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==Untitled==
I have read that the war started in 1690, should the start date of the war be changed? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fishingmusic|Fishingmusic]] ([[User talk:Fishingmusic#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fishingmusic|contribs]]) 02:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)</small>
 
== Note on the name ==
A blub at the beginning should make clear that the name ''King William's War'' is only used in American (US) [[historiography]]. It has different names in English Canada, French Canada, the UK, and France. [[User:Kevlar67|Kevlar67]] 20:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 
:Feel free to add those names to the intro. I don't know what they are. [[User:Funnyhat|Funnyhat]] 05:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 
::Yes. It must be made clear that KWW is the North American name for the Nine Years War. NOT just the name given to the north American theatre. [[User:Rebel Redcoat|Rebel Redcoat]] ([[User talk:Rebel Redcoat|talk]]) 13:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:Take the beginning of Queen Anne's War for example: "Queen Anne's War (1702–1713), as it was known in the English colonies, was the..." <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DondeEsAntonio|DondeEsAntonio]] ([[User talk:DondeEsAntonio#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DondeEsAntonio|contribs]]) 21:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)</small>
 
== Great job ==
I just want to commend everyone who helped write this article. A lot of Wikipedia articles tend to "go in one ear and out the other", but this one was very easy to read and made sense, and was very helpful in providing the information I needed. Thankyou. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DondeEsAntonio|DondeEsAntonio]] ([[User talk:DondeEsAntonio|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DondeEsAntonio|contribs]]) 21:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Andros a Catholic? ==
Is there a reference for the assertion that Andros was a Catholic? If so, it should be added, and the entry on Anros be revised because it notes he was an Anglican. (I suspect the latter is actually correct.) [[User:AnthroMimus|AnthroMimus]] ([[User talk:AnthroMimus|talk]]) 02:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 
:From at least [http://books.google.com/books?id=0ssDAAAAYAAJ&dq=edmund%20andros&pg=PA416#v=onepage&q=edmund%20andros&f=false one source], Andros was accused of being [[papist]] by New Englanders. However, Puritans used this term as much to refer to conforming Anglicans as Catholics, at least when they were propagandizing. ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 02:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 
::I see the reference, thanks, Magicpiano. (And sorry for the dely in response.) The question I have is if he in fact was Catholic why did the very Protestant establishment after the Bill of Rights of 1689 allow him to be returned as a crown agent in Virginia? Wouldn't it be safer to say "Andros, thought by many New Englanders to be a papist and in any event appointed by the Catholic King James ..."? [[User:AnthroMimus|AnthroMimus]] ([[User talk:AnthroMimus|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:::The reality is that Andros' religion isn't really important in this article, so I've removed mention of it entirely. (It's certainly more relevant in other articles involving him.) ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 13:33, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 
==Merge?==
This article includes links to [[Canada (New France)]] and [[New France]]. With the titles being almost identical and a lot of the content duplicated, the case for merging them seems quite strong. I know very little on this subject and lack the expertise to do it.<br>
What do other editors think? [[User:RASAM|RASAM]] ([[User talk:RASAM|talk]]) 21:52, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 
== Inadequate Map of King William War ==
The map of King William's War does not adequately reflect the New England incursions into Acadia or the incursions on present-day Maine. Is there someone who could work on this?--[[User:Hantsheroes|Hantsheroes]] ([[User talk:Hantsheroes|talk]]) 08:59, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 
:Have you asked the map's author? ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 14:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 
== The lead should be a summary ==
From the [[WP:LEAD|lead guideline]] "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies."
 
However to meet this requirement so that those who use search engines can navigate to the correct page it is necessary to get a brief description over in the first paragraph. If one searches for this using Google Search the current page returns
{{quotation|King William's War (1688–97, also known as the Second Indian War, Father Baudoin's War, Castin's War, or the First Intercontinental War in French) was the North American theater of the Nine Years' War (1688–97, also known as the War of the Grand Alliance or the War of the League of Augsburg). ...}}
That does not help anyone understand what it is about, because all it is doing is listing alternative names. As it happens Google has recently been putting up its own definitions which it extracts from Wikipedia or from wikidata (I am not sure which). That description reads:
{{quotation|King William's War was the North American theater of the Nine Years' War. It was the first of six colonial wars fought between New France and New England along with their respective Native allies before...}}
If potential readers are using a search engine other than Google then they are not so forgiving for example see for example a [https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=King+William%27s+War+&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35 Yarhoo search], as ask yourself if the snippet returned for Wikipedia and www.u-s-history.com is more inviting to the potential reader:
{{quotation|King William's War (1688–97, also known as the Second Indian War Father Baudoin's War Castin's War or the First Intercontinental War in French) was the North ... }}
{{quotation|King William’s War was the first in a series of colonial conflicts between France and England for supremacy in North America. The major goal, other than prestige ... }}
 
I came here because I want to expand the section called "[[English Army#Operations|Operations]]" in the [[English Army]] article. I ought to be able to cut and past the fist paragraph or two be able to give a brief description of he war. At the moment this lead is not organised in a way that makes that possible. I suggest that those who edit this article regularly consider rewriting the lead with the common American and British titles in the lead (just two) -- footnote the rest of the alternative names (or move them lower down the lead) along with the their origins -- and use wording like that of the alternative Google lead and the lead used by www.u-s-history.com to summarise the conflict in a sentence or two. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 13:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 
==Name left unexplained==
You'd think the person who the war was named after would at least be referred to and said of what exactly he did, but he's not mentioned even once? [[User:Prinsgezinde|Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde)]] ([[User talk:Prinsgezinde|talk]]) 10:05, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 
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== Suggested Expansions ==
I agree with the Comment above that the Lead section needs rewriting - I'm happy to give it a go. Also, I think the accepted convention is to use the term Native Americans, not Indians. Anyone know?
 
[[User:Robinvp11|Robinvp11]] ([[User talk:Robinvp11|talk]]) 11:15, 10 March 2018 (UTC)