[User:TPK|P.K.]] <small>13:07, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)</small>
 
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Hi, I'd like to know the license of your pictures. We use [[:Image:Echidna.jpg]] on french wikipedia so can you confirm it is GFDL ? Thanks in advance. [[User:Tipiac|Tipiac]] 22:05, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 
: And also [[:Image:Palehydrangea.jpg]] [[User:Tipiac|Tipiac]] 20:56, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
:: And then [[:Image:Figtree.jpg]]. Please drop me a line when done, thanks in advance. [[User:Tipiac|Tipiac]] 12:52, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
::Also, [[:Image:Peahenandchicks.jpg]]. [[User:RedWolf|RedWolf]] 19:28, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
 
== My photos and copyright status ==
 
You've changed this place so much that I don't know how or where to put this any more! (but it looks great...) I just popped in from a link on the Distributed Proofreaders (my latest public works project), and I notice that a bunch of my photos are listed as 'questionable copyright status'. I don't know what boilerplate is needed but I took the photos myself (or my brother did) and of course they were freely donated to the wikipedia! [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 07:39, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:Karen, if you licensed them under the GFDL, just put a <nowiki>{{GFDL}}</nowiki> tag on them. [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] 07:54, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::I found the image tag list page... it looks like the most appropriate (well, the most appealing to me as the photographer) tag is <nowiki>{{cc-by-nc}}</nowiki> so that's what I'm putting on them. It says that they can be freely used for non-commercial purposes as long as I get credit as the original photographer. Is that okay? [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 08:03, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:::Then they will be deleted. Read for more information: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-May/023760.html
:They're your images, you can release them under any license you like. By the way, welcome back!! [[User:Gentgeen|Gentgeen]] 08:06, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
::Thanks Gentgeen! It's probably just a flying visit but I'll hang around long enough to try and find all my images and fix them. I'd hate to think of them being deleted after I went to the work of putting them there! [[User:Karen Johnson|KJ]] 08:10, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for those photos! I've added them into the article. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 01:39, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
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I have now started this article off as it clearly needed it! [[User:Brookie|Brookie: A collector of little round things]] 16:47, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
 
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: Also [[:Image:Therocks-sydney1.jpg]], [[:Image:Therocks-sydney2.jpg]]. [[User:Dbenbenn|dbenbenn]] | [[User talk:Dbenbenn|talk]] 01:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
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==Calabrese (band)==
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A '''[[Template:prod|proposed deletion]]''' template has been added to the article [[Calabrese (band)]], because another editor is suggesting that it be deleted according to the [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed deletion]] process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion|criteria for inclusion]], and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]]" and [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|Wikipedia's deletion policy]]). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the <code><nowiki>{{dated prod}}</nowiki></code> notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on [[Talk:Calabrese (band)|its talk page]]. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the [[WP:PROD|proposed deletion process]], the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|speedy deletion criteria]] or it can be sent to [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|Articles for Deletion]], where it may be deleted if [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{tl|db-author}} to the top of the page. <!-- Template:PRODWarning --> -- [[User:Swerdnaneb|Swerdnaneb]] 06:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 
==AfD nomination of [[Calabrese (band)]]==
[[Calabrese (band)]], an article you created, has been nominated for [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|deletion]]. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that [[Calabrese (band)]] satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]]" and the [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|Wikipedia deletion policy]]). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calabrese (band){{{order|}}}]] and please be sure to [[WP:SIG|sign your comments]] with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). You are free to edit the content of [[Calabrese (band)]] during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.<!-- Template:AFDWarning --> -- [[User:Swerdnaneb|Swerdnaneb]] 19:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Moles ==
 
As an established editor of the article Mole (animal), your input is solicited on the Talk page to help resolve an ongoing dispute as to the nature and scope of the article. [[User:Chrisrus|Chrisrus]] ([[User talk:Chrisrus|talk]]) 16:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 
==Unreferenced BLPs==
[[File:Information.svg|30px]] Hello Karen Johnson! Thank you for your contributions. I am a [[WP:BOT|bot]] alerting you that '''1''' of the articles that you created is tagged as an[[Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources| Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person]]. The [[WP:BLP|biographies of living persons]] policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure [[WP:VERRIFY|verifiability]], all biographies should be based on [[WP:RELIABLE|reliable sources]]. if you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current ''[[:Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs|{{PAGESINCATEGORY:All_unreferenced_BLPs}}]]'' article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{tl|unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:
 
# [[Bill Whelan]] - <small>{{findsources|Bill Whelan}}</small>
Thanks!--[[User:DASHBot|DASHBot]] ([[User talk:DASHBot|talk]]) 23:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 
==Suspension of admin privileges due to inactivity==
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Following a [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/suspend sysop rights of inactive admins|community discussion]] in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative privileges of users who have been inactive for one year, meaning administrators who have made neither any edits nor any logged actions in over one year. As a result of this discussion, your administrative privileges have been removed pending your return. If you wish to have these privileges reinstated, please post to the [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard]] and the userright will be restored per the [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats#Resysopping|re-sysopping process]] (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. <!-- Template:Inactive admin -->[[User:RL0919|RL0919]] ([[User talk:RL0919|talk]]) 21:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 
==Melbourne meetup==
Hey all, just a reminder that there's a meetup tomorrow at 11am in North Melbourne. There are more details at the [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 19|meetup page]]. Hope to see you tomorrow! [[User:SteveBot|SteveBot]] ([[User talk:SteveBot|talk]]) 04:39, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 
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==Meetup invitation: Melbourne 26==
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Hi there! You are cordially invited to a meetup next Sunday (6 January). Details and an attendee list are at [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 26]]. Hope to see you there! [[user:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] 05:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 
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== [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] of [[York Chocolate]] ==
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The article [[York Chocolate]] has been [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|proposed for deletion]]&#32; because of the following concern:
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While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be [[WP:DEL#REASON|deleted for any of several reasons]].
 
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your [[Help:edit summary|edit summary]] or on [[Talk:York Chocolate|the article's talk page]].
 
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== Arts and crafts listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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==Do you want to collaborate in the edition of Jessie J's page?==
Hi, I'm JD3rulo. The thing is that I'm a huge fan of Jessie J, I have made changes in her page, but other users have removed them, replying that the links I referred to don't belong to reliable sources. So I'm wondering if you could dedicate part of your time in helping me to fill some topics that are abandoned, such as Jessie J's vocal type, range and also writing updated news about her career lately. I hope you can help me, cause it seems Jessie's page has been forgotten. If you need some help to write about any article or making research, you can count on me, so this is the only thing I can give you: my friendship to make wikipedia a better and updated site. Chao, have a nice day![[User:JD3rulo|JD3rulo]] ([[User talk:JD3rulo|talk]]) 09:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
==[[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion|Speedy deletion]] nomination of [[:Collard greens]]==
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A tag has been placed on [[:Collard greens]] requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under [[WP:CSD#G12|section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion]], because the article or image appears to be a clear [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|copyright]] infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from mtv.com/artists/collard-greens/biography. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of ''information'', but not as a source of ''sentences''. This part is crucial: ''say it in your own words''. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators '''will be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''.
 
If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you ''must'' verify that externally by one of the processes explained at [[Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials]]. If you are not the owner of the external website or image but have permission from that owner, see [[Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission]]. You might want to look at [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] for more details, or ask a question [[Wikipedia:Help desk|here]].
 
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Collard greens|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. <!-- Template:Db-copyvio-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> [[User:Jaaron95|Jaaron95]] ([[User talk:Jaaron95|talk]]) 09:32, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 
== Invitation ==
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| <div class="boilerplate metadata vfd" style="background:#bff9fc; margin:0 auto; padding:15px; border:1px solid #AAAAAA;">I'd like to invite everyone to join the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music|WikiProject R&B and Soul Music]]. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards [[User:Dfrr|Dfrr]] ([[User talk:Dfrr|talk]]) 05:10, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</div>
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== [[WP:ACE2015|ArbCom elections are now open!]] ==
 
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== Jupiter(planet) listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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== Nomination of [[:Pern]] for deletion ==
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article '''[[:Pern]]''' is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]] or whether it should be [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deleted]].
 
The article will be discussed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pern]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
 
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.<!-- Template:afd notice --> <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 11:57, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
== "Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect [[Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia]]. Since you had some involvement with the ''Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia'' redirect, you might want to participate in [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 14#Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia|the redirect discussion]] if you wish to do so. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> Regards, [[User:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:Impact; color:#0F45D2">SONIC</span>]]''[[User talk:Sonic678|<span style="font-family:GulimChe; color:#D4AF37">678</span>]]'' 17:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 
== A kitten for you! ==
 
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Thanks for making an article on kittens (or kittehs if you are a meme maker)
 
[[User:JaduaGreatest12|JaduaGreatest12]] ([[User talk:JaduaGreatest12|talk]]) 19:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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== "Moggy" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect [[:Moggy]] and has thus listed it [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|for discussion]]. This discussion will occur at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 28#Moggy]] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 19:00, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
== "[[:Spine(anatomy)]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] ==
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spine(anatomy)&redirect=no Spine(anatomy)]</span> has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|redirects for discussion]] to determine whether its use and function meets the [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect guidelines]]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 29#Spine(anatomy)}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> [[User:Steel1943|<span style="color: #3F00FF;">'''''Steel1943'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Steel1943|talk]]) 22:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Good article reassessment for [[Narcissus (plant)]] ==
[[Narcissus (plant)]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Narcissus (plant)/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 19:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)