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== 0003:06:3112, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by Mvanmeer23IanResearch ==
{{Lafc|username=Mvanmeer23IanResearch|ts=0003:06:3112, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025|pagedraft=Draft:ZigZagZurich}}
Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].
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:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 05:28, 28 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang ==
Hi! I submitted my first article and it was rejected for too many references. I can fix that, but I have three quick questions that I can't seem to figure out.
{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang|ts=05:28, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Winmate Inc.}}
The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.
1. The person I am writing about has published several books. I linked them to their respective Amazon.com pages, but those were rejected as being too commercial. I'm guessing that linking them to Goodreads would be the same problem. One of them has a review; but apart from reviews on Amazon, the other books don't have independent reviews. Most are e-books and don't have ISBNs; although two are paperbacks and do have ISBNs. What is the best way to document these books? Also, she is mentioned in several books, but I have the same problem. I linked to Amazon and gave the page numbers she's quoted on.
:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 06:40, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 109.252.122.222 ==
2. I have a photo of her and the name of the photographer who is happy to confirm that she took the picture and that it can be part of the public ___domain. What exactly do you need from her to verify that she took the picture and is willing to turn over the rights to Wikipedia and the world?
{{Lafc|username=109.252.122.222|ts=06:40, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Maxim_Lazarev}}
Good day!
Thank you for your work!
Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.
This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.
Help improve this page.
Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.
With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
3. I asked a previous question here, and the response was really great. She said I could reply to her answer, but there is no reply button and I can't figure out how to reply. I want to thank her. If I want to reply to YOUR answer, how would I do that?
 
== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==
You can see that I'm a newbie; but I'm trying to learn and to do it right. So any suggestions you can send my way will be appreciated. :-)
{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}
Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks,
:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
Mary
:Comments on your assessment table:
:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.
:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...
:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?
:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>
 
== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==
[[User:Mvanmeer23|Mvanmeer23]] ([[User talk:Mvanmeer23|talk]]) 00:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:I have left a comment on the draft intended to help you.
:Books may be referred to with their ISBN. Placing the magic word ISBN next to an ISB Number creates the relevant links to all booksellers and sources.
:For the picture, that is your last concern. Read [[WP:Donating copyright material]]. It is only really relevant after and if the draft is accepted. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 09:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 0014:50:2857, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by 149.254.180.115Aras2025 ==
{{Lafc|username=149.254.180.115Aras2025|ts=0014:50:2857, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025|declineddraft=Draft:Ryan_HawleyRadio_Duhok}}
Hello,
 
My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.
 
I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:
I feel as though I am so close to getting this article spot on for approval :) at first I received the decline reasons as not showing notability but I think I've succeeded in doing that. What I would like to ask is, what can I do to ensure that this article meets the acceptance requirements?
1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.
2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."
 
Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.
Many thanks
 
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[SpecialUser:Contributions/149.254.180.115Aras2025|149.254.180.115Aras2025]] ([[User talk:149.254.180.115Aras2025|talk]]) 0014:5057, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025 (UTC)
 
:An in depth source will, on its own, go into detail about the topic and discuss what they see as important/significant/influential about it- what makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. Mere congratulations and a mention do not qualify. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:References. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is ''about them'', and is ''independent of them'', and ''is in [[WP:RS]]'', and is ''significant coverage''. Please also see [[WP:PRIMARY]] which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and [[WP:SELFPUB]] which has clear limitations on self published sources. Places where references are requested are marked in the draft. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 09:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
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may i know the reason why the article has been stoped
== Request on 04:25:19, 29 July 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI) ==
[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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{{Lafc|username=RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI)|ts=04:25:19, 29 July 2015|declinedtalk=User:RAJIV_KUMAR_BHARDWAJ_(PURI)}}
 
== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==
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{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}
May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
REG MY ARTICLE: ORIGIN & SIGNIFICANCE OF “PATITAPABAN” OF “LORD GOD JAGANNATH”.
::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).
:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 80.41.119.0 ==
FIRST: IT'S ALREADY COMPLICATING ENOUGH - COPY PASTE ETC- WELL DID IT ALL AT MY BEST GUESS, HOPE THIS MESSAGE REACHES PROPER PLACE.
{{Lafc|username=80.41.119.0|ts=18:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}
2ND : AS INFORMATION TO AN IMPORTANT PLACE (LORD GOD JAGANNATH TEMPLE, PURI, ODISHA (EARLIER: ORISSA), INDIA. IS WORLD FAMOUS. THIS MONTH ONLY THERE WAS AT "RATH YATRA" FESTIVAL, ABOUT 40 LAKHS PILGRIMS.
please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
3RD I WANTED TO HELP IN SHARING INFORMATION, FOR WHICH I GAVE A LOT OF TIME & RESEARCH - AS I HAD SEEN YOUR REQUEST TO POST ANY INFO ETC. ALSO IT WOULD HELP MANY PEOPLE.
4TH I PRESUMED & FEEL IT'S TRUE THAT ALL MY EFFORTS, TIME & RESEARCH IS FOR FREE & ONLY FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. A KIND OF SELFLESS SOCIAL SERVICE. SO IT IS CLEAR - MY CONTRIBUTION WAS NOT FOR ANY PERSONAL GAIN.
5TH : I GOT THIS MESSAGE:-
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:
This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.
6TH: I AM NOT ANY WRITER, IN FACT I EVEN TYPE ON COMPUTER WITH ONE FINGER. BUT I UNDERSTOOD IT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY SOME PROFESSIONALS - EDITED BY THEM - VERIFIED THROUGH OTHER RESOURCES - AND FINALLY BE DISPLAYED FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT. WELL WHAT I FEEL IS, WEATHER IT'S LIKE AN ESSAY OR STORY OR AN encyclopedia article. MAIN MOTIVE IS TO BRING TO THE PUBLIC AUTHENTIC INFORMATION.
7TH : I AM FOUNDER SECTARY "SARASVATI SISU MANDIR - MARUTI NAGAR, PURI, ODISHA, INDIA". GURUDWARA, ARYA SAMAJ, VHP, RSS & SUCH OTHER VOLUNTARY SOCIAL GROUPS NUMBERING NEARLY 18. I FIND HARDLY ANY TIME TO GO THROUGH MY E-MAILS. FINDING TIME TO VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT, VIEW REVIEW FACE CONDITIONS EDIT ETC IS QUITE OUT OF THE QUESTION. YES I DO GIVE TIME & EFFORT (WHEN I CAN) IF IT BENEFITS MANY.
8TH : I HAVE DONE THE BEST I COULD IN PROVIDING WHAT I COULD IN MY WORK (YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT CALLED ARTICLE) "ORIGIN & SIGNIFICANCE OF “PATITAPABAN” OF “LORD GOD JAGANNATH”. I AGREE THERE MAY BE MANY WAYS OF PRESENTING IT, BUT (AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER IN THIS MESSAGE) I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL OR EVEN SLIGHTLY A WRITER. I JUST GO WITH WHAT FLOWS THROUGH ME. I AM SURE YOU MAY HAVE MANY PROFESSIONALS REVIEWING ARTICLES & I SHALL BE GRATEFUL IF THEY CAN SET MY WORK IN THE REQUIRED FORMAT. YES YOU ARE ALSO WELCOME TO VERIFY THE FACTS (WHICH I AM SURE (AND AGREE) YOU WOULD DO SO BEFORE DISPLAYING MY WORK. OF COURSE THERE ARE SMALL IRRELEVANT VARIATIONS IN THE HISTORY DEPENDING ON VARYING OPINIONS - I BELIEVE YOU MAY SEE THROUGH THAT - & LIKE I DID - STICK TO THE MOST POPULAR NARRATIONS. IF SOME LINES DO COME UP - THAT HAVE A STRONG BASE TO BE DIFFERENT- YOU ARE MOST WELCOME TO CHANGE IT - I TOO WILL BE GLAD IF YOU SEND / MAIL ME THE SAME - TO REFRESH / IMPROVE MY KNOWLEDGE.
9TH : I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN HELPING ALL, I DO NOT MIND IF THIS IS DISPLAYED UNDER ANY GOOD WRITER OR EDITOR NAME. MY NAME OR CREDIT IS NOT IMPORTANT. IF YOU FEEL YOU CAN GO ON TO IMPROVE & DISPLAY MY WORK - YOU ARE WELCOME. I DO NOT THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE TIME. I AM HAPPY WITH WHAT I LEARNT IN MY RESEARCH, THE PRACTICE OF TYPING & THE KNOWLEDGE I GAINED.
 
:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
<!-- End of message -->[[User:RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI)|RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI)]] ([[User talk:RAJIV KUMAR BHARDWAJ (PURI)|talk]]) 04:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:Several points in reply:
:#Please use your one finger technique to type in sentence case. ALL CAPITALS is offensive and considered to be shouting. It is also unreadable
:#No-one here is likely to pick up your essay and format it. If you think it can be turned into an article it is up to you as contributing editor to do this.
:#No-one is concerned about any "Do you know who I am!" stuff. If you have hardly any time to do anything, editing Wikipedia is probably not a hobby you will enjoy
:#Wikipedia requires topics that are suitable for its remit. It is an encyclopaedia and records what others have reported on. It doe snot take original research, however well intentioned.
:I realise this is not the answer you wish to hear. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 09:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 0918:55:3026, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by Richard FalknerSindhuG2025 ==
{{Lafc|username=Richard FalknerSindhuG2025|ts=0918:55:3026, 2928 JulyAugust 20152025|pagedraft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}
Hello team,
EXPERTEER
I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.
My article for creation 'Experteer' was declined on July 22nd due to the fact that it sounded promotional and the flow of the article was not good enough. Now I have made the required changes by eliminating the perceived promotional words, please let me know if this article now seems fine or further edits are required.
:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.
:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] &#8226; [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 19:01, 28 August 2025 review of submission by RavenFireblade ==
[[User:Richard Falkner|Richard Falkner]] ([[User talk:Richard Falkner|talk]]) 09:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=RavenFireblade|ts=19:01, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jack_Logan}}
We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
== 10:02:45, 29 July 2015 review of submission by {{Elsie Birech}} ==
::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username={{elsiebirech}}|ts=10:02:45, 29 July 2015|pending=User:Elsie_birech/sandbox/James_Smart}}
:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
= August 29 =
I would like to resolve the issue of disambiquity. The title James Smart is already in use. The james smart i am writing about though is a kenyan journalist.
 
== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==
--[[User:Elsie birech|Elsie birech]] ([[User talk:Elsie birech|talk]]) 10:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}
[[User:Elsie birech|Elsie birech]] ([[User talk:Elsie birech|talk]]) 10:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.
:Call this [[James Smart (journalist)]]. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 12:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
== 11:34:13, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Tim B Haigh ==
{{Lafc|username=Tim B Haigh|ts=11:34:13, 29 July 2015|declined=Draft:Professor_Nicholas_J_Lowe}}
 
:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]</sup> 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==
I have submitted my first article for review and his been declined for :- "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations." However, I am unsure as to what the problem is and thought that I had done this. Would someone be able to point in the right direction and explain what I have done wrong? Many thanks. The article is at :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Professor_Nicholas_J_Lowe
 
hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Tim B Haigh|Tim B Haigh]] ([[User talk:Tim B Haigh|talk]]) 11:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:You do have inline citations. Though I would like to see a reference for the birthdate, and his family, as Wikipedia should only reproduce personal information that is already published. Also some of those awards are not very award-like, such as Who’s Who Among Executives & Professional, where you likely pay a fee to get an entry. Also "President of the British Cosmetic Dermatology Group of the British Association of Dermatology" is a role not an award. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 12:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.
== 12:46:49, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Duch0404 ==
:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
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:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I am new to editing in Wikipedia, and my article was declined, so I am requesting help. Sulfurboy (thank you for the review!) declined the article ''GrapeSEED'' because it read like an advertisement, and he suggested I ask for help here. I tried to write facts only. Can you please help me determine what is too subjective or what language is too much like an advertisement? If I had to take a guess at fixing it, I would remove the links to press releases and maybe the '''Training and Support''' section. The main body includes facts only, no adjectives, and it does not suggest that the program is good (just describes the history and what it is). Any help is appreciated by this newbie, thank you!!
 
== 11:32, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Newacctowork ==
[[User:Duch0404|Duch0404]] ([[User talk:Duch0404|talk]]) 12:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Newacctowork|ts=11:32, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Trinity_Private_School}}
I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.
In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.
Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.
I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].
:{{Ping|Duch0404}} Do not just guess. Do that thing! Then you will be able to see the wood from the trees. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 16:20, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.
:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.
:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.
:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1312:36:2200, 29 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by Works712GeorgeHav ==
{{Lafc|username=Works712GeorgeHav|ts=1312:36:2200, 29 JulyAugust 20152025|declineddraft=Draft:Nicole_WilliamsFlightSimExpo}}
Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi,
::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::I would talk much less about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about it. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 13:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Vaibhav9786 ==
I've been trying to create a page for Nicole Williams who is a career expert, best-selling author, and the CEO and founder of a career development company called WORKS (which has been named one of the top 10 websites for millennial women). It keeps being rejected because the "references do not adequately show the subject's notability", and I would really like some advice on how to fix this.
{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}
Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}
She has published 3 best-selling books, was the official career expert at LinkedIn for 3 years, founded her own company, and has been featured in hundreds of articles for many prominent news sources such as the new york post, the new york times, the washington post, the wall street journal, forbes, and the financial times, along with many other magazines/newspapers. She has also had multiple appearances on the TODAY show, Good Morning America, CNN, Good Day New York, and Fox News. She was even the co-creator of the television series Making It Big.
:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.
:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 17:25, 29 August 2025 review of submission by FurretSuperFan ==
I would really appreciate more specific guidance as to how to show her notability through the references (I have already read "guidelines on the notability of people" and understand that secondary sources are needed). However, there are not tons of "independent" pieces written about her; does that mean that she can't be considered notable or worthy of an entry? It really seems like being asked to appear on and being featured in such popular outlets shows that she is worth listening to and knowing about.
{{Lafc|username=FurretSuperFan|ts=17:25, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Greatest_Idol}}
Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources
 
https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/
Thank you so much for any help/suggestions you can give me!
[[User:Works712|Works712]] ([[User talk:Works712|talk]]) 13:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:I have left a comment on the draft. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 16:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.
== 14:50:31, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Steve Humble ==
:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
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::Would this link work for Oricon instead?
::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?
::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.
::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 18:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Jetsonesque ==
{{Lafc|username=Jetsonesque|ts=18:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sam_Bregman}}
Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?
Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.
 
Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.
I have added details required about my 'notability' as a creator of 'learning maths outside the classroom'. Evidence is given of maths walks and other activities.
I'm know world wide as 'Dr Maths' and have written a regular newspaper article - 200+ articles over 8 years
 
It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.
I have given references as requested.
 
[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Could you please help me with what extra I need to give.
 
:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Thank you
 
= August 30 =
[[User:Steve Humble|Steve Humble]] ([[User talk:Steve Humble|talk]]) 14:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==
:{{Ping|Steve Humble}} You have a love of external links within the text. You seem to be blind to advice to remove those, though you have certainly handled a slew of other stuff, at least to an extent. You need to be aware that links to "Get it here" locations are viewed as spam whether money changes hands or not. Reviews go better when the prior suggestions are incorporated fully. You have a [[WP:COI]], an enormous one. so your work will be handled more rigorously than another editor's until we have helped you rip it away. This is not a free ride.
Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:
:What most experienced Wikipedians wonder when someone pushes their autobiography here is why? What possible good will this do your career? I think you need to read [[WP:ACADEME]] to start to understand how this site differs from Academe and other areas where reputations are made on publicity of work. We record notable items reported elsewhere by independent reliable sources. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 15:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
* Rewritten in neutral prose.
== 16:17:57, 29 July 2015 review of submission by MyStromer ==
* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).
{{Lafc|username=MyStromer|ts=16:17:57, 29 July 2015|page=
* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).
MyStromer/Stromer (bicycle)
* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.
 
Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?
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Thanks very much.
 
[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm hoping you can help me. My article was rejected due to my references. I have additional references but some of them are in German. Is it ok if I use these as well?
:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==
Also, one of my pics was taken down. I'm not sure why it was?
{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}
My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks!
::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==
[[User:MyStromer|MyStromer]] ([[User talk:MyStromer|talk]]) 16:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}
You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hi [[User:MyStromer|MyStromer]] yes please use the German onesSorry, particularlywas ifthat theya arequestion? better quality than the ones you have already used.-- [[User:Dodger67DoubleGrazing|Roger (Dodger67)DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:Dodger67DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 1613:2125, 2930 JulyAugust 20152025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] <sup>[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]</sup> 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
== 1718:42:3701, 2930 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by RdickeychasinsVasyaPetrovna ==
{{Lafc|username=RdickeychasinsVasyaPetrovna|ts=1718:42:3701, 2930 JulyAugust 20152025|pagedraft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}
Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Blueprint Earth
:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.
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:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
Why was my draft was denied as being "not notable" enough? According to the notability guidelines on your FAQ page, we meet all criteria. The organization Blueprint Earth is very similar to the Critical Zone Observatories (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Zone_Observatory), who have a page. Furthermore, we have more sources and sources of a better quality than this page and many other pages already in existence. So why was a Blueprint Earth page denied? Thank you for your time!
::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
[[User:Rdickeychasins|Rdickeychasins]] ([[User talk:Rdickeychasins|talk]]) 17:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
:First off, the discussion will only revolve around your page. Other pages existence or quality does not matter when it comes to your page. See [[WP:INN]]. The problem with your page is that it is not well source. First, the press release should be removed. Secondly, we need to see sources that actually are reliable and substantially or primarily cover the subject. Seems that most of the sources that are credible only mention the subject in passing. Please review [[WP:42]][[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 18:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 18:27, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Tanja0615 ==
:{{Ping|Rdickeychasins}} No precedent is ever set by any article for any other. If it were we would have a brutally fast descent into [[idiocracy]]. There are substantive reasons on the draft itself. If you have questions after reading this please do return here and ask them. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 18:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Tanja0615|ts=18:27, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Mehmed_Begić}}
Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== 18:00:59, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Abhi2434 ==
{{Lafc|username=Abhi2434|ts=18:00:59, 29 July 2015|page=Insync
 
== 21:31, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Matthewbyver ==
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{{Lafc|username=Matthewbyver|ts=21:31, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Matthew_Byver}}
My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
I am trying to create a page, but after a number of editing, I still cannot pass the page. Can you help me in this regard please.
:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
The page is at Draft:Insync
[[User:Abhi2434|Abhi2434]] ([[User talk:Abhi2434|talk]]) 18:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 21:40, 30 August 2025 review of submission by 69.255.14.163 ==
:{{Ping|Abhi2434}} It seems that {{U|Sulfurboy}} has given you advice via IRC. Perhaps your first port of call is on their talk page to discuss the advice you were given and how it has been implemented? [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 18:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=69.255.14.163|ts=21:40, 30 August 2025|draft=User:Wiseman2025/sandbox}}
has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.
== 22:41:34, 29 July 2015 review of submission by Sulmarkmack ==
:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Sulmarkmack|ts=22:41:34, 29 July 2015|page=
Draft:Sullair
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Hello! The page draft that I submitted for the company Sullair has been reviewed back in February and was declined because apparently it reads like an advertisement, but does not give any reasons why. When writing this article, I took great care NOT to do this, only to document the company and its history as accurately as possible. I also reviewed and compared several other similar company articles with this draft and I cannot understand how this article reads like an advertisement. Can someone please illuminate me on this, as I do not even begin to know what I would do differently in order to have this article accepted. Please also note that I am not employed by Sullair.
I thank you in advance for your input.
Greg
[[User:Sulmarkmack|Sulmarkmack]] ([[User talk:Sulmarkmack|talk]]) 22:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
= August 31 =
:{{Ping|Sulmarkmack}} Please scroll up. I replied to your prior question and an unusually skilled editor deleted an entire tranche of material. I ave reinstated it. The old link on your talk page ought to work now [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 23:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 09:18, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Txcraig75 ==
{{Lafc|username=Txcraig75|ts=09:18, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:Dirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}
I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
= July 30 =
 
== 0119:25:1153, 3031 JulyAugust 20152025 review of submission by 103.20.134.137Thilio ==
{{Lafc|username=103.20.134.137Thilio|ts=0119:25:1153, 3031 JulyAugust 20152025|pagedraft=Abdullah Manzoor NiaziDraft:AY_Poyoo}}
This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
 
:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.
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:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]<sup>[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]</sup> 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 21:03, 31 August 2025 review of submission by ProfZacchaeus ==
[[Special:Contributions/103.20.134.137|103.20.134.137]] ([[User talk:103.20.134.137|talk]]) 01:25, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=ProfZacchaeus|ts=21:03, 31 August 2025|draft=GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}
Hello,
I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.
 
and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.
Why my Request has Declined even i add all news References for my article why its happened?
 
So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.
:{{Accepted}} the draft is, however, borderline at best. I have taken a gamble and accepted it. Please continue to improve it, for it does risk being nominated for deletion. It requires stronger referencing. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is ''about them'', and is ''independent of them'', and ''is in [[WP:RS]]'', and is ''significant coverage''. Please also see [[WP:PRIMARY]] which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and [[WP:SELFPUB]] which has clear limitations on self published sources. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 07:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
== Request on 06:02:47, 30 July 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Oconna78 ==
{{anchor|06:02:47, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Oconna78}}
{{Lafc|username=Oconna78|ts=06:02:47, 30 July 2015|declinedtalk=Draft:FRIMO}}
 
:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.
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:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
I have submitted my article 'FRIMO' to be reviewed many times but it keeps getting denied due to not having "reliable sources." I have included government documentation, independent newspaper articles, and information from a book (which cannot be found online). How are these not reliable, and what else should I add? [[User:Oconna78|Oconna78]] ([[User talk:Oconna78|talk]]) 06:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
= September 1 =
<!-- End of message -->[[User:Oconna78|Oconna78]] ([[User talk:Oconna78|talk]]) 06:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 05:22, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 濵島 ==
:Generally "Government Documentation" is regarded as a primary source. [[WP:PRIMARY]] allows for these in restricted circumstances, so that ''ought'' not to be it. Paywalls and outdated plugs simply make verification of references difficult. If those were the final hurdle (and I have not checked) then it seems to me that acceptance is the route, relying on the community to sort any problems out later. A useful route forward is either for one of us to take the decision to accept the draft, or for you to have a discussion with the most recent declining reviewers to discover with precision what they need to happen. Or, indeed, both!
{{Lafc|username=濵島|ts=05:22, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:YOHO_BREWING}}
:Since I have reviewed it in the past (or left a substantial review comment) I will not be reviewing it again. I am standing too close to it to be impartial. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 07:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] <sup><small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small></sup> 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 06:06:01, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Bjanson ==
{{Lafc|username=Bjanson|ts=06:06:01, 30 July 2015|page=
Per Mollerup
 
== 11:14, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Amir Gull1 ==
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{{Lafc|username=Amir Gull1|ts=11:14, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Amir_Gull_Timuri}}
I cannot see what exactly is wrong. Please specify.
Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".
I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.
Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.
Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]
:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==
[[User:Bjanson|Bjanson]] ([[User talk:Bjanson|talk]]) 06:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}
Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:First of all, good job adding more sources to the article. Based on the current references, I would say the subject is definitely notable. '''''However''''', the article still [[WP:NOTPROMO|reads like an advertisement]], and not a neutral encyclopedia article. Your edit after my last rejection did nothing to make the article's text less promotional. Furthermore, you still have not responded to repeated questions about whether you have a [[WP:PSCOI|conflict of interest]] regarding the subject. Deal with that first please. <span class="nowrap">—[[User:pythoncoder|<span style="color:#004080">python</span><span style="color:olive">coder</span>]] ([[User talk:pythoncoder|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contribs/pythoncoder|contribs]])</span> 21:58, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Bjanson}} Nor can I, but academics are not my forte. I am pinging {{U|DGG}} who is rather good at these matters in the hope of their time and help. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 07:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==
== 06:46:30, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Marcgdoutherd ==
{{Lafc|username=Marcgdoutherd|ts=06:46:30, 30 July 2015|page=
Marc G. Doutherd
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Please remove my name period. I don't want to see my name on this site ever. I have a show at the Salvador Dali museum and then the Tate in London and the Guggenheim and your talking about verification. Okay Many blessing to you and your family always.
[[User:Marcgdoutherd|Marcgdoutherd]] ([[User talk:Marcgdoutherd|talk]]) 06:46, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
:Please place <nowiki>{{Db-author}}</nowiki> on any pages you have created that you wish to be deleted.
:It's very strange. You wanted an autobiography here, presumably to advertise yourself, and then decide that you will not provide verification. Instead you play the "Do you know who I am!" card.
:What you need to understand is that you have no control over a future article on you, assuming you pass our inclusion criteria. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 07:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 08:58:11, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Anubis2013 ==
{{Lafc|username=Anubis2013|ts=08:58:11, 30 July 2015|page=
 
== 15:54, 1 September 2025 review of submission by 89.101.68.143 ==
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{{Lafc|username=89.101.68.143|ts=15:54, 1 September 2025|draft=User:Michael_miron123/sandbox}}
The article was declined because of missing citation and footnotes - but I thought, I've made footnotes - what exactly was wrong???
just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[UserSpecial:Anubis2013Contributions/89.101.68.143|Anubis201389.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:Anubis201389.101.68.143|talk]]) 0815:5854, 301 JulySeptember 20152025 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 10:39:10, 30 July 2015 review of submission by 93.157.79.30 ==
{{Lafc|username=93.157.79.30|ts=10:39:10, 30 July 2015|declined=Draft:Lubomir_Tomaszewski}}
 
== 16:31, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Mguenego.usparis ==
Hi, thanks for information. When I've send You this text for revision there was the part Scuplture and Painting, now I can't find it. You rejected it or is any other draft version? Regards
{{Lafc|username=Mguenego.usparis|ts=16:31, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Ström_Paris}}
[[Special:Contributions/93.157.79.30|93.157.79.30]] ([[User talk:93.157.79.30|talk]]) 10:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I'd like to know if my draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:Mguenego.usparis|Mguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:Mguenego.usparis|talk]]) 16:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:IYou deletedhave the "Sculpture" section, as it made no mention ofsubmitted the subject,draft and so appeared irrelevant to the article. You can restore it yourself;is or if you don't know how, ask here, and I'll restore it for youpending. IfThe youreviewer wantwill to retain this section,leave you shouldfeedback editif itthey to show how itdo relatesnot toaccept the subjectdraft. [[User:Maproom331dot|Maproom331dot]] ([[User talk:Maproom331dot|talk]]) 1916:3540, 301 JulySeptember 20152025 (UTC)
 
== Request on 1618:15:3322, 301 JulySeptember 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles2025 forreview creation|AfC]]of submission by KatsheronChangingwormhole ==
{{Lafc|username=Changingwormhole|ts=18:22, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:V-DOC}}
{{anchor|16:15:33, 30 July 2015 review of submission by Katsheron}}
Hello, I would like some help understanding why my draft was declined. The reviewer noted that the references do not demonstrate notability and that I need more reliable, independent secondary sources.
{{Lafc|username=Katsheron|ts=16:15:33, 30 July 2015|declinedtalk=Draft:Dr._Wilson_A._Head}}
 
In my draft, I cited three independent news articles (Kuwait Times, Madhyamam, and Manorama Online) that directly cover the project. I also cited the official company website for technical details (such as the robot’s specifications and ecosystem), since I couldn’t find those details in news reports.
Hi. I did a further edit July 28 or 29. Please tell me what more I need to do to get this article published on Wikipedia. I have taken out all statements that may be construed as "opinion" and left only the bare facts, which are verifiable by the references that I have provided.
 
Could the inclusion of the company website as a supporting source have been the problem? If so, am I allowed to use the website only for factual details (like names of components, patent numbers, etc.) while keeping the news articles as the independent coverage that demonstrates notability?
<!-- End of message -->[[User:Katsheron|Katsheron]] ([[User talk:Katsheron|talk]]) 16:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
Any guidance would be much appreciated.
:As it says, twice, at the top of the draft, you need to add in-line citations that establish that the subject is notable. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 19:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
Page link for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:V-DOC [[User:Changingwormhole|Changingwormhole]] ([[User talk:Changingwormhole|talk]]) 18:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
== 20:24:02, 30 July 2015 review of submission by 2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA ==
*I fixed your header so that your draft is linked to as intended; you need the full title including the "Draft:" portion. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:24, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
{{Lafc|username=2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA|ts=20:24:02, 30 July 2015|declined=Draft:Plugmystore.com_SAS}}
 
== 19:11, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Don Wanyama Off ==
Dear wikipedia help desk,
{{Lafc|username=Don Wanyama Off|ts=19:11, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:List_Of_Media_Tycoons_In_Africa}}
Request for re review on the draft List of Media Tycoons In Africa [[User:Don Wanyama Off|Don Wanyama Off]] ([[User talk:Don Wanyama Off|talk]]) 19:11, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:If you have addressed the concern of the first reviewer, you may click the Resubmit button. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:28, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
The article was declined for publication due to:
:Note that list articles must collect members of the list that merit articles themselves. You're just listing names, none of them have articles, never mind sources. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 19:29, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
"read more like an advertisement"
:* [[WP:QUACK]] - SPI filed [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 19:50, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
and
"[Must] refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources"
 
= September 2 =
 
== 01:00, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Asf132 ==
The data in this article was based what contains other company articles such as TuneIn or ChannelAdvisor for example.
{{Lafc|username=Asf132|ts=01:00, 2 September 2025|draft=Draft:Rao Mulpuri}}
The article is having 7 published sources on which 5 are articles from various sources such as online media, institutions and politics.
Hi! I am awaiting submission of this biographical article, and despite fixing the initial request from my evaluator, because the article title was "moved" I'm not sure he/she was able to look at the right one. Could someone please ensure everything is ok? I believe it is ready for publishing [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 01:00, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:I also would like to add that I do not believe that my previous evaluator speaks/understands English proficiently, as evidenced by the language used on their "talk" page and does not grasp the magnitude of the content covered by the professionally written secondary-sourced articles (Bloomberg, Business Insider, Fortune, etc.), which was in this case is covering a once multi-billion-dollar company's CEO.. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 03:31, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
May you please list what specifically needs to be amended / adjusted?
::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] could you please take a look? [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:18, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Asf132|Asf132]]: sorry, can you please clarify your question – are you just wanting to fast track your draft's review? -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::The issue in question when I spoke to the reviewer "Như Gây Mê" was a lack of notability, but it seems even by the most pessimistic metric of evaluation the subject would qualify under Wikipedia's standards. The reviewer replied to me in broken English without sufficiently providing an explanation for their evaluation: "Hi, I think this is not the right time for me to publish your article, the information is still too little to show the notability of the subject." So I'm asking for another staff member to evaluate the notability requirements of the individual/the article and if they do indeed suffice then I believe that yes, the article should be published based on that being the "issue" of the article. If that "asks" for a faster review, then I guess that's the answer? But it was more of a prior concern with how this requirement was being evaluated.
::::Thank you! [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:26, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::You have resubmitted the draft, and will therefore get a 'second opinion' in due course once a reviewer gets around to assessing it. We don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk.
:::::I have no comment to make regarding another reviewer's command of English; nor should you, in my opinion. Any reviewer working on the English Wikipedia will almost certainly have sufficient skills to be able to review a draft and its associated English-language sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::Ok, got it. I also just received your message about managing a conflict of interest, and I would like to let you know that there is no personal or professional connection to my subject. I have studied the subject independently through my own research in the last half-decade as his company was rising and falling. This should be clearly evidenced by my neutrality throughout my draft, which highlights both his professional accomplishments as well as evidence that he played a significant role in the eventual bankruptcy of his company. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 05:48, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Unusually (for me), I reviewed the draft you refer to, and also had to decline it for lack of evidence of notability. Most of the sources are either primary, or cover the View company with only passing mentions of Mulpuri. I believe the only one that provides significant coverage directly about him is [https://www.businessinsider.com/view-rao-mulpuri-softbank-bankruptcy-cantor-rxr-2024-8 this] ''BI'' piece (also cited for the second time via AOL, for some reason). -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:56, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::PS: I did not decline this because of the unreferenced DOB, I declined it because of insufficient evidence of notability. Resubmitting without any attempt at addressing that issue is disruptive. Don't do that again, please, or your draft may be rejected outright. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:58, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you, I appreciate your time and feedback. I have found sources that are secondary that cover the subject in depth and added/replaced them now (if applicable to the content). [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:14, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::You have replaced one source, and resubmitted. Even if that new source were solid, which it isn't, that would still not be sufficient to satisfy [[WP:GNG]].
:::::::::You do you, I suppose, but just be aware that you do not have unlimited attempts at this. If I were you, I would try to make the most of your chances. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:20, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Actually, there were an additional two sources added (one of which was to provide a source for the year, which I will concede is not secondary)) and the other was the Forbes article that was added in with new content (which would count as secondary). Only the second mention of the Business Insider article source was swapped for an equivalent one that aimed to resolve your issue earlier about how it was cited twice (which is what you were referring to, unless you did not see my latest edits). So that was not the one in question that I was referring to. But I understand your general point and will add more that would fit the requirement. [[User:Asf132|Asf132]] ([[User talk:Asf132|talk]]) 06:28, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::Indeed, you did add more than one new source... after my comment here. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 06:42, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
== 02:01, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Elesha1188 ==
Kind regards,
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Hi, the content that I posted have been declined twice by two peers. And I would like to seek assistance specifically on which part I have to make correction so that I content can edit again and make it live. Thank you ! [[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]] ([[User talk:Elesha1188|talk]]) 02:01, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Elesha1188|Elesha1188]]: now declined for the third time. As I said in my comments two declines ago, primary sources do not establish notability per [[WP:ORG]], and that's all your draft cites. We need to see significant coverage of this organisation in multiple ''secondary'' sources. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:17, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA|2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA]] ([[User talk:2A02:A312:C200:BF80:1D1:A8EA:DF73:E5EA|talk]]) 20:24, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 04:04, 2 September 2025 review of submission by Goldface2009 ==
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please review my article and let us know which source is still missing or violate the policy [[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]] ([[User talk:Goldface2009|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Goldface2009|Goldface2009]]: we don't provide pre-reviews here at the help desk, you'll get a proper review once you submit your draft. I've added a template to it which has a blue 'submit' button for that. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:13, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
= July 31 =
 
== 0104:17:1433, 312 JulySeptember 20152025 review of submission by The trail musicSamyfit556b ==
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tell me how do i create the sandbox i wnat to create please sir help [[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]] ([[User talk:Samyfit556b|talk]]) 04:33, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Samyfit556b|Samyfit556b]]: it's right there, in the above link. That's where your rejected draft on BBKaPitara is. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 05:11, 2 September 2025 (UTC)
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[[User:The trail music|The trail music]] ([[User talk:The trail music|talk]]) 01:17, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Basically my application were declined on my user name, also not being reliable with sources, all my reliable sources are within the project i have created with evidential pictures and also radio slots that support the forum.
 
== 03:24:02, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Olga Rekovskaya ==
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Hello, I'm writing about our our [[Draft:ISS_Art|ISS Art article]] which was declined again. Following the advice to refer to reliable secondary sources we've added a reference from Forbes.com - an independent and credible resource. However, the submission was declined again. Therefore, I would like to ask: how many resources do you recommend for the article to be approved? What level of resources should this be? Thanks in advance.
 
[[User:Olga Rekovskaya|Olga Rekovskaya]] ([[User talk:Olga Rekovskaya|talk]]) 03:24, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Request on 07:36:32, 31 July 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Anubis2013 ==
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I don't know what the problem is - I thought I've made footnotes - what exactly is wrong with the article?[[User:Anubis2013|Anubis2013]] ([[User talk:Anubis2013|talk]]) 07:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
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== 11:56:10, 31 July 2015 review of submission by JRR1968 ==
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[[User:JRR1968|JRR1968]] ([[User talk:JRR1968|talk]]) 11:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
I submitted an article for submission which I thought I had entitled Barren Plains, Tennessee. It was created after review by Sulfurboy as just Barren_Plains which is too generic. How do I change it to Barren Plains, Tennessee.[[User:JRR1968|JRR1968]] ([[User talk:JRR1968|talk]]) 11:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Hi [[User:JRR1968|JRR1968]] Such a title is only used if there are multiple articles about different places with the same name, thus it is not needed in this case. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 20:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 13:18:10, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Carvic65 ==
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[[User:Carvic65|Carvic65]] ([[User talk:Carvic65|talk]]) 13:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
Hello, I'm Carlos Vicioso, Abelardo Vicioso's son. I've been trying to submit an article about my father's life and contributions to the Dominican Literature, but it's been rejected, in a few occasions. I modified what they required, neutral point of view, less adjectives, etc., and also added more references, important references, but still. Even somebody suggested me to make a shorter article, because he's a Spanish writer, but his works have been translated to several languages, all over the world. So his importance is not questionable. I'm wondering, is this how the world pays to somebody who contributed with his people, to have a better world, instead thousands of evil persons are acknowledged by Wikipedia. Probably that's why the world is like it is... I am a diplomat, assigned to the United Nations in Vienna, still with several occupations, but still take time to try if my father's memory is revived. Isn't my word trustworthy? I could find 34 references concerning to the subject, isn't it enough?
 
I would appreciate if you could help me with this issue, in order to be fair. To make justice.
 
By the way, this is my father's article (again): <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding comment added by [[User:Carvic65|Carvic65]] ([[User talk:Carvic65|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Carvic65|contribs]]) 13:18, 31 July 2015‎ (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --><!-- Template:Xsign -->
 
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: This isn't the place for a draft article. Provide a link to where the draft is, but first of all please read the feedback which you've already been given. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
: I see that you have submitted for review a number of different versions of your draft, including in your sandbox. Perhaps you haven't seen that one version was approved and published at [[Abelardo Vicioso]]. It needs improvemement, and in particular you need to get the references correctly formatted, see [[WP:Referencing for beginners]]. - [[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 13:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== Request on 15:49:25, 31 July 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by JAS1127 ==
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I have been working on this Nephrocheck Test wikipedia entry for months. Revising and revising only to continue to get rejected. After this last rejection, it is apparent to me that the reviewer doesn't understand the subject matter or they wouldn't have requested the revisions that they did. When I told why this test was important, I was told it was too biased. When I downplayed its importance and added references showing why this is a scientific breakthrough I was told that I didn't play it up enough. I am getting mixed messages and feel like giving up on this even though I have spent countless hours trying to turn it into something that will communicate to others the importance of this diagnostic test. Is it possible to post it on Wikipedia with a disclaimer (as I have seen on other entries) that it needs additional information or needs to be edited? I don't know what that additional info would be, nor who would be qualified to provide it because the nephrologists that are using this test are very busy. Anyway, what can I do to get this entry posted live? Ready to give up.
 
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:Hi [[User:JAS1127|JAS1127]] you could get some topic-specific advice at [[WP:WPMED|WikiProject Medicine]], that's where the editors with experience of writing about medical topics can be found (many of them are actually medical professionals). [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 20:09, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
== 18:48:25, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Jmthf ==
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Hello, thank you for your very quick feedback. I am wondering if my page was rejected because the information about my subject does not contain acceptable references or if my subject's "notability" needs more explanation, if his place in investigative journalism isn't clear enough - I would have thought that overseeing several Pulitzer Prize finalists and winners would be notable, as well as writing 4 critically acclaimed books. I may be answering my own question - do I need to provide references for all of this? Thank you.
 
[[User:Jmthf|Jmthf]] ([[User talk:Jmthf|talk]]) 18:48, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:You have it in one. Yes. I have left a comment not he draft which may help you. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 05:27, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 21:03:58, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy ==
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[[User:Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy|Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy]] ([[User talk:Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy|talk]]) 21:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
HOW TO INSERT A gOOGLE MAP INTO THE ARTICLE?[[User:Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy|Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy]] ([[User talk:Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy|talk]]) 21:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:One cannot. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 05:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::@[[User:Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy|Kim Lord at banhoek conservancy]] Google maps cannot be used here due to their copyright restrictions, however you can post a request at the [[WP:GL/MAP|Map workshop]] for a map to me made for the article. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 12:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 21:32:34, 31 July 2015 review of submission by Lifegami ==
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To Whom This May Concern:
 
It was to my understanding that rejected wikipedia submissions were not made public. Today, Adam Marelli (The subject of a recent rejected article submission to Wikipedia) received a solicitation of work on his professional Facebook Page from someone who claimed to have seen his rejected Wiki article submission. The person who solicited Adam's page goes by the name of Tamsin Kendra. This was a very unethical and potentially damaging move on the part of Ms. Kendra.
 
The reason I am writing this to the help desk is to find out, first, who could have access to view Adam Marelli's article submission after it had been rejected? I know Wikipedia has many qualified and trusted editors that are able to view and apply reviews to article submissions (before and after they are rejected). That being said, is Ms. Tamsin Kendra one of these trusted editors?
 
If so, is there anything that Wikipedia can do to keep Ms. Tamsin Kendra from viewing Wikipedia article submissions related to Adam Marelli (specifically if they're rejected) or from soliciting work from Adam Marelli and making references to private matters on his public social media accounts?
 
If she is not a trusted editor for Wikipedia, is there anyway that she would be able to access Adam's Rejected Article submission?
 
I'm not sure if the circumstances surrounding this matter are legal or not, but, to me, it is certainly unethical and, in my opinion, not in accordance with Wikipedia values and standards of integrity.
 
What can Wikipedia (Administrators, bureaucrats, decision-makers, etc.) recommend to help resolve this matter? We enjoy celebrating the Wikipedia community and would like to see trust restored.
 
[[User:Lifegami|Lifegami]] ([[User talk:Lifegami|talk]]) 21:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 
:Your understanding is flawed. Any and all submissions of every sort on Wikipedia are 100% public. Any person may view any page at all.
:If you have a dispute with someone on Facebook, please keep that dispute to Facebook or to a real life interaction with that person.
:You need to be aware that Wikipedia takes even the hint of a legal threat very seriously. Please see [[WP:NOLEGALTHREATS]]
:Because I perceive that you have issued either a legal threat, or a set of words preparatory to issuing a legal threat, it is necessary to take further action. I am about to take that action, and will notify you on your own talk page of the discussion venue. Please do not make further posts here, on this page, until the matter is resolved. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 05:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::There is no legal threat there Tim. Lifegami, everything anyone on Wikipedia does is public. [[User talk:Chillum|<b style="color:DarkRed">Chillum</b>]] 05:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:::There appears to be the intent to utter a legal threat. The words "''I'm not sure if the circumstances surrounding this matter are legal or not''" indicate that the editor is so minded. Since we may not ignore the matter I have raised it at [[WP:ANI]] to allow others better qualified than am I to make the call.
 
::::The implied threat is not against Wikipedia, it is against Tamsin Kendra. If the OP decides to sue that person (who appears to be soliciting payment for getting an article accepted), we should wish him success - though frankly, I doubt she has committed any crime. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:This is about the scam where authors of declined drafts are approached by people claiming to be "senior editors" who demand payment to get the draft approved. {{ping|Lifegami}} it seems the rather long-winded circumlocution and legalese language of your initial post here lead to misunderstanding. Had you said in plainer language, something like: "Someone claiming to be a "trusted editor" approached me with an offer to approve the draft for payment" we would have immediately understood. The legal department of the Wikimedia Foundation (owners of Wikipedia) is aware of the issue.
:To summarize; everything on Wikipedia (with very few specific exceptions) is fully accessible to anyone. Anyone claiming to be a "trusted editor" and asking for payment to get a declined draft approved is a scammer attempting extortion. There are a variety of venues on Wikipedia where anyone can get completely free advice and assistance with any aspect of writing an article here - one of them being this page. Except for the brief period of the annual fundraising campaign "advertisements", you will never be asked for money and certainly never in exchange for any work done. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 11:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
= August 1 =
 
== Request on 10:40:48, 1 August 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Dileep Kumar Tiwari ==
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:Wikipedia is not the place to promote your personal web site. {{declined}} and speedy deletion as an advert has been requested. This is going nowhere. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 13:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 11:34:50, 1 August 2015 review of submission by C.T. Jasper ==
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Dear Sirs,
 
I am writing to you according the article on the artist C.T. Jasper. It has been declined, because earlier another submission with the same title had been sent for review. The first article was written by an intern who has forgotten the log in data, so now unfortunately I am unable to edit the first draft of the article and I had to create new account. I would be very grateful, if you could delete the first account, so the second version of the article could be reviewed.
 
Sincerely,
Olga Guzik-Podlewska (assistant at Le Guern Gallery, Warsaw - representing the artist)
[[User:C.T. Jasper|C.T. Jasper]] ([[User talk:C.T. Jasper|talk]]) 11:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:C.T. Jasper|C.T. Jasper]] There is no reason why you could not continue editing [[Draft:C.T. Jasper|the first draft]] using your new account - a draft is not "tied" to a specific user account. However, your current username is not acceptable. Only C.T. Jasper himself is allowed to use his own name here. I will post information to your Talk page about getting your username changed. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 12:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 11:37:46, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Fitsum Gebremariam ==
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[[User:Fitsum Gebremariam|Fitsum Gebremariam]] ([[User talk:Fitsum Gebremariam|talk]]) 11:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
why is article rejected?
 
:First of all you have submitted it twice. We will review [[Draft:Fitsum Gebremariam]] in the future. Please visit it and see the reason in the comment at the head. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 13:22, 1 August 2015 (UTC)reply
 
== 14:24:14, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Bridget0727 ==
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I submitted my article as I need assistance with citations. My in-text citations are adding as notes and I don't know which is correct nor how to repair. My article is not complete but I need some assistance please!
 
[[User:Bridget0727|Bridget0727]] ([[User talk:Bridget0727|talk]]) 14:24, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
:Hi [[User:Bridget0727|Bridget0727]], your inline citations are correct, please continue doing them like that. Inline citations are actually preferred over a simple list at the end of the article. The minor formatting errors can be fixed in due course. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 07:00, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 17:58:45, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Bling Art ==
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[[User:Bling Art|Bling Art]] ([[User talk:Bling Art|talk]]) 17:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
My article was declined after only 10 seconds after sending it ?????
How could someone review it after only 10 seconds.
Please advise
 
* '''comment''' I've answered both questions on my talk page: It wasn't in 10 seconds, more like a minute; there are 3 source that it was easy to check in that time as being non independent sources; the text is a copy vio from http://www.artofbling.com/about.html [[User:KylieTastic|KylieTastic]] ([[User talk:KylieTastic|talk]]) 18:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 18:35:05, 1 August 2015 review of submission by Dannydarkly ==
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I am not sure what the question is regarding my submitted entry... advise..thank you
 
[[User:Dannydarkly|Dannydarkly]] ([[User talk:Dannydarkly|talk]]) 18:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
:Your article has no references. Please read the decline box at the top of the page for links to pages that can help you. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:47, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
= August 2 =
 
== 14:49:39, 2 August 2015 review of submission by Rogcoll007 ==
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[[User:Rogcoll007|Rogcoll007]] ([[User talk:Rogcoll007|talk]]) 14:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello I am baffled why the submission on Macedonian Aviation United Kingdom was declined
It is a most interesting part of modern aviation history and submitted by a member who knew the airline
from it's formation to it's end. If l have made a mistake it is because at 70 years of age l am not computer savvy
Regards
Roger
:Please link to the article you are discussing. I cannot find it in your user contributions. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 21:20:22, 2 August 2015 review of submission by Breton66 ==
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I am not requesting a re-review. I am requesting more guidance, as I don't see where my entry fails to follow WPMOS. If you could provide some clearer indications of exactly where the article falls down, that would be greatly appreciated.
 
Regards
Jonathan.
[[User:Breton66|Breton66]] ([[User talk:Breton66|talk]]) 21:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
:I assume the rejection was done in terms of your reference style. I would suggest reading [[WP:REFSTART]]. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
= August 3 =
 
== 01:25:31, 3 August 2015 review of submission by JasmineJLM7 ==
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Hello, good morning! I've already edited my draft according to the pointers I were given. I'm unsure of what it is still rejected. May I ask for another person to relook at it?
Thank you!
[[User:JasmineJLM7|JasmineJLM7]] ([[User talk:JasmineJLM7|talk]]) 01:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
[[User:JasmineJLM7|JasmineJLM7]] ([[User talk:JasmineJLM7|talk]]) 01:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 07:50:21, 3 August 2015 review of submission by Pcbali ==
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[[User:Pcbali|Pcbali]] ([[User talk:Pcbali|talk]]) 07:50, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
 
One of my article has been declines on being "describing about my self". While I a social worker and had made much Litigation for Public Cause in Indian Courts, i wanted to make people know, how we can be successful in bringing social change though process of Law. But before I could add the details, my article was declined by some administrator in hurry. I think it should be allowed or should be deleted after 24 hours or more when it is fully edited. On primary stage, deleting an article is not appreciated.
 
Further already their are so many articles. One of such Article is "Hemant Goswami" The person is living and all the information is personal achievements. If this article is approved, I have appeal for Equality and fair justice.
:You should use the sandbox to create articles from now on, once they are placed on a draft page or submitted for AfC, then this opens them up to being speedy deleted and or declined. Please also understand that just because another article exists doesn't mean another one should exist. No article has any bearing or merit on whether another article should exist. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:42, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== Request on 14:43:52, 3 August 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Cmireland ==
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I have submitted the article four different times. Each time I have asked for help and received help in writing the article according to the guidelines. After having the article reviewed by someone in the help chat I submit it and it keeps getting declined because it isn't "Notable" All of the articles I have posted are third party articles from magazines etc that back up the information from the article. I do not know what else to do to get this article posted.
 
<!-- End of message -->[[User:Cmireland|Cmireland]] ([[User talk:Cmireland|talk]]) 14:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
:I've approved it. It was borderline last time I reviewed it. I'm not sure why it was rejected last time, you would specifically have to ask that editor. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== 15:01:05, 3 August 2015 review of submission by Robert McClenon ==
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I reviewed [[Draft:PULSAR: Lost Colony]] and declined it, saying that it did not provide adequate evidence of notability. The author questioned the decline on my talk page, [[User talk:Robert McClenon]]. I suggested that he find reviews. He said that the game is in pre-Beta, but said that it is notable and that other games in pre-Beta are listed. I am requesting that other reviewers either agree with me and explain to the author, or agree with the author and accept the article. Thank you. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 15:01, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
:I'd be a bit careful how you phrase this, it's borderline [[WP:CANVAS]]. If he keeps submitting without fixing anything just submit it to AfD. [[User:Sulfurboy|Sulfurboy]] ([[User talk:Sulfurboy|talk]]) 15:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
::It truly is not canvassing to ask people to agree with one person or another, It is impartial. [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span>]] 15:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 
== Request on 19:55:02, 3 August 2015 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by Flick.steven ==
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I'm not sure exactly how I can modify the page from sounding less like an advertisement. It's meant to be a biography of a semi-famous radio personality that I thought was missing from Wikipedia's library. I'm open to any and all suggestions.
 
Thanks,
Steven
 
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