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== Updates/Corrections ==
Since reading through it, it seems much of this article hasn't been updated with current standards/changes to the systems. I've made the following updates/fixes to the "General" 7th gen section:<br>
* Reorganized to be chronological per all other systems in the list (appears to have been the original authors intent, until someone moved things around for a compyany vs company comparison instead).<br>
* Changed DS to 16 players, PSP to 32 (removed infrastructure note, as no other console is referring to online play) for # of controllers (in this case, meaning local multiplayer).<br>
* Changed the "Wireless" statements for both the PSP and DS to "Yes, though not as a controller.", as these are issues that crop up when including portable systems as "controllers". You have people interpreting "wireless" as a completely different thing (someone obviously thought these meant internet access, instead of wireless controllers, or were working off old rumors that never panned out to use them as wireless controllers).<br>
* Updated 360 for "Expansion" to be "Yes", as the last note left on it was back from when the MS Chatpad had not yet been released. There was no sense in having it yellow with a vague answer, as it's now proven to simply be a full expansion port, and for more than just audio. As well, the "Wireless" was updated to read "Wireless bundled with all systems, wired are available at retail." as all available 360 bundles now come with the Wireless controller standard (Core is no longer sold at retail) as wired controllers are only available if you can specifically find them.<br>
* There's been no changes to the Wii/PS3 controllers, so those have been left as is.<br>
I don't have time right now, but there's a large numbers of missing contrllolers for the Xbox 360. And I mean, a LOT. Specifically:<br>
* Hori Fight Stick (released in Tandem with 'Virtua Fighter 5', works with all the best fight games on the system)<br>
* Hori Flight Stick (released as a package deal with 'Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation')<br>
* "Big Button" Controllers (released with 'Scene It!')<br>
* 360 Racing Wheel (released back at near-system launch for PGR3 and a number of racing games)<br>
* MS Vision Camera (used as input on a variety of games)<br>
* There's also a matter of the Guitar Hero and Rock Band Controllers, though they're available on a variety of system with a variety of extra functions, it may be too messy to even attempt to add in to these charts. That's one to debate.<br>
* Lastly there's the Sony EyeToy controller that could be listed as well. Definitely things to think about.<br>
Oh, and for my 2 cents, I don't think the portable game systems should be under the same tables as everything else, there's too many dual-meaning values that confuse the reader, and I simply don't see a benefit.<br>
[[User:TrackZero|TrackZero]] ([[User talk:TrackZero|talk]]) 14:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
As an owner of the original PS1 Dual analog controller, it does indeed have depressable/clickable thumbsticks like Dual Shock <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.141.92.21|24.141.92.21]] ([[User talk:24.141.92.21|talk]]) 04:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Things to Add ==
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*Oh, and '''''PLEASE''''' help check the factual accuracy of this table. I've never played most of these consoles, so it's certainly possible that I screwed up when adding some of them - I've found a number of mistakes in my own work, so I'm worried there are more to be found. Thanks for the help. :) [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RandyWang|'''rants''']]</sub>) 13:05, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I think we should stick to official controllers. Keep in mind this is only for video game consoles, not PC controllers. [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
:Fair point. I've also decided to stop adding other controllers for now, on the basis that I think we have the most important ones already. What do you think of my other suggestions? [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RandyWang|'''rants''']]</sub>) 11:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
All light guns have at least one button. How else do you pull the ''trigger''? ;) [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
▲All light guns have at least one button. How else do you pull the ''trigger''? ;) [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <font color="FF0000">C</font><font color="EE0000">y</font><font color="DD0000">b</font><font color="CC0000">e</font><font color="BB0000">r</font><font color="AA0000">S</font><font color="990000">k</font><font color="880000">u</font><font color="770000">l</font><font color="660000">l</font>]] [[User_talk:CyberSkull|✎☠]] 11:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
:Good call. ;) I assumed that the trigger was a discrete component - so, the total number of "buttons" in that list would be "total buttons.. minus D-Pad and trigger". I guess the distinction - if any - would be whether the trigger is analog or digital. Either way, we may have to check that the other controllers don't need updating to fit the new definition. [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RandyWang|'''rants''']]</sub>) 12:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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:Thanks for all the help. [[User:Russian Sage 777|Russian Sage 777]] 17:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
::Those photos on villagephotos are too heavily compressed. [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
Added information for TurboGrafx-16 controller. [[User:Belknap|Belknap]] 03:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
== Split? ==
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== Wow ==
I can't believe someone really wrote all this!
:Neither can we. :) [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RandyWang|'''rants''']]</sub>) 01:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
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::And I don't think the PS2, Gamecube and Xbox should be wireless as it currently says? But I will compare my whole data when I have time. —[[User:Deadman1848|Deadman1848]] 17:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd just count shoulders and triggers as the same thing, since they are <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.141.92.21|24.141.92.21]] ([[User talk:24.141.92.21|talk]]) 05:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== buttons ==
I've changed buttons to digital buttons and analog trigger to analog buttons. Please rearrange the counts accordingly. Please note that light guns like the zapper only have digital buttons, not analog. [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
This introduces many inaccuracies as most of the buttons on sixth-generation consoles are analog, even if they don't have a great deal of range of motion. [[User:Ace of Sevens|Ace of Sevens]] 00:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
XBox face buttons are analog. I will indicate this in the table!
-David <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:64.73.238.75|64.73.238.75]] ([[User talk:64.73.238.75|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.73.238.75|contribs]]) 19:59, 29 August 2006 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>
== reorganization ==
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This sounds good - I've been thinking about ways to reorganise, but this strikes me as by far the best scheme so far. I'll help update and check the counts when I have time (so much school assessment :( ). If you haven't done it by Monday night, I will. [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RandyWang|'''rants''']]</sub>) 11:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
:I've started the conversion. [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
Hmm... I have a suggestion for further organisation:
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== a note on [[haptic]] feedback ==
Haptic feedback can be anything from vibration (the most common) to changing texture on the controller (patents have been filed, I saw on IGN; sorry I don't have the link handy). [[User:CyberSkull|Dread Lord <
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I've gone ahead and given the "integrated controllers" in handheld consoles their own section, and changed the DS and PSP entries in the main table to reflect their function as controllers for the Wii and PS3. I'm not sure if the handhelds should be kept in this article, or the information merged to the page Comparison of handheld gaming consoles. Certainly this article has more of a focus on the controls, buttons, and whatnot in particular (it would be ''some'' work to reformat the other page to fit this information, or somehow incorporate it nicely. A new "controls" section would be needed, etc.). Handhelds aren't really "controllers" though, hence the desire to really segregate it or get it out of this article. It's mildly confusing otherwise. -- [[User:Consumed Crustacean|Consumed Crustacean]] | [[User talk:Consumed Crustacean|Talk]] | 00:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:Fully agree with the proposed merge: while they ''do'' have a place in this article, they'd be better represented at [[Comparison of handheld gaming consoles]], and a link in the "See also" section of this page. We need to either totally segregate handheld and console controllers, to totally merge them - but it just makes more sense to keep them separate.
:There's space at the handheld controllers article to include the kind of information we have here, thankfully. Rather than reformat anything, however, it would be easier to totally transfer our table format, then simply strip any redundant information - that is, create an entirely new table there, at the bottom, using the format we already have. [[User:RandyWang|RandyWang]] (<span style="font-size: smaller;"><sup>[[User talk:RandyWang|'''raves''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/RandyWang 2|'''review me!''']]</sub></span>) 00:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::Right. I'm thinking: Scrap the first column in the third table of the Handheld's article (the "controls" column), and add columns at the end for wireless and expansion. Then the whole "General" section in this article can be ignored.
::A display is also considered pretty mandatory for handhelds, so I'm not perfectly sure how to approach that; whether to move the other article's info into the "Output" table, or to cut the display out of the ouput table. The latter solution leaves it with only two columns, the former puts a big green streak through the table. -- [[User:Consumed Crustacean|Consumed Crustacean]] | [[User talk:Consumed Crustacean|Talk]] | 00:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:::Instead of moving the data and fixing it later, I've moved it to [[Comparison_of_handheld_gaming_consoles/temp]]. I'll try to build it up to include all of the handhelds included in the other article, as well as fixing it to fit in better, but it'll take a bit of time, and research. -- [[User:Consumed Crustacean|Consumed Crustacean]] | [[User talk:Consumed Crustacean|Talk]] | 21:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
== SIXAXIS or Sixaxis? ==
It's a small thing, but an IP recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_video_game_controllers&diff=82907189&oldid=81649297 changed] the name of the PS3's controller to "Sixaxis". This was a good thing, in that it standardised the name (it wasn't consistent across the board before), but it begs the question: what should we call it, exactly? The options, as far as I can see:
*Wireless Controller (SIXAXIS)™
**This is the ''official name'', complete with trademark sign.
*SIXAXIS
*Sixaxis
What think we? [[User:Daveydweeb|Daveydw]][[User:Daveydweeb/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">ee</span>]][[User:Daveydweeb|b]] (<span style="font-size: smaller;"><sup>[[User talk:Daveydweeb|'''chat''']]</sup>/<sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/RandyWang 2|'''patch''']]</sub></span>) 00:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
==Haptic Feedback==
I think haptic feedback should be cahnged to a more relative term for game controller, such as rumble feature, rumble, etc[[User:68.255.98.17|68.255.98.17]] 01:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
==Pics==
It would be nice to feature small pictures of the controls i think --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.231.37|77.99.231.37]] ([[User talk:77.99.231.37|talk]]) 16:43, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
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