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==Befunge?==
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CiaranG I agree with you but I belive we should have an article which contains a list of software related to Visual Programming regardless of their noticeability. If you agree I'd be welcome in creating and maintaining such a list because visual programming is one of my main interests and I'm planning to support this "movement". [[User:Metalpasman|Metalpasman]] 16:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 
:Wikipedia is not the place to maintain a list of non-notable software - please see [[WP:NOTE]] and [[WP:VERIFY]]. You could create such a list, but anything non-notable would end up being removed, which would defeat the object. Fortunately, there are many places where you could work on maintaining such a list - see here for example: {{tlp|dmoz|Computers/Programming/Languages/Visual/|Visual Programming Languages}} Cheers, [[User:CiaranG|CiaranG]] 17:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 
:: My understanding of the [[WP:NOTEWORTHY]] guideline and the [[WP:LSC]] guideline is that when an article contains a list of items, each item on the list should be verifiable, but "Elements of a list don't have to be notable". --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] ([[User talk:DavidCary|talk]]) 03:44, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 
== SynthMaker ==
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:I see mentioned above "graphical" programming; it's a start however it's not accurate, graphical means "of graphics", not of diagrams. '''Diagrammatic''' may be more accurate. --[[Special:Contributions/94.71.89.215|94.71.89.215]] ([[User talk:94.71.89.215|talk]]) 16:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Apparently, '''Diagrammatic Programming''' is mentioned in several web searches. --[[Special:Contributions/94.71.89.215|94.71.89.215]] ([[User talk:94.71.89.215|talk]]) 16:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::"graphical" does not imply visual, ask any mathematician. [[Special:Contributions/116.90.140.41|116.90.140.41]] ([[User talk:116.90.140.41|talk]]) 03:04, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 
==Scratch==
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Also, one would expect a more detailed conceptual description of visual languages including some of the history which reaches far back, e.g., 1988. Visual Programming. N. C. Shu (Ed.). Van Nostrand Reinhold Co., New York, NY, USA.
 
 
[[User:KaptainFire|KaptainFire]] ([[User talk:KaptainFire|talk]]) 14:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 
== Visual programming languages ==
Along the lines of Kaptain fire and some others I suggest to change this page from general to specific introduction of different forms iconic... and split the languages up in more categories based on what you can program with them and in which field the language is used.
 
Scratch would be a event driven imperative visual language that is iconic and used in education.
 
Though there are many other languages we should put a picture up to give a better overview.
 
Please let me know if you agree [[User:Javaflug|Javaflug]] ([[User talk:Javaflug|talk]]) 17:10, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 
== Blueprints? (Former Kismet) ==
 
Someone should include Blueprints from Unreal Engine IV! <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.125.109.28|82.125.109.28]] ([[User talk:82.125.109.28|talk]]) 10:15, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Any Others? ==
 
I use one in my [[computer science]] class. It's called "[http://beetleblocks.com Beetle Blocks]". (It's made by the people who made [[Snap!_(programming_language)|Snap!]], and it does stuff in [[3D_computer_graphics|3-D]]) [[User:SilverMagpie|SilverMagpie]] ([[User talk:SilverMagpie|talk]]) 02:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 
== Is a visual programming language a [[modeling language]]? ==
I think so, though a "VPL" may not be A laguage but a system running on computer. --[[User:Anetman|Just a net man]] ([[User talk:Anetman|talk]]) 03:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== History ==
 
It would be great if we had a 'History' section here. Obviously there are a plethora of these languages now, but it would be interesting to highlight the the earliest examples. It's clear if you are familiar with a few of these that there must be some common precedents inspiring them. [[User:Walkersam|Walkersam]] ([[User talk:Walkersam|talk]]) 17:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 
== Should we add Fancade? ==
 
[https://fancade.com Fancade] is an app created by an indie developer (Martin Magni), which is a visual programming language for creating 3D (and 2D) games. It also a section where you can play games created by others. It's a mobile app, but you can also use it in the online version (with some great improvements for use with a keyboard and mouse). I'm not sure if it's big enough to put it here, cause it doesn't have a wikipedia page. [[User:Ego-lay atman-bay|Ego-lay atman-bay]] ([[User talk:Ego-lay atman-bay|talk]]) 20:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Gladiabots ==
 
[https://store.steampowered.com/app/871930/GLADIABOTS__AI_Combat_Arena/ Gladiabots] is a game where one does programming (mostly one defines pretty refined [[Decision tree|decision trees]] that tend actually to a graph as there are methods too). Could it be included? [[User:Pier4r|Pier4r]] ([[User talk:Pier4r|talk]]) 19:38, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 
== Zaluum ==
 
Looks (from few screenshots i saw) simmilar to LabVIEW. Isn't maintained anymore. It was in alpha stage. Last working snapshot of website is avaiable on web archive in 09 jun 2023 (http://web.archive.org/web/20230609152955/http://zaluum.com/). Github repositories are still there (https://github.com/zaluum).
 
I think that it is worth mentioning. I would add it to this wiki page but idk how to classify it (on website first sentace says "Open source visual language for real-time data processing.").
 
I found it by looking at this LabVIEW forum thread: https://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW/Can-I-create-own-graphical-programming-IDE-inspired-by-LabVIEW/td-p/3975267
[[User:XDanieI|XDanieI]] ([[User talk:XDanieI|talk]]) 21:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 
:There's not a lot we can do with github repos and forum posts. Wikipedia is based on [[WP:RS|reliably published]] sources. And the lists here specifically are of languages with preexisting Wikipedia articles. You'd need several higher quality sources to create an article (see [[WP:N]]). [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 22:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
::I mean, there is "MakeCode Arcade, by Microsoft" which does not have wiki article. Sorry for being ignorant (I didn't read whole "reliably published sources" that ypu linked" but doesn't the web archive link and github link proove that this programming language exists (and can be downloaded and run; but is not maintained) which is the whole point? [[User:XDanieI|XDanieI]] ([[User talk:XDanieI|talk]]) 10:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::No, proof of existence is not sufficient. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 11:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)